View Full Version : Salford teacher has sex with pupil whilst on bail for having sex with other pupil.
And got pregnant by 2nd pupil.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4n113lnp2go
Our justice system and sentencing is not fit for purpose !!
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Liam-
14-05-2024, 10:05 AM
Will still only get a slap on the wrist
Crimson Dynamo
14-05-2024, 10:09 AM
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Will still only get a slap on the wrist
If that
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Livia
14-05-2024, 10:12 AM
I fail to see what a grown woman would see in 15 and 16 year old boys. Takes all sorts I suppose. She needs her head read before they lock her up.
350 quid Gucci belt, on a teachers salary!!
I'd sew her vagina shut if I had my way.
arista
14-05-2024, 10:50 AM
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Pediphile
Gusto Brunt
14-05-2024, 10:56 AM
A revolting waste of space.
Nothing more than a wh***.
Disgusting.
arista
17-05-2024, 01:40 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/17/14/85004541-0-image-m-34_1715952775042.jpg
arista
17-05-2024, 01:43 PM
[Maths teacher, 30, given the nickname
'Bunda Becky' by male pupils is found
GUILTY of having sex with two students - after
trying to blame illegal relationships on everything
from being lonely during Covid
to them 'controlling' her]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13425577/Maths-teacher-Bunda-Becky-guilty-sex-15-year-old-students.html
Terrible woman
Oliver_W
17-05-2024, 01:51 PM
Rape.
It was rape.
Crimson Dynamo
17-05-2024, 01:55 PM
Rape.
It was rape.
I think I read the lad saying that anyone his pals would have done the same
i know it's illegal, but when i was at school, there wouldn't be a boy in class that wasn't 100% jealous
I think I read the lad saying that anyone his pals would have done the same
Well it’s clear that she’s a very good looking lady who has some serious issues / problems.
She could have any ( adult) guy she wanted so why she made those choices is anyone’s guess - should make an interesting case
It will be interesting if she gets a jail sentence or a rap across the knuckles .
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AnnieK
17-05-2024, 02:19 PM
She has been bailed before sentencing but the judge has told her to be very aware of being locked up at the next hearing.
Crimson Dynamo
17-05-2024, 02:20 PM
i know it's illegal, but when i was at school, there wouldn't be a boy in class that wasn't 100% jealous
Yep
arista
17-05-2024, 02:21 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/16/11/84952201-13425577-image-a-15_1715856818185.jpg
Her dad is protecting her
[Joynes was supported throughout the trial by
her business owner father Stuart.
Pictured: On Thursday as the jury were sent
out to begin deliberations]
Liam-
17-05-2024, 02:22 PM
i know it's illegal, but when i was at school, there wouldn't be a boy in class that wasn't 100% jealous
Well that’s because society has been conditioned to believe boys can’t be victims and women can’t be perpetrators of these crimes, I mean legally a woman still can’t rape someone because of the legal definition of rape
Crimson Dynamo
17-05-2024, 02:29 PM
Boy B went onto have sex with his teacher around 30 times over the next 18 months, he said, lying to his parents that he was going to watch football or meet friends.
However he claimed he would say to her: 'You're a weirdo, you need help. You're a nonce.
'You should go and find someone your own age, you are pretty enough.'
He told police Joynes gave him the 'shock' news that she was pregnant in June last year by leaving a 'trail of surprises' around her flat as part of a 'date night'.
They included rose petals and a sex games scratchcard – culminating in a 'baby grow' with 'I love my daddy' written on it.
Boy B claimed Joynes had told him she couldn't get pregnant because she had polycystic ovary syndrome.
'Now I think about it, it was emotional abuse,' he told police.
'She just basically mentally abused me. Then I sacrificed 18 months for a paedophile.'
user104658
17-05-2024, 03:16 PM
i know it's illegal, but when i was at school, there wouldn't be a boy in class that wasn't 100% jealous
They'd act like it and maybe even be jealous at the time because an 18 year old isn't capable of understanding what's actually going on - when they reach the age that their teacher was when they abused them, they start to realise what actually happened and are not so pleased about it.
My best mate was having regular sex with a woman in her 40's when we were 17/18. We all thought it was great/hilarious at the time. We all thought it was hilarious whenever we brought it up after that for well over a decade. We're nearing 40 ourselves now and - lo and behold - he's a bit conflicted about it now and realises that he was a kid who was being sexually exploited by a woman the same age as his mum. You grow up and realise it's actually not good at all.
And he was no an "inexperienced" kid he'd had sexual relationships with multiple girls our age, for a few years before that and did his share of, erm, fun nights out up until he met his now-wife when he was about 27. He's not a chap who is precious about sex or who regrets being promiscuous as a youngster. There's literally one relationship he feels gross about - and it's that one.
[edit to add] And that wasn't a teacher or anyone in a position of authority by the way, it was just a random woman, and he was over 16 so it was 100% legal. She had a son a year younger than us. It was a mess.
arista
17-05-2024, 05:10 PM
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arista
17-05-2024, 05:12 PM
[Sex predator maths teacher, 30,
is given one last chance before she is locked up
to see baby girl she had with schoolboy before
being taken away from her
24 hours after birth - as victim's family say
'it's the right verdict']
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13430999/sex-predator-maths-teacher-chance-girl-schoolboy-lover.html
Crimson Dynamo
17-05-2024, 05:19 PM
why on earth did she keep the baby?
GoldHeart
17-05-2024, 05:20 PM
Well that’s because society has been conditioned to believe boys can’t be victims and women can’t be perpetrators of these crimes, I mean legally a woman still can’t rape someone because of the legal definition of rape
Actually people DO believe boys can be victims but only when the abuser is also male. Except for the odd idiot macho person who mocks the victim of course.
But I agree that when a woman is abusing boys or adult men even , it's seen as some joke or not taken as seriously. Like the guy should just feel " lucky" somehow ,or have the power to not be on that situation in the first place. It's gross really .
Oliver_W
17-05-2024, 05:54 PM
why on earth did she keep the baby?
Some people aren't comfortable with killing babies? Or maybe she didn't know until it was too late?
She did a lot of things wrong, but preserving the life of a baby ain't one of them.
Crimson Dynamo
17-05-2024, 06:22 PM
Some people aren't comfortable with killing babies? Or maybe she didn't know until it was too late?
She did a lot of things wrong, but preserving the life of a baby ain't one of them.
Its cruel to bring a child into the world with those circumstances
and selfish
GoldHeart
17-05-2024, 06:31 PM
Its cruel to bring a child into the world with those circumstances
and selfish
It's not exactly the child's fault . Adoption would probably be the best thing.
Crimson Dynamo
17-05-2024, 06:37 PM
It's not exactly the child's fault . Adoption would probably be the best thing.
no one said it is but to bring a child into the world like that is selfish and cruel
every child needs a loving Mother and Father
It's not exactly the child's fault . Adoption would probably be the best thing.
As a mix raced child it will probably go through the care system for most of its miserable childhood.
Mystic Mock
17-05-2024, 08:48 PM
Rape.
It was rape.
One of them is 15 years old, so it's Paedophilia, which imo is worse.
Mystic Mock
17-05-2024, 09:00 PM
Actually people DO believe boys can be victims but only when the abuser is also male. Except for the odd idiot macho person who mocks the victim of course.
But I agree that when a woman is abusing boys or adult men even , it's seen as some joke or not taken as seriously. Like the guy should just feel " lucky" somehow ,or have the power to not be on that situation in the first place. It's gross really .
What is the crime stats on women sexually assaulting men/young boys?
GoldHeart
17-05-2024, 09:47 PM
What is the crime stats on women sexually assaulting men/young boys?
I don't know mock , considering it's probably less reported . Most female predators ( mainly the ones going after minors) usually prey on their neighbour's kid ,or they know them through friends, or something.
Predators in general abuse their position of trust ie teachers, mentors . Which makes it even worse.
The boy likely will feel embarrassed ,or he doesn't see it as abuse until he looks back on it and realises it's not normal. It doesn't help that it's laughed or shrugged off .
And I've noticed we keep seeing a few of these female predator teacher news stories now. And it sounds like this one is trying to make up excuses for her inappropriate behaviour.
anywhere there is a hub for men going after kids, there will be an equivalent where women are doing it. So it will be schools, childrens organisations etc etc
Why would you watch something like this, let alone re-post it?
Ain't that right MTVN?
Mystic Mock
18-05-2024, 04:10 AM
It's not exactly the child's fault . Adoption would probably be the best thing.
I agree on both points.
Mystic Mock
18-05-2024, 04:18 AM
I don't know mock , considering it's probably less reported . Most female predators ( mainly the ones going after minors) usually prey on their neighbour's kid ,or they know them through friends, or something.
Predators in general abuse their position of trust ie teachers, mentors . Which makes it even worse.
The boy likely will feel embarrassed ,or he doesn't see it as abuse until he looks back on it and realises it's not normal. It doesn't help that it's laughed or shrugged off .
And I've noticed we keep seeing a few of these female predator teacher news stories now. And it sounds like this one is trying to make up excuses for her inappropriate behaviour.
You make a lot of good points tbh.
I will also assume that women on women sexual assault cases aren't commonly reported either.
This is one of only a few stories that I could find on this type of scenario mAlPKQQ1RLU
…I don’t know what her sentence will be but her betrayal of trust and power is pretty horrific …for it to have happened once is awful, obviously…but then again while she was on bail…the choices she made had huge consequences, not least of all for her young victims…and I’m glad that justice is going some way to address those consequences…
Why would you watch something like this, let alone re-post it?
Ain't that right MTVN?
Don't be a snowflake
Niamh.
18-05-2024, 07:47 AM
The baby hat thing is a pretty gross play for sympathy. She shouldn't be allowed raise a child
smudgie
18-05-2024, 10:09 AM
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She should receive the same punishment that a male teacher would get under the same circumstances.
arista
18-05-2024, 10:11 AM
…I don’t know what her sentence will be but her betrayal of trust and power is pretty horrific …for it to have happened once is awful, obviously…but then again while she was on bail…the choices she made had huge consequences, not least of all for her young victims…and I’m glad that justice is going some way to address those consequences…
In July she will go to Jail.
So she is lucky to be free
on bail for now.
arista
18-05-2024, 10:12 AM
The baby hat thing is a pretty gross play for sympathy. She shouldn't be allowed raise a child
Grand Parents
are due to take care of the baby.
Crimson Dynamo
18-05-2024, 10:13 AM
2 years time she will be a presenter on Loose Women
arista
18-05-2024, 10:14 AM
2 years time she will be a presenter on Loose Women
I doubt that.
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She should receive the same punishment that a male teacher would get under the same circumstances.
…which sadly is very possibly also not reflective of the crimes, tbh….the judge has obviously indicated that it will be a prison sentence but as to the length of it…?…whether it be male/female serving, it has a tendency toward leniency and minimum time atm…
Crimson Dynamo
04-07-2024, 01:00 PM
6.5 years she got so out in 3
6.5 years she got so out in 3
Back working with kidz a few weeks after that ..
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Crimson Dynamo
04-07-2024, 01:15 PM
Video of her buying the lad a belt and her bing arrested here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13599757/rebecca-joynes-paedophile-maths-teacher-jailed-sex-schoolboys.html
Niamh.
04-07-2024, 01:16 PM
Back working with kidz a few weeks after that ..
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I doubt it :
Certain types of criminal records can preclude you from doing certain types of jobs. For example, any violent or sexual offence will mean you cannot work with children or vulnerable adults. This will mean that you cannot work in jobs such as doctor, nurse, teacher, or social worker.
https://www.youthemployment.org.uk/how-to-get-a-job-if-you-have-a-criminal-record/#:~:text=Certain%20types%20of%20criminal%20records ,%2C%20teacher%2C%20or%20social%20worker.
arista
04-07-2024, 01:32 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/04/12/86914545-13599757-Joynes_wore_a_black_jacket_over_her_head_as_she_wa s_guided_into_-a-3_1720094245393.jpg
[The former teacher wore a black jacket over
her head as she was guided into court
by her father, Stuart,
with the pair both carrying supermarket
bags for life filled with her possessions]
Crimson Dynamo
04-07-2024, 03:20 PM
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Sorry to be crude here but she's a good looking woman, and could easily get a shag and attention from men her own age. The stupidity is astounding
Crimson Dynamo
04-07-2024, 04:05 PM
Sorry to be crude here but she's a good looking woman, and could easily get a shag and attention from men her own age. The stupidity is astounding
I think its about control and danger
Oliver_W
04-07-2024, 04:56 PM
Sorry to be crude here but she's a good looking woman, and could easily get a shag and attention from men her own age. The stupidity is astounding
Paedos aren't interested in their own age.
GoldHeart
04-07-2024, 07:10 PM
Sorry to be crude here but she's a good looking woman, and could easily get a shag and attention from men her own age. The stupidity is astounding
Swan why do ' good-looking ' men abuse underage girls ? . They're not exactly normal in the head . Clearly they're perverted and they know they can control and use they're power, especially when they're in positions of ' trust '.
GoldHeart
04-07-2024, 07:11 PM
Paedos aren't interested in their own age.
Exactly
Swan why do ' good-looking ' men abuse underage girls ? . They're not exactly normal in the head . Clearly they're perverted and they know they can control and use they're power, especially when they're in positions of ' trust '.
I was more referring to her defence that she craved the attention after a break up or something. If that was the case, she could have got it from men her own age. I was just going on what she said. She's obviously a wrongen that's clear as day.
GoldHeart
04-07-2024, 07:49 PM
I was more referring to her defence that she craved the attention after a break up or something. If that was the case, she could have got it from men her own age. I was just going on what she said. She's obviously a wrongen that's clear as day.
Which just goes to show she's full of BS , she clearly predatory and probably saw the pupil as an easy target.
Wasn't there another story where again a female teacher groomed her male pupil,and she was married and the husband murdered them both when he found out.
UserSince2005
04-07-2024, 08:34 PM
Absolute sex kitten, what a disgrace.
Mystic Mock
04-07-2024, 11:57 PM
6.5 years she got so out in 3
I give it 18 months until she's back out on the streets.
Mystic Mock
05-07-2024, 12:00 AM
Sorry to be crude here but she's a good looking woman, and could easily get a shag and attention from men her own age. The stupidity is astounding
She's basically the Pedo version of Ted Bundy.
They may look good, but it doesn't mean that they actually are good people.
Mystic Mock
05-07-2024, 12:01 AM
I think its about control and danger
And I definitely agree with you LT that she liked the power that she had over her victims.
Glenn.
05-07-2024, 03:30 PM
no one said it is but to bring a child into the world like that is selfish and cruel
every child needs a loving Mother and Father
Or a mother and mother or father and father.
GoldHeart
05-07-2024, 03:53 PM
She's basically the Pedo version of Ted Bundy.
They may look good, but it doesn't mean that they actually are good people.
Exactly and look how 'charming' Bundy was around women/ his victim's. It's actually disturbing how manipulative people can be.
Or a mother and mother or father and father.
Just some children need that.
thesheriff443
05-07-2024, 04:55 PM
Most teenagers would shag a good looking teacher if they could so the idea that she had power over them is nonsense in my opinion
We are raised to believe that women are not predators but that they are the victims of men which they definitely are in nearly all cases
Most of these cases in which women sleep with teenagers it’s not the teenagers that go to the police it’s their mothers and fathers or it gets out in the open through gossip and then the police get involved
I often masturbated about my teachers, and would have been straight in if given the chance.
But that was when I was young, now I see it as dirty.
I also have a very foggy memory.
Mystic Mock
06-07-2024, 12:18 AM
Exactly and look how 'charming' Bundy was around women/ his victim's. It's actually disturbing how manipulative people can be.
Exactly.
It's always best to be paranoid around strangers to some extent.
Mystic Mock
06-07-2024, 12:21 AM
I often masturbated about my teachers, and would have been straight in if given the chance.
But that was when I was young, now I see it as dirty.
I also have a very foggy memory.
Tbf there is nothing wrong with a child having a crush on a Teacher, if anything it's a learning process for us all on how to conduct yourself when you're feeling that way at that age.
Obviously it is wrong for a Teacher to abuse their position by acting on the child's crush.
GoldHeart
06-07-2024, 12:30 AM
I often masturbated about my teachers, and would have been straight in if given the chance.
But that was when I was young, now I see it as dirty.
I also have a very foggy memory.
TMI
Plus having a crush on your teacher is normal and this goes for the same if a school girl has a crush on her male teacher .
At the end of the day the child is still the child and the teacher is still the adult. A kid or teenager isn't going to have the same mindset and morals especially if they're being groomed and manipulated . Whereas as a grown adult you realise it's gross & wrong. And basically the adult should always know better and never cross that line.
I think this lad will grow up messed up and feel used.
Glenn.
06-07-2024, 12:16 PM
Just some children need that.
Any child really. The notion that a child NEEDS a mother AND father to function properly is absurd
Crimson Dynamo
06-07-2024, 12:19 PM
Any child really. The notion that a child NEEDS a mother AND father to function properly is absurd
It gives the child the best opportunity to thrive, every child deserves a Mother and a Father to bring them up.
Everyone knows and accepts this fact
Glenn.
06-07-2024, 12:21 PM
It gives the child the best opportunity to thrive, every child deserves a Mother and a Father to bring them up.
Everyone knows and accepts this fact
We’ll agree to disagree on this one. I can see you’re trying to troll.
Crimson Dynamo
06-07-2024, 12:47 PM
We’ll agree to disagree on this one. I can see you’re trying to troll.
You brought it up and asked me a question and I answered
I think you need to look up the definition for the word troll because you clearly don't understand it
I may also remind you that making personal insults to members is against the rules
Oliver_W
06-07-2024, 12:53 PM
Most teenagers would shag a good looking teacher if they could so the idea that she had power over them is nonsense in my opinion
Teenagers aren't yet mentally developed, they're almost all vulnerable to manipulative predators.
Women can experience the physiological responses associated with arousal and orgasm during rape, but that doesn't mean they enjoyed or wanted the rape.
A teenage boy might get aroused and respond to a predator, but that doesn't make it okay.
You wouldn't be okay with someone tricking an elderly person into signing their will over to them. So why would you be okay with statutory rape?
It gives the child the best opportunity to thrive, every child deserves a Mother and a Father to bring them up.
Everyone knows and accepts this fact
The best, yes. Not the only good or valid way.
Glenn.
06-07-2024, 01:24 PM
Lots of single parents out there. Some kiddies who have had a parent die and they do fine. It’s only when same sex parents are involved that a mother and father are best.
The Slim Reaper
06-07-2024, 01:28 PM
I often masturbated about my teachers, and would have been straight in if given the chance.
But that was when I was young, now I see it as dirty.
I also have a very foggy memory.
Mr Johnson, the geography teacher?
Mr Johnson, the geography teacher?
Miss Lawrie, french.
GoldHeart
06-07-2024, 01:53 PM
Teenagers aren't yet mentally developed, they're almost all vulnerable to manipulative predators.
Women can experience the physiological responses associated with arousal and orgasm during rape, but that doesn't mean they enjoyed or wanted the rape.
A teenage boy might get aroused and respond to a predator, but that doesn't make it okay.
You wouldn't be okay with someone tricking an elderly person into signing their will over to them. So why would you be okay with statutory rape?
The best, yes. Not the only good or valid way.
Exactly
I don't know why people forget the teen / child isn't fully developed yet mentally when it comes to a predatory woman and male kid .
As the other examples you mentioned .... is still taking advantage of someone. And it's still wrong.
thesheriff443
06-07-2024, 02:27 PM
The problem is most can only see it one one
A 14 year old kills somebody and they know what they are doing and are fully responsible
If a 14 year old sleeps with his teacher he knows what he is doing and is responsible
If a 14 year old rapes a woman he know it’s illegal and is responsible for his actions
Same age but different way round gives people a different perspective
14 year olds are having sex with other 14 year old they are responsible for their actions
Oliver_W
06-07-2024, 02:38 PM
The problem is most can only see it one one
A 14 year old kills somebody and they know what they are doing and are fully responsible
If a 14 year old sleeps with his teacher he knows what he is doing and is responsible
If a 14 year old rapes a woman he know it’s illegal and is responsible for his actions
Same age but different way round gives people a different perspective
14 year olds are having sex with other 14 year old they are responsible for their actions
Adult women can also be victims of rape, and commit murder.
GoldHeart
06-07-2024, 02:41 PM
It's a weird set of double standards
That's like when some people think teenage girls who giggle around an older man are somehow encouraging his inappropriate attention. And just because they may dress a certain way.
Like I said the adult is still an adult and should know better.
Some of these teenage boys & girls might even think the predator cares about them, that's what grooming does .
GoldHeart
06-07-2024, 02:41 PM
Adult women can also be victims of rape, and commit murder.
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Mystic Mock
06-07-2024, 11:50 PM
Miss Lawrie, french.
Salut!
Crimson Dynamo
09-07-2024, 06:34 PM
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