Princess Kate has Cancer

[arista]

She has now done a Video


Great a New Video


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13228381/Kate-Middleton-reveals-cancer-diagnosis-chemotherapy.html

[arista]

Great she is looking well


I thought something was up
as Ch5HDnews stayed on for 30mins extra
he said before 6PM
We are staying on Air for Breaking news

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[Gusto Brunt]

That's a shocker.

[Ray.]

Terrible, terrible news. Feels like only yesterday that I was watching her and William get married. I hope that history doesn't repeat itself and the Princess of Wales meets an untimely end.

[Kazanne]

She looks well and hope she has a full recovery.

[arista]

That's a shocker.


Yes All over the World Even USA


I am glad she has done a video


Stopping all these Freaks
making up rubbish

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes All over the World Even USA


I am glad she has done a video


Stopping all these Freaks
making up riubbish

Three of them have cancer. Charles, Fergie and now Kate. :(

And the Queen Elizabeth had cancer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Crikey

Wishing her all the very best

[arista]

She looks well and hope she has a full recovery.


So great New video and Photo
Sad it is a Cancer, I hope they can stop it.


All the Front pages later

[Livia]

I feel like she's been forced to announce this. Hope all the trolls and conspiracy theorists are happy now. I hope she has a quick recovery.

[arista]

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[arista]

I feel like she's been forced to announce this. Hope all the trolls and conspiracy theorists are happy now. I hope she has a quick recovery.


Yes,
could be.


All I am pleased is she,
looks well

[Glenn.]

I feel like she's been forced to announce this. Hope all the trolls and conspiracy theorists are happy now. I hope she has a quick recovery.
The royals don’t have the right to a private life though right?

I hope she makes a speedy recovery

[arista]

The royals don’t have the right to a private life though right?

I hope she makes a speedy recovery


So do I.

[jet]

I'm so shocked and saddened. A wondeful video, she was so dignified and poised. Get well soon you beautiful lady. :love:

[Oliver_W]

Jesus, those poor kids - they lost two of their great-grandparents within a couple of years, and now their mum and granddad has cancer...

[arista]

Jesus, those poor kids - they lost two of their great-grandparents within a couple of years, and now their mum and granddad has cancer...

I trust Kate
has told her Children in the right way for their age.


It is good to hear
her treatment is working well

[arista]

I feel like she's been forced to announce this. Hope all the trolls and conspiracy theorists are happy now. I hope she has a quick recovery.

Yes could be due to the Data Breach
of those 3 staff have her info.

The Staff are Suspended


That Video was recorded on Wednesday

[Redway]

She’s probably been forced to announce the truth of her situation thanks to all the conspiracy-theorists and gossips making her sound like she’s had a complete mental breakdown or been abducted. I actively don’t hope those people are happy right now.

Wishing her the best outcome possible.

[Redway]

Jesus, those poor kids - they lost two of their great-grandparents within a couple of years, and now their mum and granddad has cancer...

You never know what’s going on behind closed doors. And sometimes what’s behind closed doors should stay there but gossips can force it out sooner, in the most unfair way.

[Beso]

Yes All over the World Even USA


I am glad she has done a video


Stopping all these Freaks
making up rubbish



Plenty still wont believe it.

[Kazanne]

So great New video and Photo
Sad it is a Cancer, I hope they can stop it.


All the Front pages later

Yes and what a lovely gracious woman she is its so sad, hope all the trolls hang their heads in shame

[Cherie]

It is possible they were worried about a medical breach, shameful, I have always said if I had cancer I wouldn't tell anyone outside my immediate circle, as its the pity I wouldn't be able to handle.

Wishing you all the best Kate and hopefully now this has put an end to the endless rumour mill

[user104658]

It was fairly evident that the truth was that she was in poorer health than was being announced and that all of the dancing around was in an effort to not have to go public with it. It is - as it always has been - an absolute circus that they (as a family) have had it happen this way, especially with young children involved.

[Kazanne]

The royals don’t have the right to a private life though right?

I hope she makes a speedy recovery

Yes they do Glenn, well at least those that Really want it .

[Kazanne]

I totally blame the media and conspiracy idiots, they should have been left alone when they asked for privacy

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[thesheriff443]

It was fairly evident that the truth was that she was in poorer health than was being announced and that all of the dancing around was in an effort to not have to go public with it. It is - as it always has been - an absolute circus that they (as a family) have had it happen this way, especially with young children involved.

Listen you complete clown you been a complete prick throughout Kate’s illness and yet here you are trying the old I knew it was more serious than they was saying

You are an embarrassment

[user104658]

You never know what’s going on behind closed doors. And sometimes what’s behind closed doors should stay there but gossips can force it out sooner, in the most unfair way.

People will create narratives to fill an information void, it's human nature and inevitable, it's the entire reason that religion exist (for example). We didn't know where the sun went. We didn't know what lightning was. It was obvious that they weren't releasing information about Kate. SHOULD they have to? No, of course they shouldn't, but because of what they are and what they represent, they do - or silly gossip and rumours are entirely unavoidable.

The great irony of course is that the root of this is the deification of British royalty, whether it's what Diana was subject to, the Harry furore, or this latest conspiracy frenzy with Kate, it's all the same thing.

[Cherie]

I totally blame the media and conspiracy idiots, they should have been left alone when they asked for privacy

Yep Kaz, I really don't get the appetite to know what is going on, it should have been enough to say she was out until Easter and to respect their privacy but it seems the entitlement of some is such that they feel the need to know everything NOW

[Redway]

Ugh, gossipy narratives. Such poison.

[user104658]

Listen you complete clown you been a complete prick throughout Kate’s illness and yet here you are trying the old I knew it was more serious than they was saying

You are an embarrassment

Everyone knew it was more serious than they were saying back in the thread with the "swaying" video of William appearing looking like he'd been hit by a truck. They should have had their privacy as a family, they did not have it, because the royals never have it. They won't have it now despite her pleas. That's bloody horrible but it's not the fault of those saying the monarchy shouldn't continue to exist - its the fault of those who insist that they're an essential part of Britain and justify it by saying that they're a huge draw for tourism. Guess what -happens if you turn a family into a spectacle? If you repeatedly argue that it's a good thing and good for them and good for the country?

**** like this is what happens.

The piousness of the royal tub-thumpers acting like it isn't THEM who adore their princes and princesses living in glass boxes to be fawned over then playing outrage when the attention has been horrendous at a horrendous time for any family. Buying, building and paying for the upkeep of the massive royal spotlight and then shouting "Disgusting! Don't look at what's in the spotlight!". Nah.

I genuinely feel for Kate, for William and (more so than any, because they've not had a choice yet) their kids. But their problem as always is the Royal Firm, not the daft public.

[Vanessa]

Oh no that's terrible news. She looks well. I hope she recovers.

[AnnieK]

Awful news. I have two friends going through treatment at the moment and it's gruelling. Always shocking when people have young children.

Terrible she has had to announce it, I fear it was the medical breach at the clinic that was the final straw to force their hands.

They really do need to be left in peace now to deal with this as a family

[Ammi]

…**** cancer, it’s relentlessly cruel…I wish Kate a full recovery and I know that she’ll have the very best of care as is possible in her medical team…her struggle through all of her words was so evident but I’m glad that she announced it herself as opposed to being more formerly from the palace as they may be very senior royals but they’re also a young family struggling through their days at the moment and struggling with serious disease…be well, Kate…:love:…

[UserSince2005]

Good to know what’s actually going on and she isnt locked up in a dungeon

[Vanessa]

It's preventative treatment. So fingers crossed everything goes well.
This is the last thing I thought was going on.

[jet]

Everyone knew it was more serious than they were saying back in the thread with the "swaying" video of William appearing looking like he'd been hit by a truck. They should have had their privacy as a family, they did not have it, because the royals never have it. They won't have it now despite her pleas. That's bloody horrible but it's not the fault of those saying the monarchy shouldn't continue to exist - its the fault of those who insist that they're an essential part of Britain and justify it by saying that they're a huge draw for tourism. Guess what -happens if you turn a family into a spectacle? If you repeatedly argue that it's a good thing and good for them and good for the country?

**** like this is what happens.

The piousness of the royal tub-thumpers acting like it isn't THEM who adore their princes and princesses living in glass boxes to be fawned over then playing outrage when the attention has been horrendous at a horrendous time for any family. Buying, building and paying for the upkeep of the massive royal spotlight and then shouting "Disgusting! Don't look at what's in the spotlight!". Nah.

I genuinely feel for Kate, for William and (more so than any, because they've not had a choice yet) their kids. But their problem as always is the Royal Firm, not the daft public.

Blah Blah Blah.
There is NO excuse for the heartless, cruel, shameful conspiracies, NONE. This was a woman going through a serious operation and asking for privacy while she recovered. She just didn't disappear for no reason. The request was clear and simple. Stop making out it is just human nature - it is not. It is VILE behaviour from a certain type of person, happily not typical!

[jet]

On the news they are saying Kate was told the cancer diagnosis post operatively, on 27th Feb, the day William cancelled his appearance at his godfathers memorial.

[arista]

On the news they are saying Kate was told the cancer diagnosis post operatively, on 27th Feb, the day William cancelled his appearance at his godfathers memorial.


Yes good her Treatment started early

[Ray.]

Blah Blah Blah.
There is NO excuse for the heartless, cruel, shameful conspiracies, NONE. This was a woman going through a serious operation and asking for privacy while she recovered. She just didn't disappear for no reason. The request was clear and simple. Stop making out it is just human nature - it is not. It is VILE behaviour from a certain type of person, happily not typical!


I think the greatest irony is that those who like the monarchy are perfectly content to sit back and respect the privacy of the royal family, whereas those who despise them and distrust the idea of monarchy are the ones who are obsessed with knowing every little detail of their lives, public and private, and treat them like performing chimps or indeed citizens of a communist country who are required to give up any and all right to privacy and face endless scrutiny from the collective.

It's all rooted in hatred of the monarchy. They hate the fact that these people were born/married into privilege, and so their thinking is: let's turn this privilege into pain however we can. Let's find any way possible to confuse their public service with their private lives, and subject it to public scrutiny and consternation via the most deluded, ridiuclous conspiracy theories that invariably paint the royal family in the worst possible light.

[jet]

I think the greatest irony is that those who like the monarchy are perfectly content to sit back and respect the privacy of the royal family, whereas those who despise them and distrust the idea of monarchy are the ones who are obsessed with knowing every little detail of their lives, public and private, and treat them like performing chimps or indeed citizens of a communist country who are required to give up any and all right to privacy and face endless scrutiny from the collective.

It's all rooted in hatred of the monarchy. They hate the fact that these people were born/married into privilege, and so their thinking is: let's turn this privilege into pain however we can. Let's find any way possible to confuse their public service with their private lives, and subject it to public scrutiny and consternation via the most deluded, ridiuclous conspiracy theories that invariably paint the royal family in the worst possible light.

Perfectly put. Bravo! :clap1:

[user104658]

Blah Blah Blah.
There is NO excuse for the heartless, cruel, shameful conspiracies, NONE. This was a woman going through a serious operation and asking for privacy while she recovered. She just didn't disappear for no reason. The request was clear and simple. Stop making out it is just human nature - it is not. It is VILE behaviour from a certain type of person, happily not typical!

Human nature is often vile, jet. Have you not noticed?

[rusticgal]

To think what she was going through and all the negative shite she had said about her about some photos…and how miserable William looked…

I do hope she makes a full recovery…

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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I do hope the baying mob that demanded the Princess of Wales ‘come clean’ feel guilty tonight.



I think they do Darren...

[MTVN]

Far as I can see the only thing they really did wrong was a silly photoshop mistake, otherwise there was no need to go public before this. People have always promoted nasty gossip about the family so I'm not surprised they didn't indulge those rumours now.

The conspiracy theorists do have egg on their face let's be honest because basically everything they claimed was bollocks and now they're no doubt disappointed that the real reason isn't such salacious tabloid tittle tattle after all

[bots]

I will be keeping my fingers crossed for her

[joeysteele]

I really hope she gets fully recovered soon.

[Maru]

Awful. Just now seeing this.

[Cherie]

Blah Blah Blah.
There is NO excuse for the heartless, cruel, shameful conspiracies, NONE. This was a woman going through a serious operation and asking for privacy while she recovered. She just didn't disappear for no reason. The request was clear and simple. Stop making out it is just human nature - it is not. It is VILE behaviour from a certain type of person, happily not typical!

100 per cent, could understand if she disappeared with no reason, but a reason was given, and a timeframe was given, but that was not good enough

[Cherie]

Far as I can see the only thing they really did wrong was a silly photoshop mistake, otherwise there was no need to go public before this. People have always promoted nasty gossip about the family so I'm not surprised they didn't indulge those rumours now.

The conspiracy theorists do have egg on their face let's be honest because basically everything they claimed was bollocks and now they're no doubt disappointed that the real reason isn't such salacious tabloid tittle tattle after all

Indeed, they should feel ashamed that they put a family through this hell while they are going through hell

[thesheriff443]

Indeed, they should feel ashamed that they put a family through this hell while they are going through hell

And now even when the truth comes out and they should crawl back under their rocks they’ve the the audacity to try and justify it.

[Cherie]

And now even when the truth comes out and they should crawl back under their rocks they’ve the the audacity to try and justify it.

honestly cannot get my head around how they come out with the crap they do...conflating joyous occasions with very sad ones....just barmy

[arista]

Awful. Just now seeing this.


Yes sad news.


At least she looked well.

[Glenn.]

Hilarious that the people who bleat on and on and on about how Harry and Meghan were royal and the media attention was part of of the job are now all of a sudden sticklers for privacy. It’s definitely a ‘if the face fits’ scenario.

You can’t pick and choose what you want to bleat on about.

[Redway]

To think what she was going through and all the negative shite she had said about her about some photos…and how miserable William looked…

I do hope she makes a full recovery…

Which is why I always say that if gossip’s what you gonna do, make sure you have your facts at least relatively straight, you’re not putting it on blast to every Tom, Dick and Harry and you at least vaguely know who you’re talking about exactly. I don’t like to presume but I am going to have to take it that none of us really know the the royal family. Whoever does wouldn’t be gossiping about her or feeling so publicly entitled to know what’s going on with her.

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[Cherie]

Hilarious that the people who bleat on and on and on about how Harry and Meghan were royal and the media attention was part of of the job are now all of a sudden sticklers for privacy. It’s definitely a ‘if the face fits’ scenario.

You can’t pick and choose what you want to bleat on about.

are you okay? because what has happened to Kate is nowhere near media attention, it was conspiracy and gossip despite there being a time frame for her returning to public life

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[Jordan.]

Hilarious that the people who bleat on and on and on about how Harry and Meghan were royal and the media attention was part of of the job are now all of a sudden sticklers for privacy. It’s definitely a ‘if the face fits’ scenario.

You can’t pick and choose what you want to bleat on about.

Don't forget anyone who speculated about Kate must feel the utmost shame, but nothing about their participation in vilifying Meghan whilst she was suicidal and going through a miscarriage.

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[Glenn.]

Don't forget anyone who speculated about Kate must feel the utmost shame, but nothing about their participation in vilifying Meghan whilst she was suicidal and going through a miscarriage.

There’s been so much I forgot

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[Glenn.]

No one in this thread really cares about Kate having cancer. I certainly don’t. Kate having cancer has no impact on my life. I wish the woman a speedy recovery but I’m not going to pretend to care about her. I have people in actual real life having to deal with cancer and they’re currently at the mercy of NHS treatment, not fancy royal doctors.

[Kazanne]

No one in this thread really cares about Kate having cancer. I certainly don’t. Kate having cancer has no impact on my life. I wish the woman a speedy recovery but I’m not going to pretend to care about her. I have people in actual real life having to deal with cancer and they’re currently at the mercy of NHS treatment, not fancy royal doctors.

If you dont care why are you in the thread commenting ?

[Glenn.]

Because it’s a free country and I can do what I please. Such a interesting post to add though, well done.

[thesheriff443]

No one in this thread really cares about Kate having cancer. I certainly don’t. Kate having cancer has no impact on my life. I wish the woman a speedy recovery but I’m not going to pretend to care about her. I have people in actual real life having to deal with cancer and they’re currently at the mercy of NHS treatment, not fancy royal doctors.

Stop posting like you are talking for everyone!

You are only posting your own narrow minded opinion
You don’t have to be related to someone to care about them

People risks their lives to save complete strangers because they care
Just because you don’t care don’t think you can talk for others

[Mystic Mock]

Hopefully she'll be okay.

And I also hope that people are respectful to Kate and her kids in particular during such a traumatic period.

[thesheriff443]

If you dont care why are you in the thread commenting ?

Unfortunately josy is not active otherwise she would of told him to get out and stay out because it’s trolling

[Glenn.]

Stop posting like you are talking for everyone!

You are only posting your own narrow minded opinion
You don’t have to be related to someone to care about them

People risks their lives to save complete strangers because they care
Just because you don’t care don’t think you can talk for others

But you’re ok to talk for me? That’s my opinion. You’re such an angry little man.

[Glenn.]

Unfortunately josy is not active otherwise she would of told him to get out and stay out because it’s trolling

Wannabe mod sheriff policing the forum making sure to discuss what other members are posting rather than adding anything to the thread. It’s almost bullying at this point. Well wannabe bullying, it’s comedic more than anything else

[thesheriff443]

But you’re ok to talk for me? That’s my opinion. You’re such an angry little man.

You’ve been told !

[Glenn.]

:joker: :joker: :joker:

You’re a funny little man. I don’t even think you meant to be funny. I have secondhand embarrassment for you

[thesheriff443]

:joker: :joker: :joker:

You’re a funny little man. I don’t even think you meant to be funny. I have secondhand embarrassment for you

Back on topic

[jet]

Don't forget anyone who speculated about Kate must feel the utmost shame, but nothing about their participation in vilifying Meghan whilst she was suicidal and going through a miscarriage.

It would have been impossible to vilify Meghan when she was suicidal as nobody knew she had been until the Oprah interview, by which time she was perfectly fine. Also, she didn’t have a miscarriage whilst suicidal, she was pregnant with Archie at that time.

[Glenn.]

Back on topic

Yes you need to remember that

[Jordan.]

It would have been impossible to vilify Meghan when she was suicidal as nobody knew she had been until the Oprah interview, by which time she was perfectly fine. Also, she didn’t have a miscarriage whilst suicidal, she was pregnant with Archie at that time.

"We didn't know about it and she was fine by the time we did so that makes it okay to continue"

Also, I'm aware of the timeline. The "and" indicates two seperate occasions but thanks for your input.

[user104658]

It would have been impossible to vilify Meghan when she was suicidal as nobody knew she had been until the Oprah interview, by which time she was perfectly fine. Also, she didn’t have a miscarriage whilst suicidal, she was pregnant with Archie at that time.

No one knew Kate had cancer until today, in fact it was doggedly insisted that nothing at all was amiss and she was just having planned minor surgery :idc:.

But of course, we must hang our head in shame, because we should have known that something bigger was afoot that had gone unsaid.

Except... That's exactly what was happening... and we were told to stop being paranoid conspiracy theorists.

Granted no one knew it was anything as awful and serious as cancer but when n it comes down to it, what people have been saying is "something doesn't seem right here - something is going on that we're not being told". And that has in fact been confirmed to be accurate.

[rusticgal]

Hilarious that the people who bleat on and on and on about how Harry and Meghan were royal and the media attention was part of of the job are now all of a sudden sticklers for privacy. It’s definitely a ‘if the face fits’ scenario.

You can’t pick and choose what you want to bleat on about.


Lol….the media attention is part of being Royal…but when they ask for some privacy during difficult times it should be respected.
Harry and Meghan walked out of the Royal fold for Privacy…only to go on National television to get world wide attention….:laugh:

[rusticgal]

No one knew Kate had cancer until today, in fact it was doggedly insisted that nothing at all was amiss and she was just having planned minor surgery :idc:.

But of course, we must hang our head in shame, because we should have known that something bigger was afoot that had gone unsaid.

Except... That's exactly what was happening... and we were told to stop being paranoid conspiracy theorists.

Granted no one knew it was anything as awful and serious as cancer but when n it comes down to it, what people have been saying is "something doesn't seem right here - something is going on that we're not being told". And that has in fact been confirmed to be accurate.


Was it really unfair to expect them to buy time until after Easter to adapt to what they were dealing with as a family…??

[Glenn.]

Lol….the media attention is part of being Royal…but when they ask for some privacy during difficult times it should be respected.
Harry and Meghan walked out of the Royal fold for Privacy…only to go on National television to get world wide attention….:laugh:

Except people were saying exactly that about them before they even did any interviews…they should put up with it because that’s part of the job. BEFORE any interviews. Read that slowly

[user104658]

Was it really unfair to expect them to buy time until after Easter to adapt to what they were dealing with as a family…??

Again - no one knew about the serious diagnosis until this evening. "Fair" doesn't come into it - of course it's fair for a family reeling from a cancer diagnosis to ask for decorum and privacy. But no one knew they were a family reeling from a cancer diagnosis. No one knew anything at all. Hence the tongue-in-cheek speculation.

[Zizu]

Again - no one knew about the serious diagnosis until this evening. "Fair" doesn't come into it - of course it's fair for a family reeling from a cancer diagnosis to ask for decorum and privacy. But no one knew they were a family reeling from a cancer diagnosis. No one knew anything at all. Hence the tongue-in-cheek speculation.


I’ve been saying for months and months that I felt that she looked worryingly underweight … and was told repeatedly that I was being ridiculous .


Last night a royal reporter described her as being pale and thin …


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[arista]

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[jet]

No one knew Kate had cancer until today, in fact it was doggedly insisted that nothing at all was amiss and she was just having planned minor surgery :idc:.

But of course, we must hang our head in shame, because we should have known that something bigger was afoot that had gone unsaid.

Except... That's exactly what was happening... and we were told to stop being paranoid conspiracy theorists.



It was NEVER said by the Palace that she was just having 'minor' surgery?
On the contrary, we were told she was having planned serious abdominal surgery in late Jan which would entail her to be out of action until after Easter. Does that sound minor?
The cancer wasn't diagnosed until later in Feb. so the operation itself was never a walk in the park if it required 2 weeks in hospital and a long recovery period. ALL OF WHICH WE WERE TOLD. CLEARLY. We also had several statements afterwards saying that Kate was recovering well and repeating the after Easter timeline. But that was never enough. So yes, conspiracy theorists is exactly what you are. With barely concealed delight in many cases. It was all "something isn't right here" rubs hands, yum yum gossip gossip. Sickening.

[Jordan.]

It was all "something isn't right here" rubs hands, yum yum gossip gossip. Sickening.

This lack of self awareness should be studied

[jet]

Again - no one knew about the serious diagnosis until this evening. "Fair" doesn't come into it - of course it's fair for a family reeling from a cancer diagnosis to ask for decorum and privacy. But no one knew they were a family reeling from a cancer diagnosis. No one knew anything at all. Hence the tongue-in-cheek speculation.

But they DID know. "Kate is having planned SERIOUS abdominal surgery which will require 2 weeks in hospital and won't resume normal duties until after Easter".
What part of that do you not understand? Do only people with diagnosed cancer deserve privacy? Too bad she didn't release her full medical records for the trolls to have a good look, eh? Tongue - in - cheek my ass.

[jet]

This lack of self awareness should be studied

Your lack of self awareness should be studied.

[Jordan.]

Your lack of self awareness should be studied.

Oooh zinger

[Jordan.]

A man with an entire bookcase full of Meghan gossip books pretending to be sickened by gossip :joker:

[arista]

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[jet]

A man with an entire bookcase full of Meghan gossip books pretending to be sickened
by gossip :joker:

I own just one great book about the awful Montecito duo.
By Tom Bower, a highly respected best selling author.
Don't read it, you will have your delusions shattered.

[Jordan.]

I own just one great book about the awful Montecito duo.
By Tom Bower, a highly respected best selling author.
Don't read it, you will have your delusions shattered.

I don't think anyone read it other than sickening gossip queens.

[jet]

I don't think anyone read it other than sickening gossip queens.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Revenge-Meghan-Harry-between-Windsors/dp/1788705033

Bestseller. 4.5 stars.

[Jordan.]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Revenge-Meghan-Harry-between-Windsors/dp/1788705033

Bestseller. 4.5 stars.

60% off for the sickos

[Glenn.]

It was all "something isn't right here" rubs hands, yum yum gossip gossip. Sickening.

I had to read this twice.

The hypocrisy is outstanding, and what’s more you genuinely can’t see it.

[arista]

60% off for the sickos


Its a good book.
Tom Bower is respected

[Maru]

60% off for the sickos

Eh. This is a gossip site that speculates on reality tv shows. A lot of us read this kind of material in our free time. I read Leah Remini's book about her time in Scientology. I am not into the sterile feel good fluff. I like to read about how things work, especially religions or institutions. I have thought about picking up on royal gossip book but it hits the media as soon as its published that I almost don't see the point. It's not like we can get our viewpoints directly.

(I feel like there was more content in your quote. Maybe I quoted the wrong one)

[Mystic Mock]

I’ve been saying for months and months that I felt that she looked worryingly underweight … and was told repeatedly that I was being ridiculous .


Last night a royal reporter described her as being pale and thin …


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Tbf, you were right that something was up.

In this particular case, I wish you were wrong though.

[Maru]

Tbf, you were right that something was up.

In this particular case, I wish you were wrong though.

We knew she was sick in a significant way and that's obvious by the length of recovery, so there's nothing new here in that aspect. I'm horrified it's cancer-related, especially since it was first said it was not. Seriously heartbroken.

Health for me is a touchy subject and so I understood from the very beginning why she would keep her lips sealed. Re: Recovery time, I'm familiar also having had a c-section, how you really can't lift anything for a while and it progresses gradually as time passes in terms of how much you can actually lift. I am a woodworker, which helps me keep in shape, and I did not feel comfortable lifting plywood panels I think for almost a year. I was told for a year the tissue was still vulnerable also and so another pregnancy was not advised.

The overreaction to the secrecy though was from the beginning, not even since the cancer diagnosis. The whole situation is terrible and sad and I'm sad for the entire family.

[arista]

Yes Maru,
at least that video went out all USA
on every TV news.

Like it was at 6PM UK time
yesterday.

One of our news channels
Ch5HDnews "suddenly" which ends just before 6PM
was extended by 30 mins
So I knew something like this was on its way.

[Mystic Mock]

We knew she was sick in a significant way and that's obvious by the length of recovery, so there's nothing new here in that aspect. I'm horrified it's cancer-related, especially since it was first said it was not. Seriously heartbroken.

Health for me is a touchy subject and so I understood from the very beginning why she would keep her lips sealed. Re: Recovery time, I'm familiar also having had a c-section, how you really can't lift anything for a while and it progresses gradually as time passes in terms of how much you can actually lift. I am a woodworker, which helps me keep in shape, and I did not feel comfortable lifting plywood panels I think for almost a year. I was told for a year the tissue was still vulnerable also and so another pregnancy was not advised.

The overreaction to the secrecy though was from the beginning, not even since the cancer diagnosis. The whole situation is terrible and sad and I'm sad for the entire family.

Speaking for myself, I was just concerned that she might've been in an even worse situation than she's currently in (which is bad enough I know,) but I was worried that she was secretly already dead, which I'm glad that she's not.

And if you don't mind me asking, but are you and your child in good health? I understand if you don't want to answer the question.

[arista]

Speaking for myself, I was just concerned that she might've been in an even worse situation than she's currently in (which is bad enough I know,) but I was worried that she was secretly already dead, which I'm glad that she's not.

And if you don't mind me asking, but are you and your child in good health? I understand if you don't want to answer the question.


It did not help that the other thread
spreading Lies.


Now it is Padlocked
which helps us all.

[Mystic Mock]

It did not help that the other thread
spreading Lies.


Now it is Padlocked
which helps us all.

Hopefully the fatal stuff stays as lies.

[Maru]

Speaking for myself, I was just concerned that she might've been in an even worse situation than she's currently in (which is bad enough I know,) but I was worried that she was secretly already dead, which I'm glad that she's not.

And if you don't mind me asking, but are you and your child in good health? I understand if you don't want to answer the question.

We are all doing fine :love: They definitely don't give realistic time as to how long recovery actually is even without complications, so it's good Kate took the extra time for herself and family (pre-cancer diagnosis)

I don't think that they could hide a death anyway because of death certificates. Her kids were still going to school amidst this.

I wonder also if they would delay saying much more anyway because of Charles chemotherapy. The focus should really be on him anyway and his recovery as he's current monarch and working?

[Mystic Mock]

We are all doing fine :love: They definitely don't give realistic time as to how long recovery actually is even without complications, so it's good Kate took the extra time for herself and family (pre-cancer diagnosis)

I don't think that they could hide a death anyway because of death certificates. Her kids were still going to school amidst this.

I wonder also if they would delay saying much more anyway because of Charles chemotherapy. The focus should really be on him anyway and his recovery as he's current monarch and working?

That's good to hear that you're all doing well.:blush:

Logically speaking you're correct, I sometimes do have a habit of overthinking things, and come up with crazy paranoid theories in my head.

Tbh for Charles, due to his age it's going to be a real tough road ahead for him, I really hope that he can pull through.

[Ammi]

…the around Easter time of Kate returning to royal duties was obviously never going to happen…but it was given specifically because the Easter school break/end of spring term was when the family intended to talk to George, Charlotte and Louis…?…that’s when they were going to originally be told of their mother’s diagnosis, when they had time out of school and lots of time for questions to be asked and answered etc … and then another public announcement would have followed shortly afterwards, I would think…

…anyway, an announcement/statement from Harry and Meghan…

“We wish health and healing for Kate and the family, and hope they are able to do so privately and in peace,” ….

[bots]

it's bad enough when 1 family member is going through that, 2, is unthinkable

[Ammi]

it's bad enough when 1 family member is going through that, 2, is unthinkable

…well 3 family members if Sarah Ferguson is added as well …plus, obviously a shocking death in the family recently…suicides aren’t a very often royal family circle occurrence, are they…it definitely has Elizabeth’s words of ‘Annus horribilis’ very much applying atm…

[Ammi]

…but yeah, two very senior royals with the King and the future Queen…

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJTzgldW8AA2zxt?format=png&name=900x900

at least he apologised i guess...

[Gusto Brunt]

Years ago, I used to think cancer was a very bad luck thing. Haappened to some people but not a lot.

But now, we hear, 1 in 2 people are expected to get it.

That's an insane statistic.

[Ammi]

Years ago, I used to think cancer was a very bad luck thing. Haappened to some people but not a lot.

But now, we hear, 1 in 2 people are expected to get it.

That's an insane statistic.

…on a positive balance to that, there are many positive prognosis and outcomes /full recoveries etc that we didn’t associate so much back in the day…it’s a gruelling time and horrendous to go through but there is also much optimism with many prognosis…

[Cherie]

it's bad enough when 1 family member is going through that, 2, is unthinkable

3 because also Fergie

oh sorry just seen Ammi's post

[MTVN]

100 per cent, could understand if she disappeared with no reason, but a reason was given, and a timeframe was given, but that was not good enough

Exactly, it's literally only two months since she had a pretty major operation in hospital. It's hardly a major 'information void' that needed filling. Are we so desperate for royal news that someone not making public appearances weeks after surgery means we must speculate that she's being abused, suffering from an eating disorder, is suicidal, has been cheated on, wants a divorce and all the other rubbish we've heard recently.

It is quite something to see people who were giddy at all the gossip and conspiracy theories now either claim they don't care about the royals or make out they are somehow vindicated because this proves 'something' was wrong and there was a cover up after all. Except the something was not quite as exciting as they'd hoped.

There is a legitimate debate to be had over to what extent the royals can expect privacy. The fact they made this announcement, and the Kings announcement, shows that they don't think they can maintain total privacy for too long. But that debate is a world away from the speculation that has existed.

[jet]

"King Charles III is showing his support to Kate Middleton after she revealed the news of her cancer amid his own cancer battle.
A Buckingham Palace spokesperson said that the reigning monarch is “so proud of Catherine for her courage in speaking as she did.”

Following their time in the hospital together, Charles has “remained in the closest contact with his beloved daughter-in-law throughout the past weeks.”
The spokesperson furthered that he and Queen Camila “will continue to offer their love and support to the whole family through this difficult time.”

[Zizu]

Years ago, I used to think cancer was a very bad luck thing. Haappened to some people but not a lot.

But now, we hear, 1 in 2 people are expected to get it.

That's an insane statistic.


Yeah I find those incessant tv and radio adverts stating that 1 in 2 people WILL get cancer very depressing


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[jet]

Earlier this month, Markle did a speech for International Women’s Day about the toxicity of social media, especially where women are concerned. Did she refer to and blast the vile conspiracy theories about Kate, and at least ask her own rabid supporters to put a stop to their cruelty then, or at any other time? No. She used herself as an example by relating how she had suffered. She said nothing while those she is friendly with, like Kim Kardashian, Omid Scobie and others made their own little digs about ‘where is Kate’ on social media.
Meghan and Harry can stick their brief condolences to Kate right up their holes.

[Glenn.]

The irony is she’s talking about people like YOU.

[Glenn.]

And let’s be honest the amount of **** that’s been said about Kate in the last three months pales in comparison to the literal years that Meghan has had to deal with by the likes of people like you.

She can’t speak for anyone else, drawing from her own experiences I would say is the normal thing to do because like I say, she’s had it a bit worse than Kate has where social media is concerned. You won’t agree of course because it’s so engrained in your mentality to hate the woman.

Far as I’m concerned, the hysteria is around Kate is nothing. And it turns out the root of all the hysteria was because there was something amiss which people picked up on.

[rusticgal]

The hysteria around Kate has been pure speculation and conspiracy theories about her absence despite being told we would hear more after Easter....
She hasnt been lying or vilifying her family....we all now know what she has been dealing with since her operation.
There is no comparison between the drama queen and Kate whatsoever!!

[Glenn.]

The hysteria around Kate has been pure speculation and conspiracy theories about her absence despite being told we would hear more after Easter....
She hasnt been lying or vilifying her family....we all now know what she has been dealing with since her operation.
There is no comparison between the drama queen and Kate whatsoever!!

Most of the hysteria around Meghan is pure speculation and people projecting their own conspiracies as fact.

[jet]

The irony is she’s talking about people like YOU.

Once again, I don't do social media and I don't do conspiracy rubbish. I deal with peoples own words and actions.
The contrast between Kate, a gracious, dignified, private woman and Meghan, the attention seeking "I want to break the internet" fame ***** is the difference between day and night.
Meghan (and Harry) hand us topics to talk about them on a golden platter.
It's worrying that you can't see the difference.
This is the last time I will be responding to your BS, because you just spout the same senseless rubbish over and over again.

[Glenn.]

Once again, I don't do social media and I don't do conspiracy rubbish. I deal with peoples own words and actions.
The contrast between Kate, a gracious, dignified, private woman and Meghan, the attention seeking "I want to break the internet" fame ***** is the difference between day and night.
Meghan (and Harry) hand us topics to talk about them on a golden platter.
It's worrying that you can't see the difference.
This is the last time I will be responding to your BS, because you just spout the same senseless rubbish over and over again.

I spout the same rubbish lmao if this has confirmed anything at all it’s that the haters really really will justify their behaviour by any means necessary and will turn a blind eye the hypocrisy of it all. I’m glad you won’t be responding to me because I can’t deal with the lack of awareness or lack of intelligence that YOU spout.

[bots]

Can you folk just stop repeating the same old crap back and forth over and over and over again?

[AnnieK]

A thread about Kate having cancer should not descend into the usual arguments about Harry and Meghan.

Let's keep this about Kate please

[arista]

Yes Good to see the UK Public interviewed
on all 3 News channels

Talking about how nice Kate was
on that new video

[rusticgal]

Most of the hysteria around Meghan is pure speculation and people projecting their own conspiracies as fact.


Of course...


Anyway this is a Kate thread...lets stop tainting it with the M word.

[rusticgal]

A thread about Kate having cancer should not descend into the usual arguments about Harry and Meghan.

Let's keep this about Kate please



I agree...Page 3 Post 57...the usual culrprit.

[arista]

I agree...Page 3 Post 57...the usual culrprit.


I agree.

[UserSince2005]

My thread shouldn’t have been closed. TikTok has confirmed her announcement was AI generated.

[Glenn.]

I agree...Page 3 Post 57...the usual culrprit.

And the usual culprits responded… including yourself.

Take some responsibility

[Cherie]

A thread about Kate having cancer should not descend into the usual arguments about Harry and Meghan.

Let's keep this about Kate please

.

[arista]

My thread shouldn’t have been closed. TikTok has confirmed her announcement was AI generated.

Take it up with Admin.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A raft of celebrities have been upbraided for mocking the Princess of Wales’s photoshopped family picture and fuelling conspiracy theories about her health and the reasons for her hiatus from Royal engagements.

TV presenters Davina McCall and Piers Morgan were among the celebrities who have called for the Princess of Wales to be left alone amid her cancer diagnosis.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/03/23/catherine-princess-of-wales-cancer-diagnosis-latest/

[UserSince2005]

There is substantial evidence that her lips were much more pixilated and her mole moves places.

[bots]

There is substantial evidence that her lips were much more pixilated and her mole moves places.

just quit it

[Cherie]

just quit it

:clap1:

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d4ed1b06-ea91-4949-b324-7d8f7e5530c9.png

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-86030d89-ff43-4519-96de-a442e7d7e5c1.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-e2e96fdb-dd03-4200-b274-3a264a88cc31.jpeg

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-ab00b38d-b266-41d3-8b23-fbe1531541a4.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-23a20b8e-38d0-4dd8-b963-7ec41e5af25d.png


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d0006e12-febc-4e20-888d-d4fdd5615f8a.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-5d2ab2c4-c12a-4265-8733-bf82ec256054.png

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-ba084216-b0e7-4283-9446-d1daf122cbe9.png

[UserSince2005]

I think she is much worse than the video let’s on. I’m sorry worried for her. I think the video is AI guys.

[Maru]

6POwf6SmS9U

I've noticed Kinsey Schofield pop up on other non-royal related things, which is surprising. She seems a decent young presenter. Anyway...

I agree with her here and it's nice to see the media show a bit of self-reflection (though it's a bit ****ing late imo).

I'm not real surprised by the craziness of people. I think social media is verging more and more towards unhinged and it's only going to get much worse as normal people check out of the social media rat race and allow the insane asylum to fully run the culture of these spaces. I think we're already seeing that on X...

[arista]

Yes Kinsey Schofield
also goes on GBnewsHD


Talk TV on UK TV is soon to Close
some will move to YouTube only
They would not even bother to invest in a subtitle machine,
So I will not miss them.

[arista]

I think she is much worse than the video let’s on. I’m sorry worried for her. I think the video is AI guys.


How sad
you think that.

[Cherie]

6POwf6SmS9U

I've noticed Kinsey Schofield pop up on other non-royal related things, which is surprising. She seems a decent young presenter. Anyway...

I agree with her here and it's nice to see the media show a bit of self-reflection (though it's a bit ****ing late imo).

I'm not real surprised by the craziness of people. I think social media is verging more and more towards unhinged and it's only going to get much worse as normal people check out of the social media rat race and allow the insane asylum to fully run the culture of these spaces. I think we're already seeing that on X...

totally agree with you Maru, its a cesspit at best but as recently shown a dangerous one

[Crimson Dynamo]

Typical nasty leftist position of hate

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJZKRM4W8AAtzAQ?format=jpg&name=small

[Cherie]

Typical nasty leftist position of hate

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJZKRM4W8AAtzAQ?format=jpg&name=small

No need to mention Kate at all, just such unnecessary malice its dumbfounding

[Mystic Mock]

A raft of celebrities have been upbraided for mocking the Princess of Wales’s photoshopped family picture and fuelling conspiracy theories about her health and the reasons for her hiatus from Royal engagements.

TV presenters Davina McCall and Piers Morgan were among the celebrities who have called for the Princess of Wales to be left alone amid her cancer diagnosis.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/03/23/catherine-princess-of-wales-cancer-diagnosis-latest/

Tbf to these Celebrities, how were they supposed to know that it was Cancer? Should they have maybe waited to see what was wrong with Kate first? In an ideal world yes, but I don't think that any of them are sitting there mocking the fact that there's a very real possibility that her young children could be losing their Mother.

I hope that they're not anyway.

[Mystic Mock]

I think she is much worse than the video let’s on. I’m sorry worried for her. I think the video is AI guys.

There's still a chance that she can pull through.:fc:

[Mystic Mock]

No need to mention Kate at all, just such unnecessary malice its dumbfounding

I think that it's nasty as well personally.

The Kate jokes should at least be left until some time has passed, and hopefully after she's recovered.

[Vanessa]

I think she is much worse than the video let’s on. I’m sorry worried for her. I think the video is AI guys.

She's in the early stages of treatment. She definitely looks tired and like she's lost weight. Poor Kate, I really hope she gets better.

[Zizu]

So who is Blake Lively and why did she have to apologise about a tweet she posted about Kate a few days ago ?

Any ideas ?


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[Crimson Dynamo]

So who is Blake Lively and why did she have to apologise about a tweet she posted about Kate a few days ago ?

Any ideas ?


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Film person, she posted a "funny" where is Kate meme or some such thing

More to the point why did Nicola Sturgeon's sister post that Kate had cancer a while before the official announcement?

[Cherie]

Film person, she posted a "funny" where is Kate meme or some such thing

More to the point why did Nicola Sturgeon's sister post that Kate had cancer a while before the official announcement?

It seems like maybe the PM and First Ministers were advised of the upcoming announcement, and Humza blabbed to Nicola? What a stupid thing to do

[Vanessa]

I don't understand why some people have been making light of this.
She went for a serious operation, so I don't see what's funny about that.
It must have been such a shock to find out she had cancer.
I hope people are supportive, but respect her privacy.

[Livia]

I think she is much worse than the video let’s on. I’m sorry worried for her. I think the video is AI guys.

Knock it off, why don't you?

[Maru]

Knock it off, why don't you?

They've been trolling since the very first post in their thread. It's a very good troll. I think their point is made though... :laugh:

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Government sources told The Daily Telegraph
that they believe China, Russia and Iran
fuelled disinformation about the Princess of Wales.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-76c8f59b-efd2-4a7f-b503-82e7c3d3fc6c.png

[UserSince2005]

They've been trolling since the very first post in their thread. It's a very good troll. I think their point is made though... :laugh:

Me? A troll? Never! 😝

[UserSince2005]

My poor Katie. I don’t trust what they have done to her.

[thesheriff443]

My poor Katie. I don’t trust what they have done to her.

Admin and mods are you going to allow this to continue ?

It’s crossing a line that should not b crossed

[arista]

This was a Scotland-issue paper
yesterday.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/8476/live/81714d70-e9b6-11ee-8bf3-195418ba9285.jpg.webp

[UserSince2005]

Admin and mods are you going to allow this to continue ?

It’s crossing a line that should not b crossed

Look at the evidence. At the very least they have used a green screen. But I’m concerned it’s much worse.

[bots]

Look at the evidence. At the very least they have used a green screen. But I’m concerned it’s much worse.

just shut the f up with your conspiracy theories. The woman is ill, give it a bloody rest

[Oliver_W]

This was a Scotland-issue paper
yesterday.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/8476/live/81714d70-e9b6-11ee-8bf3-195418ba9285.jpg.webp

That's sweet. Cancer has a way of uniting people, because it's something we can all connect with in some way.

[Cherie]

The Telegraph, citing government sources, has revealed accusations from the UK that Russia, China, and Iran are allegedly spreading false information about Princess of Wales Kate Middleton in an attempt to destabilize the country.

Accusations Amid Health Concerns
Officials believe these nations are orchestrating the spread of conspiracy theories and malicious rumors about Princess Kate's health, following her own announcement of a medical diagnosis. British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has publicly criticized social media trolls for their recent attacks on the princess.

Despite this, she faced further criticism online for not sharing her diagnosis sooner.

Concerns have escalated within the British government over the potential involvement of adversarial state actors in amplifying the aggressive online campaign against the princess.
"Part of the enemy states' modus operandi is to destabilize the situation - whether it's undermining the legitimacy of our elections or other institutions," a governmental source disclosed.

This development surfaces as the UK is on the brink of imposing new sanctions against China, prompted by a series of state-sponsored cyber attacks targeting prominent MPs.

Royal Family in the Spotlight
Amid these challenges, Buckingham Palace sources have described the situation as a "temporary blip" rather than a "seismic shift" for the royal family. They conveyed that King Charles remains "very positive" and is gearing up to resume his public duties in the summer, health permitting.

There is also a call from the Palace for major social platforms to bolster their defenses against the rampant spread of falsehoods and conspiracy theories.

The disinformation campaign comes in the wake of Princess Kate Middleton's announcement that she is undergoing treatment for cancer, revealed last Friday. Earlier in February, news broke that the 75-year-old King Charles III has also been diagnosed with the disease.

The Telegraph

[Oliver_W]

Those Russian Bots are at it again :fist:

[Kazanne]

Knock it off, why don't you?

Attention seeking Livia,best to ignore:wavey:

[Vanessa]

Look at the evidence. At the very least they have used a green screen. But I’m concerned it’s much worse.

Obviously it's very serious, but I believe she's going to be fine.
And she has the best medical care available.

[Vanessa]

That's sweet. Cancer has a way of uniting people, because it's something we can all connect with in some way.

Aw this is lovely.

[user104658]

The Telegraph, citing government sources, has revealed accusations from the UK that Russia, China, and Iran are allegedly spreading false information about Princess of Wales Kate Middleton in an attempt to destabilize the country.

Accusations Amid Health Concerns
Officials believe these nations are orchestrating the spread of conspiracy theories and malicious rumors about Princess Kate's health, following her own announcement of a medical diagnosis. British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has publicly criticized social media trolls for their recent attacks on the princess.

Despite this, she faced further criticism online for not sharing her diagnosis sooner.

Concerns have escalated within the British government over the potential involvement of adversarial state actors in amplifying the aggressive online campaign against the princess.
"Part of the enemy states' modus operandi is to destabilize the situation - whether it's undermining the legitimacy of our elections or other institutions," a governmental source disclosed.

This development surfaces as the UK is on the brink of imposing new sanctions against China, prompted by a series of state-sponsored cyber attacks targeting prominent MPs.

Royal Family in the Spotlight
Amid these challenges, Buckingham Palace sources have described the situation as a "temporary blip" rather than a "seismic shift" for the royal family. They conveyed that King Charles remains "very positive" and is gearing up to resume his public duties in the summer, health permitting.

There is also a call from the Palace for major social platforms to bolster their defenses against the rampant spread of falsehoods and conspiracy theories.

The disinformation campaign comes in the wake of Princess Kate Middleton's announcement that she is undergoing treatment for cancer, revealed last Friday. Earlier in February, news broke that the 75-year-old King Charles III has also been diagnosed with the disease.

The Telegraph

FFS and people think I've been believing wild conspiracy theories :joker:.

[user104658]

That's sweet. Cancer has a way of uniting people, because it's something we can all connect with in some way.

Didn't some Hollywood celeb say almost exactly this recently and get utterly panned for it? :think:

[Livia]

Attention seeking Livia,best to ignore:wavey:

I had him on ignore under his previous persona. Probably a good idea to do the same with this one.

[user104658]

They've been trolling since the very first post in their thread. It's a very good troll. I think their point is made though... :laugh:

Lacking in subtlety.

[bots]

FFS and people think I've been believing wild conspiracy theories :joker:.

Russia had a TV news item a couple of weeks ago that Charles was dead

[user104658]

Russia had a TV news item a couple of weeks ago that Charles was dead

The UK and USA media has run countless stories (literally, countless) speculating that world figures such as Putin and Kim Jong have died.

Are these organised attempts to destabilise those countries? Or would that be a daft conspiracy theory.

I'd also point out that an item on Russian televised media would have absolutely no effect at all on the stability of the UK ... ... ... Unless the UK media chose to report that Russian media item to the UK public. :umm2:.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/03/20/14/82687695-0-image-a-50_1710945805708.jpg

[Princess Anne and Sophie speak to Major General Eldon Millar and Yoon Yeocheol, South Korean Ambassador to the UK]


Thats Good,
Fill in the jobs

[bots]

The UK and USA media has run countless stories (literally, countless) speculating that world figures such as Putin and Kim Jong have died.

Are these organised attempts to destabilise those countries? Or would that be a daft conspiracy theory.

I'd also point out that an item on Russian televised media would have absolutely no effect at all on the stability of the UK ... ... ... Unless the UK media chose to report that Russian media item to the UK public. :umm2:.

whatabout at it's finest

[user104658]

whatabout at it's finest

No it isn't :joker: ****ing hell I'm getting bored of hearing debate terms on this forum from people who have blatantly absolutely no understanding of them whatsoever.

Whataboutery is comparing to something completely unrelated and irrelevant to distract from the original point being made. A direct comparison of two similar entities (countries) doing exactly the same thing is not whataboutery. It's not even close to being whataboutery. Ffff.

[Cherie]

The UK and USA media has run countless stories (literally, countless) speculating that world figures such as Putin and Kim Jong have died.

Are these organised attempts to destabilise those countries? Or would that be a daft conspiracy theory.

I'd also point out that an item on Russian televised media would have absolutely no effect at all on the stability of the UK ... ... ... Unless the UK media chose to report that Russian media item to the UK public. :umm2:.



It wasn't speculation, it was reported as fact...quite different

[user104658]

It wasn't speculation, it was reported as fact...quite different

Only in the sense that it lacks finesse. It would actually be more destabilising to speculate and create an unknown (which generates further speculation) than to outright state an easily-debunked false claim as fact.

The Kate hullabaloo is a prime example of that.

"Is he dead??" causes more chaos than "He is dead". 100%.

[jet]

On a happier, nore positive note, it’s heartwarming to see all the messages of support and love for Kate pouring in from all over the world, praising her bravery, dignity and poise and her thoughtful words for others going through cancer. Lovely too that people are leaving flowers and messages outside Windsor for her. :love:
A reminder that there are many more good, kind people that we share our world with than the type who salivate with delighted anticipation at the thought of a Royal scandal.
This whole episode will stengthen the Monarchy, not weaken it.

[user104658]

On a happier, nore positive note, it’s heartwarming to see all the messages of support and love for Kate pouring in from all over the world, praising her bravery, dignity and poise and her thoughtful words for others going through cancer. Lovely too that people are leaving flowers and messages outside Windsor for her. :love:

A reminder that there are many more good, kind people that we share our world with than the type who salivate with delighted anticipation at the thought of a Royal scandal.

This whole episode will stengthen the Monarchy, not weaken it.

Of course we still have to contend with disingenuous little weasles who will use the previously-unknown diagnosis for a bit of bitter tribalistic tub-thumping and point-scoring thinly veiled as genuine concern and altruism.

Better to own one's pettiness than to shuffle around it underfoot wouldn't you say jet?

[jet]

Of course we still have to contend with disingenuous little weasles who will use the previously-unknown diagnosis for a bit of bitter tribalistic tub-thumping and point-scoring thinly veiled as genuine concern and altruism.

Better to own one's pettiness than to shuffle around it underfoot wouldn't you say jet?

I adore Kate. My concern and anger for what she was put through and must have been feeling is genuine, and I couldn’t care less about the sensitive ickle feelings of the scummy conspiracy theorists. I'm delighted at the lovely responses she is now getting. What is your problem?

[user104658]

I adore Kate. My concern and anger for what she was put through and must have been feeling is genuine, and I couldn’t care less about the sensitive ickle feelings of the scummy conspiracy theorists. I'm delighted at the lovely responses she is now getting. What is your problem?

I believe that you believe that jet. That's about the best I can say.

[Oliver_W]

Didn't some Hollywood celeb say almost exactly this recently and get utterly panned for it? :think:

Well now you mention it, I've never said I'm not a Hollywood star :dance:



But yeah I don't know who or what you're talking about, but looking back it does look like I was being overly positive about cancer...

[bots]

I like a good royal scandal us much as the next guy, but i draw the line at making crap up when the figure in question is suffering from a very serious illness. Maybe i'm old fashioned, but thats the way i am

[UserSince2005]

Anyway all I’m saying is that this organisation are proven liars now and there is substantial evidence they have lied again and yet you all just ignore. Where is the critical thinking?

[jet]

I believe that you believe that jet. That's about the best I can say.

Hmmm…
Jet thinks he believes this, but I know better, I’m THE great all - knowing one.
Jog on, Conspiracy Boy, and don’t let your massive ego trip you up on the way.

[user104658]

Well now you mention it, I've never said I'm not a Hollywood star :dance:



But yeah I don't know who or what you're talking about, but looking back it does look like I was being overly positive about cancer...

Wait I've remembered who it was and it's even better than I remembered...

...it was none other than HRH Prince Harry about Charles' cancer, and people on here (of course) utterly panned him for it :laugh: :laugh:.

Also, not me referring to Harry as "some Hollywood celeb" hahaha.

[Cherie]

Harry has contacted Kate personally so kudos to him for that, cannot have been an easy thing to do

[user104658]

Harry has contacted Kate personally so kudos to him for that, cannot have been an easy thing to do

True. He'd have to find her first.

[Oliver_W]

Wait I've remembered who it was and it's even better than I remembered...

...it was none other than HRH Prince Harry about Charles' cancer, and people on here (of course) utterly panned him for it :laugh: :laugh:.

Also, not me referring to Harry as "some Hollywood celeb" hahaha.

Ha!

Well that pair only ever enters my consciousness when someone from their Fan Club posts here, and that nugget seems to have even passed them by :joker:

[jet]

Harry has contacted Kate personally so kudos to him for that, cannot have been an easy thing to do

According to the news and press, “it is not clear if the contact was a phone, video call or some messages of support”.
If Kate spoke to him directly, I’d give all the kudo’s to her for giving him the time of day, after he implied she was a racist and directed sly and uncalled for digs at her in ‘Spare’.

[arista]

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So many public now having more tests.

[thesheriff443]

According to the news and press, “it is not clear if the contact was a phone, video call or some messages of support”.
If Kate spoke to him directly, I’d give all the kudo’s to her for giving him the time of day, after he implied she was a racist and directed sly and uncalled for digs at her in ‘Spare’.

No one wants or needs someone like him around them

[user104658]

According to the news and press, “it is not clear if the contact was a phone, video call or some messages of support”.
If Kate spoke to him directly, I’d give all the kudo’s to her for giving him the time of day, after he implied she was a racist and directed sly and uncalled for digs at her in ‘Spare’.

No one wants or needs someone like him around them

She's known him for a long time and if it came down to a choice between Harry and Meghan and you two lads on a sinking ship, Kate would punt you both off the lifeboat without a second thought. That's the real sad irony in all of it. He's her family, they've been good friends in the past, she knows him a lot better than you do (obviously) and vice versa... The sheer entitlement you must feel to comment on what relationship they should or shouldn't have, honestly.

[bots]

Family relationships are complicated. If them talking again is good for them then good luck to them

[Mystic Mock]

Family relationships are complicated. If them talking again is good for them then good luck to them

This.

[thesheriff443]

She's known him for a long time and if it came down to a choice between Harry and Meghan and you two lads on a sinking ship, Kate would punt you both off the lifeboat without a second thought. That's the real sad irony in all of it. He's her family, they've been good friends in the past, she knows him a lot better than you do (obviously) and vice versa... The sheer entitlement you must feel to comment on what relationship they should or shouldn't have, honestly.

Listen to yourself trying yet again to think you know what someone you don’t know would do
She had known him a long time he knew his brother since he was born but that didn’t stop him ripping into two of the closest people he knew not strangers like me and jet but family William being closer to him than Kate, royal blood that’s should be thicker than water

Despite that and Kate trying to be a go between at their grandads funeral he went on to stick the knife in deeper after that

You actually know nothing because if you think Kate will put Harry’s feelings before the father of her kids you are actually thick in the head

They don’t need an untrustworthy two face liar anywhere near them or their family

And like William and Kate comes as a couple
Harry and Meghan come as a couple and she is a snake like her husband that’s why they actually suit each other, both willing to attack their loved ones for a sence of self gain. And growth

So yeah keep talking about irony, soldier boy

[thesheriff443]

I will also add and everyone on here with real life experience will agree with
Betray and hurt a strong woman and she will build a wall that no matter what you do or say in the future you will never past and she will never allow you to get close to her ever again
Yes she will talk to yo but you are nothing to her.

[Maru]

I won't speculate too much, but if I didn't want drama, I would certainly not go looking for it. H&M are drama, if anything.

However with all the medical, and dealing with all that with the "other thing" going off in the background at all times, it would seem to be too much. Perhaps Kate is strong enough in character that she could decide fighting cancer is enough but "I'm doing fine actually, so I can probably deal with this too", etc. So it might be an incentive to take the time to get some things out of the way, off their shoulders and deal with the leftover poison properly. After what she just went through, and is still going through, it might really be a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme... and let's be honest, the media would eat it up. Some of those people would get really mad. Which would be really funny. Because in the end, they're not really our family... they're just getting on like most people do, and most people have problems that they find hard to deal with in their own family structures.

[Ammi]

…I can see that it’s been said by a few sources that ‘it’s thought…’ or ‘it’s believed…’ type wording but I don’t know that there is anything other than media speculation again that there has been any direct contact…/…Kate has asked for privacy in all aspects so that to me would indicate nothing confirmed unless she or a representative etc directly inform with anything updated…it feels as though the media and many of their ‘royal sources’ will find a way to continue to earn their income from any aspect of health concerns…I really don’t know what direct family contact there has been but it feels doubtful that William and Kate’s priority or thought has been to inform royal media’s or that their team has felt that’s of relevant public information just after the request for family privacy….

[user104658]

Listen to yourself trying yet again to think you know what someone you don’t know would do
She had known him a long time he knew his brother since he was born but that didn’t stop him ripping into two of the closest people he knew not strangers like me and jet but family William being closer to him than Kate, royal blood that’s should be thicker than water

Despite that and Kate trying to be a go between at their grandads funeral he went on to stick the knife in deeper after that

You actually know nothing because if you think Kate will put Harry’s feelings before the father of her kids you are actually thick in the head

They don’t need an untrustworthy two face liar anywhere near them or their family

And like William and Kate comes as a couple
Harry and Meghan come as a couple and she is a snake like her husband that’s why they actually suit each other, both willing to attack their loved ones for a sence of self gain. And growth

So yeah keep talking about irony, soldier boy

The levels of delusion when you actually write out an argument for why you think Kate Middleton would legitimately pick two random middle aged blokes off the internet over her own brother in law. Holy crap Sheriff. I'd laugh but it's not even funny... how do you end up believing that the landed gentry meaningfully give one toss if you live or die? I mean by all means be fans of the Royal Family or whatever but don't flat out lie to yourself, surely. Any one of them would watch an entire town be swallowed into the belly of hell before they'd sacrifice each other. No one with wealth and privilege cares about you, why on earth would you think they do.

[Cherie]

…I can see that it’s been said by a few sources that ‘it’s thought…’ or ‘it’s believed…’ type wording but I don’t know that there is anything other than media speculation again that there has been any direct contact…/…Kate has asked for privacy in all aspects so that to me would indicate nothing confirmed unless she or a representative etc directly inform with anything updated…it feels as though the media and many of their ‘royal sources’ will find a way to continue to earn their income from any aspect of health concerns…I really don’t know what direct family contact there has been but it feels doubtful that William and Kate’s priority or thought has been to inform royal media’s or that their team has felt that’s of relevant public information just after the request for family privacy….

It will have come from Harry and Meghans PR according to sources messages have been sent, like you say the last thing Kate and Wills will be concerned with will be confirming anything

[Ammi]

It will have come from Harry and Meghans PR according to sources messages have been sent, like you say the last thing Kate and Wills will be concerned with will be confirming anything

…I am beginning to find it all a bit…I don’t know how to put it tbh because I find it strange and odd and ‘uncomfortable’ and distasteful if I’m honest…not with Kate and William themselves but just the whole thing of Kate’s health obviously and any family aspect relating to it being more personal because it’s all still unfolding and developing as people have been informed…/…all family members, specifically, from near and far as it were…it’s been requested for privacy to be be respected and especially in respect for their children …and yet their PR/their own personal part of the ‘firm’ is relating a personal apparent family contact to the media…it’s just not feeling that it’s come from the palace in any context at all for me…what Harry or Harry and Meghan have or haven’t said in any private and personal context is something that is doubtful that would be media shared at this moment are my personal thoughts….

[Ammi]

…I mean in all seriousness, I would look at reviewing my PR staff if that’s what they’re genuinely relating to the national and world media’s…barely moments after Kate has asked for privacy …as opposed to their team reinforcing those requested privacies…


…edited to say that I just can’t see that this has indeed come from any royal/palace team but more that it’s media speculation of the same old that they’re prone to…

[Cherie]

The levels of delusion when you actually write out an argument for why you think Kate Middleton would legitimately pick two random middle aged blokes off the internet over her own brother in law. Holy crap Sheriff. I'd laugh but it's not even funny... how do you end up believing that the landed gentry meaningfully give one toss if you live or die? I mean by all means be fans of the Royal Family or whatever but don't flat out lie to yourself, surely. Any one of them would watch an entire town be swallowed into the belly of hell before they'd sacrifice each other. No one with wealth and privilege cares about you, why on earth would you think they do.

I have no idea why you continue to bang this particular drum, you haven't invented the wheel! I have yet to see you comment negatively on Harry and Meghan or any of their lies, yes you say you have no side to take in this argument? you spent hours defending Amber Heard but that is okay, is she your friend? not sure Jet or Sherriff have given any indication that they are sure they are about to be adopted by Charles and Camilla any day now, Jet in particular is as you say a Royal Fan ....he knows the history, he is interested in them what is the problem here???? can you explain why you try to put everyone and anything down...you comment on the Royals as much as anyone, and given you say you have no interest that is even more questionable? why are you giving yourself special privilege to comment on everything but that is only for you....everyone else is dumb, or a tub thumper or whatever put down you can find that you hope will inflict maximum hurt ....you seem to take particular pleasure in putting people down, you really need to grow up, this is a thread about a mother with cancer who is in the public eye and who has had horrible things said about her can we not continue that on the thread

[Cherie]

…I mean in all seriousness, I would look at reviewing my PR staff if that’s what they’re genuinely relating to the national and world media’s…barely moments after Kate has asked for privacy …as opposed to their team reinforcing those requested privacies…


…edited to say that I just can’t see that this has indeed come from any royal/palace team but more that it’s media speculation of the same old that they’re prone to…

Very true Ammi

[bots]

The last thing any family cares about during times like this is who speaks to whom. I find the media behaviour utterly bizarre. They have lost all grounding on what is and is not news worthy.

To the people that continue to snipe at Kate and Will, it says more about them than it does about anything else

[Mystic Mock]

The last thing any family cares about during times like this is who speaks to whom. I find the media behaviour utterly bizarre. They have lost all grounding on what is and is not news worthy.

To the people that continue to snipe at Kate and Will, it says more about them than it does about anything else

The Media has no soul.

Most of the people working as a Journalist are evil.

[Ammi]

The last thing any family cares about during times like this is who speaks to whom. I find the media behaviour utterly bizarre. They have lost all grounding on what is and is not news worthy.

To the people that continue to snipe at Kate and Will, it says more about them than it does about anything else

…oh, I’m not really sure that’s the way of it, tbh…I think they very much have a grounding because Kate …(…and the younger royals in general are so much of public interest and we’re in their parent’s generation also…)…that even those poor royal reporters have to put food on their tables…so when asked for privacy for both Kate and Charles, actually…and much less to report with a thinning down of royal duties taken over by others etc…I think it’s all about the dollar for them and as is sadly, often the way…if any personal contact with Harry is a confirmed thing then why is it reported as different speculation through different and various media’s…anyways, I’m just falling into their ‘well keep ‘em all talking …’ ways so that’s all, really…the whole thing just doesn’t gel right as being anything other than speculation atm…

[thesheriff443]

The levels of delusion when you actually write out an argument for why you think Kate Middleton would legitimately pick two random middle aged blokes off the internet over her own brother in law. Holy crap Sheriff. I'd laugh but it's not even funny... how do you end up believing that the landed gentry meaningfully give one toss if you live or die? I mean by all means be fans of the Royal Family or whatever but don't flat out lie to yourself, surely. Any one of them would watch an entire town be swallowed into the belly of hell before they'd sacrifice each other. No one with wealth and privilege cares about you, why on earth would you think they do.

You actually think the point of my post was to say me and jet have more chance of being saved from drowning than harry, talk about selective reading.

But lets just say if it was based purely on who has caused Kate to feel betrayed hurt and stress then clearly harry would be floating in the North Sea

I will also add to Cherie’s great post
You have become bitter and spiteful with your reply’s and posts
It’s water off a ducks back to someone like me

But when you start to do it to jet who far more refined and educated than me you really go to a new level of low

[user104658]

I have no idea why you continue to bang this particular drum, you haven't invented the wheel! I have yet to see you comment negatively on Harry and Meghan or any of their lies, yes you say you have no side to take in this argument?

Because when you're in an environment (TiBB) where the rhetoric is severely unbalanced in favour of one side (full of Royalists) then true impartiality/neutrality involves heavily favouring one side in an (often futile) attempt to offer some sort of balance. If you have a bowl of acid and you come along and add your own PH balancedcup to the mix, you still have a bowl of acid. If you add a cup of alkaline you at least reduce the acidity. You probably still have acid. Maybe that makes sense, maybe it doesn't, but that's the explanation I have to offer and I feel that's quite charitable.

you spent hours defending Amber Heard but that is okay, is she your friend?

The exact same applies. Forum (and really, entire internet) was full of Depp humpers.

not sure Jet or Sherriff have given any indication that they are sure they are about to be adopted by Charles and Camilla any day now

This specific discussion was about the delulu notion that Harry means nothing to Kate and that she would have more time for some random strangers defending her on the internet.

Jet in particular is as you say a Royal Fan ....he knows the history, he is interested in them what is the problem here???? can you explain why you try to put everyone and anything down...

Not in any way that would make any sense to you so I won't waste my time or yours.

you comment on the Royals as much as anyone, and given you say you have no interest that is even more questionable? why are you giving yourself special privilege to comment on everything but that is only for you...

It's a debate forum, of course all of us comment on the thread topics? When have I ever said that people can't or shouldn't comment? But again it's a debate forum - the entire point - ENTIRE point - is disagreeing and trying to find fault in other people's rubbish arguments and flawed thoughts. I'm right here for others to do the same. And they do (try). Being a bit biased there Cherie, it's not really my fault I'm better at it than some others?

If TiBB wants a discussion forum not a debate forum they can change the section title to "serious discussions and news" and I will respectfully leave

everyone else is dumb, or a tub thumper or whatever put down you can find that you hope will inflict maximum hurt...you seem to take particular pleasure in putting people down, you really need to grow up

I'm allowed to think that people's opinions are dumb tub-thumping. Like I said, other people retort or at the very least give it their best effort (including yourself) so I'd put down the stones in that glass house. More people agreeing with you doesn't make you more correct. Especially on this forum. Though it may make you more Right ;).

this is a thread about a mother with cancer who is in the public eye and who has had horrible things said about her can we not continue that on the thread

Only because of the silly tradition of TiBB thread titles being changed after hundreds of post to fit new information. 90% of this thread was not at all about "a mother with cancer" until we found out that information, very recently. Until then no one knew she had cancer. Hindsight doesn't change 90% of the previous thread content, no matter how many times the title is changed :idc:.

Make a new thread about Kate being a mother who has cancer and I'll interact with it accordingly.

[edit] OK so it is actually a new thread because the other one is closed. I'd still make the argument that the debate tends to carry over when threads are closed :D.

[user104658]

But when you start to do it to jet who far more refined and educated than me you really go to a new level of low

You shouldn't do yourself dirty Sheriff, you're more intelligent than jet.

I don't even say that to be offensive really. It's just a fairly obvious fact.

[Mystic Mock]

You shouldn't do yourself dirty Sheriff, you're more intelligent than jet.

I don't even say that to be offensive really. It's just a fairly obvious fact.

At least we can all agree that I'm the Patrick Star of the Forum, in terms of intellect that is.:laugh:

[thesheriff443]

You shouldn't do yourself dirty Sheriff, you're more intelligent than jet.

I don't even say that to be offensive really. It's just a fairly obvious fact.

Absolutely no one will agree with you.

See the problem is you have no real interest in the royals but jet not on has an interest but a passion for them

If he was on master mind his main subject would be modern day royals

And that’s what you don’t get or respect.

[user104658]

Absolutely no one will agree with you.

See the problem is you have no real interest in the royals but jet not on has an interest but a passion for them

If he was on master mind his main subject would be modern day royals

And that’s what you don’t get or respect.

Knowledge of a specialist subject isn't the same as intelligence, and expertise shouldn't be biased.

[thesheriff443]

At least we can all agree that I'm the Patrick Star of the Forum, in terms of intellect that is.:laugh:

Clever people can do as much damage as someone with an adverse IQ

For example those that invented created weapons to kill like bombs and chemical waepons

[bots]

Knowledge of a specialist subject isn't the same as intelligence, and expertise shouldn't be biased.

neither should intelligence nor entertainment value be defined by personally insulting other forum members. Take a look back at what you have been posting SB, are you proud of yourself?

[Liam-]

The press using Kate’s illness to continue their awful attacks on Harry and Meghan? I am shocked

[user104658]

neither should intelligence nor entertainment value be defined by personally insulting other forum members. Take a look back at what you have been posting SB, are you proud of yourself?

:shrug: it doesn't really come into it, I'm not proud to be on TiBB at all any more, it's lurched into being something that leaves a foul taste no matter how you try to interact with it. TiBB SD's is a bar fight, not a chess match.

[Mystic Mock]

Clever people can do as much damage as someone with an adverse IQ

For example those that invented created weapons to kill like bombs and chemical waepons

I do agree with you on that tbh.

I mean still to this day, there are parts of Hiroshima where you can tell that a Nuclear Bomb went off, there's physical evidence still there I mean.

[thesheriff443]

Knowledge of a specialist subject isn't the same as intelligence, and expertise shouldn't be biased.

One jet is not biased, you can’t argue with facts , facts that have been to be true

Intelligence is based on the ideas of understanding and learning using learned knowledge to your advantage

[Cherie]

There is debate and then there is using the platform solely to insult forum members every way you can, you dont seem to be able to see how low you go at times SB, hopefully you really are a key board warrior and not like that in real life though, I will leave it there

[Cherie]

The press using Kate’s illness to continue their awful attacks on Harry and Meghan? I am shocked

Again this seems to be something you have made up? do you have evidence of that because the only thing I have read is their personal statement, and then a suggestion that Harry had got in touch personally? which can only show him in a good light surely

[Mystic Mock]

:shrug: it doesn't really come into it, I'm not proud to be on TiBB at all any more, it's lurched into being something that leaves a foul taste no matter how you try to interact with it. TiBB SD's is a bar fight, not a chess match.

That's honestly sad to read.

I feel like TIBB should be a place where everyone can have fun, I mean this Forum has probably had more iconic moments over the years than BB itself.:laugh:

I personally think that everyone needs to just maybe take a breather, and go to other topics on the Forum for a bit, because it does seem like Political or Royal Family discussions descend into falling outs as it currently stands.

[user104658]

One jet is not biased, you can’t argue with facts , facts that have been to be true


Bias doesn't need to be about lying. If you focus exclusively on the positives of one side and refuse to acknowledge valid criticisms, and focus exclusively on the negatives of the other and refuse to acknowledge any merit, of course you get bias.

In this case you get a straight-up silly scenario where some people are painted as irredeemable villains and the other as perfect paragons who can do absolutely no wrong - when in reality, they are all just people, as messy as anyone else and with complex and complicated relationships. A royal historian in 200 years time will be fascinated by the family dynamics of princes William and Harry and their complicated relationship with Charles, in a totally neutral and realistic way. DO you think there are going to be history books that say "William and Kate were nice and wonderful people and parents who never set a foot out of line, his brother unfortunately was a ginger demon who wanted to cause nothing but ruin!!"? Those are cartoon characters, not real descriptions of events with any sort of validity.

I'd bloody love it if there was a genuine, open, unbiased and good-faith thread about the Royals on this forum but there literally never has been. Not one.

[thesheriff443]

I do agree with you on that tbh.

I mean still to this day, there are parts of Hiroshima where you can tell that a Nuclear Bomb went off, there's physical evidence still there I mean.

Some thing I learned recently can’t remember the exact numbers but during World War Two over a hundred thousand civilians were killed in the uk
But over 6 million killed in germany.

[Ammi]

…this is feeling a bit…well, more than a bit like a pack mentality against Soldier Boy because he’s very much of a different mindset to many posters on the topic of ‘Royal’ in all its different and varied forms…I know that he doesn’t need me to say that, he’s big and ugly enough to look after himself etc…but I can’t ever not comment on a ‘bully mentality’ if I see it…

[Mystic Mock]

Some thing I learned recently can’t remember the exact numbers but during World War Two over a hundred thousand civilians were killed in the uk
But over 6 million killed in germany.

That's surprisingly a true statistic.

I found out about it last year, I had the shock of my life, because obviously our education system kind of ignores the "good guys" killing 6 million innocent people.

Tbf, I get that it wasn't really black and white during WWII, besides Hitler being evil that is.

[thesheriff443]

Bias doesn't need to be about lying. If you focus exclusively on the positives of one side and refuse to acknowledge valid criticisms, and focus exclusively on the negatives of the other and refuse to acknowledge any merit, of course you get bias.

In this case you get a straight-up silly scenario where some people are painted as irredeemable villains and the other as perfect paragons who can do absolutely no wrong - when in reality, they are all just people, as messy as anyone else and with complex and complicated relationships. A royal historian in 200 years time will be fascinated by the family dynamics of princes William and Harry and their complicated relationship with Charles, in a totally neutral and realistic way. DO you think there are going to be history books that say "William and Kate were nice and wonderful people and parents who never set a foot out of line, his brother unfortunately was a ginger demon who wanted to cause nothing but ruin!!"? Those are cartoon characters, not real descriptions of events with any sort of validity.

I'd bloody love it if there was a genuine, open, unbiased and good-faith thread about the Royals on this forum but there literally never has been. Not one.

You can only go on what you see , the problem with harry and Meghan they have sent themselves up as people that others should look up to
They are down as people wanted to save the planet while taking private jets every where for made up awards

Saying they are all about family while attacking their own

Then you come to the royals doing what no one on this forum would do in exchange for their so called privileges

When there is wrong doing i will say because im out spoken but until you have the evidence of wrong doing you have nothing to base your argument on

[Niamh.]

Closed, too full of personal attacks and insults. You can start a new thread about Kate's diagnosis if you like but any comment that isn't about that topic will be deleted and any comments about other forum members will be deleted and infracted