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Ammi
04-04-2024, 09:34 AM
Describing a pregnant woman as “very emotional and tearful” in the workplace amounted to discrimination, a tribunal has ruled.

The ruling relates to an email sent by the boss of an account manager after she raised concerns about her workload.

Nicola Hinds, 37, resigned after returning to work after the birth of her child because of the way she was treated. She is in line to receive compensation from her employer, Mitie, an outsourcing company, after a judge upheld her claims of pregnancy discrimination and constructive dismissal.

Roger Tynan, an employment judge, said Hinds’s boss, Nav Kalley, had stereotyped her as “an emotional, hormonal pregnant woman and that in the particular circumstances his description of her as emotional and tearful was dismissive and belittling”.

“The inference was that she was not fully in control of her emotions because of the pregnancy and that she was making unreasonable demands as a result,” he said.

In April 2020, Hinds discovered she was pregnant and told her bosses. In October, however, she said she was struggling with her workload after suffering two panic attacks in a week.

The tribunal found bosses handled the complaint “ineptly”. Her male manager did not respond to her at all, instead emailing another colleague that Hinds had “become very emotional and tearful especially” and suggested she should go on unpaid leave.

An interview in June 2021 to discuss Hinds’ needs after returning from maternity leave was described as “inadequate”. She resigned in September 2021.

Hinds’ complaints of constructive dismissal and discrimination in relation to Kalley’s description of her and the handling of her complaint were upheld.

Judge Tynan said: “In our judgment [Mitie]’s cumulative treatment of [Ms Hinds] over the period following her return from maternity leave until September 2021 was of itself sufficiently serious as to be destructive of trust and confidence thereby entitling her to resign from her employment.

“We are satisfied that the failure to undertake a risk assessment, together with Mr Kalley’s inaction in October 2020 were material factors in her decision to resign.”

She will be awarded compensation at a later date.

Speaking afterwards, Hinds, from Doncaster, South Yorkshire, said: “My decision to go it alone was not just to rectify the unimaginable pain and suffering they had put me through, but also to give hope to all the other new and expectant mothers out there, to show them that you can do it without the hefty legal fees and with the right support.

“After 12 years of hard work and dedication, I left my career a broken woman, stripped of all my confidence.”

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/yorkshire-woman-wins-discrimination-case-103547158.html

Beso
04-04-2024, 09:38 AM
By God she's milked that for all it's worth.

Cherie
04-04-2024, 10:16 AM
I heard her interview yesterday she was treated appallingly by her male boss

Crimson Dynamo
04-04-2024, 10:20 AM
I heard her interview yesterday she was treated appallingly by her male boss

well I doubt she would have praised him if she is after money

I wonder what her bosses would have said in an interview?

bots
04-04-2024, 10:24 AM
Companies that are in any way competent, would have a ton of proof showing how well they had treated a staff member. The fact they couldn't dig up anything at all to show themselves in a good light speaks volumes

arista
04-04-2024, 10:27 AM
I heard her interview yesterday she was treated appallingly by her male boss


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/04/02/10/83142699-13262841-Nicola_Hinds_37_was_inexcusably_ignored_by_her_bos s_portrayed_as-m-74_1712051291642.jpg
[Nicola Hinds, 37, was 'inexcusably'
ignored by her boss, portrayed as
'hormonal' and was so badly treated
after she returned to work following
the birth of her child she resigned.]

Crimson Dynamo
04-04-2024, 10:32 AM
Id imagine she was both emotional and tearful a lot?

arista
04-04-2024, 10:33 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/04/02/10/83142697-13262841-image-m-76_1712051301270.jpg
[She is now in line to receive
compensation after a tribunal judge upheld
her claims of pregnancy discrimination.
Pictured: Nicola Hinds with family]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13262841/Mother-37-wins-employment-tribunal-manager-told-emotional-tearful-portrayed-hormonal-pregnant.html

Mystic Mock
04-04-2024, 10:33 AM
Companies that are in any way competent, would have a ton of proof showing how well they had treated a staff member. The fact they couldn't dig up anything at all to show themselves in a good light speaks volumes

I do agree with you on this tbh.

thesheriff443
04-04-2024, 11:51 AM
Some women get tearful and emotional watching a soppy film
Did being pregnant in a job with pressure help , I’d say no.

Cherie
04-04-2024, 12:52 PM
Some women get tearful and emotional watching a soppy film
Did being pregnant in a job with pressure help , I’d say no.

So do some men

Cherie
04-04-2024, 12:54 PM
The point was she was of course hormonal but she did not the the support from her workplace that she should have received due to her pregnancy, its not rocket science :nono::nono:

Crimson Dynamo
04-04-2024, 12:54 PM
The point was she was of course hormonal but she did not the the support from her workplace that she should have received due to her pregnancy, its not rocket science :nono::nono:

Its an office not a social work department :nono:

thesheriff443
04-04-2024, 02:25 PM
So do some men

They are not real men,
There are no real men anymore just soft pricks walking round with stupid beards and babies strapped to there chest

Good for nothing more than playing video games

Oliver_W
04-04-2024, 02:28 PM
They are not real men,
There are no real men anymore just soft pricks walking round with stupid beards and babies strapped to there chest

Good for nothing more than playing video games

Who would you class as a (living) Real Man?

Beso
04-04-2024, 02:30 PM
Who would you class as a (living) Real Man?

:wavey:

thesheriff443
04-04-2024, 02:31 PM
Who would you class as a (living) Real Man?

My self for one
I do the fcuking I don’t want a woman to push a cucumber up my bum for starters

A man with the hands on approach and not needing another man to out my problems

GoldHeart
04-04-2024, 02:39 PM
Who would you class as a (living) Real Man?

Probably one that grunts and rubs mud all over himself, while crushing beer cans on his head , and calling everyone " bro " .

Crimson Dynamo
04-04-2024, 02:42 PM
Probably one that grunts and rubs mud all over himself, while crushing beer cans on his head , and calling everyone " bro " .

Or a Newcastle defender as they are otherwise known

thesheriff443
04-04-2024, 02:50 PM
Probably one that grunts and rubs mud all over himself, while crushing beer cans on his head , and calling everyone " bro " .

Totally wrong as usual
I’ve got more time for strong independent women than sad p1ss heads

And those that call someone bro and dude are pathetic examples of society

Ammi
04-04-2024, 02:58 PM
Companies that are in any way competent, would have a ton of proof showing how well they had treated a staff member. The fact they couldn't dig up anything at all to show themselves in a good light speaks volumes

…yeah, totally this…obviously we know that it’s thankfully a legal requirement of companies to support mothers and pregnant women to ensure that the work management is maintained and that all necessary and appropriate risk assessments are carried out so that the working environment is adaptive to any pregnancy needs …

…I think these parts really say everything, that no working environment was adapted for any employee needs…hence the failure to provide any risk assessments and adaptions etc…there were none…

An interview in June 2021 to discuss Hinds’ needs after returning from maternity leave was described as “inadequate”. She resigned in September 2021.

Hinds’ complaints of constructive dismissal and discrimination in relation to Kalley’s description of her and the handling of her complaint were upheld.

Judge Tynan said: “In our judgment [Mitie]’s cumulative treatment of [Ms Hinds] over the period following her return from maternity leave until September 2021 was of itself sufficiently serious as to be destructive of trust and confidence thereby entitling her to resign from her employment.

“We are satisfied that the failure to undertake a risk assessment, together with Mr Kalley’s inaction in October 2020 were material factors in her decision to resign.”

She will be awarded compensation at a later date.


….no one/no employee should ever feel as though they have no alternative but to leave their employ and no employee should feel as though their working experience has left them ‘broken and stripped of confidence’….Nicola Hinds was 12 years in their employ, shame on them for not ensuring that her working environment was what it should have been to not have led to this…

user104658
04-04-2024, 03:00 PM
Lol let's play a guessing game at which members on the thread have absolutely zero experience in workplace or office management of any kind :hehe:. Clueless.

Crimson Dynamo
04-04-2024, 03:09 PM
Lol let's play a guessing game at which members on the thread have absolutely zero experience in workplace or office management of any kind :hehe:. Clueless.

this isn't an office

:hehe:


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJo7S3g_NfdaUXBFj-LzXa958h5RjiE06jr8Egt14Obg&s

user104658
04-04-2024, 03:14 PM
this isn't an office

:hehe:


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJo7S3g_NfdaUXBFj-LzXa958h5RjiE06jr8Egt14Obg&s

I haven't worked at the bookies for a full 5 years at this point, keep up LT... some of our lives have moved on while you were distracted selling dusty pots.

Also - not to be disparaging of my old place of employ or of other minimum wage slog - but I imagine management of staff at MITIE is in fact considerably closer to management of staff at a bookmakers than it is to my current cushy office life. I only work with extremely middle-class University graduates these days. It's all very... polite... in comparison.

UserSince2005
04-04-2024, 03:14 PM
Why companies don’t hire women even though they can pay them so much less

thesheriff443
04-04-2024, 03:24 PM
I haven't worked at the bookies for a full 5 years at this point, keep up LT... some of our lives have moved on while you were distracted selling dusty pots.

Also - not to be disparaging of my old place of employ or of other minimum wage slog - but I imagine management of staff at MITIE is in fact considerably closer to management of staff at a bookmakers than it is to my current cushy office life. I only work with extremely middle-class University graduates these days. It's all very... polite... in comparison.

But in reality, no one on here gives a fcuk

This isn’t my jobs better than yours

user104658
04-04-2024, 03:41 PM
But in reality, no one on here gives a fcuk

This isn’t my jobs better than yours

LT's the one who brought up specifics, I was only pointing out that there are some people in the thread talking absolute ****e that would get them sacked if they tried it in any actual employment role :joker:.

Oliver_W
04-04-2024, 04:12 PM
Why companies don’t hire women even though they can pay them so much less

Only if they don't work in the same position and the same hours.

Mystic Mock
04-04-2024, 10:24 PM
They are not real men,
There are no real men anymore just soft pricks walking round with stupid beards and babies strapped to there chest

Good for nothing more than playing video games

:nono:

I'm going to have to get you canceled on Twitter over hurting my feelings.:bawling::joker:

user104658
05-04-2024, 10:19 AM
They are not real men,
There are no real men anymore just soft pricks walking round with stupid beards and babies strapped to there chest

Good for nothing more than playing video games

My self for one
I do the fcuking I don’t want a woman to push a cucumber up my bum for starters

A man with the hands on approach and not needing another man to out my problems

Totally wrong as usual
I’ve got more time for strong independent women than sad p1ss heads

And those that call someone bro and dude are pathetic examples of society

:joker: how did I miss all of this yesterday?? Absolute gold, you've not done this daft swagger for a while Sheriff are you feeling stressed?

I bet 90% of daft pricks with beards could absolutely twat you, WITH the baby strapped to their chest, and go straight back to their video game without breaking a sweat. Have to say I don't think anyone is interested in putting veggies up your arse though Sheriff.

Glenn.
05-04-2024, 12:46 PM
My self for one
I do the fcuking I don’t want a woman to push a cucumber up my bum for starters

A man with the hands on approach and not needing another man to out my problems

:laugh2::laugh2:

user104658
05-04-2024, 01:04 PM
I mean sheriff once offered me out for a fight on here so that tells you the kind of mentality he is. Wannabe thug that would fold like a wet paper towel in real life :joker:

I even got a location once (the town centre of some ****hole in Middle England I think) but I couldn't find a Megabus with a brave enough driver to go there.

Oliver_W
05-04-2024, 01:51 PM
I even got a location once (the town centre of some ****hole in Middle England I think) but I couldn't find a Megabus with a brave enough driver to go there.

Wow, he even scares the bus drivers?! That's quite a reputation our Billy Big Bollock has.

thesheriff443
05-04-2024, 01:55 PM
You can have your fun on the forum but everyone on here knows who the sad bastards are.

user104658
05-04-2024, 02:02 PM
You can have your fun on the forum but everyone on here knows who the sad bastards are.

Oh Sheriff...

Crimson Dynamo
05-04-2024, 02:13 PM
I think what this thread shows is that the lady in question would not be suitable to join Tibb

we thank her for her time and wish her well in the future

user104658
05-04-2024, 02:31 PM
I think what this thread shows is that the lady in question would not be suitable to join Tibb

we thank her for her time and wish her well in the future

Yes it's not really for the sensitive souls in 2024, some people get awfully upset about the strangest things.

Glenn.
05-04-2024, 02:43 PM
I even got a location once (the town centre of some ****hole in Middle England I think) but I couldn't find a Megabus with a brave enough driver to go there.

When I tell you I laughed out loud that day. Bless him

Beso
05-04-2024, 04:13 PM
You shat it Glenn, stop trying to play hard now.

And stop kissing TS arse, its nauseating.

user104658
05-04-2024, 04:59 PM
You shat it Glenn, stop trying to play hard now.


I refuse to believe that anyone is actually intimidated by random anonymous blokes puffing their own trumpet on a reality telly forum. Come on now Parmy :joker:. It's not even scary when smokey old pub grubs try it on face-to-face ... I dealt with it for 9 years every bloody day, and not one threat ever came to anything. Just furrowed brows and loud noises. All bark, zero bite, wuff wuff wuff. I know the script.

And stop kissing TS arse, its nauseating.

You surely can't say this with a straight face whilst actively riding into thread to White Knight for Princess Sheriff :think:

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbWc2YnY3NHozbjdvczJ6dzgwbmhsdm0 1bGN5YjZib25zc3hmcXUwNiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/ti3i7ZUbBmkZG/giphy.gif

Mystic Mock
06-04-2024, 12:22 AM
Totally wrong as usual
I’ve got more time for strong independent women than sad p1ss heads

And those that call someone bro and dude are pathetic examples of society

Tbf most types of women are great.

Only watch out for the ones that work at Kotaku.:joker:

Mystic Mock
06-04-2024, 12:25 AM
:joker: how did I miss all of this yesterday?? Absolute gold, you've not done this daft swagger for a while Sheriff are you feeling stressed?

I bet 90% of daft pricks with beards could absolutely twat you, WITH the baby strapped to their chest, and go straight back to their video game without breaking a sweat. Have to say I don't think anyone is interested in putting veggies up your arse though Sheriff.

Being brutally honest.

Going by The Sheriff's definition of a "real man" then none of us on this site are real men, because we're on a BB Forum.:laugh:

Mystic Mock
06-04-2024, 12:37 AM
You can have your fun on the forum but everyone on here knows who the sad bastards are.

Well I've got over 50,000 posts on this Forum, and have posted regularly for nearly 15 years now.

Nobody can be sadder than that.:dance::joker:

user104658
06-04-2024, 09:52 AM
Being brutally honest.

Going by The Sheriff's definition of a "real man" then none of us on this site are real men, because we're on a BB Forum.:laugh:

Indeed Mock, some existential crisis will be afoot when people realise that (if we're going to start stereotyping) neither watching reality telly, nor pissing about on Internet forums, are particularly "manly" passtimes :laugh:.