Netherlands Joost Klein under investigation following a incident - israel entry

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/gjkooijman/status/1788916198509330805


EBU becoming similar twats as the FIA tea


drama queen Eden Golan probably was like ''No, Martin, No'' ''Joost did something disrespectful to me and my country at the flag parade''


:idc:

[Vanessa]

I wonder what happened... :shocked:

[Nicky91]

I wonder what happened... :shocked:

i know what happened and its ridiculous he is under investigation by the money lovers EBU



press reporter: are any countries in danger because of israel's participation?

presenter: you don't have to answer that (to Eden)

Joost: why not?


:joker:
:joker:
:joker:
:joker:


was just a normal question, but because that presenter thought this was an insult to their beloved MoroccanOil nation, not wanting eden to answer that **** Off

[Vanessa]

I hope they can perform tomorrow night.:fc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hopefully Greece will also be suspended and disqualified

:fc:

[UserSince2005]

Zero tolerance to these scum, disqualify anyone who wants to be funny.

[Oliver_W]

press reporter: are any countries in danger because of israel's participation?

Misplacing the blame toward Israel for participating, instead of toward the (hopefully) hypothetical terrorists or protesters.

[UserSince2005]

So apparently the beast attacked one of the Israeli delegation and is now definitely not performing in tonight’s jury show. Definitely disqualified thank god

[Mystic Mock]

Misplacing the blame toward Israel for participating, instead of toward the (hopefully) hypothetical terrorists or protesters.

It's becoming trendy to blame Israel for everything these days.

Like it's Israel's fault why the Premier League is so boring nowadays on the Football.

Obviously I've made that part up, but I'm willing to bet that some people would believe me if I didn't specify that I'm messing around, because some people have got lost in their hatred of Israel.

[arista]

So apparently the beast attacked one of the Israeli delegation and is now definitely not performing in tonight’s jury show. Definitely disqualified thank god


What a stink
from Nicky's Nation

[Nicky91]

So apparently the beast attacked one of the Israeli delegation and is now definitely not performing in tonight’s jury show. Definitely disqualified thank god

he didn't attack one of the israeli delegation


wouldn't be surprised if those stinking smug attention seekers within that delegation told this ''story'' to the SVT


and of course since israel = moroccanoil sponsor, they buy every bit of crap they say

:rolleyes:


i am not watching tonights final as a boycott

[Ammi]

…it’s still unknown and unconfirmed etc as to what the investigations are and to whether Netherlands will be taking part…Europapa or Eurotata for Joost Klein…?…

[arista]

he didn't attack one of the israeli delegation


wouldn't be surprised if those stinking smug attention seekers within that delegation told this ''story'' to the SVT


and of course since israel = moroccanoil sponsor, they buy every bit of crap they say

:rolleyes:


i am not watching tonights final as a boycott


OK Nicky
what did he do?

[Vanessa]

Really want Netherlands to perform tonight. Love the song.

[Nicky91]

Really want Netherlands to perform tonight. Love the song.

i don't


if not a dq, withdraw yourself from this hellhole israelivision

[arista]

The Dutch Fella kept interfering
with the Israel 20 year Israel star as she rehearsed


rude bugger

[Crimson Dynamo]

Joost Klein, the Dutch representative at the European Song Contest is strongly
anti-Israel but loves the Russian aggressor state

He released a song 3 weeks after the full-scale invasion with the lyrics:

“l’m Joost Klein. love Russia, I want a Russian woman, I want Russian babies.”

A few weeks later, after the Bucha Massacre, he travelled to St Petersburg to
perform in front of a Russian crowd.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNSdDbHWUAAdShM?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1789227640320094438

[arista]

Yes LT


Joost Klein is a Punk

[arista]

Joost is now out


He will NOT Perform

All media


Dutch contestant Joost Klein Disqualified


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68993726

[Livia]

Joost is now out


He will NOT Perform

All media


Dutch contestant Joost Klein Disqualified


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68993726

Good.

[Denver]

Murderous Isreal need to be stopped, been stealing land and lives for decades now

[Livia]

Murderous Isreal need to be stopped, been stealing land and lives for decades now

You're in the wrong thread.

[joeysteele]

This Eurovision is turning into a shambles.

[Livia]

https://twitter.com/gjkooijman/status/1788916198509330805


EBU becoming similar twats as the FIA tea


drama queen Eden Golan probably was like ''No, Martin, No'' ''Joost did something disrespectful to me and my country at the flag parade''


:idc:

Hope You're going to own your mistake calling Eden Golan a drama queen.

[Denver]

This Eurovision is turning into a shambles.

This could be the start of the end, Isreal has done a lot worse than Russia and for much longer but are being protected and anyone who speaks up punished, I don't see Nethwrlands returning and I'm guessing a few will join them

[Livia]

This incident has nothing to do with Israel.

[arista]

Murderous Isreal need to be stopped, been stealing land and lives for decades now


No this is about a Dutch Bully Joost
picking on a 20-year-old singer lady


Good Police are dealing with him

[Liam-]

Martin needs to go, the competition has gone downhill with scandal after scandal every year since he took over, he’s going to get booed to high heaven tonight and for very good reason, he’ll obviously has it suppressed though like they’ve been piping in fake applause during all the rehearsals and semis for Israel

[Livia]

No this is about a Dutch Bully Joost
picking on a 20-year-old singer lady


Good Police are dealing with him

Thanks arista, the Israel bandwagon mob will take any opportunity.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/11/12/84736295-13406847-image-a-19_1715425708490.jpg

Bugger off home
now

[Nicky91]

we don't need eurovision anyway


even if a withdrawal


here we still have Regio Songfestival :cool: and i myself still will follow the contest even if we don't participate, also the national finals i will still follow what i can on youtube, for the sake of discovering new music, appreciating other countries their cultures etc

[arista]

Rubbish
many Dutch fans are angry
that Joost is a Punk Bully

[Crimson Dynamo]

we don't need eurovision anyway


even if a withdrawal


here we still have Regio Songfestival :cool: and i myself still will follow the contest even if we don't participate, also the national finals i will still follow what i can on youtube, for the sake of discovering new music, appreciating other countries their cultures etc

Perhaps your fellow countryman should stop abusing women and you may still be in it?

[Nicky91]

Perhaps your fellow countryman should stop abusing women and you may still be in it?

i always knew something was off about him honestly


i just liked our song, not his personality



i preferred Flemming, much sweeter, more charming personality (one of our 4, 5 May ambassadors of freedom btw) who has also very modern boppy music in dutch


and no israel isn't too blame for this, so yeah i am a drama queen, not Eden, you hear me now Livia, i said it

[Denver]

No this is about a Dutch Bully Joost
picking on a 20-year-old singer lady


Good Police are dealing with him

It's about that old pedo on the Isreali Delegation picking fights with young people then crying when they retaliate

[Nicky91]

no this topic is about arrogant Joost


his whole attitude stinks tbh, he even didn't want to watch the first semi final because mr needed to be focused for his own performance :idc: :notimpressed: those were already omens of potentially something about to go wrong


also having Gover/Stefano Keizers in his delegation as creative director doesn't exactly help either, a comedian who is known to always create drama and another one who is very arrogant

[arista]

It's about that old pedo on the Isreali Delegation picking fights with young people then crying when they retaliate


No, this thread is about the Dutch Pulling out.

[Cherie]

It's about that old pedo on the Isreali Delegation picking fights with young people then crying when they retaliate

you continue to be as ridiculous as ever


most of these people including yourself couldn't give a stuff about Palestine, its all about jumping on a bandwagon and hating on Jews, that singer has bog all to do with the Israeli government and their actions

[Cherie]

The singer made a threatening gesture to a camera woman as he didn't want to be filmed after coming off stage, sounds a bit up himself tbh

[Ammi]

Dutch broadcaster AVROTROS issued its own statement, which reads: "We have taken note of the disqualification by the EBU. AVROTROS finds the disqualification disproportionate and is shocked by the decision. We deeply regret this.

"An incident occurred after last Thursday's performance. Against clearly made agreements, Joost was filmed when he had just gotten off stage and had to rush to the greenroom. At that moment, Joost repeatedly indicated that he did not want to be filmed.

"This wasn’t respected. This led to a threatening movement from Joost towards the camera. Joost did not touch the camera woman. This incident was reported, followed by an investigation by the EBU and police.

"Yesterday and today we consulted extensively with the EBU and proposed several solutions. Nevertheless, the EBU has still decided to disqualify Joost Klein. AVROTROS finds the penalty very heavy and disproportionate.

"We stand for good manners -let there be no misunderstanding about that- but in our view, an exclusion order is not proportional to this incident.

"We are very disappointed and upset for the millions of fans who were so excited for tonight. What Joost brought to the Netherlands and Europe shouldn’t have ended this way."

[Ammi]

…it all worked out well for him, he won’t be filmed later off stage…

[Crimson Dynamo]

That is great Dutch broadcaster AVROTROS but with respect no one really cares what you "think" should have happened

Just as the EBU has no say or impact on the business decisions that you make for your organization

[bots]

Eurovision should just be a bit of harmless fun, but it never is :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Swedish police give update on Netherlands Eurovision singer Joost Klein after he was questioned for ‘inappropriate behavior’ towards a female crew member.

“A man is suspected of unlawful threats. The crime is said to have been committed at Malmo Arena on Thursday evening.

The man is questioned by the police but not detained. The plaintiff is an employee at Eurovision.

The police have taken all essential investigative measures and questioned the suspect, plaintiff and witnesses. The investigation has been completed by the police.”

The singer has since been disqualified for his behavior and the Netherlands will no longer be a part of the Eurovision Final tonight.

Source: Daily Mail

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNUBvNJXAAIIQop?format=jpg&name=small

[Cherie]

…it all worked out well for him, he won’t be filmed later off stage…

:laugh:

I mean who goes to an event watched by billions and gets prissy about being filmed especially after coming off stage when I expect you are in full make up etc...bizarre

[Cherie]

He was running to the Green Room, maybe he had just wet himself or worse

[Denver]

you continue to be as ridiculous as ever


most of these people including yourself couldn't give a stuff about Palestine, its all about jumping on a bandwagon and hating on Jews, that singer has bog all to do with the Israeli government and their actions
They stole land that was not theirs and committed genocide and attempted to cleanse the are of Palestinians for decades, Isreal is not nor has it ever been a country

[Mystic Mock]

Joost Klein, the Dutch representative at the European Song Contest is strongly
anti-Israel but loves the Russian aggressor state

He released a song 3 weeks after the full-scale invasion with the lyrics:

“l’m Joost Klein. love Russia, I want a Russian woman, I want Russian babies.”

A few weeks later, after the Bucha Massacre, he travelled to St Petersburg to
perform in front of a Russian crowd.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNSdDbHWUAAdShM?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1789227640320094438

So he is just a twat basically?

I can genuinely say that I didn't really like his entry much to begin with.

[Mystic Mock]

Murderous Isreal need to be stopped, been stealing land and lives for decades now

That's not the Israeli singer's fault though.

The way that she has been treated has been disgraceful, the people that have treated her like dirt should honestly be ashamed of themselves.

I have no issue with people being anti-Israel in terms of not liking Netanyahu/the Government, but a singer competing on the Eurovision Song Contest should be treated with basic Human decency.

The fact that I am having to say such a basic thing is shameful.

[Mystic Mock]

This could be the start of the end, Isreal has done a lot worse than Russia and for much longer but are being protected and anyone who speaks up punished, I don't see Nethwrlands returning and I'm guessing a few will join them

I don't know if I would say that Israel is worse than Russia.

I mean Ukraine had done nothing to Russia, and were attacked.

Israel's Government is bad (I do agree with you on that,) but Russia are tyrants towards multiple of their neighbouring countries.

[Denver]

Loreen has confirmed she will not hand Isreal the trophy and a number of Spokespeople who were scheduled to give out their countries votes have now decided they won't take part

[Crimson Dynamo]

Loreen has confirmed she will not hand Isreal the trophy and a number of Spokespeople who were scheduled to give out their countries votes have now decided they won't take part

Israel exposing the bigots and antisemites

we love to see it

:clap1:

[Mystic Mock]

Loreen has confirmed she will not hand Isreal the trophy and a number of Spokespeople who were scheduled to give out their countries votes have now decided they won't take part

So these people are encouraging bullying of one of the contestants?

This sounds a lot like the end run of The X Factor.

[Denver]

So these people are encouraging bullying of one of the contestants?

This sounds a lot like the end run of The X Factor.

Is it bullying? Isreal should not even been there and there has been confirmed situations of the Isreali delegation bullying and harassing other contestants

[Liam-]

That's not the Israeli singer's fault though.

The way that she has been treated has been disgraceful, the people that have treated her like dirt should honestly be ashamed of themselves.

I have no issue with people being anti-Israel in terms of not liking Netanyahu/the Government, but a singer competing on the Eurovision Song Contest should be treated with basic Human decency.

The fact that I am having to say such a basic thing is shameful.

She’s an open supporter of their genocide, anybody that condones and celebrates the murder of 14,000 children deserve all the criticism and ridicule they receive

[Crimson Dynamo]

She’s an open supporter of their genocide, anybody that condones and celebrates the murder of 14,000 children deserve all the criticism and ridicule they receive

Go to bed Liam

This is about a song contest

Jesus wept

:umm2:

[Oliver_W]

anybody that condones and celebrates the murder of 14,000 children

When did she do that?

[Cherie]

When did she do that?

Never I expect ....

[Mystic Mock]

Is it bullying? Isreal should not even been there and there has been confirmed situations of the Isreali delegation bullying and harassing other contestants

I'm objecting to the treatment towards the singer.

If the Delegation is doing anything wrong then fair enough, but it doesn't appear to be bad enough to get the Police involved at least.

And I do agree with you that the Government of Israel is bad, just like Hamas are also bad, I think that just needs to be put out there, both groups are bad.

But I'll always say this, an individual shouldn't be being judged for what their country's Government is doing, and that's such a slippery slope to go down that so many people are looking for any excuse to justify being nasty towards a singer.

[Mystic Mock]

She’s an open supporter of their genocide, anybody that condones and celebrates the murder of 14,000 children deserve all the criticism and ridicule they receive

Do you believe that she'd be allowed to say otherwise?

And besides, even if she does support her country's actions, she will probably be emotionally thinking about October 7th for starters.

Plus a lot of people (and maybe she falls into this category,) are very patriotic towards their leaders, and don't want to believe the worst about them, there are a lot of people like that across the world, and they would support atrocities as well if it were their country committing the crime. But on many other topics they might be lovely people.

My point being that it doesn't necessarily make these people evil, and I certainly don't believe that justifies some people wanting to physically harm her.

[Mystic Mock]

When did she do that?

I'm going to think that he has at least heard about it from a reputable source tbf.

[Nicky91]

NPO and AVROTROS file an official complaint against Joost's disqualification, and want to bring the EBU to court

[Mystic Mock]

NPO and AVROTROS file an official complaint against Joost's disqualification, and want to bring the EBU to court

I am interested to hear their side of the story tbh.

[joeysteele]

Weren't the police called.
What did they do or say.

If he's not charged for anything yet, why should he be disqualified.
Surely security could ensure no further incidents, whatever this incident really was.

Or is this more about him showing some negativity to Israel.

As Mock says, it will be interesting to see what comes from this.

However, if nothing really comes from it at all.
Then his disqualification is wrong.
I actually think it was anyhow.
In the absence of even police recommending same.

The organisers have made an almighty mess of Eurovision this year.
It was wrong to remove a Nation voted in by the public to the finals from the final itself just a few days later.

The Netherland's should have been able to perform.
After all the hard work to get there.

[Vanessa]

Weren't the police called.
What did they do or say.

If he's not charged for anything yet, why should he be disqualified.
Surely security could ensure no further incidents, whatever this incident really was.

Or is this more about him showing some negativity to Israel.

As Mock says, it will be interesting to see what comes from this.

However, if nothing really comes from it at all.
Then his disqualification is wrong.
I actually think it was anyhow.
In the absence of even police recommending same.

The organisers have made an almighty mess of Eurovision this year.
It was wrong to remove a Nation voted in by the public to the finals from the final itself just a few days later.

The Netherland's should have been able to perform.
After all the hard work to get there.

I agree. There was no need to disqualify them. A warning would have been enough.
I hope Netherlands sue and win.

[Oliver_W]

I'm going to think that he has at least heard about it from a reputable source tbf.

Very charitable.

[Vanessa]

NPO and AVROTROS file an official complaint against Joost's disqualification, and want to bring the EBU to court
Good. I hope they win. There was no need to kick Netherlands out.

[bots]

with tensions already high, the last thing the organisers needed was someone stirring up trouble. They were absolutely right to take the action they did

[joeysteele]

I agree. There was no need to disqualify them. A warning would have been enough.
I hope Netherlands sue and win.

Exactly a warning would have been more appropriate.

Then any future incidents for more action.
Absolutely.

[Nicky91]

with tensions already high, the last thing the organisers needed was someone stirring up trouble. They were absolutely right to take the action they did

all thanks to Israel :idc:

[Nicky91]

us dutchies will have our revenge though


we will destroy the EBU through many lawsuits

[Nicky91]

https://wiwibloggs.com/2024/06/06/dutch-broadcaster-avrotros-calling-for-an-independent-investigation-and-structural-adjustments-at-eurovision/281891/

Netherlands threatening with withdrawal from the 2025 contest, and keeps defending Joost

[user104658]

The whole thing was an absolute mess this year. Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed it, but hey... I enjoy a mess :shrug:. It definitely had a very different feel to usual though.

[Nicky91]

and if Netherlands withdraw, participation fee will go up massively for other countries, so expect more withdrawals next year ;)


maybe only 20 competing countries or something :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

The whole thing was an absolute mess this year. Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed it, but hey... I enjoy a mess :shrug:. It definitely had a very different feel to usual though.

Anymore years like this last one, and it could end up being the end of Eurovision.

There was far too much negativity surrounding the Show, which is always the start of a Show on the decline.

[Nicky91]

Anymore years like this last one, and it could end up being the end of Eurovision.

There was far too much negativity surrounding the Show, which is always the start of a Show on the decline.

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i wouldn't mind it, no longer about music anyway, since the younger generations have ruined it

[Mystic Mock]

Very charitable.

I mean I doubt that Liam is wrong anyway, given how horrible some people were to her during a singing contest.

[Mystic Mock]

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i wouldn't mind it, no longer about music anyway, since the younger generations have ruined it

The Show just needs to fix three things, and I think that it'll be fine.

1. The people running Eurovision and the voters need to not make Politics the main aspect of the Show, it literally dominated this last series and it ruined the enjoyment of the competition for me, because everything ended up being about Israel. And obviously some of the voters and contestants that were trying to get her removed, and then throwing their toys out of the pram when it failed was absolutely pathetic imo.

There's nothing wrong with protesting against Israel by not voting for them/or supporting them, but trying to isolate a contestant because she happens to be from a country that's not popular due to stuff that Netanyahu has done, is not only unfair to her, but also incredibly cruel, especially when some of these people liked to act all self-righteous and moral, yet they can't even be civil about a girl in a singing contest.

2. I don't feel comfortable with winners happening that aren't even in the top four of the public vote, regardless of what I personally think of the song.

It's basically a waste of time people voting if someone who is in 5th Place in the public vote ends up being the winner.

It'd be like Tottenham being called the Premier League champions in this season just gone on the Football.

3. The zany costumes need to be dialled back a little bit, because nowadays the Show (and a lot of the audience tbf) do seem to think (and I'm going to be blunt when I say this) that the only way to be good is to dress like a freak.

For example the Latvia song didn't need the singer to dress like whatever the **** he was trying to look like, it was a normal ballad with a good vocalist singing the song, that's all it needed to stay as imo, but Eurovision couldn't resist, so they made him dress up like a weirdo.

There are other examples that I can think of in this series, but I get that it might be a touchy subject in some cases.

And just to clarify, no I am not on about Olly.

[Nicky91]

The Show just needs to fix three things, and I think that it'll be fine.

1. The people running Eurovision and the voters need to not make Politics the main aspect of the Show, it literally dominated this last series and it ruined the enjoyment of the competition for me, because everything ended up being about Israel. And obviously some of the voters and contestants that were trying to get her removed, and then throwing their toys out of the pram when it failed was absolutely pathetic imo.

There's nothing wrong with protesting against Israel by not voting for them/or supporting them, but trying to isolate a contestant because she happens to be from a country that's not popular due to stuff that Netanyahu has done, is not only unfair to her, but also incredibly cruel, especially when some of these people liked to act all self-righteous and moral, yet they can't even be civil about a girl in a singing contest.

2. I don't feel comfortable with winners happening that aren't even in the top four of the public vote, regardless of what I personally think of the song.

It's basically a waste of time people voting if someone who is in 5th Place in the public vote ends up being the winner.

It'd be like Tottenham being called the Premier League champions in this season just gone on the Football.

3. The zany costumes need to be dialled back a little bit, because nowadays the Show (and a lot of the audience tbf) do seem to think (and I'm going to be blunt when I say this) that the only way to be good is to dress like a freak.

For example the Latvia song didn't need the singer to dress like whatever the **** he was trying to look like, it was a normal ballad with a good vocalist singing the song, that's all it needed to stay as imo, but Eurovision couldn't resist, so they made him dress up like a weirdo.

There are other examples that I can think of in this series, but I get that it might be a touchy subject in some cases.

And just to clarify, no I am not on about Olly.

Latvia singer looked normal though?


he also wore that outfit in their national selection

[Nicky91]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gep5qzlxeo


wouldn't be surprised if arrogant turds of AVROTROS broadcaster have bribed swedish authorities :idc:




Withdraw for good pls, turd Netherlands :idc:

[Nicky91]

no wonder women have it tough these days still, victims of physical and verbal abuse, if abusers get constantly defended and declared innocent :idc:


shame on you AVROTROS for being too high up Joost Klein's arse :yuk:

[Nicky91]

Start a defamation case against the EBU

Joost Klein is no longer being prosecuted in Sweden for threats. After all, the Swedish Public Prosecution Service considers insufficient or no evidence for such prosecution after an investigation. Nevertheless, the EBU (European Broadcasting Union) as the organising body of the Song Contest stands by its decision to disqualify Klein. Apologies were also not forthcoming.

According to the EBU, the Public Prosecution Service's decision to drop the case does not detract from the fact that, according to the EBU, Klein allegedly acted in violation of EBU rules. His disqualification was therefore justified according to the EBU. Unfortunately, it is not stated which rule was violated that justifies such a draconian punishment as disqualification.

Continuing to maintain the publicly stated view that Joost Klein allegedly committed a disqualifying act is without a doubt a defamatory accusation. He who deliberately attacks someone's honour or good name by accusing them of a certain fact with the apparent aim of publicising it, commits the criminal offence of defamation. AvroTros could therefore file a lawsuit of defamation against the EBU.

Especially since the consequence of the disqualification has also manifested itself in the Netherlands and the Netherlands can therefore be regarded as the place where the crime of defamation was committed.

Gerard Spong, Amsterdam


https://i.imgur.com/C0QAdSO.jpeg

:idc:

expel Netherlands indefinitely from eurovision please

[Oliver_W]

no wonder women have it tough these days still, victims of physical and verbal abuse, if abusers get constantly defended and declared innocent :idc:

It took an Israeli singer being abused for you to realise this?

[Mystic Mock]

It took an Israeli singer being abused for you to realise this?

:laugh:

Nicky thinks in a different way to the rest of us, but he normally comes good in the end.:dance:

[Nicky91]

It took an Israeli singer being abused for you to realise this?

nothing to do with Israel, this drama though


Joost didn't physically hit the swedish camerawomen, but he did knock the camera out of her hand, damaging camera equipment is also a form of assault honestly


but they go ahead, sue the EBU, well we'll soon be cheering on their indefinite ban from the contest then, and their revoked membership from the EBU entirely :fan:

[Nicky91]

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i swear if deluded Netherlands participate with Borderline Boy again, i'll...


:yuk: :yuk: :yuk: we don't need generic basic fastfood trash like europapa and the rest of his ''music'' he needs his career retired asap