View Full Version : Ekin-Su is WITHDRAWN from the Celebrity Big Brother final
arista
21-03-2024, 11:06 PM
Thats a real shame
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/03/14/14/82466029-13197199-image-a-14_1710426403719.jpg
[Ekin-Su Cülcüloğlu is WITHDRAWN from
the Celebrity Big Brother final after
'vulnerable' star suffered post-eviction
backlash following a
'tough couple of weeks' on ITV show]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13224507/Ekin-Su-C-lc-lo-lu-WITHDRAWN-Celebrity-Big-Brother-final-vulnerable-star-suffered-post-eviction-backlash-following-tough-couple-weeks-ITV-show.html
That's a great shame. She was a big part of the series, whatever your feelings towards her.
arista
21-03-2024, 11:17 PM
Will
has not got the update at 11PM on the end of
his Live ITV2HD show
He said all the Big Brother Celebrities
will join him and AJ.
Not Ekin Su
arista
21-03-2024, 11:18 PM
Social Media Back Lash
has scared her away
They probably can’t trust how she’s gonna behave or what she’s likely to say or claim
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Mystic Mock
21-03-2024, 11:21 PM
Social Media Back Lash
has scared her away
That's a shame.
Hopefully she'll be back on her feet soon, and ignore the gobshites that try to speak for everyone on Social Media, and give the decent people on Social Media a bad name.
arista
21-03-2024, 11:21 PM
They probably can’t trust how she’s gonna behave or what she’s likely to say or claim
She has pulled out
not them blocking her
arista
22-03-2024, 12:03 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/03/21/17/82743737-13224507-image-m-4_1711042451728.jpg
Her last appearance on ITV2HD
some days back
She has pulled out
not them blocking her
Well they would say that ..
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…this is very worrying, didn’t she withdraw from appearing with Lorraine Kelly as well, did I read…?…and it’s also been reported that she’s withdrawn from social media…?…I hope she’s ok, the internet/social media etc can be awful…
…this is very worrying, didn’t she withdraw from appearing with Lorraine Kelly as well, did I read…?…and it’s also been reported that she’s withdrawn from social media…?…I hope she’s ok, the internet/social media etc can be awful…
It could be her playing another game …
It’s got every body talking about her yet again
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no, i don't think she is playing a game. She would get far more exposure from appearing on the show, the after party etc There is no way the public should be continuing to attack her for her appearance in this BB series. She is out, now leave her be
I see I missed a lot. Can't imagine anyone could be that awful with the smaller spotlight the shows enjoy now. It still gets mentioned in The Mail at least but only because of Kate's uncle I think carefully playing Captain Obvious with his "insider" information.
It could be her playing another game …
It’s got every body talking about her yet again
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…if that was the case and someone was encouraging that ‘talking about’…then what would be the point unless they were engaging in it and enjoying bring a part in it…they wouldn’t be ‘hiding’ from it and effectively ‘cancelling themselves’ from public appearances …that wouldn’t make any sense at all…
I see I missed a lot. Can't imagine anyone could be that awful with the smaller spotlight the shows enjoy now. It still gets mentioned in The Mail at least but only because of Kate's uncle I think carefully playing Captain Obvious with his "insider" information.
…honestly I can imagine it, very much I can imagine it…and I don’t even do social media but it isn’t just social media, it’s an unavoidable thing to see some cruel stuff written…and I won’t exclude sites from that…
…behind a keyboard, it can be very big, very clever and very powerful…but the most big of all is very cruel and very unnecessary…
…if that was the case and someone was encouraging that ‘talking about’…then what would be the point unless they were engaging in it and enjoying bring a part in it…they wouldn’t be ‘hiding’ from it and effectively ‘cancelling themselves’ from public appearances …that wouldn’t make any sense at all…
Any publicity is good publicity - Madonna
She’s succeeded in getting herself talked about in the media ..
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Any publicity is good publicity - Madonna
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…that might work/have worked for Madonna but it doesn't work for everyone in every situation, we all know that…and Madonna and Ekin-Su aren’t comparable so there is no relevance, really…
Mystic Mock
22-03-2024, 05:58 AM
It could be her playing another game …
It’s got every body talking about her yet again
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I get what you mean.
But we also can't rule out the possibility of her feeling her Mental Health worsening either.
I think it's definitely good to have some paranoia (because a lot of Celebs are fake as ****,) but it doesn't mean that all of them are, so we should try to keep an open mind.
…that might work/have worked for Madonna but it doesn't work for everyone in every situation, we all know that…and Madonna and Ekin-Su aren’t comparable so there is no relevance, really…
As I understand it the ‘saying’ is correct .. it applies to anything and anyone apparently.
The theory is that as time passes you remember the person or the name of the company but not the reason ..
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I get what you mean.
But we also can't rule out the possibility of her feeling her Mental Health worsening either.
I think it's definitely good to have some paranoia (because a lot of Celebs are fake as ****,) but it doesn't mean that all of them are, so we should try to keep an open mind.
Yes that’s a fair point.. she is a devious madam though
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…anyway, it all doesn’t look well in ITVBB…they’ve praised their housemate care pledge but so far it’s felt largely about words with far less substance …in only one civilian and one celebrity edition, there has been some very questionable carelessness …and they do again have to take some responsibility with Ekin-Su if this has created her to be emotionally fragile because they decide in the ‘hero and villain’ edits….
Mystic Mock
22-03-2024, 06:11 AM
…anyway, it all doesn’t look well in ITVBB…they’ve praised their housemate care pledge but so far it’s felt largely about words with far less substance …in only one civilian and one celebrity edition, there has been some very questionable carelessness …and they do again have to take some responsibility with Ekin-Su if this has created her to be emotionally fragile because they decide in the ‘hero and villain’ edits….
Well ITV does have Love Island, and did have The X Factor which was also quite cruel to it's contestants.
ITV seem to not be good with psychological care for their contestants.
As I understand it the ‘saying’ is correct .. it applies to anything and anyone apparently.
The theory is that as time passes you remember the person or the name of the company but not the reason ..
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…(…I’m not going to get too deeply into because I’m going out and don’t have the time…)…but it doesn’t equally apply because it doesn’t allow for context and specifics that fit the circumstance…it doesn’t allow for the very common and familiar of notoriety, for instance…’not all well known is well known favourably’ and that can harm careers and harm celebrity…no more so than in our present times of ‘cancel’….
Well ITV does have Love Island, and did have The X Factor which was also quite cruel to it's contestants.
ITV seem to not be good with psychological care for their contestants.
…absolutely, they’re showing no progression in their care, Mock…and that’s very worrying to see atm in such early stages of their production of the show…
A8473
22-03-2024, 06:43 AM
Boo. Hoo.
Mystic Mock
22-03-2024, 07:18 AM
…absolutely, they’re showing no progression in their care, Mock…and that’s very worrying to see atm in such early stages of their production of the show…
Hopefully Ekin Su's friends and family are keeping a close eye on her, to make sure that she's doing okay.
And I agree with you Ammi 100%, I mean they've managed Reality Shows for decades at this point, and they still can't make sure that the contestants are mentally okay post-Show.
…honestly I can imagine it, very much I can imagine it…and I don’t even do social media but it isn’t just social media, it’s an unavoidable thing to see some cruel stuff written…and I won’t exclude sites from that…
The irony about celebrities is that they can be like a moth to flame. Give them the right tools and incentives and they may set themselves on fire for entertainment. Often these are fragile people in connection to their character whom are most pulled in by pursuit of seeking validation. That could be why some act out in the house in the first place is to get to that attention. Still, it can still be a rude awakening, no matter how that person may seem.
So people with the worst habits go for these platforms often for the immediate returns it can offer in character judgements. I have had my share of those cruel encounters in my very early past just being young, and outside of safety concerns, I think we tend to give what is said online far too much weight (especially in smaller scales) as it is a distorted way of dissecting experiences in real time.
It's also too irresistable to people with a particular personality set that if they read one thing, they must read it all... very bad idea, especially as there are also addicted individuals on the other end that happily feed off the same feedback loop. That's why it won't stop as soon as it starts. We haven't done a a good job at identifying those people early enough on to catch it before the habits start forming. So we haven't adjusted yet. Instead, people often sit by and watch it all burn like cheap entertainment. Society still thinks this is perfectly normal.
Maybe it is a very wise move she stopped it before it could spiral, at least on her end. I'll have a different opinion maybe once I catch up on the show.
thesheriff443
22-03-2024, 07:29 AM
Not watched the series but as they say fame comes with a price.
The irony about celebrities is that they can be like a moth to flame. Give them the right tools and incentives and they may set themselves on fire for entertainment. Often these are fragile people in connection to their character whom are most pulled in by pursuit of seeking validation. That could be why some act out in the house in the first place is to get to that attention. Still, it can still be a rude awakening, no matter how that person may seem.
So people with the worst habits go for these platforms often for the immediate returns it can offer in character judgements. I have had my share of those cruel encounters in my very early past just being young, and outside of safety concerns, I think we tend to give what is said online far too much weight (especially in smaller scales) as it is a distorted way of dissecting experiences in real time.
It's also too irresistable to people with a particular personality set that if they read one thing, they must read it all... very bad idea, especially as there are also addicted individuals on the other end that happily feed off the same feedback loop. That's why it won't stop as soon as it starts. We haven't done a a good job at identifying those people early enough on to catch it before the habits start forming. So we haven't adjusted yet. Instead, people often sit by and watch it all burn like cheap entertainment. Society still thinks this is perfectly normal.
Maybe it is a very wise move she stopped it before it could spiral, at least on her end. I'll have a different opinion maybe once I catch up on the show.
… I feel that all only has a ‘one view’ perspective, though… for me, that’s a perspective leaning toward and in favour of ‘victim blame’ as it diverts and dissolves online bullying behaviour and ‘internet hate’ which we all know are very present in our world of today….(…apologies for the brief aspect of this as I’m not great at typing on my phone ….)….
Nicky91
22-03-2024, 08:04 AM
good on Ekin-Su for boycotting this corrupt ITV stench :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Gusto Brunt
22-03-2024, 08:08 AM
Social Media Back Lash
has scared her away
She put herself in there. Now she doesn't like it. Spoiled brat. Grow up.
Vanessa
22-03-2024, 08:30 AM
The only thing that pissed me off is when she lied about why she nominated Louis. He didn't want to go home. She should have just admitted it was a tactical nomination. Nothing wrong with that, it's a game.
Cherie
22-03-2024, 08:37 AM
I read that she was quite upset at how she was treated on Late and Live and the grilling she got, it is a shame that she doesn't want to appear, she was a great housemate, I hope is she is okay
Vanessa
22-03-2024, 08:41 AM
I read that she was quite upset at how she was treated on Late and Live and the grilling she got, it is a shame that she doesn't want to appear, she was a great housemate, I hope is she is okay
Because she wasn't honest. AJ rightly called her out.
Blaming the edit when she didn't see it at that point.
But I hope she's ok.
Kazanne
22-03-2024, 08:49 AM
I don't like Ekin Sue,didnt like her in LI I find her very attention seeking and false,I do hope she is ok, do I feel sorry for her ? not really, she acted as she did so should own it, this for me is attention seeking again as people will be more interested in why she isn't , there to those who are,the show gave her an opportunity to shine, no one is to blame AJ called her out as she was lying,so for me I do hope she takes some time out,hope shes ok,but this to me is attention seeking yet again. IF she is genuinely upset about it all stay out the media.
Her part in the show is over. People should be able to put it to one side and leave her alone if thats what she wants
jones89
22-03-2024, 10:48 AM
I don’t blame her. The z-list kids tv presenters were awful with that interview. The whole series has been a bit mehh. She can get on to bigger and better anyway
rusticgal
22-03-2024, 11:03 AM
Well, I am afraid I am less sympathetic. I am sure she got a lot of backlash on Social Media when she won LI because everyone knows that they only won because everyone loved Davide...she was manipulative on that.
Since then she has appeared on DOI where she sulked like a child when she wasn't achieving good marks. Then she is on CBB...desperate for airtime and desperate for fame. Its all sun and roses when it works in your favour...but as MM knows you start lying and twisting stories and manipulating situations to suit your own agenda, then its going to come back and bite you on the bum...and thats what she did during the CBB experience.
Sadly with this generation Social media is the be all and end all...its sick. Im sure she has made loads of money since LI..more than any of us dream about.
Go and enjoy it and just use Social Media to chat with your friends and family.
Well, I am afraid I am less sympathetic. I am sure she got a lot of backlash on Social Media when she won LI because everyone knows that they only won because everyone loved Davide...she was manipulative on that.
Since then she has appeared on DOI where she sulked like a child when she wasn't achieving good marks. Then she is on CBB...desperate for airtime and desperate for fame. Its all sun and roses when it works in your favour...but as MM knows you start lying and twisting stories and manipulating situations to suit your own agenda, then its going to come back and bite you on the bum...and thats what she did during the CBB experience.
Sadly with this generation Social media is the be all and end all...its sick. Im sure she has made loads of money since LI..more than any of us dream about.
Go and enjoy it and just use Social Media to chat with your friends and family.
She’s delusional and very manipulative .. plus she knows that she has a power over men …
I still see her marrying a very wealthy guy somewhere down the line .. I get the feeling that her ultimate target is ££££££££
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arista
22-03-2024, 12:00 PM
I don’t blame her. The z-list kids tv presenters were awful with that interview. The whole series has been a bit mehh. She can get on to bigger and better anyway
But it would look great having her
seated there
as she is drop dead georgous
arista
22-03-2024, 12:04 PM
She put herself in there. Now she doesn't like it. Spoiled brat. Grow up.
She was not aware her Verbal Fight
went Worldwide in short clips
Even joked about on the one-hour comedy
Greg Gutfeld hit show in USA
Kazanne
22-03-2024, 12:11 PM
But it would look great having her
seated there
as she is drop dead georgous
Bit shallow there arista,lol:wavey:
Bit shallow there arista,lol:wavey:
He's right though. I mean let's face it: Ekin-Su, Zeze, and David's legs were the obligatory eye candy for this series.
arista
22-03-2024, 12:16 PM
Bit shallow there arista,lol:wavey:
I do not think so.
Sadly, she has withdrawn from
tonights Live event
I do not think so.
Sadly, she has withdrawn from
tonights Live event
I bet she’s got something planned for tonight to stay relevant and steal the limelight.
:)
Maybe a shocking claim online or an outrageous Tweet or she feints as she goes into Macdonalds to buy a hamburger for a homeless guy outside
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Gusto Brunt
22-03-2024, 01:05 PM
She was not aware her Verbal Fight
went Worldwide in short clips
Even joked about on the one-hour comedy
Greg Gutfeld hit show in USA
Then she's very naive about social media.
Bronzo
22-03-2024, 08:46 PM
The only thing that pissed me off is when she lied about why she nominated Louis. He didn't want to go home. She should have just admitted it was a tactical nomination. Nothing wrong with that, it's a game.
Louis confirmed in his interviews that he wanted to go numerous times to be fair, it just wasn’t shown on the show.
Vanessa
22-03-2024, 08:48 PM
Louis confirmed in his interviews that he wanted to go numerous times to be fair, it just wasn’t shown on the show.
But that's not why she voted for him. It was tactical.
Garfie
22-03-2024, 09:55 PM
It could be her playing another game …
It’s got every body talking about her yet again
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Could be either, but she knows the pitfalls of reality tv - they all do - and they all make the decision to take part despite that. They know the potential risks, and believe them to be worth it when they sign up.
Garfie
22-03-2024, 10:08 PM
…absolutely, they’re showing no progression in their care, Mock…and that’s very worrying to see atm in such early stages of their production of the show…
I understand what you’re saying, Ammi, but we don’t know if there is any problem with her mental health. Maybe she has pulled out because she has a bee in her bonnet that she didn’t achieve what she wanted to - she did go straight into her interview with some obvious resentment about the ‘edit narrative’, despite having never seen the edit. Staying away from the final might be her way of trying to reinforce that narrative.
I do believe that, in this day and age, any celebrity who participates in reality shows is fully aware of the potential outcomes - good or bad - and they also have to bear some responsibility for what happens. It cannot solely be blamed on the show.
Garfie
22-03-2024, 10:35 PM
The irony about celebrities is that they can be like a moth to flame. Give them the right tools and incentives and they may set themselves on fire for entertainment. Often these are fragile people in connection to their character whom are most pulled in by pursuit of seeking validation. That could be why some act out in the house in the first place is to get to that attention. Still, it can still be a rude awakening, no matter how that person may seem.
So people with the worst habits go for these platforms often for the immediate returns it can offer in character judgements. I have had my share of those cruel encounters in my very early past just being young, and outside of safety concerns, I think we tend to give what is said online far too much weight (especially in smaller scales) as it is a distorted way of dissecting experiences in real time.
It's also too irresistable to people with a particular personality set that if they read one thing, they must read it all... very bad idea, especially as there are also addicted individuals on the other end that happily feed off the same feedback loop. That's why it won't stop as soon as it starts. We haven't done a a good job at identifying those people early enough on to catch it before the habits start forming. So we haven't adjusted yet. Instead, people often sit by and watch it all burn like cheap entertainment. Society still thinks this is perfectly normal.
Maybe it is a very wise move she stopped it before it could spiral, at least on her end. I'll have a different opinion maybe once I catch up on the show.
I understand your points here, Maru, but in my view, we mustn’t forget self-responsibility. I have to pose the question should it really be the responsibility of the rest of society to protect or mollycoddle those who have a large but fragile ego and who constantly seek out attention?
We also have to ask if it is their mental health or, in fact, their ego that is affected.
There are millions of truly vulnerable people in this world, and I wouldn’t hesitate to help, support or protect them.
However, I think as a viewer of BB and other reality shows, I’d feel a bit of a hypocrite if I criticised the shows and the producers, when part of the reason we all watch them is for the drama, and when we know their premise is very much based on popularity and judgement of individuals.
My final point would be that we have to guard against immediately jumping down a mental health diagnosis and condemnation of the show, when we do not know that to be the case. It seems that is the route people can go down far too quickly and easily these days, and part of me feels this devalues those people truly suffering from mental health issues.
Garfie
22-03-2024, 10:53 PM
Well, I am afraid I am less sympathetic. I am sure she got a lot of backlash on Social Media when she won LI because everyone knows that they only won because everyone loved Davide...she was manipulative on that.
Since then she has appeared on DOI where she sulked like a child when she wasn't achieving good marks. Then she is on CBB...desperate for airtime and desperate for fame. Its all sun and roses when it works in your favour...but as MM knows you start lying and twisting stories and manipulating situations to suit your own agenda, then its going to come back and bite you on the bum...and thats what she did during the CBB experience.
Sadly with this generation Social media is the be all and end all...its sick. Im sure she has made loads of money since LI..more than any of us dream about.
Go and enjoy it and just use Social Media to chat with your friends and family.
I agree with most of what you say here, rustic. She has repeatedly put herself out there on reality tv shows which she knows are about judgement and popularity. We are all also aware of the nature of social media, with people like Ekin who is already in the public eye, being more aware than most.
There’s part of me that asks why put yourself out there for judgement if you don’t want to be judged, and if you can’t accept that some people might not like you or perceive you in the way you desire?
… I feel that all only has a ‘one view’ perspective, though… for me, that’s a perspective leaning toward and in favour of ‘victim blame’ as it diverts and dissolves online bullying behaviour and ‘internet hate’ which we all know are very present in our world of today….(…apologies for the brief aspect of this as I’m not great at typing on my phone ….)….
If I write a 200 page essay on how I really feel, I'll be chased off the site again :laugh:
Jokes aside, I thought I made it clear about my view of the state of social media when I said I thought that we treated social media bruises as cheap entertainment. We don't see the desire to inflict pain (self-inflicted or not) on one another as a form of entertainment as a problem worth addressing. While I don't think negative posts should be screened or anything like that, I feel we forget that how people portray themselves online or even on TV are not exactly how they feel inside. And fame encourages people to even say things are worse or better than they really are, which equally distorts things. Without extending this into a massive essay, there's reasons we can't address atm and it's best left to another discussion more suited to that I think as the scope of the conversation was relating to Ekin-su and her behavior, what she appears to have done to cope with it, etc. I chose to address it from POV of personality traits, because often that is how it plays out, that these big characters go into the house with the belief they're hardened... most people couldn't actually handle a mob of detractors without having to take a step back or responding in a panic (doubling down, etc).
I think very highly of anyone who can step away from a situation and review. And it sounded like from what little I saw about it from a brief search, that she is indeed looking at it and trying to take away constructively... but can't do that while in the middle of it. I completely understand that. I think that's more normal than not, ie less toxic.
I understand your points here, Maru, but in my view, we mustn’t forget self-responsibility. I have to pose the question should it really be the responsibility of the rest of society to protect or mollycoddle those who have a large but fragile ego and who constantly seek out attention?
We also have to ask if it is their mental health or, in fact, their ego that is affected.
There are millions of truly vulnerable people in this world, and I wouldn’t hesitate to help, support or protect them.
However, I think as a viewer of BB and other reality shows, I’d feel a bit of a hypocrite if I criticised the shows and the producers, when part of the reason we all watch them is for the drama, and when we know their premise is very much based on popularity and judgement of individuals.
My final point would be that we have to guard against immediately jumping down a mental health diagnosis and condemnation of the show, when we do not know that to be the case. It seems that is the route people can go down far too quickly and easily these days, and part of me feels this devalues those people truly suffering from mental health issues.
I agree completely as this is what I believe also. The only thing I would touch upon is that self-accountability and group/culture-based accountability ideally work hand-in-hand. There has to be something to be accountable to. If culture has broke apart and there's fewer bonds, that means there's less of a sense of shared consequences, ie. "common sense" no longer is common. Then it becomes more difficult to determine where the blame should go. It also makes it feel like we can't really punish any bad actors as there's room to say that it is in fact socially acceptable behavior to spend most hours of the day trolling certain celebs. Just a thought.
Another example, how much was a reality TV's star behavior enabled or encouraged throughout their reality TV career? How often were they rewarded for ignoring the haters, through production encouraging the behavior or even monetarily/career-wise rewarded for being a firebrand. Only just this show gives them a bad reaction then, in their eyes? They're shielded from consequences when they're rewarded and see their name pop up more and get clicks. (I haven't seen it yet in this case to say either way)
I can see where a famous person finds themselves being milked for the machine, because one set of behaviors is encouraged and even applauded in one quarter... terrible in another... so their toxic behavior is sold to them and those closest as their trademark. Then it becomes very difficult to hold actions to account when nobody can agree what action actually constituted ill will or harm, when it was their personality defects that supposedly got them where they are. So much controversy comes from a contradiction, imo.
Outside of that, because culture is not where it should be, we find ourselves in a place that shouting across the screen seems to be the only way to get across how gross someone is behaving. But keep in mind, to some people these are numbers and because "numbers go up", it's always good. The fact she would pull her social media imo is a good sign a celeb might be taking any legitimate criticism to heart, regardless of anything they say later, because of course they're told to sell themselves as inspiring... and society's current model for that is unapologetic twitter user posts majestic instagram life while telling society what they are doing wrong or right.
arista
23-03-2024, 04:03 PM
Real Shame she was not on the Live ITV2HD Final
show.
Typical Presenters
never told us why
smudgie
23-03-2024, 05:16 PM
I don't like Ekin Sue,didnt like her in LI I find her very attention seeking and false,I do hope she is ok, do I feel sorry for her ? not really, she acted as she did so should own it, this for me is attention seeking again as people will be more interested in why she isn't , there to those who are,the show gave her an opportunity to shine, no one is to blame AJ called her out as she was lying,so for me I do hope she takes some time out,hope shes ok,but this to me is attention seeking yet again. IF she is genuinely upset about it all stay out the media.
Totally agree.
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