Politicians/campaigners you have changed your mind about.

[Kate!]

Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson.

My opinion has changed vastly for the better.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Starmer, a while ago i thought he was mostly harmless but now I see him as a dangerous snake in the grass going this way and that depending on where the wind of popularity blows

[Liam-]

Jesus wept

[joeysteele]

Very few I change my minds on except for liking them.more or liking them less.
Or not at all liking them.

For the Cons, I have warmed to Robert Largon.for one.

For Labour, Rachel Reeves actually irritates me now.
While I admired her before when Shadow Work and Pensions in Miliband's time as leader

The LibDems really now massively impressed with Layla Moran.

The Greens, always liked Caroline Lucas but now don't like at all Carla Denyer.

Nigel Farage, I dislike him.more now than during the EU referendum.
Richard Tice I cannot take to as well.

Both the new leaders of Plaid Cymru and SNP ( Stephen Flynn), I really don't like them at all now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jesus wept

Jesus I am pretty stable on

obviously if he comes back and there is the Rapture that would swing me more into the favorable in case I was cast into the fiery pit (with you)

[The Slim Reaper]

What's happened to you recently, Kate? Has anything happened IRL to have you switch your political views 180 degrees?

It's ok to be right wing if that's what you believe, but I'm just wondering if there has been an incident. Those 2 are not good people.

[Cherie]

I'm struggling to believe any of these politicians, they all make the right noises then never follow up, all power and money mad...

We have had one leaflet though the door...Labour, there are a few vote Labour signs up but apart from that you wouldn't think there was an election going on around here

[Crimson Dynamo]

What's happened to you recently, Kate? Has anything happened IRL to have you switch your political views 180 degrees?

It's ok to be right wing if that's what you believe, but I'm just wondering if there has been an incident. Those 2 are not good people.

that is not true both a fine people who are putting their neck on the line to make the UK better

Just because you don't like them does not mean that there must be some thing wrong with Kate

honestly, how arrogant can you be!

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm struggling to believe any of these politicians, they all make the right noises then never follow up, all power and money mad...

We have had one leaflet though the door...Labour, there are a few vote Labour signs up but apart from that you wouldn't think there was an election going on around here

I have had a Conservative leaflet but nothing else so far

[Cherie]

I was at my aunts yesterday in Wimbledon she had a Lib Dem leaftlet...maybe thats it :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

that is not true both a fine people who are putting their neck on the line to make the UK better

Just because you don't like them does not mean that there must be some thing wrong with Kate

honestly, how arrogant can you be!

I said it was ok to be right wing, but let's look at these 2.

Robinson was EDL, and there are loads of videos out there of him being directly and openly racist.

Farage is a coward. Doesn't run for office, just stands on the sidelines trying to dirty the discussion, and lied lots of the country into the single greatest act of self sabotage in modern history (brexit). and Was a known Nazi to his his teachers, famous for singing hitler youth songs to a Jewish classmate; he doesn't seem to have strayed too far away from those views, even using Nazi ideology in a famous brexit campaign poster.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with Kate, I asked whether something had happened to make her go from supporting tolerance, to supporting intolerance.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder if the SNP will have the brass neck to come round the doors! :laugh:

[user104658]

What's happened to you recently, Kate? Has anything happened IRL to have you switch your political views 180 degrees?

It's ok to be right wing if that's what you believe, but I'm just wondering if there has been an incident. Those 2 are not good people.

You get props on TiBB for outwardly expressing right-leaning views and there's no real opposition.

[Beso]

I like that racist, what's her name..abbot, yeah that's it, Diane Abbot..the IRA supporter. Love her now.

[The Slim Reaper]

You get props on TiBB for outwardly expressing right-leaning views and there's no real opposition.

Do you remember our discussion on the existence of a tibb hive mind/echo chamber?

[Redrose]

None of them. Why did you change your mind on those 2 grifters.

[smudgie]

Not really.
Our local lad is brilliant. Does loads for the area and out canvassing all the time.
Not too happy about the Labour Party candidate and how he was selected.

[bots]

that is not true both a fine people who are putting their neck on the line to make the UK better

Just because you don't like them does not mean that there must be some thing wrong with Kate

honestly, how arrogant can you be!

interesting choice of words. Identical to how Trump described similar types

[bots]

Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson.

My opinion has changed vastly for the better.

it's a democracy, so you are free to support any legal political entity, but i hope you do understand that they sit at the extreme end of british politics, and history has shown that extreme politics don't work out well for anyone

[Kate!]

I am not a racist. I have friends from other countries.

[Crimson Dynamo]

it's a democracy, so you are free to support any legal political entity, but i hope you do understand that they sit at the extreme end of british politics, and history has shown that extreme politics don't work out well for anyone

Nigel Farage is not extreme ffs :joker:

and can you tell me about all the successes of middle ground politics say in the last 30 or so years?

how is our education system, health sector and housing sector doing?

[Kate!]

I'm totally with LT on this.

[The Slim Reaper]

Nigel Farage is not extreme ffs :joker:

and can you tell me about all the successes of middle ground politics say in the last 30 or so years?

how is our education system, health sector and housing sector doing?

There are a couple of falacies in this post.

Firstly, there hasn't been any middle ground politics in the last 15 years, we've had a hard right ideological government. That said, the middle ground of politics is just protectionism for the centre-right, so it's also bit of a myth tbh.

Austerity and Brexit have destroyed the education and health sectors, and the housing sector is suffering because of the ideological enthralment to shifting wealth upwards at the expense of those at the bottom/in the middle,.

All things which Starmer has vowed to continue, under the guise of "tough choices."

[Beso]

Diane Abbott says very racist things, gets sent on a course...not racist anymore.


Tommy Robinson, once a racist always a racist.

I love the lefts way of thinking, not thinking.

[The Slim Reaper]

Diane Abbott says very racist things, gets sent on a course...not racist anymore.


Tommy Robinson, once a racist always a racist.

I love the lefts way of thinking, not thinking.

As you've tried this a couple of times now, let's play. What are the very racist things Diane has said?

[Glenn.]

I am not a racist. I have friends from other countries.

Then why are you endorsing racists?

[Beso]

As you've tried this a couple of times now, let's play. What are the very racist things Diane has said?

Just have a look at her wiki page, all the scandal is there.

[Glenn.]

wiki :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

28 posts so far

40% just having a go at Kate because "they" disapprove of the 2 people Kate chose

usual suspects

you know the ones who love to hurl about "echo chamber and hive mind" as an insult to others

you could not make it up

#irony

:joker:

[Cherie]

A hive mind

a notional entity consisting of a large number of people who share their knowledge or opinions with one another, regarded as producing either uncritical conformity or collective intelligence:
"he has become one of those celebrities whose online presence has made him a favourite of the internet hive mind" · "we appeal to the company hive mind when we're stuck"
(in science fiction) a unified consciousness or intelligence formed by a number of alien individuals, the resulting consciousness typically exerting control over its constituent members:
"there is a Borg Queen who controls the hive mind"

Arista is the Borg Queen I believe

[Beso]

wiki :joker:

Unless you've got her number then I'm all ears as to what you use to gain knowledge about someone.

[Glenn.]

Unless you've got her number then I'm all ears as to what you use to gain knowledge about someone.

Certainly not a website that ANYONE can edit I don’t that’s for sure.

[Beso]

Certainly not a website that ANYONE can edit I don’t that’s for sure.

What do you use then? I will copy and paste from there, instead of pointing slim towards wiki.

[The Slim Reaper]

28 posts so far

40% just having a go at Kate because "they" disapprove of the 2 people Kate chose

usual suspects

you know the ones who love to hurl about "echo chamber and hive mind" as an insult to others

you could not make it up

#irony

:joker:

Please quote the words I've used to "have a go at Kate." As for the rest, it seems my point has struck a bit of a nerve. No counter point, no nothing.

The echo is loud. I was referring back to a previous conversation I've had with SB on the forum. Funny how it wasn't considered an insult to members at the time, but hey ho.

Seems like someone is most definitely making it up :blush:

[Glenn.]

What do you use then? I will copy and paste from there, instead of pointing slim towards wiki.

You’re the one trying to prove a point… you do it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Just have a look at her wiki page, all the scandal is there.

You keep making the claim, so you should be well aware of what her comments are/were. You shouldn't have needed to run off to wiki for Back up. If you want to have the conversation (which I'm up for) then post the evidence.

[Beso]

Ms Abbott had served as a Labour MP since 1987, but was suspended from sitting in the parliamentary party in 2023 after she said Irish, Jewish and Traveller people were not subject to racism "all their lives". She withdrew her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused

[Beso]

During an interview in 2010, Ms Abbott, who represents Hackney North and Stoke Newington in London, said “West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children” when trying to justify her reason for sending her son to a private school.

Mr Neil, who was interviewing Ms Abbott at the time, responded by saying: “So black mums love their kids more than white mums, do they?” He suggested that Ms Abbott’s remark was racist, which she denied.


A lifelong socialist, Ms Abbott has criticised the private education system and in 2003 hit out at her colleague, Harriet Harman, for sending her son to a grammar school.

In a 2018 article for the Labour List website Ms Abbott wrote that socialism “cannot be elitist or sectoral”.

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In 2012 Ms Abbott sparked outrage among taxi drivers after suggesting they were racists.

In a message on Twitter, Ms Abbott wrote: “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

Steve McNamara, of the Licensed Taxi Drivers Association, described the comment as “at worst, racist and at best, stupid”.

“We find it amazing that in this day and age someone in Diane Abbott’s position can try to resurrect the stereotypes from the 1960s,” he said.

“At worst she is racist and at best she is stupid in making comments like that. Either way, she should go,” he added.

Car crash LBC interview

In 2017 Ms Abbott stumbled through an explanation of her party’s plan for an additional 10,000 police officers.

During an interview with LBC, the Shadow Home Secretary gave several estimates for how much the new officers would cost, ranging from £300,000 to £80m.

Ms Abbott was later forced to listen back to the excruciating interview when she appeared on the BBC.

Drinking a mojito on the London Overground

In 2019 Ms Abbott was forced to apologise after getting caught drinking alcohol on the London Overground network.

A photograph of the then shadow home secretary sipping an M&S canned mojito drink was published on The Sun’s website

Transport for London (TfL) introduced an alcohol ban on all public transport in the capital in 2008.

Ms Abbott said she was “sincerely sorry” for drinking the Marks and Spencer cocktail.

“A photo of me drinking from a can of M&S mojito on the Overground has been circulated,” the Labour frontbencher wrote on Twitter: “I’m sincerely sorry for drinking on TFL.”

One Twitter user quipped at the time: “Put it in a water bottle next time.”

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[The Slim Reaper]

Ms Abbott had served as a Labour MP since 1987, but was suspended from sitting in the parliamentary party in 2023 after she said Irish, Jewish and Traveller people were not subject to racism "all their lives". She withdrew her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused

That's the very racist thing she said?

Any context?

It was an insensitive comment, but I don't believe it was in any way racist.

David Baddiel's niece is a bi-racial Jewish woman, and here she is making exactly the same point.

1795731110036640163

Any other "very racist" comments you want to discuss?

[Niamh.]

Ms Abbott had served as a Labour MP since 1987, but was suspended from sitting in the parliamentary party in 2023 after she said Irish, Jewish and Traveller people were not subject to racism "all their lives". She withdrew her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused

Might be an ignorant comment but hardly racist

[The Slim Reaper]

During an interview in 2010, Ms Abbott, who represents Hackney North and Stoke Newington in London, said “West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children” when trying to justify her reason for sending her son to a private school.

Mr Neil, who was interviewing Ms Abbott at the time, responded by saying: “So black mums love their kids more than white mums, do they?” He suggested that Ms Abbott’s remark was racist, which she denied.


A lifelong socialist, Ms Abbott has criticised the private education system and in 2003 hit out at her colleague, Harriet Harman, for sending her son to a grammar school.

In a 2018 article for the Labour List website Ms Abbott wrote that socialism “cannot be elitist or sectoral”.

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In 2012 Ms Abbott sparked outrage among taxi drivers after suggesting they were racists.

In a message on Twitter, Ms Abbott wrote: “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

Steve McNamara, of the Licensed Taxi Drivers Association, described the comment as “at worst, racist and at best, stupid”.

“We find it amazing that in this day and age someone in Diane Abbott’s position can try to resurrect the stereotypes from the 1960s,” he said.

“At worst she is racist and at best she is stupid in making comments like that. Either way, she should go,” he added.

Car crash LBC interview

In 2017 Ms Abbott stumbled through an explanation of her party’s plan for an additional 10,000 police officers.

During an interview with LBC, the Shadow Home Secretary gave several estimates for how much the new officers would cost, ranging from £300,000 to £80m.

Ms Abbott was later forced to listen back to the excruciating interview when she appeared on the BBC.

Drinking a mojito on the London Overground

In 2019 Ms Abbott was forced to apologise after getting caught drinking alcohol on the London Overground network.

A photograph of the then shadow home secretary sipping an M&S canned mojito drink was published on The Sun’s website

Transport for London (TfL) introduced an alcohol ban on all public transport in the capital in 2008.

Ms Abbott said she was “sincerely sorry” for drinking the Marks and Spencer cocktail.

“A photo of me drinking from a can of M&S mojito on the Overground has been circulated,” the Labour frontbencher wrote on Twitter: “I’m sincerely sorry for drinking on TFL.”

One Twitter user quipped at the time: “Put it in a water bottle next time.”

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You ok?

[Beso]

You are wasting your time slim, I've just been infracted..so someones stirring ****, to report the bite backs...

Laters...

Ps, she is racist.

[Beso]

You ok?

That's why I dont post my proof.:hehe:

[The Slim Reaper]

You are wasting your time slim, I've just been infracted..so someones stirring ****, to report the bite backs...

Laters...

Ps, she is racist.

I don't know what you're on about. If you want to have the conversation you started, then I'm up for it, if you don't, then fair enough, but don't waste your time posting the same thing under all of my posts again.

[Kate!]

Then why are you endorsing racists?

I'm entitled to my opinion, I don't answer to you. You are entitled to yours. I don't believe them to be racists. If I did I wouldn't harbour them for a minute. I've listened to speeches by both Farage and Robinson and there were no sniffs of any racism. They are associated with a guy called Paul Thorpe who makes excellent youtube videos on the topic of illegal immigrants. Emphasis on illegal, rather than just immigrants.

Say what you like, it's wrong when they come here and get put up in hotels, given every benefit under the sun, plus mobile phones laptops and bicycles. It'll be cars next.

[Beso]

I don't know what you're on about. If you want to have the conversation you started, then I'm up for it, if you don't, then fair enough, but don't waste your time posting the same thing under all of my posts again.

Typical left, demand demand demand..


I will post whatever I want, wherever I want and whenever I want..dont like it! Well you know what you can do, dont you.

Shes a racist hag, backed by morons who forgive her racist rants because shes a leftie...****ing hypocrites.

[The Slim Reaper]

Typical left, demand demand demand..


I will post whatever I want, wherever I want and whenever I want..dont like it! Well you know what you can do, dont you.

Shes a racist hag, backed by morons who forgive her racist rants because shes a leftie...****ing hypocrites.

Why are you calling me a moron when we've had a civil discussion thus far? I honestly don't get you Parm. I haven't spoken out of turn towards you, so I don't appreciate it the other way. You still haven't provided any evidence of her even being racist or a racist hag, so get your own house in order.

[Glenn.]

https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/33839/syrian-refugee-boy-wins-case-against-uk-rightwing-personality-tommy-robinson

[Glenn.]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24346622.nigel-farage-slammed-racist-response-national-conscription/

[The Slim Reaper]

.

Robinson is a former member of the fascist British National Party (BNP) and co-founder of the English Defence League (EDL). Two instances last week hammered home his racist agenda.

A leaked video showed Robinson boasting about scoring drugs and proclaiming himself “king of the whole Islam race”.

It shows him refer to a taxi driver in Bologna, Italy, as a “little **** who drives a car”.

Banter

Robinson tried to dismiss this as “banter”—and protested that there are “multiple Asians, *multiple Asians” in the group chat. “This could have been so much worse … some of the banter that I’ve had in this group,” he said.

A Rape Crisis centre advertising help for black, Asian and minority ethnic women received abuse after a Facebook post by Robinson attacked their publicity last Friday. A spokesperson said that they had “significant volume of abusive phone calls, messages and emails, many of which are of an overtly racist nature”.

The Wycombe, Chiltern and South Buckinghamshire centre supports all victims of abuse. It also *provides a specialist service for black and Asian women who can face added barriers to accessing help.


The starred out bit is the shorter word for pakistani.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24346622.nigel-farage-slammed-racist-response-national-conscription/

the SNP newspaper The National


brilliant :joker:

[arista]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24346622.nigel-farage-slammed-racist-response-national-conscription/


He is a clever man

I do not view him as a racist - like you do.

[arista]

the SNP newspaper The National


brilliant :joker:


Of course LT
sad response from Glenn,

[Beso]

Why are you calling me a moron when we've had a civil discussion thus far? I honestly don't get you Parm. I haven't spoken out of turn towards you, so I don't appreciate it the other way. You still haven't provided any evidence of her even being racist or a racist hag, so get your own house in order.

How can I be calling you a moron when I dont even know your stance on her.:shrug:

[The Slim Reaper]

How can I be calling you a moron when I dont even know your stance on her.:shrug:

So you see me defending her, and then you blanketly describe everyone defending her as morons. It hardly took an intellectual leap to make the connection.

[Glenn.]

the SNP newspaper The National


brilliant :joker:

The source was his interview on Sky News. But I guess you didn’t know that because you didn’t read it and just proceeded to add a non response.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The source was his interview on Sky News. But I guess you didn’t know that because you didn’t read it and just proceeded to add a non response.

there is no source its just "opinion" from left wing people with an agenda

If indeed he was racist then action would have been taken under our current laws

guess what, it hasnt been because what he said was 100% correct

[Ammi]

…hmmmm, none I don’t think…I think that we often tend to ‘match’ our own values and beliefs etc with those whose views are the closest in terms of politicians…and that’s a fairly consistent thing, I think…

[Glenn.]

RACIST & XENOPHOBIC REMARKS
Farage said on LBC Radio in 2014: “I was asked if a group of Romanian men moved in next to you, would you be concerned? And if you lived in London, I think you would be”. Upon being asked whether he would object to living next door to German children, he replied “You know what the difference is”.
He claimed in 2014 that parts of Britain were “unrecognisable” and “like a foreign land”. He had also claimed he felt “awkward” when he heard people speaking other languages on the train.
When asked in a 2014 interview with Newsweek Europe who he thought should be allowed to come to the UK, he said: “People who do not have HIV, to be frank. That’s a good start. And people with a skill.” During the 2015 General Election campaign, he deployed misleading statistics about foreigners with HIV in a TV debate.
Farage unveiled his infamous Breaking Point poster in the lead up to the EU referendum, which was compared to Nazi propaganda. Farage refused to apologise for it.
During the Referendum Farage collaborated with Leave.EU, the unofficial Brexit campaign run by Farage’s longtime ally Arron Banks and co-founded by Brexit Party chairman Richard Tice, which relentlessly sought to link immigrants and Muslims to violence and societal decline. Both Farage and Tice have distanced themselves from Leave.EU since the Referendum, as multiple scandals have struck the outfit.
Farage is a well-known admirer of Enoch Powell, who is infamous for the “Rivers of Blood” speech. Farage asked Powell for his support in a by-election in 1994, and drove Powell to a UKIP rally in 1993, writing “That meeting, with a man who had achieved so much and sacrificed so much for his principles, awoke all sorts of aspirations in me which I had not even acknowledged before. It inspired me.” Farage also claimed in 2008 that “While his language may seem out of date now, his principles remain good and true”, and that “I would never say that Powell was racist in any way at all. Had we listened to him, we would have much better race relations now than we have got”. He has elsewhere agreed with a section of the Rivers of Blood speech, claiming that the “basic principle” was correct, spoke glowingly of Powell, and has even recited sections of the speech from memory.
Farage formerly had a column at Breitbart, the far-right, anti-immigrant “news” outlet, formerly owned by his longtime ally Steve Bannon and formerly headed in the UK by his ex-aide Raheem Kassam.
Farage blamed immigration for making him late to one of his own speaking events, stating “That has nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a country in which the population is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be.”
Farage defended a UKIP candidate’s use of the slur “ch*nky”, stating “If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?”
Following the Westminster attack, Farage spoke of a “fifth column living inside these European countries” on Fox News. “If you open your door to uncontrolled immigration from Middle Eastern countries, you are inviting in terrorism”, said Farage. He has elsewhere made “fifth column” comments in the wake of the 2015 Paris attack, here and here.
DANGEROUS AND DIVISIVE
Just after the Referendum result was announced, Farage stated that Brexit had been won “without a single bullet being fired”, just over a week after Jo Cox MP was assassinated.
In 2017, Farage claimed he would “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines” if May failed to deliver Brexit “properly”, claiming “there will be widespread public anger in this country on a scale and in a way we have never seen before”.
In September of this year Farage told a rally of supporters in Newport, South Wales that “once Brexit is done, we will take the knife” to “overpaid pen-pushers in Whitehall”. Farage later claimed that he “should have said ‘take the axe’, which is a more traditional term for cuts”.
SEXISM
Farage defended Trump’s “grab them by the pussy” remarks as “locker room banter” and “alpha-male boasting”.
Farage told women to “sit in the corner” if they wanted to breastfeed their children, in order not to be “openly ostentatious”.
He claimed that, in banking, women were “worth far less” than men if they chose to have a family: “If a woman with a client base has a child and takes two or three years off work, she is worth far less to her employer when she comes back than when she went away because that client base won’t be stuck as rigidly to her”. Upon being asked if this was fair, he replied: “I can’t change biology”.
Under his leadership, UKIP’s 2010 manifesto had a policy to abolish statutory maternity pay (SMP). “Rather than playing the ‘money-go-round’ with the attendant administrative burden, Ukip would abolish SMP entirely and simply allow parents who stay at home with their children to claim a weekly parental allowance set at the same level as the basic cash benefit proposed in our welfare policy (in other words, around £64 per week for parents aged 25 and above) regardless of how long they are off work and regardless of the other spouse’s income”.
In 2010, when asked about women’s football, Farage gave the following answer: “Here’s the bigger question. Do we think, chaps, when we’re there in the front line, when the balloon goes up, with fixed bayonets, when the whistle’s about to blow to go over the top, do we actually want to be there with women beside us? Do we? What an extraordinarily bizarre idea! I certainly don’t think so. But maybe it’s because I’ve got so many women pregnant over the years that I have a different view. I find it very difficult to think that we could stand up and run over the top together, into the machine guns or whatever. Men and women are different – thank God!”
DISHONESTY
In 2013 Farage claimed “I have never ever said ‘Britain is full’, I’ve never ever used that term” after calling for the government to offer refuge to Syrian Christians caught in the war. “That is not inconsistent with my position that says it is total madness, in two days time, to open up our borders to hundreds of thousands of people from Romania and Bulgaria”, said Farage. However, a video soon surfaced of him using the phrase “Britain is full” just months earlier.
In May 2016, Farage said he would back a second referendum if the margin of victory for the winning side was small. Farage told the Mirror “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it”.
In May 2019 The Metro reported that Farage had been labelled a “terrible, terrible human being” by a pub landlord, who alleged that Farage had fled the scene of a head-on car crash. “He didn’t even bother to see if me and my little boy were OK. He just upped and left”, he said, and went on to ban Farage from his Kent pub.
ELITE
Farage is the son of a wealthy stockbroker, and attended Dulwich College, one of the most elite schools in the country, which several family members had also attended. Farage went on to send his sons to boarding school.
He became a City metals trader after reportedly being offered the job by a man he met on a golf course. Despite repeatedly railing against politicians for never having worked a “proper job”, Farage described his work as:
“alcoholic like you cannot believe and, frankly, we were pretty amateur. There were terrible cockups in the afternoon, contracts bought instead of sold, some priced wrongly (decimal points and all those zeros can be tricky after a three-hour lunch), the wrong metal bought for the wrong client. When the mistakes came to light, usually the next day, we would just shrug our shoulders”.
“The trading room – full of cigarette smoke, smart suit jackets on the backs of chairs and long desks packed with multi-line phones – was close to the London Metals Exchange and to Coates wine bar, God help us, where we often went at 11.30 in the morning for sharpeners”.
“In the 1980s things hadn’t really changed much since P.G .Wodehouse’s book Psmith in the City. The character created by Wodehouse – like me, an old boy at Dulwich College – said that people in the City spend their mornings choosing where to go for lunch then their afternoons telling everyone how good it was.”
In 2016 Farage threw a party at the Ritz, during which he decried the “career, professional political class” to a room full of billionaires and multi-millionaires.
Despite claiming to be “skint” in 2017, the International Business Times estimated that he had a net worth of £2.4m the previous year. Farage also claimed in 2017 that he would not relinquish his pension from the EU.
In July 2018, The Guardian reported that Farage was the highest earning MEP outside the European Parliament of any of the 73 British MEPs, the seventh-highest earning MEP overall. The same article also claimed that, through his media work, he had earned between £524,000 and £700,000 in the previous four years.
This year Farage took a private plane to Strasbourg and stated he “can’t remember” how much it cost, claiming to have paid it himself. He later tweeted that he had been reimbursed by an unnamed businessman.
In May this year Channel 4 alleged that Arron Banks had given £450,000 to Farage following the Referendum, used to pay his £13,000 monthly rent for his Chelsea townhouse, and even provide him with a Land Rover Discovery with a driver. Farage evaded questions on the matter.
The Guardian reported in July 2019 that Farage is being paid at least £26,900 a month by his media company Thorn in the Side, which he founded to handle income from his media appearances and lectures.
In 2013, The Mirrorrevealed that Farage had set up an offshore trust fund on the Isle of Man, claiming that his “financial advisors recommended I did it”, and admitting it was a “mistake”, and that “I am not blaming them it was my fault”. In 2016 he also refused to release his tax returns, unlike a number of high-profile politicians, in the wake of the Panama Papers tax avoidance scandal

[Crimson Dynamo]

RACIST & XENOPHOBIC REMARKS
Farage said on LBC Radio in 2014: “I was asked if a group of Romanian men moved in next to you, would you be concerned? And if you lived in London, I think you would be”. Upon being asked whether he would object to living next door to German children, he replied “You know what the difference is”.
He claimed in 2014 that parts of Britain were “unrecognisable” and “like a foreign land”. He had also claimed he felt “awkward” when he heard people speaking other languages on the train.
When asked in a 2014 interview with Newsweek Europe who he thought should be allowed to come to the UK, he said: “People who do not have HIV, to be frank. That’s a good start. And people with a skill.” During the 2015 General Election campaign, he deployed misleading statistics about foreigners with HIV in a TV debate.
Farage unveiled his infamous Breaking Point poster in the lead up to the EU referendum, which was compared to Nazi propaganda. Farage refused to apologise for it.
During the Referendum Farage collaborated with Leave.EU, the unofficial Brexit campaign run by Farage’s longtime ally Arron Banks and co-founded by Brexit Party chairman Richard Tice, which relentlessly sought to link immigrants and Muslims to violence and societal decline. Both Farage and Tice have distanced themselves from Leave.EU since the Referendum, as multiple scandals have struck the outfit.
Farage is a well-known admirer of Enoch Powell, who is infamous for the “Rivers of Blood” speech. Farage asked Powell for his support in a by-election in 1994, and drove Powell to a UKIP rally in 1993, writing “That meeting, with a man who had achieved so much and sacrificed so much for his principles, awoke all sorts of aspirations in me which I had not even acknowledged before. It inspired me.” Farage also claimed in 2008 that “While his language may seem out of date now, his principles remain good and true”, and that “I would never say that Powell was racist in any way at all. Had we listened to him, we would have much better race relations now than we have got”. He has elsewhere agreed with a section of the Rivers of Blood speech, claiming that the “basic principle” was correct, spoke glowingly of Powell, and has even recited sections of the speech from memory.
Farage formerly had a column at Breitbart, the far-right, anti-immigrant “news” outlet, formerly owned by his longtime ally Steve Bannon and formerly headed in the UK by his ex-aide Raheem Kassam.
Farage blamed immigration for making him late to one of his own speaking events, stating “That has nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a country in which the population is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be.”
Farage defended a UKIP candidate’s use of the slur “ch*nky”, stating “If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?”
Following the Westminster attack, Farage spoke of a “fifth column living inside these European countries” on Fox News. “If you open your door to uncontrolled immigration from Middle Eastern countries, you are inviting in terrorism”, said Farage. He has elsewhere made “fifth column” comments in the wake of the 2015 Paris attack, here and here.
DANGEROUS AND DIVISIVE
Just after the Referendum result was announced, Farage stated that Brexit had been won “without a single bullet being fired”, just over a week after Jo Cox MP was assassinated.
In 2017, Farage claimed he would “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines” if May failed to deliver Brexit “properly”, claiming “there will be widespread public anger in this country on a scale and in a way we have never seen before”.
In September of this year Farage told a rally of supporters in Newport, South Wales that “once Brexit is done, we will take the knife” to “overpaid pen-pushers in Whitehall”. Farage later claimed that he “should have said ‘take the axe’, which is a more traditional term for cuts”.
SEXISM
Farage defended Trump’s “grab them by the pussy” remarks as “locker room banter” and “alpha-male boasting”.
Farage told women to “sit in the corner” if they wanted to breastfeed their children, in order not to be “openly ostentatious”.
He claimed that, in banking, women were “worth far less” than men if they chose to have a family: “If a woman with a client base has a child and takes two or three years off work, she is worth far less to her employer when she comes back than when she went away because that client base won’t be stuck as rigidly to her”. Upon being asked if this was fair, he replied: “I can’t change biology”.
Under his leadership, UKIP’s 2010 manifesto had a policy to abolish statutory maternity pay (SMP). “Rather than playing the ‘money-go-round’ with the attendant administrative burden, Ukip would abolish SMP entirely and simply allow parents who stay at home with their children to claim a weekly parental allowance set at the same level as the basic cash benefit proposed in our welfare policy (in other words, around £64 per week for parents aged 25 and above) regardless of how long they are off work and regardless of the other spouse’s income”.
In 2010, when asked about women’s football, Farage gave the following answer: “Here’s the bigger question. Do we think, chaps, when we’re there in the front line, when the balloon goes up, with fixed bayonets, when the whistle’s about to blow to go over the top, do we actually want to be there with women beside us? Do we? What an extraordinarily bizarre idea! I certainly don’t think so. But maybe it’s because I’ve got so many women pregnant over the years that I have a different view. I find it very difficult to think that we could stand up and run over the top together, into the machine guns or whatever. Men and women are different – thank God!”
DISHONESTY
In 2013 Farage claimed “I have never ever said ‘Britain is full’, I’ve never ever used that term” after calling for the government to offer refuge to Syrian Christians caught in the war. “That is not inconsistent with my position that says it is total madness, in two days time, to open up our borders to hundreds of thousands of people from Romania and Bulgaria”, said Farage. However, a video soon surfaced of him using the phrase “Britain is full” just months earlier.
In May 2016, Farage said he would back a second referendum if the margin of victory for the winning side was small. Farage told the Mirror “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it”.
In May 2019 The Metro reported that Farage had been labelled a “terrible, terrible human being” by a pub landlord, who alleged that Farage had fled the scene of a head-on car crash. “He didn’t even bother to see if me and my little boy were OK. He just upped and left”, he said, and went on to ban Farage from his Kent pub.
ELITE
Farage is the son of a wealthy stockbroker, and attended Dulwich College, one of the most elite schools in the country, which several family members had also attended. Farage went on to send his sons to boarding school.
He became a City metals trader after reportedly being offered the job by a man he met on a golf course. Despite repeatedly railing against politicians for never having worked a “proper job”, Farage described his work as:
“alcoholic like you cannot believe and, frankly, we were pretty amateur. There were terrible cockups in the afternoon, contracts bought instead of sold, some priced wrongly (decimal points and all those zeros can be tricky after a three-hour lunch), the wrong metal bought for the wrong client. When the mistakes came to light, usually the next day, we would just shrug our shoulders”.
“The trading room – full of cigarette smoke, smart suit jackets on the backs of chairs and long desks packed with multi-line phones – was close to the London Metals Exchange and to Coates wine bar, God help us, where we often went at 11.30 in the morning for sharpeners”.
“In the 1980s things hadn’t really changed much since P.G .Wodehouse’s book Psmith in the City. The character created by Wodehouse – like me, an old boy at Dulwich College – said that people in the City spend their mornings choosing where to go for lunch then their afternoons telling everyone how good it was.”
In 2016 Farage threw a party at the Ritz, during which he decried the “career, professional political class” to a room full of billionaires and multi-millionaires.
Despite claiming to be “skint” in 2017, the International Business Times estimated that he had a net worth of £2.4m the previous year. Farage also claimed in 2017 that he would not relinquish his pension from the EU.
In July 2018, The Guardian reported that Farage was the highest earning MEP outside the European Parliament of any of the 73 British MEPs, the seventh-highest earning MEP overall. The same article also claimed that, through his media work, he had earned between £524,000 and £700,000 in the previous four years.
This year Farage took a private plane to Strasbourg and stated he “can’t remember” how much it cost, claiming to have paid it himself. He later tweeted that he had been reimbursed by an unnamed businessman.
In May this year Channel 4 alleged that Arron Banks had given £450,000 to Farage following the Referendum, used to pay his £13,000 monthly rent for his Chelsea townhouse, and even provide him with a Land Rover Discovery with a driver. Farage evaded questions on the matter.
The Guardian reported in July 2019 that Farage is being paid at least £26,900 a month by his media company Thorn in the Side, which he founded to handle income from his media appearances and lectures.
In 2013, The Mirrorrevealed that Farage had set up an offshore trust fund on the Isle of Man, claiming that his “financial advisors recommended I did it”, and admitting it was a “mistake”, and that “I am not blaming them it was my fault”. In 2016 he also refused to release his tax returns, unlike a number of high-profile politicians, in the wake of the Panama Papers tax avoidance scandal

:joker: what is that some AI generated guff


Talk about a cut and paste cowboy



embarrassing

try a lot harder

[Beso]

So you see me defending her, and then you blanketly describe everyone defending her as morons. It hardly took an intellectual leap to make the connection.

You wernt defending her, you were asking me to prove something.

[Glenn.]

:joker: what is that some AI generated guff


Talk about a cut and paste cowboy



embarrassing

try a lot harder

LT admitting he can’t read?

[Kate!]

LT admitting he can’t read?

He can obviously read, what a stupid statement. :shrug:

[Glenn.]

Ok

[The Slim Reaper]

You wernt defending her, you were asking me to prove something.

I was clearly defending her, but if it was a misunderstanding then we can both just keep it moving.

[The Slim Reaper]

:joker: what is that some AI generated guff


Talk about a cut and paste cowboy



embarrassing

try a lot harder

No problem with what you've said, but of all the people on the forum to accuse someone else of being a C&P merchant, you ain't da one, homie.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Our Nigel's is live in 30

aRe7H4-AUeY

[Glenn.]

I didn’t say it wasn’t a copy and paste job :shrug:

No on has the time to type out that much wrongdoing from one man

[GiRTh]

Are we seriously taking Faridge and Tommy Robinson seriously.

Faridge had the chance to lead Ukip but stepped down as leader less than a month after the referendum in 2016.

As for Robinson, he founded the EDL. DO we need to say more or has he now denounced his creation?

[The Slim Reaper]

Are we seriously taking Faridge and Tommy Robinson seriously.

Faridge had the chance to lead Ukip but stepped down as leader less than a month after the referendum in 2016.

As for Robinson, he founded the EDL. DO we need to say more or has he now denounced his creation?

Fair points, but whatchagonadoo when LT hits you with a joker smiley to thoroughly disprove everything you've written?

[GiRTh]

Fair points, but whatchagonadoo when LT hits you with a joker smiley to thoroughly disprove everything you've written?Ask him to state his point in his own words. We both know he wont.

[user104658]

"Wow imagine just copy and pasting everything"
*posts the days 70th YouTube video*

:joker: got to be deliberately playing the clown at this point. Got to be.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are we seriously taking Faridge and Tommy Robinson seriously.

Faridge had the chance to lead Ukip but stepped down as leader less than a month after the referendum in 2016.

As for Robinson, he founded the EDL. DO we need to say more or has he now denounced his creation?

oh look you spelled his name wrong to try and be edgy when in fact you are just copying James O'Brien from LBC

wow

:joker:

[user104658]

oh look you spelled his name wrong to try and be edgy when in fact you are just copying James O'Brien from LBC

wow

:joker:

Wow :joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

Ask him to state his point in his own words. We both know he wont.

Another good point, but whatchagonnadoo when he totally ignores your request to then hit you with another jokey smiley? Once again totally pwning you and disproving everything you've ever said :smug:

[GiRTh]

oh look you spelled his name wrong to try and be edgy when in fact you are just copying James O'Brien from LBC

wow

:joker:Thats right. You've made that point before and I feel its relevant that Mr Britain's surname doesn't sound very British

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Wow imagine just copy and pasting everything"
*posts the days 70th YouTube video*

:joker: got to be deliberately playing the clown at this point. Got to be.

aww SB you have some friends to back you up

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/f0/de/55/f0de55f74cef727af16145fefd20dc77.jpg

sweet

[user104658]

aww SB you have some friends to back you up

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/f0/de/55/f0de55f74cef727af16145fefd20dc77.jpg

sweet

Don't worry LT, I'm sure Parmy, Alf, Livia and Kate will be along shortly :skull: :skull: :skull:. Pop the wee blue pill now if anything, give yourself 10 minutes prep time.

[DemRed]

I don't like any of the leading figures of any of the parties.
Can't stand Starmer or Sunak.
Quite like Bridgen, but he always speaks to an empty house.

[GiRTh]

Another good point, but whatchagonnadoo when he totally ignores your request to then hit you with another jokey smiley? Once again totally pwning you and disproving everything you've ever said :smug:I shall concede defeat.

[The Slim Reaper]

I shall concede defeat.

:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Greta Thunberg.

I used to respect her views a few years ago, but nowadays she's just as fame obsessed as most of the people in the public eye.

[Mystic Mock]

Do you remember our discussion on the existence of a tibb hive mind/echo chamber?

It's definitely something that needs to be avoided.

Hopefully nobody on here is getting influenced into their Political opinions.

[Mystic Mock]

https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/33839/syrian-refugee-boy-wins-case-against-uk-rightwing-personality-tommy-robinson

A well deserved defeat going by what the article is saying.

[Mystic Mock]

RACIST & XENOPHOBIC REMARKS
Farage said on LBC Radio in 2014: “I was asked if a group of Romanian men moved in next to you, would you be concerned? And if you lived in London, I think you would be”. Upon being asked whether he would object to living next door to German children, he replied “You know what the difference is”.
He claimed in 2014 that parts of Britain were “unrecognisable” and “like a foreign land”. He had also claimed he felt “awkward” when he heard people speaking other languages on the train.
When asked in a 2014 interview with Newsweek Europe who he thought should be allowed to come to the UK, he said: “People who do not have HIV, to be frank. That’s a good start. And people with a skill.” During the 2015 General Election campaign, he deployed misleading statistics about foreigners with HIV in a TV debate.
Farage unveiled his infamous Breaking Point poster in the lead up to the EU referendum, which was compared to Nazi propaganda. Farage refused to apologise for it.
During the Referendum Farage collaborated with Leave.EU, the unofficial Brexit campaign run by Farage’s longtime ally Arron Banks and co-founded by Brexit Party chairman Richard Tice, which relentlessly sought to link immigrants and Muslims to violence and societal decline. Both Farage and Tice have distanced themselves from Leave.EU since the Referendum, as multiple scandals have struck the outfit.
Farage is a well-known admirer of Enoch Powell, who is infamous for the “Rivers of Blood” speech. Farage asked Powell for his support in a by-election in 1994, and drove Powell to a UKIP rally in 1993, writing “That meeting, with a man who had achieved so much and sacrificed so much for his principles, awoke all sorts of aspirations in me which I had not even acknowledged before. It inspired me.” Farage also claimed in 2008 that “While his language may seem out of date now, his principles remain good and true”, and that “I would never say that Powell was racist in any way at all. Had we listened to him, we would have much better race relations now than we have got”. He has elsewhere agreed with a section of the Rivers of Blood speech, claiming that the “basic principle” was correct, spoke glowingly of Powell, and has even recited sections of the speech from memory.
Farage formerly had a column at Breitbart, the far-right, anti-immigrant “news” outlet, formerly owned by his longtime ally Steve Bannon and formerly headed in the UK by his ex-aide Raheem Kassam.
Farage blamed immigration for making him late to one of his own speaking events, stating “That has nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a country in which the population is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be.”
Farage defended a UKIP candidate’s use of the slur “ch*nky”, stating “If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?”
Following the Westminster attack, Farage spoke of a “fifth column living inside these European countries” on Fox News. “If you open your door to uncontrolled immigration from Middle Eastern countries, you are inviting in terrorism”, said Farage. He has elsewhere made “fifth column” comments in the wake of the 2015 Paris attack, here and here.
DANGEROUS AND DIVISIVE
Just after the Referendum result was announced, Farage stated that Brexit had been won “without a single bullet being fired”, just over a week after Jo Cox MP was assassinated.
In 2017, Farage claimed he would “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines” if May failed to deliver Brexit “properly”, claiming “there will be widespread public anger in this country on a scale and in a way we have never seen before”.
In September of this year Farage told a rally of supporters in Newport, South Wales that “once Brexit is done, we will take the knife” to “overpaid pen-pushers in Whitehall”. Farage later claimed that he “should have said ‘take the axe’, which is a more traditional term for cuts”.
SEXISM
Farage defended Trump’s “grab them by the pussy” remarks as “locker room banter” and “alpha-male boasting”.
Farage told women to “sit in the corner” if they wanted to breastfeed their children, in order not to be “openly ostentatious”.
He claimed that, in banking, women were “worth far less” than men if they chose to have a family: “If a woman with a client base has a child and takes two or three years off work, she is worth far less to her employer when she comes back than when she went away because that client base won’t be stuck as rigidly to her”. Upon being asked if this was fair, he replied: “I can’t change biology”.
Under his leadership, UKIP’s 2010 manifesto had a policy to abolish statutory maternity pay (SMP). “Rather than playing the ‘money-go-round’ with the attendant administrative burden, Ukip would abolish SMP entirely and simply allow parents who stay at home with their children to claim a weekly parental allowance set at the same level as the basic cash benefit proposed in our welfare policy (in other words, around £64 per week for parents aged 25 and above) regardless of how long they are off work and regardless of the other spouse’s income”.
In 2010, when asked about women’s football, Farage gave the following answer: “Here’s the bigger question. Do we think, chaps, when we’re there in the front line, when the balloon goes up, with fixed bayonets, when the whistle’s about to blow to go over the top, do we actually want to be there with women beside us? Do we? What an extraordinarily bizarre idea! I certainly don’t think so. But maybe it’s because I’ve got so many women pregnant over the years that I have a different view. I find it very difficult to think that we could stand up and run over the top together, into the machine guns or whatever. Men and women are different – thank God!”
DISHONESTY
In 2013 Farage claimed “I have never ever said ‘Britain is full’, I’ve never ever used that term” after calling for the government to offer refuge to Syrian Christians caught in the war. “That is not inconsistent with my position that says it is total madness, in two days time, to open up our borders to hundreds of thousands of people from Romania and Bulgaria”, said Farage. However, a video soon surfaced of him using the phrase “Britain is full” just months earlier.
In May 2016, Farage said he would back a second referendum if the margin of victory for the winning side was small. Farage told the Mirror “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it”.
In May 2019 The Metro reported that Farage had been labelled a “terrible, terrible human being” by a pub landlord, who alleged that Farage had fled the scene of a head-on car crash. “He didn’t even bother to see if me and my little boy were OK. He just upped and left”, he said, and went on to ban Farage from his Kent pub.
ELITE
Farage is the son of a wealthy stockbroker, and attended Dulwich College, one of the most elite schools in the country, which several family members had also attended. Farage went on to send his sons to boarding school.
He became a City metals trader after reportedly being offered the job by a man he met on a golf course. Despite repeatedly railing against politicians for never having worked a “proper job”, Farage described his work as:
“alcoholic like you cannot believe and, frankly, we were pretty amateur. There were terrible cockups in the afternoon, contracts bought instead of sold, some priced wrongly (decimal points and all those zeros can be tricky after a three-hour lunch), the wrong metal bought for the wrong client. When the mistakes came to light, usually the next day, we would just shrug our shoulders”.
“The trading room – full of cigarette smoke, smart suit jackets on the backs of chairs and long desks packed with multi-line phones – was close to the London Metals Exchange and to Coates wine bar, God help us, where we often went at 11.30 in the morning for sharpeners”.
“In the 1980s things hadn’t really changed much since P.G .Wodehouse’s book Psmith in the City. The character created by Wodehouse – like me, an old boy at Dulwich College – said that people in the City spend their mornings choosing where to go for lunch then their afternoons telling everyone how good it was.”
In 2016 Farage threw a party at the Ritz, during which he decried the “career, professional political class” to a room full of billionaires and multi-millionaires.
Despite claiming to be “skint” in 2017, the International Business Times estimated that he had a net worth of £2.4m the previous year. Farage also claimed in 2017 that he would not relinquish his pension from the EU.
In July 2018, The Guardian reported that Farage was the highest earning MEP outside the European Parliament of any of the 73 British MEPs, the seventh-highest earning MEP overall. The same article also claimed that, through his media work, he had earned between £524,000 and £700,000 in the previous four years.
This year Farage took a private plane to Strasbourg and stated he “can’t remember” how much it cost, claiming to have paid it himself. He later tweeted that he had been reimbursed by an unnamed businessman.
In May this year Channel 4 alleged that Arron Banks had given £450,000 to Farage following the Referendum, used to pay his £13,000 monthly rent for his Chelsea townhouse, and even provide him with a Land Rover Discovery with a driver. Farage evaded questions on the matter.
The Guardian reported in July 2019 that Farage is being paid at least £26,900 a month by his media company Thorn in the Side, which he founded to handle income from his media appearances and lectures.
In 2013, The Mirrorrevealed that Farage had set up an offshore trust fund on the Isle of Man, claiming that his “financial advisors recommended I did it”, and admitting it was a “mistake”, and that “I am not blaming them it was my fault”. In 2016 he also refused to release his tax returns, unlike a number of high-profile politicians, in the wake of the Panama Papers tax avoidance scandal

Controversially I agree with the BIB.

Not feeling awkward per say, but I think that it's rude if you're not even trying to speak the country's national language.

I have had this opinion even back to the days during the Football when Gary Neville was managing Valencia, and he was doing all of his interviews in English, it's ignorant to behave like that in public.

I don't agree with Farage on much though, so I'm going to be horrified at the rare case where we're on the same track.

[Mystic Mock]

I didn’t say it wasn’t a copy and paste job :shrug:

No on has the time to type out that much wrongdoing from one man

You underestimate my psychotic tendencies when I can really get going.:joker:

[Beso]

There seems to be about 80 to 100 thousand attending tommy robinsons 2 tier policing rally today..a very long line of people.

[Beso]

https://www.youtube.com/live/tMhCCQH4R1o?si=JWNUi6a_k6RN6P5r


Live link.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Live on X too

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1BdxYrYAYklKX

[Glenn.]

Lmao bless them

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/940x/secondary/Tommy-Robinson-pictured-at-the-rally-5407629.avif?r=1717245494152

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/940x/secondary/5407626.avif?1717244040807

[DemRed]

I likeTrump and I used to dispise him. I'm also really pleased that Robert Kennedy Junior has put himself forward for the presidential campaign. I used to like Biden, but now I can't stand him.

I can't say I like anyone of any importance in our government.
I admire Galloway because he cuts through the bullshit.

I just wish we had a few Robert Kennedy's or Rand Pauls over here.
You don't have to be Left or Right. Nothing wrong with just picking out the policies you like, regardless of which party they come from.

[DemRed]

Robinson is too preocupied with 'the Islamist threat' and supporting ethnic cleansing to take seriously. Even The Times of Israel and the Jewish Leadership Council can't stand him. Meanwhile, in the US, the far Right fully support and fund his court cases.

[Zizu]

I likeTrump and I used to dispise him. I'm also really pleased that Robert Kennedy Junior has put himself forward for the presidential campaign. I used to like Biden, but now I can't stand him.

I can't say I like anyone of any importance in our government.
I admire Galloway because he cuts through the bullshit.

I just wish we had a few Robert Kennedy's or Rand Pauls over here.
You don't have to be Left or Right. Nothing wrong with just picking out the policies you like, regardless of which party they come from.


What’s to like about Trump .. serious question !

I’m genuinely curious


I used to get stick for liking Boris but at least he appeared to be a nice, harmless guy ..

Can’t say that about Trump at all


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[DemRed]

Controversially I agree with the BIB.

Not feeling awkward per say, but I think that it's rude if you're not even trying to speak the country's national language.

I have had this opinion even back to the days during the Football when Gary Neville was managing Valencia, and he was doing all of his interviews in English, it's ignorant to behave like that in public.

I don't agree with Farage on much though, so I'm going to be horrified at the rare case where we're on the same track.

When he had his account at the private bank Coutts closed down because they didn't like his political opinions, he campaigned, not just for himself but for all the other people who had, either had their bank accounts frozen or closed down because of their political opinion.
In this case, his activism changed things for a lot of people in the UK and the notorious banks that were doing this stopped.

[DemRed]

WhatÂ’s to like about Trump .. serious question !

IÂ’m genuinely curious


I used to get stick for liking Boris but at least he appeared to be a nice, harmless guy ..

CanÂ’t say that about Trump at all


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You have to put aside that he's a loose cannon and a gobby one at that. Truly though, he doesn't take any bullshit.

He has called man made climate change a hoax, whilst at the same time, reminding us of how serious we must be about looking after our planet.

He's built up industry in the US. So much so that over 4 million people were employed in these industries and started to collect half decent salaries. He supported small business and put money into reastablishing them. At the end of his term the US had the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded

He made tax cuts, which radically lifted the economy (which had been previously suffering prior to him being elected)

He wasn't a war monger. Rather than pour petrol on Russia and North Korea, he made a point of making peace with them.

A lot of people kicked off about his policy on putting lone kids crossing the Mexican borer into children's homes. I remember being horrified about this, but then I learnt that many of these kids end up being sex trafficked. That's what he was stopping.

The list goes on. And of course he did some crap things like not including Palestine in the Abraham accords. He did though, do a lot more for the American people than previous presidents.

Edited to say: I believe when any new President or PM get into power, they are hugely dominated by what I call, 'the men in black'. When Trump was elected he was his own man, I think he was probably the first president, in a long time, who ran the country how he wanted to run it and he was hated by many at the top for doing so.