Seriously thinking of voting for the Reform party.

[Kate!]

As an alternative to Labour I'm coming round to the idea of voting for Reform.

I like what they have to say.

(Postal vote)

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOGDBy_XEAASDSk?format=jpg&name=small

[Cherie]

okay but they are just slogans, how are they going to achieve these aims?

[Crimson Dynamo]

okay but they are just slogans, how are they going to achieve these aims?

:nono:

that's not how politics works

[Livia]

I'm voting Reform. They can't do any worse... And I can't bring myself to vote for any of the others.

[joeysteele]

You must always vote where you believe some, most or all your own beliefs lie.
It's good anyone thinks seriously about their votes Kate

Me personally, I'd never trust Reform on the NHS, they are way too right wing for myself, hence why disaffected Cons are more likely switching to them.
Plus on immigration, Reform are further away from my own personal views than even the Cons are.
I hate any Pary having rhetoric of people as just numbers and not living beings

This is a hard election and choice for hoards of voters however.
A lot of voters feeling politically homeless in fact.

Even a few of my cousins who are more extreme right wing as to politics,are voting Reform this time over Conservative.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform UK Policy Documents

Our Contract With You


https://www.reformparty.uk/our-contract-contents

[bots]

i think people should forget about political party's and vote for the local mp that you think is the most honest and has the most integrity.

This is the only way to remove slime balls from politics and it also means the party that wins is the party with the most integrity.

I have no idea why people don't vote this way by default rather than being tribal

[Crimson Dynamo]

And they want PR so ideal for Joey to vote for

[joeysteele]

And they want PR so ideal for Joey to vote for

That's the only policy I like about them.
I'd never ever vote Reform however.

However it will come from Labour, Labour MPs, members like myself, the Unions and Labour voters now mostly want PR.
I'm pretty convinced it will be in the manifesto in the election after this one.
The Lib Dems want PR too.
The Greens, SNP, Plaid Cymru and every Northern Irish Party want PR as well as Reform.

Reform can get 15% in elections yet not win seats other than perhaps one or 2.

PR can only ever come from when a main Party proposes it.
The Cons never ever will.

It's been overwhelmingly passed at 2 Labour conferences now.
Starmer says it's not a policy he's putting in the manifesto for THIS election but I'm pretty confident he'll have it in the next election's manifesto.

Yes though, I rigidly now support PR.

[MTVN]

Have a look at the Social Democratic party if you want an alternative to Labour which isn't just full of wealthy people who want to shrink the state. They have a fair number of old Labour supporters in the party

[Glenn.]

Just had a look at the manifesto and would follow floridas Don’t Say Gay bill that allows teachers to out students. No thank you

“ Inform parents of under 16s about their children’s life decisions.”

[Glenn.]

Let’s be honest if a teacher has to tell you about your own child then you’re a piss poor parent.

No one has the right or place to out anybody and if you believe they should then you’re an awful person

[Alf]

You'll get what you're given. Whoever wins are put in place and will work for the globalists and not for us.

The only election that matters this year is Trump vs the globalists.

[Zizu]

okay but they are just slogans, how are they going to achieve these aims?


Who cares ..
:)

The other parties never follow through on anything they promise anyway


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Who cares ..
:)

The other parties never follow through on anything they promise anyway


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Bang on

[The Slim Reaper]

Go green Kate, don't turn to the dark side :fist:

[arista]

Go green Kate, don't turn to the dark side :fist:

No Greens have Terrorists in their group

[The Slim Reaper]

No Greens have Terrorists in their group

Don't be silly.

[arista]

Don't be silly.

Did you not see the Green Party win
it was an Extreme Muslim group?

[bots]

beware the broccoli .... evil to the core

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[Oliver_W]

I'm leaning towards a spoiled ballot tbh.

[The Slim Reaper]

Did you not see the Green Party win
it was an Extreme Muslim group?

Yes, I'm sure.

This is the same playbook they' try using against anyone in favour of justice for all. Every one is a terrorist or an anti Semite.

After they successfully did this to Corbyn, they think they can drag the same playbook out against anyone remotely progressive, but Gaza has opened a lot of eyes to the false smears, so it won't work as well this time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, I'm sure.

This is the same playbook they' try using against anyone in favour of justice for all. Every one is a terrorist or an anti Semite.

After they successfully did this to Corbyn, they think they can drag the same playbook out against anyone remotely progressive, but Gaza has opened a lot of eyes to the false smears, so it won't work as well this time.

:joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

:joker:

Would you care to reply? Go for it, you might surprise yourself :blush:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Would you care to reply? Go for it, you might surprise yourself :blush:

I already did

[Glenn.]

He doesn’t know how

[The Slim Reaper]

I already did

Aah ok. I should have known, but never let it be said I'm not an optimist :laugh:

[Cherie]

Who cares ..
:)

The other parties never follow through on anything they promise anyway


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er I never said they did? which was kinda my point....

[Cherie]

Let’s be honest if a teacher has to tell you about your own child then you’re a piss poor parent.

No one has the right or place to out anybody and if you believe they should then you’re an awful person

You would know all about parenting...you are a parent?

[Cherie]

jeez Kate dont go green, they think women have penises

[joeysteele]

Aw Kate you must be even more confused after this thread.

Stick all the names of the different Parties standing in your constituency, ( preferably leaving the Cons out though), in a cup or hat and pick one out.

Unless you've managed to securely satisfy yourself on Reform.
Good luck.

[Glenn.]

You would know all about parenting...you are a parent?

You don’t have to be a parent to know how to support and love a child. Quite embarrassing on you that you’ve tried that angle.

Stand by what I said, a teacher doesn’t and should not have the right to out a child to their parents. If you think they do then you’re an awful person. Simple as really.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes, I'm sure.

This is the same playbook they' try using against anyone in favour of justice for all. Every one is a terrorist or an anti Semite.

After they successfully did this to Corbyn, they think they can drag the same playbook out against anyone remotely progressive, but Gaza has opened a lot of eyes to the false smears, so it won't work as well this time.

Don't forget that some of the right do love to accuse the left of "grooming" kids, even if there's no evidence of any wrongdoing in that particular area.

Obviously Arista hasn't said that, but I have noticed that some of the right like to play the "think of the children" card.

[Redrose]

Just had a look at the manifesto and would follow floridas Don’t Say Gay bill that allows teachers to out students. No thank you

“ Inform parents of under 16s about their children’s life decisions.”

George Galloway's far left party made derogatory remarks about gay people as well. The far left support homophobic terrorist organisations like hamas. Who killed their commander Mahmoud Ishtiwi for being homosexual. You cant just accuse the right or conservatives of hating gays.

[Glenn.]

Where did I say they hated gays? I said no one should have the right to out anyone

[Mystic Mock]

George Galloway's far left party made derogatory remarks about gay people as well. The far left support homophobic terrorist organisations like hamas. Who killed their commander Mahmoud Ishtiwi for being homosexual. You cant just accuse the right or conservatives of hating gays.

Hardcore Religious groups (Hamas being one of them) do tend to be Homophobic.

[Ammi]

…it’s your vote, Kate…and you must vote for whoever you feel is where you want to place your vote…let it come from you, though…and not be influenced by the views or thoughts of others etc…everyone has their own vote to focus on…

[smudgie]

i think people should forget about political party's and vote for the local mp that you think is the most honest and has the most integrity.

This is the only way to remove slime balls from politics and it also means the party that wins is the party with the most integrity.

I have no idea why people don't vote this way by default rather than being tribal

Yes, start with what you know for us.

[Mystic Mock]

…it’s your vote, Kate…and you must vote for whoever you feel is where you want to place your vote…let it come from you, though…and not be influenced by the views or thoughts of others etc…everyone has their own vote to focus on…

Exactly.

[user104658]

I think this thread had more posts at one point :think: weird maybe I'm mistaken.

[bots]

reform are an even more extreme version of ukip. If people really want to veer toward Trump type politics in the UK then reform is their best choice.

Wave goodbye to any form of democracy

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think this thread had more posts at one point :think: weird maybe I'm mistaken.

All of Smudgies posts were removed late last night. She went on a rant about multiculturalism and Tony Blair and George Soros - got very nasty very quickly.

At one point she claimed that many Eastenders scripts were written by an elite Jewish Cabal based in California and that Barry (off of Eastenders) had a tattoo on his buttocks that said "Zionism will win"

She did say she had been drinking cooking sherry from like 6 am (again?

:skull:

[Kate!]

I've made some headway with my decision. I'm definitely going to vote (was going to abstain originally) but 100% NOT for Tory or Labour parties.

I've voted Labour all my life but Keir Starmers policies go against the grain for me and I don't want him in power.

So I'm still considering which way to go.

[joeysteele]

reform are an even more extreme version of ukip. If people really want to veer toward Trump type politics in the UK then reform is their best choice.

Wave goodbye to any form of democracy

I more agree here.

UKIP, I quite liked some of their social policies.
However on Europe, the NHS and immigration.
I could never have looked at UKIP.

Reform however I think you describe them correctly.
An even more extreme version of UKIP.

I'm afraid I like more justice, fairness, compromise and compassion in my politics.
Which is why I am where I am politically.

I want this rotten government out, so until we've got PR in elections.
There's only one certain way to get them out.
I hope it happens.

[Oliver_W]

You don’t have to be a parent to know how to support and love a child. Quite embarrassing on you that you’ve tried that angle.

Stand by what I said, a teacher doesn’t and should not have the right to out a child to their parents. If you think they do then you’re an awful person. Simple as really.

It's not really that simple. There are cases where it's implicitly inevitable.

Here's something that happened in a school I was working at; I didn't directly work with either child, so it had nothing to do with me. So thankfully I didn't need to be involved too much.

But there were two lads who were ... not exactly "going out", but both liked each other. They were planning a sleepover, and in the circumstances it was a safeguarding issue, due to age of consent.

If they were a boy and a girl, the school would immediately tell both sets of parents, almost automatically. But of only one was out to his family, which murkied the waters a bit.

[Cherie]

You don’t have to be a parent to know how to support and love a child. Quite embarrassing on you that you’ve tried that angle.

Stand by what I said, a teacher doesn’t and should not have the right to out a child to their parents. If you think they do then you’re an awful person. Simple as really.

Its not an embarrassing angle at all, you will never have the responsibility and all that that entails the good and the bad until you are a parent, its very easy to parent someone elses child ....bit like back seat drivers

[smudgie]

All of Smudgies posts were removed late last night. She went on a rant about multiculturalism and Tony Blair and George Soros - got very nasty very quickly.

At one point she claimed that many Eastenders scripts were written by an elite Jewish Cabal based in California and that Barry (off of Eastenders) had a tattoo on his buttocks that said "Zionism will win"

She did say she had been drinking cooking sherry from like 6 am (again?

:skull:

Shhhhhhhh, what is said in a tipsy sherry state should never be repeated.:fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Shhhhhhhh, what is said in a tipsy sherry state should never be repeated.:fist:

:omgno:

[rusticgal]

It's not really that simple. There are cases where it's implicitly inevitable.

Here's something that happened in a school I was working at; I didn't directly work with either child, so it had nothing to do with me. So thankfully I didn't need to be involved too much.

But there were two lads who were ... not exactly "going out", but both liked each other. They were planning a sleepover, and in the circumstances it was a safeguarding issue, due to age of consent.

If they were a boy and a girl, the school would immediately tell both sets of parents, almost automatically. But of only one was out to his family, which murkied the waters a bit.


Great post and spot on Oliver…

[Mystic Mock]

reform are an even more extreme version of ukip. If people really want to veer toward Trump type politics in the UK then reform is their best choice.

Wave goodbye to any form of democracy

But we could have our own January 6th moment.:flutter:

I'm sorry, I couldn't help but be a bit of a morbid ****.:laugh:

[Kate!]

Anyway, I've decided to definitely vote Reform. I can't vote for Keir's policies, I don't agree with his stances on things.

[arista]

Just Live on SkyNewsHD

Conservative Lucy Allan is supporting a Reform UK Alan Adams

[I am supporting Alan Adams to be Telford’s next MP.
If you want to help Alan or donate
to his campaign, sign up on his website http://alanadams.co.uk]

Her tweet
https://x.com/lucyallan/status/1795110435655463196


She is The MP for Telford
https://members.parliament.uk/member/4411/contact

[MTVN]

Anyway, I've decided to definitely vote Reform. I can't vote for Keir's policies, I don't agree with his stances on things.

Which things in particular?

[arista]

Lucy Allan MP
now suspended from the Conservative Party

[Kate!]

Which things in particular?

Mainly Immigration and this National Service nonsense. I'm not incredibly politically minded but I know I don't agree with those.

[Glenn.]

As far as I’m aware Kier Starmer hasn’t said anything about National Service apart from calling it a desperate moves for Sunak…

[Kate!]

Mainly Immigration and this National Service nonsense. I'm not incredibly politically minded but I know I don't agree with those.

Oh, my error. I didn't fully answer the question correctly. National Service is of course a Conservative policy and on those grounds I wouldn't vote them either. Labour is mainly their immigration policies, as MTVN asked.

[bots]

Anyway, I've decided to definitely vote Reform. I can't vote for Keir's policies, I don't agree with his stances on things.

reform and labour are almost polar opposites in terms of political views. My advice would be to not vote rather than vote for a party because you have negative thoughts on others. If you really want to vote, then go listen to the candidates in your area and see which one makes the most sense individually, and vote for them. Then, at least, you are voting for positive reasons

[MTVN]

Oh, my error. I didn't fully answer the question correctly. National Service is of course a Conservative policy and on those grounds I wouldn't vote them either. Labour is mainly their immigration policies, as MTVN asked.

Would you like immigration to be restricted more then?

I do appreciate that's a big issue but it's a difficult one, it'll be interesting what Labour actually pledge to do in their manifesto about it

[bots]

Labour have commited to setting up an immigration task force, which is pretty meaningless given there are already trained staff in that role. That's what ive found a few times with labour, they call things by a different name and then try and re-spin it

[Kate!]

Would you like immigration to be restricted more then?

I do appreciate that's a big issue but it's a difficult one, it'll be interesting what Labour actually pledge to do in their manifesto about it

Yes I would. As far as I can see Keir is all for welcoming even more in than at present.

[Liam-]

Reform have no policies other than punishing immigrants, that’s the entire campaign, vote for us if you also don’t like immigrants, no plans, no ideas, just hatred

[MTVN]

Yes I would. As far as I can see Keir is all for welcoming even more in than at present.

Fair enough, I think Keir kind of gets it on migration but it'll probably just be more of the same under Labour

I would recommend again looking at the Social Democratic party. They want to restrict immigration but are more in line with traditional Labour values than Reform are

[Crimson Dynamo]

Fair enough, I think Keir kind of gets it on migration but it'll probably just be more of the same under Labour

I would recommend again looking at the Social Democratic party. They want to restrict immigration but are more in line with traditional Labour values than Reform are
Its traditional labour values that opened up the UK to mass immigration and the huge problems we have with the result. Millions of people who hate Britain and do not share our values all living here and still using all our services

[user104658]

Lol. Britain gonna Britain I guess.

[MTVN]

Its traditional labour values that opened up the UK to mass immigration and the huge problems we have with the result. Millions of people who hate Britain and do not share our values all living here and still using all our services

Those are more neoliberal and New Labour values imo

[joeysteele]

In 2010 the nett mmigration figures when Labour left power was 250,00 +

After 14 years of the Cons nett migration now is 680,000+

I can't see where Labour could make that worse.

However my view of immigration and although I do believe the boats need stopping..
However that's only around 25,000 coming in them.
An extremely tiny percentage as to the full nett immigration figures.

I however don't and never will see any people, immaterial of where they're from or even think of them as just numbers to be discarded.
They're Human beings with feelings, hopes and dreams like the rest of the human race.
I'd rather show some compassion than heartlessness or any measure of any likely prejudice.

[Beso]

As far as I’m aware Kier Starmer hasn’t said anything about National Service apart from calling it a desperate moves for Sunak…

The stupid **** mockingly called it a "teenage dads army" forgetting in the process he would be tarnishing the memories of all the fallen teenagers who helped keep out the nazis.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform have no policies other than punishing immigrants, that’s the entire campaign, vote for us if you also don’t like immigrants, no plans, no ideas, just hatred

do you like illegal immigrants breaking into the country?


presumably, you lock your car and your doors at night?

(I wont ask if you could house one as I am sure you would, but you just don't have the space :laugh2:)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform UK is making an important announcement live from Dover, with Nigel
Farage 10am today

NdnzlDZ12pk

[user104658]

The stupid **** mockingly called it a "teenage dads army" forgetting in the process he would be tarnishing the memories of all the fallen teenagers who helped keep out the nazis.

I don't think it's tarnishing the memory of the countless teenage boys killed in war, to point out that it's unfathomable that all throughout history, rich comfortable men have sent barely-trained children (not their own rich ones) into battle to die or come home maimed or traumatised.

As a society we are - or should be - past the point where our armies are stocked with anything but well-trained, paid, professional soldiers (and support) who have signed up of their own free will. Should we be very grateful to the people who had to go to war for us in the past? Absolutely we should, but it's NOT something to be celebrated, and not something we should ever be keen to repeat. Banal misty-eyed completely fake nostalgia for a time that never existed. It wasn't all stoicism and valiantly putting up a brave front, a lot of it was 18 year old kids, terrified out of their wits, desperate to just go home, and blown to pieces within a few days of putting their feet on the ground in Europe. Unimaginable horror. The idea is that those who came before us were somehow bigger, braver and better than the kids you see on the street today. The VERY SAD reality is that they were not. Kids have always just been kids.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Farage: We should declare national security emergency

Nigel Farage said of the illegal Channel crossings: “Frankly, I think this is very
dangerous.

“You only have to look at what’s happened in Sweden in cities like Malmo to
see that a large influx of young males coming from an entirely different
culture, and certainly coming from a culture in which women are not even
regarded as second-class citizens, has had frankly disastrous social effects.

“But since the events of Oct 7 and what has happened in Gaza, and increased
radicalisation in the Middle East, this is even more of a problem. You see,
these young men that come, and I’ve actually filmed this, people throwing
their iPhones into the sea, throwing their passports into the sea, doing
everything they can so we can’t track and identify them...

“I think this is a national security issue. Now if you think I’m being over the
top let’s think about our friend Donald Tusk... Very much an EU luvvie, now of
course the prime minister of Poland. He has talked about the wave of, and
I’m using his words not mine, aggressive young males that are coming into
Poland having crossed the Mediterranean and he has said that it’s a matter of
national security for Poland.

“What we ought to be doing here is declaring a national security emergency,
and this is an emergency.”

[Crimson Dynamo]

We are moving into age of sectarian politics that excludes women, says Farage

Nigel Farage said there is a “small but worryingly large growing number of
predominantly young men in this country, adopting radical views - views that are not
just un-British but views that are frankly increasingly anti-British”.

“You might have noticed that Angela Rayner yesterday was campaigning in her
constituency begging, begging a group of Muslim leaders to please vote Labour. You’ll
have noticed not a single woman in the room.

“So we’re moving into an age in our inner cities and towns I’m worried to say of
sectarian politics, with women completely excluded.”

[Crimson Dynamo]

Farage warns about risk of sectarian politics

Asked what he meant by British values, Mr Farage replied: “If you see the
victory celebrations for the local councillors from Burnley to Bradford to
elsewhere, no women. This is a new form... The idea that I’m saying this is
all British Muslims is absolute nonsense.

“I think the most concerned group, the most worried group, about what’s
going on with this new form of sectarianism is British Muslims who are
working, paying their taxes, wanting their kids to do well. It’s them that are
perhaps going to be the worst affected by this if this current unpleasant trend
continues.

“Of course there are social conservatives, but perhaps not quite to the same
degree... When 23 per cent of 18-to-24-year-olds say they support the
concept of jihad, I put it to you that that’s not exactly a British value. It’s
obvious to everyone that since Oct 7 there has been increased radicalisation
in this country. I never thought I’d speak to some friends who’ve got a Jewish
girl at a British university...

“She’s getting real abuse to the point of ‘do I really want to be part of this?’
So I think there are some pretty disturbing trends. I’m very concerned about
sectarian politics. We saw it in Northern Ireland, we’re starting to see it here.”

[user104658]

Nigel providing a masterclass in how to run a press conference and answer all questions

well worth a watch for those who missed it

I imagine it's a bit easier when one can just blether away and swing one's populist bollocks in people's faces and will never actually be in a government position, so don't have to do any sort of PR.

"And a free hat for everyone!!"

[user104658]

When 23 per cent of 18-to-24-year-olds say they support the
concept of jihad, I put it to you that that’s not exactly a British value.

By any other name it absolutely is in line with (Farage-style) British values. I think perhaps here the problem is that Farage doesn't actually know what "Jihad" means and thinks it's necessarily synonymous with religious war or terrorism. Or at least, he pretends such.

The real irony is that if there was a good translation to secular struggle, Farage's own political activity is nothing sort of Jihad. Scottish Nationalists, Corbynites, Tommy Robinson, Jordan Petersson... all conceptually engaging in secular "Jihad".

[Crimson Dynamo]

‘A slow motion D-Day in reverse’

“If 3,800 boats and 125,000 boats isn’t a sort of slow motion D-Day in reverse, I don’t
know what is,” Nigel Farage said.

“But if you don’t like the term, fine, but I predicted an invasion and I think we’ve seen
one.

“Sometimes in politics and national debate you’ve got to use words that make people
stop and think. All that I’ve ever tried to do is on Europe or this subject or debanking or
whatever it is, the thing I’ve been good at is to get people to debate things and to make
their own minds up.”

[user104658]

‘A slow motion D-Day in reverse’

“If 3,800 boats and 125,000 boats isn’t a sort of slow motion D-Day in reverse, I don’t
know what is,” Nigel Farage said.

“But if you don’t like the term, fine, but I predicted an invasion and I think we’ve seen
one.

“Sometimes in politics and national debate you’ve got to use words that make people
stop and think. All that I’ve ever tried to do is on Europe or this subject or debanking or
whatever it is, the thing I’ve been good at is to get people to debate things and to make
their own minds up.”

****ing hell it's borderline painful to imagine the sort of morons who fall for such blatant rhetoric. If you want to talk about disrespecting the young men who fought in WW2 look no further than this dumpster fire of a statement. Truly, truly offensive. People who SUPPOSEDLY "love Britain" will be slobbering all over it though. Slack-jawed yokels.

[Zizu]

****ing hell it's borderline painful to imagine the sort of morons who fall for such blatant rhetoric. If you want to talk about disrespecting the young men who fought in WW2 look no further than this dumpster fire of a statement. Truly, truly offensive. People who SUPPOSEDLY "love Britain" will be slobbering all over it though. Slack-jawed yokels.


Politicians / Politics = persuasive rhetoric


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[Crimson Dynamo]

What happened to impartiality
@Geetagurumurthy
and
@bbcpress
?

BBC News presenter, Geeta, just accused me (Nigel Farage) of ‘customary inflammatory language’
when I was quoting Polish PM Donald Tusk at a press conference.

https://x.com/TiceRichard/status/1795404271644766232

BBC not even listening to what was being said - the left-wing bias is astonishing

[Crimson Dynamo]

Now the BBC's Geeta Guru-Murthy apologises:

"When we came away from his live speech, I used language to describe it which didn't
meet the BBC's editorial standards on impartiality. I'd like to apologise to Mr Farage and
viewers for this."

-------------------

However, the original lie speaks volumes about where the BBC is really coming from....

[Beso]

It would be hilarious if it wasnt so serious...so that's paedophilia and the left they have bias towards...I'm going to start keeping a list.

[arista]

Now the BBC's Geeta Guru-Murthy apologises:

"When we came away from his live speech, I used language to describe it which didn't
meet the BBC's editorial standards on impartiality. I'd like to apologise to Mr Farage and
viewers for this."

-------------------

However, the original lie speaks volumes about where the BBC is really coming from....


Yes Good she said sorry,

It was shown on GBnewsHD

[bots]

we all know that people like Farage quote extremists to make a point. They think this gives them a free pass to say things, but it doesn't, because it is still them that are saying it

[arista]

1795354877339582648

[arista]

1795356018102141123

[Crimson Dynamo]

we all know that people like Farage quote extremists to make a point. They think this gives them a free pass to say things, but it doesn't, because it is still them that are saying it

he was quoting the former head of the EU and now PM of Poland Donald Tusk



jesus wept bots

:facepalm:

[DemRed]

Bloody hell, I know John Swales (standing for Harrogate)

[Kate!]

Bloody hell, I know John Swales (standing for Harrogate)


Any juicy gossip

[Mystic Mock]

We are moving into age of sectarian politics that excludes women, says Farage

Nigel Farage said there is a “small but worryingly large growing number of
predominantly young men in this country, adopting radical views - views that are not
just un-British but views that are frankly increasingly anti-British”.

“You might have noticed that Angela Rayner yesterday was campaigning in her
constituency begging, begging a group of Muslim leaders to please vote Labour. You’ll
have noticed not a single woman in the room.

“So we’re moving into an age in our inner cities and towns I’m worried to say of
sectarian politics, with women completely excluded.”

Farage actually has a point here, but I think that there's two groups causing the issue with anti-women rhetoric.

1. Radical Religious sub-groups (primarily from Muslim backgrounds, but also some from other Religious backgrounds too.)

And 2. The Incel ideology growing over the last few years due to Andrew Tate and the like, encouraging young men to hate all women.

[Mystic Mock]

It would be hilarious if it wasnt so serious...so that's paedophilia and the left they have bias towards...I'm going to start keeping a list.

That's because the BBC loves to control people, and there's nobody easier to control from an adult perspective than kids.