Eurovision 2024: The Finales (May 11th) BBC1(HD) 8PM Discussion

[Barry.]

Since I’m not one to be against any act really, minus the war gang. Here is where we’ll watch the final of Eurovision. I’ll update when all acts are chosen and which place they will sing at

[Kate!]

Since I’m not one to be against any act really, minus the war gang. Here is where we’ll watch the final of Eurovision. I’ll update when all acts are chosen and which place they will sing at

Thank you Barry

[Barry.]

Through so far;


Sweden Marcus & Martinus "Unforgettable"
Germany Isaak "Always on the Run"
Ireland Bambie Thug "Doomsday Blue"
Lithuania Silvester Belt "Luktelk"
Luxembourg Tali "Fighter"
United Kingdom Olly Alexander "Dizzy"
Cyprus Silia Kapsis "Liar"
Finland Windows95man[c] "No Rules!"
France Slimane "Mon amour"
Slovenia Raiven "Veronika"
Croatia Baby Lasagna "Rim Tim Tagi Dim"
Italy Angelina Mango "La noia"
Portugal Iolanda "Grito"
Serbia Teya Dora "Ramonda"
Spain Nebulossa "Zorra"
Ukraine Alyona Alyona and Jerry - "Teresa & Maria"

[joeysteele]

Great.
Thank you Barry for setting this up.

I'm really looking forward to Eurovision.

[Barry.]

So the finales are;

Sweden Marcus & Martinus "Unforgettable"
Germany Isaak "Always on the Run"
Greece Marina Satti "Zari"
Ireland Bambie Thug "Doomsday Blue"
Lithuania Silvester Belt "Luktelk"
Luxembourg Tali "Fighter"
United Kingdom Olly Alexander "Dizzy"
Austria Kaleen "We Will Rave"
Cyprus Silia Kapsis "Liar"
Finland Windows95man[c] "No Rules!"
France Slimane "Mon amour"
Norway Gåte "Ulveham"
Slovenia Raiven "Veronika"
Armenia Ladaniva "Jako"
Croatia Baby Lasagna "Rim Tim Tagi Dim"
Estonia 5miinust and Puuluup "(Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi"
Georgia Nutsa Buzaladze "Firefighter"
Israel Eden Golan "Hurricane"
Italy Angelina Mango "La noia"
Latvia Dons "Hollow"
Netherlands Joost Klein "Europapa"
Portugal Iolanda "Grito"
Serbia Teya Dora "Ramonda"
Spain Nebulossa "Zorra"
Switzerland Nemo "The Code"
Ukraine Alyona Alyona and Jerry Heil "Teresa & Maria"

The order of who will go in will be revealed tomorrow I think so stay tuned!

[Mystic Mock]

My personal top three going into the final are Norway, Croatia, and Ireland.

You watch Netherlands talking song go and win instead.:joker:

[arista]

So the finales are;

Sweden Marcus & Martinus "Unforgettable"
Germany Isaak "Always on the Run"
Greece Marina Satti "Zari"
Ireland Bambie Thug "Doomsday Blue"
Lithuania Silvester Belt "Luktelk"
Luxembourg Tali "Fighter"
United Kingdom Olly Alexander "Dizzy"
Austria Kaleen "We Will Rave"
Cyprus Silia Kapsis "Liar"
Finland Windows95man[c] "No Rules!"
France Slimane "Mon amour"
Norway Gåte "Ulveham"
Slovenia Raiven "Veronika"
Armenia Ladaniva "Jako"
Croatia Baby Lasagna "Rim Tim Tagi Dim"
Estonia 5miinust and Puuluup "(Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi"
Georgia Nutsa Buzaladze "Firefighter"
Israel Eden Golan "Hurricane"
Italy Angelina Mango "La noia"
Latvia Dons "Hollow"
Netherlands Joost Klein "Europapa"
Portugal Iolanda "Grito"
Serbia Teya Dora "Ramonda"
Spain Nebulossa "Zorra"
Switzerland Nemo "The Code"
Ukraine Alyona Alyona and Jerry Heil "Teresa & Maria"

The order of who will go in will be revealed tomorrow I think so stay tuned!


Yes Usrael Should Win
that would be so nice.

[arista]

8PM -11:55PM BBC1HD Saturday

Barry, do you think this is over long?

Too much time on this

[Zizu]

So the finales are;

SwedenMarcus & Martinus"Unforgettable"
GermanyIsaak"Always on the Run"
GreeceMarina Satti"Zari"
IrelandBambie Thug"Doomsday Blue"
LithuaniaSilvester Belt"Luktelk"
LuxembourgTali"Fighter"
United KingdomOlly Alexander"Dizzy"
AustriaKaleen"We Will Rave"
CyprusSilia Kapsis"Liar"
FinlandWindows95man[c]"No Rules!"
FranceSlimane"Mon amour"
NorwayGåte"Ulveham"
SloveniaRaiven"Veronika"
ArmeniaLadaniva"Jako"
CroatiaBaby Lasagna"Rim Tim Tagi Dim"
Estonia5miinust and Puuluup"(Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi"
GeorgiaNutsa Buzaladze"Firefighter"
IsraelEden Golan"Hurricane"
ItalyAngelina Mango"La noia"
LatviaDons"Hollow"
NetherlandsJoost Klein"Europapa"
PortugalIolanda"Grito"
SerbiaTeya Dora"Ramonda"
SpainNebulossa"Zorra"
SwitzerlandNemo"The Code"
UkraineAlyona Alyona and Jerry Heil"Teresa & Maria"

The order of who will go in will be revealed tomorrow I think so stay tuned!


So why are Denmark so unpopular these days ??

Perfect Eurovision pop melody laden track ??


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[Zizu]

8PM -11:55PM BBC1HD Saturday

Barry, do you think this is over long?

Too much time on this


I prefer just sitting down to watch it on Saturday evenings


No meed for semi finals.. especially as they don’t even select the best songs


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[Vanessa]

This year competition is very tough.
Good songs may not do as well as they usually would.
Because there are some real stand out tracks in there that are going to do brilliantly.

[joeysteele]

This year competition is very tough.
Good songs may not do as well as they usually would.
Because there are some real stand out tracks in there that are going to do brilliantly.

I agree, it is a strong line up.

I'm so looking forward to it.

[Nicky91]

i'm voting for either Estonia or Norway tomorrow



Norway gives me goosebumps :love: Queen of Vocals Gunnhild on par with Floor Jansen AMAZING :flutter:


Estonia are such bop daddies, and that dance is so much fun (almost on k-pop standards tbh)

[Vanessa]

i'm voting for either Estonia or Norway tomorrow



Norway gives me goosebumps :love: Queen of Vocals Gunnhild on par with Floor Jansen AMAZING :flutter:


Estonia are such bop daddies, and that dance is so much fun (almost on k-pop standards tbh)
Your entry is good as well.
I think they will do very well.
I'm voting for Croatia and Italy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ukraine get dreaded 2nd in running order slot

so count them out

[Barry.]

8PM -11:55PM BBC1HD Saturday

Barry, do you think this is over long?

Too much time on this

I think it will finish later. It usually goes over the time

[Vanessa]

Do we know the performing order yet?

[Nicky91]

Ukraine get dreaded 2nd in running order slot

so count them out

no

as the voting opens from beginning of the show ;)

[Crimson Dynamo]

no

as the voting opens from beginning of the show ;)

Lots of people miss the opening of the show so that wont matter

[Nicky91]

Desiree Nosbusch luxembourg's ESC presenter in the 80s being their spokesperson also iconic tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNODwsdWgAACzi_?format=jpg&name=medium

[Nicky91]

ethno ballad from Israel the new no.1 favourite to win

[Nicky91]

also imagine participating in a entertainment music show when ur country is at war

how ignorant is that, people are dying in your country and in gaza, and you are all smiling, performing on that malmo stage


they should've just not taken part this year because of the war, is that so difficult? Armenia pulled out for this exact reason in 2021

[Crimson Dynamo]

Vote Israel

https://www.esc.vote/

[Barry.]

I’ll put the order they run at in a bit got people over

[Barry.]

Vote Israel

https://www.esc.vote/

They are definitely making top 5 now but I’m hoping Baby Lasagna gets a great score and Ireland

[Nicky91]

running order might be adjusted though, concerning if Netherlands are DQ'd or not


press conference by NPO/AVROTROS now

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/marsgthebook/status/1788937215789191377


all because that Eden Golan woman, probably too triggered that Joost said to the press conference presenter ''why not'' to eden not having to answer a question like if other countries are in danger because of israel's participation

**** off EBU

[Redway]

I just can’t get with their pro-Israel stance.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wow Holland kicked out

:shocked:

they were a top 5 fave

[Nicky91]

Wow Holland kicked out

:shocked:

they were a top 5 fave

yeah well money talks for the EBU

MoroccanOil is a israeli sponsor, so obviously thats why EBU defends them so passionately :yuk:


and they were so quick to bully Russia out, or expel Belarus, or to let Hungary, Turkiye withdraw that easily on long term


hypocrites

[Crimson Dynamo]

so he wont perform tomorrow?

[Nicky91]

so he wont perform tomorrow?

we don't know yet

[Nicky91]

meanwhile dutch fans are making loud noises disturbing other finalists their rehearsals :fan:

making sure they can't rehearse properly either

[Vanessa]

Oh no. Not Netherlands. Really liked that one :shocked:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Look at this disgusting behavoir by Greece

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[Nicky91]

Oh no. Not Netherlands. Really liked that one :shocked:

Eden Golan from the privileged MoroccanOil country

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Nicky91]

she and her stupid pink hair, ariana grande wannabe loser

[Vanessa]

The running order for tomorrow is on the app.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Joost Klein is being investigated for an unspecified incident and it is not known whether he will be allowed to take part in the Eurovision finals this Saturday.

It comes after the singer covered himself in a flag, in an act of disrespect as Israeli singer Eden Golan spoke at a press conference.

Klein had also confronted the Israeli singer asking her why she chose not to answer a question from a journalist on whether she felt she was causing a security risk.

It is not immediately clear whether this was the reason for the investigation being launched, however there is widespread speculation that his behavior towards the Israeli singer is the reason behind the decision.

[Nicky91]

Joost Klein is being investigated for an unspecified incident and it is not known whether he will be allowed to take part in the Eurovision finals this Saturday.

It comes after the singer covered himself in a flag, in an act of disrespect as Israeli singer Eden Golan spoke at a press conference.

Klein had also confronted the Israeli singer asking her why she chose not to answer a question from a journalist on whether she felt she was causing a security risk.

It is not immediately clear whether this was the reason for the investigation being launched, however there is widespread speculation that his behavior towards the Israeli singer is the reason behind the decision.

disrespect???? :laugh3: :laugh3: what a joke of a excuse lmao


No, Martin, No someone was disrespectful to me


bore off privileged talentless woman :idc: your country shouldn't have taken part in the first place, countries who are at war cannot take part in eurovision, in my opinion




but yeah No Joost, No Final for me then, ESC is over then for me for good if EBU really kick us out because of this pathetic woke reason

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/ESCdiscord/status/1788963021873668573

shut the **** up, stupid upper class swedes pls :rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So disrespect to other singers/nations and now violence

wow

:umm2:

[Vanessa]

Israel won't be getting any votes from me. I also don't think they should be taking part. Not considered what's going on.

[Nicky91]

So disrespect to other singers/nations and now violence

wow

:umm2:

if only Israel didn't take part, we wouldn't have this drama, but that self centered Eden Golan woman only thinking about her own fame, very disrespectful, if anything of disrespect, not thinking about people dying in her country but thinking about her career :rolleyes: and EBU are guilty thinking about MoroccanOil sponsor money above anything else

[Barry.]

Nicky you were all with Isreal yesterday and were telling victims to ****** off. Pick a side!

[Nicky91]

Nicky you were all with Isreal yesterday and were telling victims to ****** off. Pick a side!

song wise it is a good song, but they shouldn't have taken part


i gave them a 9.0 last night, for the song


but not that i approve of their participation, i myself don't bring politics into giving scores, i judge the songs in a fair and square way

[Nicky91]

Netherlands and Greece we stand united against the nasty beloved EBU pet Israel, all for the sake of MoroccanOil


how much bribe money are Israel paying EBU then with that sponsor deal, 7 million or 8 million?

[joeysteele]

I'm thinking my votes will likely go to Croatia and Estonia.
My mind may change on the night .

Oh gosh, I was just hoping for a good contest and enjoying the songs.

I know the voting is often political or based on reputations of Countries.
The contest itself shouldn't be overshadowed by this controversy.

I may yet even bring in Ireland for votes.
I love Ireland the Country and theirs is so different to the others .

I'll judge them again on the night because my mind has changed before in past Eurovisions.
Just hope the clouds of controversial issues get cleared away.

I guess major events now like Eurovision will be targets for protests, demonstrations and tensions which is just really bad in my view.

[Barry.]

I'm thinking my votes will likely go to Croatia and Estonia.
My mind may change on the night .

Oh gosh, I was just hoping for a good contest and enjoying the songs.

I know the voting is often political or based on reputations of Countries.
The contest itself shouldn't be overshadowed by this controversy.

I may yet even bring in Ireland for votes.
I love Ireland the Country and theirs is so different to the others .

I'll judge them again on the night because my mind has changed before in past Eurovisions.
Just hope the clouds of controversial issues get cleared away.

I guess major events now like Eurovision will be targets for protests, demonstrations and tensions which is just really bad in my view.

I’m voting Croatia and Ireland I think

[Vanessa]

I'm voting Croatia and Italy.

[joeysteele]

I’m voting Croatia and Ireland I think

Mine may end up that way too Barry.

[Vanessa]

Netherlands is still in the line up on the app. So who knows what's going on?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Croatia and Israel for me

the 2 best songs

[joeysteele]

The whole organisers of the ESC must be panicking.

Because should Israel win this and there's been all this controversy because of Israel competing.
Which honestly to me is ridiculous there should be any controversy about Israel competing.
They've full rights to do so.

However were they to win, how the organisers will feel at the prospect of the contest in Israel next year.
With the prospect of the conflict still going on for some time possibly.
How many Nations would go to Israel.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It will be rigged so that Israel wont win

[joeysteele]

It will be rigged so that Israel wont win

I hate to say it but that thought crossed my mind too.

[Barry.]

It will be rigged so that Israel wont win

I think it’s the other way around. They haven’t given Israel any warning about mocking the NL singers dead parents or trying to start fights with other countries and mocking the other countries in a TikTok video but others have been told off for many things they have done to the Israel singers crew. It should be a two way system

[Vanessa]

I think it’s the other way around. They haven’t given Israel any warning about mocking the NL singers dead parents or trying to start fights with other countries and mocking the other countries in a TikTok video but others have been told off for many things they have done to the Israel singers crew. It should be a two way system
This!

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think it’s the other way around. They haven’t given Israel any warning about mocking the NL singers dead parents or trying to start fights with other countries and mocking the other countries in a TikTok video but others have been told off for many things they have done to the Israel singers crew. It should be a two way system

apart from "reading this on X"

can you provide evidence?

[Oliver_W]

I hope Israel does win just to piss protesters off tbh.

And no, I haven't heard a single song from this year's Eurovision, not even ours :joker:

[joeysteele]

What a mess for this contest this year.
All this at this late stage too.

[Vanessa]

Croatia has a nice pimp slot. :dance:

[Vanessa]

What a mess for this contest this year.
All this at this late stage too.

Yes, it's all getting too political. It's meant to be a fun night.

[arista]

The Dutch Entry is now Suspended


SkyNewsHD


https://news.sky.com/story/eurovision-the-netherlands-entry-joost-klein-not-rehearsing-until-further-notice-over-incident-13132862

[Crimson Dynamo]

get Greece out too

[Barry.]

apart from "reading this on X"

can you provide evidence?

Go on x and see the clips that’s been posted. They show to be filming joost when he asked them not to do it. It’s very rude

[Barry.]

The Dutch Entry is now Suspended


SkyNewsHD


https://news.sky.com/story/eurovision-the-netherlands-entry-joost-klein-not-rehearsing-until-further-notice-over-incident-13132862

It doesn’t say he’s suspended it says won’t preform until further notice

[Mystic Mock]

i'm voting for either Estonia or Norway tomorrow



Norway gives me goosebumps :love: Queen of Vocals Gunnhild on par with Floor Jansen AMAZING :flutter:


Estonia are such bop daddies, and that dance is so much fun (almost on k-pop standards tbh)

I've just checked a picture of Floor Jansen on Google.

I'm now a fan.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

also imagine participating in a entertainment music show when ur country is at war

how ignorant is that, people are dying in your country and in gaza, and you are all smiling, performing on that malmo stage


they should've just not taken part this year because of the war, is that so difficult? Armenia pulled out for this exact reason in 2021

I think that the treatment that she's received has been disgusting tbh.

She's not Netanyahu, and the fact that some people can't separate the two of them is honestly pathetic, and that they're losing perspective.

[Mystic Mock]

I just can’t get with their pro-Israel stance.

That's fair.

What do you think about the singer needing so much security, just to stop some people from trying to harm her? Because to me they should be making your point that you've made in this post, but instead these people choose to want to be lunatics instead.

[Mystic Mock]

yeah well money talks for the EBU

MoroccanOil is a israeli sponsor, so obviously thats why EBU defends them so passionately :yuk:


and they were so quick to bully Russia out, or expel Belarus, or to let Hungary, Turkiye withdraw that easily on long term


hypocrites

Tbf, Russia and Belarus are 100% in the wrong/the instigators during every single conflict against Ukraine.

Where as Israel versus Palestine isn't so black and white, hence why both groups have such a large group of followers.

[Mystic Mock]

Look at this disgusting behavoir by Greece

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Wow!

I really don't feel bad to say that her song was complete and utter garbage.

[Zizu]

Look at this disgusting behavoir by Greece

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I hate the song ( barely a song) but maybe she was genuinely exhausted ?


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[arista]

It doesn’t say he’s suspended it says won’t preform until further notice


Yes it's a Temp Suspension


At that time I posted it,
on the Live News on TV
it was called Suspension.

[arista]

Israel has won this 4 times before

They started in 1973 in this Euro Song Contest.

Ch4HDnews reported on Golan,
on her return to Israel,
she must now join the Army,
under the normal draft.

[joeysteele]

I think that the treatment that she's received has been disgusting tbh.

She's not Netanyahu, and the fact that some people can't separate the two of them is honestly pathetic, and that they're losing perspective.

Absolutely right Mock

I feel for her as well.
Like the others she's part of a music/singing competition, doing her very best like the other entrants too..

I thought it wrong that the Israel song had to be altered to stay in the competition.

Your last point there, really sums things up perfectly.

[Oliver_W]

I just can’t get with their pro-Israel stance.

I "just can't get with" people acting like a singer is being held responsible for her government.

[Nicky91]

it is no longer a music competition though


corrupt Israelivision more like, look at that smug israeli delegation provoking a lot of hatred, with their smug grins on their faces :yuk:



i hope we netherlands withdraw for good from this stinking rotten contest :idc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dont vote for Ireland

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[arista]

Joost will not Perform Tonight


Swedish Police looking into the threats
he made on the young 20 year old


All Media

[arista]

Netherlands is still in the line up on the app. So who knows what's going on?


Not anymore

They are now out of tonight

[arista]

Joost is a Punk Bully
picking on a young 20 year old singer.

[arista]

Klein has not been disqualified



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68993726

[Crimson Dynamo]

Eurovision Song Contest: Dutch contestant Joost Klein disqualified

The Dutch artist Joost Klein has been disqualified from the Eurovision Song Contest after a backstage incident.

The performer has been sent home after an allegation of intimidation was made to Swedish police by a female member of the production crew.

In a statement, the contest organisers said "it would not be appropriate for him to continue in the contest" while the legal process takes place.

Klein had been among the favourites to win with his song, Europapa.



This is a breaking news story and will be updated.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68993726

[Liam-]

Lmao, representing a country slaughtering tens of thousands of children is perfectly fine though, EBU is cooked

[arista]

Lmao, representing a country slaughtering tens of thousands of children is perfectly fine though, EBU is cooked


She is aged 20
and not responsible
for her Political Leader

Is a better way to look at this
Slick Liam

[Liam-]

Nah, she’s an open supporter of the ongoing genocide and has publicly said that she’s going to be joining the forces that are wiping out entire generations of innocent civilians, she’s not just an innocent bystander, she’s an advocate for the deaths of 40,000+ innocents

[joeysteele]

Netherlands though neither should be disqualified.
Not at this stage.

[arista]

Nah, she’s an open supporter of the ongoing genocide and has publicly said that she’s going to be joining the forces that are wiping out entire generations of innocent civilians, she’s not just an innocent bystander, she’s an advocate for the deaths of 40,000+ innocents

But again
she has no say in her nation's politics.


After this event
she will be drafted under the law.

[Liam-]

I think it’s the other way around. They haven’t given Israel any warning about mocking the NL singers dead parents or trying to start fights with other countries and mocking the other countries in a TikTok video but others have been told off for many things they have done to the Israel singers crew. It should be a two way system

Absolutely, they’re doing everything in their power to protect the Israeli delegation, very clear favouritism going on, suppression of press and expression ‘united by music’ unless you stand against mass murder, then you can shut up and deal with it face consequences

[arista]

Netherlands though neither should be disqualified.
Not at this stage.


No,
Joey.


Swedish Police were brought in.


Joost was Bullying the 20-year-old singer
in a rehearsal.

He was Right to state he will Not Perform.

Nasty Punk

[Liam-]

But again
she has no say in her nation's politics.


After this event
she will be drafted under the law.

Obviously she has no say in the decisions, but she’s an open supporter of them, anybody that supports the mass slaughtering on children should have no platform, especially a platform which is supposedly a ‘peaceful unifier’

[Liam-]

No,
Joey.


Swedish Police were brought in.


Joost was Bullying the 20-year-old singer
in a rehearsal.

He was Right to state he will Not Perform.

Nasty Punk

The incident in question has nothing to do with Israel, it was a Swedish production member

[arista]

The incident in question has nothing to do with Israel, it was a Swedish production member



Good

[arista]

Obviously she has no say in the decisions, but she’s an open supporter of them, anybody that supports the mass slaughtering on children should have no platform, especially a platform which is supposedly a ‘peaceful unifier’


Representing the nation
she has no choice,
to be fair

[Liam-]

No she definitely has a choice and she’s choosing to support genocide

[arista]

No she definitely has a choice and she’s choosing to support genocide


Not if you represent that nation
She is young aged 20.

She is singing well.

[arista]

What if Tonight's 2nd Aurora Solar Storm
Cuts the Live Feed from Sweden?


You will have to go to a Radio station

[Liam-]

She made the decision to represent the country, because she’s proud of the country and what they are doing to innocent civilians, she deserves the smoke

[Vanessa]

Eurovision Song Contest: Dutch contestant Joost Klein disqualified

The Dutch artist Joost Klein has been disqualified from the Eurovision Song Contest after a backstage incident.

The performer has been sent home after an allegation of intimidation was made to Swedish police by a female member of the production crew.

In a statement, the contest organisers said "it would not be appropriate for him to continue in the contest" while the legal process takes place.

Klein had been among the favourites to win with his song, Europapa.



This is a breaking news story and will be updated.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68993726
That's a shame. I was looking forward to it.

[Vanessa]

She made the decision to represent the country, because she’s proud of the country and what they are doing to innocent civilians, she deserves the smoke

100% agree with you on this. Israel will never get my votes.
Watch them win tonight. Pity vote. Urgh

[NICKP]

Netflix documentary of Eurovision 2024 is going to be a hit

[bots]

it's going to kick off tonight isn't it :laugh:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/11/12/84736009-13406847-image-a-15_1715425315529.jpg

Police taking good control

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/05/11/197730373456446984/308x174_JPG-SINGLE_197730373456446984.jpg


[Eurovision Dutch contender Joost Klein
has been axed from the contest after
being quizzed by police over an incident
involving 'a female member of the
production crew'.

Entering with the song Europapa, a tribute
to his late parents,
the 26-year-old Dutch rapper and singer
had qualified for the grand final on
Thursday evening at the Malmo Arena
venue in Sweden but will no longer be
allowed to compete.

His participation was already in doubt
after he failed to perform at two dress
rehearsals on Friday,
with Swedish police later announcing
it was investigating the singer following
a complaint made by 'a female member
of the production crew'
over an incident after his
semi-final performance.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13406847/Eurovision-Dutch-contender-Joost-Klein-AXED-Israel-final.html

[Nicky91]

i apologize for having blamed Israel for our DQ


what Joost did was wrong, either verbal or physical, not sure yet which one of assault


2025 we should withdraw for one year maybe, shame i cannot vote then (or as part of RoW i can though but tbh my votes never help that much anyway)




Good Luck to all 25 finalists tonight then, i think Israel could win, but i also think Croatia can win, more exciting who will win the jury voting, i think France with Latvia as a strong outsider

[Crimson Dynamo]

i apologize for having blamed Israel for our DQ


what Joost did was wrong, either verbal or physical, not sure yet which one of assault


2025 we should withdraw for one year maybe, shame i cannot vote then (or as part of RoW i can though but tbh my votes never help that much anyway)




Good Luck to all 25 finalists tonight then, i think Israel could win, but i also think Croatia can win, more exciting who will win the jury voting, i think France with Latvia as a strong outsider

But you wont be watching so why bother?

[arista]

Live: Ireland absent from absent from the Eurovision Flag Ceremony

SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Norwegian Juror Lady
has pulled out.

They did not Quilafiy

6 hours to go.


SkyNewsHD Live Debate

[Crimson Dynamo]

Live: Ireland absent from absent from the Eurovision Flag Ceremony

SkyNewsHD

Hopefully that hateful little Marxist will pull out

:fc:

[arista]

Hopefully that hateful little Marxist will pull out

:fc:


The journalist (Callum Rowe)
speaking said it is possible.

[arista]

He also said he is not sure
if the Dutch will broadcast it, now?

[arista]

Around 6 Hours
or them to sort out this mess.

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/escinsiders/status/1789281344507228398

and this is within the rules how exactly


filming without permission is forbidden if i can remember correctly, like everywhere?

[Nicky91]

He also said he is not sure
if the Dutch will broadcast it, now?

we have to broadcast it

[arista]

Because BBCnewsHD now goes out to the World
and the UK

They put it starts at 19:00 hours that this event starts

[Nicky91]

filming without permission is literally spying on your competition


but this is seen through the fingers by the hypocrite EBU



what a bunch of morons in charge at the EBU, after this years contest, we need a change of leadership pls, stricter leadership, a real no-politics policy regardless of big sponsor deals

[arista]

we have to broadcast it


I assume he heard from some
from the Broadcaster
who are angry, at this time.


But it would be strange if your broadcaster did pull out.

[Nicky91]

I assume he heard from some
from the Broadcaster
who are angry, at this time.


But it would be strange if your broadcaster did pull out.

our broadcaster did nothing wrong

Joost himself did


we are also still allowed to vote honestly, so this is more like we being the unofficial 26th place with a DQ result

[arista]

our broadcaster did nothing wrong

Joost himself did


we are also still allowed to vote honestly, so this is more like we being the unofficial 26th place with a DQ result


Of Course

[Crimson Dynamo]

No way should people in Holland be able to vote now

[Nicky91]

Israel fully well know the EBU lack a backbone, scared to come across as antisemitic, so they are provoking others now

YUK


Netherlands, Ireland, Greece, Switzerland, Norway among those who got filmed without permission by members of the israeli delegation




bore off LT, we did nothing wrong, Joost did


its already horrible enough for us currently

[bots]

No way should people in Holland be able to vote now

this is where the whole happy clappy vibe of eurovision collapses in a heap. I wouldnt be surprised if the live event gets cancelled

[Nicky91]

this is where the whole happy clappy vibe of eurovision collapses in a heap. I wouldnt be surprised if the live event gets cancelled

what all could've been prevented if only EBU had more backbone against Israel

if filming without permission isn't reason enough for a dq, more than Joost's rule break which was hardly a thing, our commentator Cornald Maas said in a NOS interview, we will hear more about that later on


but filming without permission, and filming in general in the venue is prohibited during rehearsals


so yeah double standards once again from the EBU, easy to punish Netherlands without coming across as the bad guy, but easier to protect israel and not coming across as antisemitic

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNTW7Y0WQAAo4qJ?format=jpg&name=small

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/roblilleyjones/status/1789291427572129824

[Nicky91]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNTW7Y0WQAAo4qJ?format=jpg&name=small

EBU being spineless

Israel be like: so we can break any rule we want and get away with it


:idc:

those smug idiots in the israeli delegation, seriously i would've kicked them out before this contest even, i saw this coming long time ago when EBU kept them in the competition this year




THANK YOU Israel for making this years esc season the most miserable, awful yet, thank you (insert sarcasm)

[Nicky91]

and that while i am not against Israeli music, culture tbh, not at all even


they have a fantastic culture



but the way they are behaving themselves now, truly vile how provocative they are acting like a bunch of immature twats, towards other delegations during rehearsals, which is important to have privacy what everyone knows, during that time to remain focused on perfecting your performances

[Crimson Dynamo]

Apparently Paul Gasgoine is in Malmo to watch the song contest but has got himself trapped in his hotel toilet.

Bambie THug , Nemo, Greta and Greece lady are threatening to pull out of the tournament unless they FREE GAZA

https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article24454752.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_AGP_MDM_310720GAZZA_012JPG.jpg

[bots]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNTW7Y0WQAAo4qJ?format=jpg&name=small

why is she standing in front of a giant polo mint

[Crimson Dynamo]

why is she standing in front of a giant polo mint

coz genocide

[arista]

this is where the whole happy clappy vibe of eurovision collapses in a heap. I wouldnt be surprised if the live event gets cancelled


5 hours to sort the mess


Also possible
the 2nd night of Solar Storms
could halt the signals
later on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_storm

[Oliver_W]

Absolutely, they’re doing everything in their power to protect the Israeli delegation

From what?

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/11/16/84740381-13407113-image-a-108_1715440244444.jpg

The popular star singer defiantly walked on stage waving an Israeli flag behind her for her final dress rehearsal

[Nicky91]

Apparently Paul Gasgoine is in Malmo to watch the song contest but has got himself trapped in his hotel toilet.

Bambie THug , Nemo, Greta and Greece lady are threatening to pull out of the tournament unless they FREE GAZA

https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article24454752.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_AGP_MDM_310720GAZZA_012JPG.jpg

leave it to Gazza to get himself trapped in the loo :laugh3: ironic kinda as he is quite the turd of a media personality

[Nicky91]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/11/16/84740381-13407113-image-a-108_1715440244444.jpg

The popular star singer defiantly walked on stage waving an Israeli flag behind her for her final dress rehearsal

of course she did :joker: now is exactly the time to be proud of your nation lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNTt4REWoAEAHR9?format=jpg&name=small

[Vanessa]

There's no way I'm voting for Israel.
All my votes go to Croatia and Italy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNT6zwxXwAA2cBu?format=jpg&name=medium

[Crimson Dynamo]

100 Swedish police officers are transporting the 20-y-old singer Eden Golan
between her hotel & Malmö Arena ahead of the Eurovision Song Contest.


Apart from the long convoy of vehicles, you can hear a police helicopter flying
above.

Malmö is a city with serious problems



https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Car-grab.png?w=620

[joeysteele]

Not that Israel shouldn't win if it's voted to win.
Normally that would be a positive all round .

However, were Israel to win.
After the chaos now with this Eurovision, how many Nations would welcome going to Israel for the contest next year.
After all, our own government does not recommend travel to large parts of Israel at this present time

Whatever now happens in Gaza, is it likely that all will be settled and resolved next year .
Netanyahu seems hellbent on his own mission, which to be fair is mixed with the right to seek out and defeat the wholly evil Hamas terrorist grouping.

What greater chaos though could be in place in Israel and Palestine next year
Look at how long the Ukraine situation has gone on.

Plus too, what other Nation after the mess made of this Eurovision sadly, would want to or even volunteer to stage it next year FOR Israel.
With all the likely problems then following all that's happened here in Sweden.

I do wish this conflict in that sad and troubled area of Israel and Palestine could be brought to a conclusion.
Thinking of the other horrible Nations like Iran looking for opportunities to escalate and capitalise on the conflict too.

If I was the organisers of Eurovision, I would be dreading bigtime an Israel win.
I like Israel's entry, she was superb on the second semi final night.
I won't be voting for it myself but wish her well.

However Croatia I like and still Estonia too
Although I could vote for Ireland too as something out of all the ordinary.
It's desperately sad this controversy clouding the contest this year
It's spoiled the excitement and anticipation for it.
That cannot be repaired.
Even moreso by dumping out a voted for entry namely Netherlands.
That's a kick in the teeth for the voters who voted for the Netherlands.
Voters who weren't from the Netherlands either.

There must have been a better way to deal with the confrontation that occurred.

[Vanessa]

Not that Israel shouldn't win if it's voted to win.
Normally that would be a positive all round .

However, were Israel to win.
After the chaos now with this Eurovision, how many Nations would welcome going to Israel for the contest next year.
After all, our own government does not recommend travel to large parts of Israel at this present time

Whatever now happens in Gaza, is it likely that all will be settled and resolved next year .
Netanyahu seems hellbent on his own mission, which to be fair is mixed with the right to seek out and defeat the wholly evil Hamas terrorist grouping.

What greater chaos though could be in place in Israel and Palestine next year
Look at how long the Ukraine situation has gone on.

Plus too, what other Nation after the mess made of this Eurovision sadly, would want to or even volunteer to stage it next year FOR Israel.
With all the likely problems then following all that's happened here in Sweden.

I do wish this conflict in that sad and troubled area of Israel and Palestine could be brought to a conclusion.
Thinking of the other horrible Nations like Iran looking for opportunities to escalate and capitalise on the conflict too.

If I was the organisers of Eurovision, I would be dreading bigtime an Israel win.
I like Israel's entry, she was superb on the second semi final night.
I won't be voting for it myself but wish her well.

However Croatia I like and still Estonia too
Although I could vote for Ireland too as something out of all the ordinary.
It's desperately sad this controversy clouding the contest this year
It's spoiled the excitement and anticipation for it.
That cannot be repaired.
Even moreso by dumping out a voted for entry namely Netherlands.
That's a kick in the teeth for the voters who voted for the Netherlands.
Voters who weren't from the Netherlands either.

There must have been a better way to deal with the confrontation that occurred.
Yes I don't agree with kicking out Netherlands. They got voted to the final..

[Oliver_W]

Not that Israel shouldn't win if it's voted to win.
Normally that would be a positive all round .

However, were Israel to win.
After the chaos now with this Eurovision, how many Nations would welcome going to Israel for the contest next year.
After all, our own government does not recommend travel to large parts of Israel at this present time

Not dissimilar to Ukraine with their victory. Maybe Israel will get automatic support due to the conflicts too :).

[Crimson Dynamo]

I really believe you aren't mature enough to be on a form with adults.

I reported all his anti-semitism and misogyny but nothing has been done

Alf meanwhile gets his thread closed which contained a, like 10 year tweet of a video of drunk couple having a row that is freely available on just about all social media platforms...

[joeysteele]

Not dissimilar to Ukraine with their victory. Maybe Israel will get automatic support due to the conflicts too :).

I think there's a major difference with the Ukraine conflict.
There was near universal sympathy for Ukraine at that time.

Sadly that's certainly not the case with Israel at this moment in time

There was no condemning of Ukraine by the UN nor any of Ukraine's allies losing patience with the Ukrainian leader either.
Unlike now with Netanyahu of Israel.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The UN are corrupt and noone pays them any heed

[joeysteele]

The UN are corrupt and noone pays them any heed

That's not true at all really with respect.

I'm not sure now myself the UN is fit for purpose.
It looks and comes across very weak, I'd agree there

However many Nations of the World and most of the Nations in the Eurovision song contest DO listen to and consider what the UN says.
Most of the allies of Israel do too I'd say.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is there corruption in the UN?

The United Nations was founded as a forum of governments. This arrangement
presented enough problems of its own. Now the UN, in contravention of its
own charter, is rapidly evolving into a predatory, undemocratic,
unaccountable,
and self-serving vehicle for global government. The UN is unweildy, gross,
inefficient, and incompetent. In addition, it is configured as to reach deep
into the national politics of its member states and, by sheer weight and
persistance, to force at least some of the worst of its agenda upon them all.
Only a handful are brave enough to counter all of this. Indeed, with notable
exceptions, generations of American officials and policy-makers have been
content to look away from the UN's multiform deficiencies and derelictions
while occassionaly indulging in minor punitive measures. For many others in
public life, and for many ordinary citizens as well, the institution itself is still
held in nearly sacred regard.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/295994658_How_corrupt_is_the_United_Nations#:~:tex t=It%20is%20generally%20recognized%20that,...

[bots]

That's not true at all really with respect.

I'm not sure now myself the UN is fit for purpose.
It looks and comes across very weak, I'd agree there

However many Nations of the World and most of the Nations in the Eurovision song contest DO listen to and consider what the UN says.
Most of the allies of Israel do too I'd say.

they only listen to the UN if they agree with them. It's an organisation without teeth.

[Crimson Dynamo]

1789347168563687690

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who is a better role model for children?

Bambie Thug of ireland

A far-left Marxist self-described ‘witch’ who promotes satanic sacrifice, blood rituals and moral depravity?

Eden Golan of Israel

An angelic woman, with the voice of an angel who promotes God, respecting
others and kindness?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNUXw5wXAAACkwQ?format=jpg&name=360x360https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNUXw5qWQAAL7o_?format=jpg&name=360x360

[Kate!]

Who is a better role model for children?

Bambie Thug of ireland

A far-left Marxist self-described ‘witch’ who promotes satanic sacrifice, blood rituals and moral depravity?

Eden Golan of Israel

An angelic woman, with the voice of an angel who promotes God, respecting
others and kindness?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNUXw5wXAAACkwQ?format=jpg&name=360x360https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNUXw5qWQAAL7o_?format=jpg&name=360x360

Am totally with you on this LT. Eden seems like a gentle loving kind person.

[bots]

Can i just say, Doctor Who is atrocious

[joeysteele]

Can i just say, Doctor Who is atrocious

Agree
This isn't working.

I'm not a mad Dr who fan.
However family who love it, haven't enjoyed it all tonight'.

I do agree with you too on the UN having no teeth bots

[Vanessa]

Hooked on a feeling. :dance:

[Ammi]

Hooked on a feeling. :dance:

…Hooked on a Eurovision feeling…:love:…

[Vanessa]

Austria has the pimp slot

[Crimson Dynamo]

Disgraceful from the Swiss knob disrespecting his country for some alphabet politics flag. Shame on him and his far left Marxist politics

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can i just say, Doctor Who is atrocious

Who can think why?

[joeysteele]

That was a great entrance from all the entrants.
Let's hope all stays happy and smiling

[joeysteele]

Stupid though to vote now.
What if a performance goes all wrong ?
Not keen on that change

[Vanessa]

That was a great entrance from all the entrants.
Let's hope all stays happy and smiling

Yes let's just enjoy it.

[joeysteele]

Yes let's just enjoy it.

I intend to Vanessa.

[Vanessa]

Ready everyone? Let's go! :elephant:

[Ammi]

…and here we go…:flutter:…

[joeysteele]

…and here we go…:flutter:…

Hello Ammi :wavey:

[Ammi]

…good luck all performers and countries but more the biggest good luck to our Olly….:love:…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just did 5 phone votes for Israel

[Ammi]

Hello Ammi :wavey:

…hey, hey…:love:…I hope that Eurovision doesn’t disappoint for you, Joey….I hope it’s a wonderful evening….:love:…

[Vanessa]

Loving this. What a great opener :dance:

[Ammi]

…Sweden’s choreography is pretty flawless…

[bots]

this song is so bland

[Kate!]

this song is so bland

Its a borefest

[joeysteele]

…hey, hey…:love:…I hope that Eurovision doesn’t disappoint for you, Joey….I hope it’s a wonderful evening….:love:…

It won't disappoint me.Ammi.

My faves are Croatia, and oddly Estonia.
I may cast a few votes to Ireland for one out of the ordinary one.

I hope Olly does well.
However I know the UK apart from a surprise in 2022 have an uphill task to get votes from other Countries.

So generally know what to likely expect.

[bots]

the set visuals are amazing

[Vanessa]

Love the staging on this.

[joeysteele]

I like this Ukraine one

[Kate!]

Meh

[Ammi]

It won't disappoint me.Ammi.

My faves are Croatia, and oddly Estonia.
I may cast a few votes to Ireland for about of the ordinary one.

I hope Olly does well.
However I know the UK apart from a surprise in 2022 have an uphill task to get votes from other Countries.

So generally know what to likely expect.

…Graham said that Olly was on excellent form earlier and enjoying it all immensely so for him, that’s all a huge part of it…just having the time of his life..

[Ammi]

…Isaak’s dog…:lovedup:…

[joeysteele]

…Graham said that Olly was on excellent form earlier and enjoying it all immensely so for him, that’s all a huge part of it…just having the time of his life..

That's exactly how he is.

[bots]

…Graham said that Olly was on excellent form earlier and enjoying it all immensely so for him, that’s all a huge part of it…just having the time of his life..

it should be about having fun and not taking anything seriously :laugh:

[Vanessa]

it should be about having fun and not taking anything seriously :laugh:

Yes exactly. I hope they all just go out there and have fun.

[bots]

i like this german entry

[joeysteele]

it should be about having fun and not taking anything seriously :laugh:

Yes, treat it like just festival performances.

[joeysteele]

This is better than last time I heard it

[Vanessa]

This guy has got a great voice.

[Ammi]

it should be about having fun and not taking anything seriously :laugh:

….(…I have a sneaky feeling that each/every country/performer likes to win as well, though….but shhhhhh, we’ll keep that to ourselves….)….

[Vanessa]

This is such a bop :dance:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dull

[Ammi]

…I’m quite liking Luxembourg…:love:…

[joeysteele]

This is such a bop :dance:

Yeah, like it

[Kate!]

Still waiting for a song to grab me

[joeysteele]

Israel has a really great singer.
This will be good.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Beautiful

[Vanessa]

As good as she is, she'll never get my votes.

[bots]

i like this a lot

[Ammi]

…it’s a good song/first time I’m hearing it…

[Crimson Dynamo]

In the face of the bigots and racist masses

[joeysteele]

As good as she is, she'll never get my votes.

It's good but not a winner for me.
She's got a great voice no doubt on that

[bots]

it's the power ballad that can do well, and she had a really great voice

[Ammi]

…I’m relying on Armenia or Slovenia to win me the sweepstakes, also…

[bots]

this is garbage :hehe:

[joeysteele]

…I’m relying on Armenia or Slovenia to win me the sweepstakes, also…

Slovenia may be your better bet
Armenia, well oh dear me how.

[bots]

the only entry i heard previously was the uk one

[joeysteele]

I liked Lithuania's beat.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm voting on the song and singer not parochial politics

Sad other are not..

[Ammi]

Slovenia may be your better bet
Armenia, well oh dear me how.

…Slovenia for the win it is then, Joey…:laugh:…how dare Armenia be so disagreeable…!!!!…

[Ammi]

I liked Lithuania's beat.

…I liked the beat as well but it was a little bland beyond that, I thought…

[joeysteele]

…Slovenia for the win it is then, Joey…:laugh:…how dare Armenia be so disagreeable…!!!!…

:joker::joker:,sorry.

[bots]

she is 92?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lovely lady

[Vanessa]

I'm 92, I'm not deaf :laugh2:

[joeysteele]

I like Spain.

[Ammi]

…..oooooo, I’m liking Spain….:love:….

[Vanessa]

Zorra zorra woooooo :dance:

[bots]

spanish hotel cabaret :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Great that.

[Ammi]

spanish hotel cabaret :laugh:

…loving it…

[Vanessa]

:dance:

[Ammi]

….joyful, just soooooo Eurovision….

[Kate!]

Woo woo. Now you're talking. Loved that

[Ammi]

Woo woo. Now you're talking. Loved that

….:love:…

[joeysteele]

This is weird but somehow cranky enough to have me like it from Estonia

[Crimson Dynamo]

Estonia is a no due to sunglasses

[Ammi]

This is weird but somehow cranky enough to have me like it from Estonia

…I have no idea what they’re singing but yeah…I’m in it…

[Vanessa]

:dance::dance:

[bots]

this is so awful, it could be the winner :laugh:

[joeysteele]

It's like a disco Madness group

[Ammi]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeTZocWV2cWhic3BvYWFjcHdiaHM4aDV kaHp6NXBzY3EyZ3gxYXRmMiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/l3vRlT2k2L35Cnn5C/giphy.gif

[joeysteele]

Love it

[bots]

its a male version of Boney M

[Kate!]

Go on Estonia!

[joeysteele]

Oh here we go.

[Vanessa]

this is so awful, it could be the winner :laugh:

It's a lot of fun. I was dancing along :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ireland BOOOOOÓOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FAR LEFT PUNKS

[Kate!]

Worst song of the night.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Shiiiiiiiiiitttte

[Kate!]

Shiiiiiiiiiitttte

:joker:

Yass!

[bots]

well, it's different :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Get off luv

[Vanessa]

This is just not my thing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So bad

[Kate!]

It's godawful. Nil points

[joeysteele]

I could imagine Kate Bush on a crazy day doing something like this.

[bots]

it's pretty good really :smug:

[Vanessa]

It's different, I'll give them that. So it could stand out.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I could imagine Kate Bush on a crazy day doing something like this.

In tune

[Crimson Dynamo]

Greg Wallace