Labour will recognise Palestine as a state : in their Manifesto

[arista]

2 Reporters have found out.


Great Was Live Debate on Ian Dale on LBC


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/06/keir-starmer-expected-push-palestinian-state-labour-manifesto



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[DemRed]

Well that's a very big something, though Netanyahu will now order the IL to stop funding his campaign. It will though, bring about a lot more votes for his party.

[Livia]

Of course he will.

[Mystic Mock]

We'll see about that.

Leaders of Political parties aren't above lying blatantly to their voters, and I do believe that this is one of those moments.

[Crimson Dynamo]

please vote for me muslims

[Beso]

Sitting down with hamas..

Vile bastards.

[Cherie]

Cynical ploy to win back the Muslim vote

[Liam-]

As he should, but unfortunately it’s too late and also not enough

[user104658]

The UK has always favoured a two-state solution, it literally says so on the .gov site.

[bots]

next week it will be free cola flavoured jaffa cakes for everyone that votes labour

[Beso]

I give starmer 6 months in office before sadiq takes charge.

[arista]

Cynical ploy to win back the Muslim vote

Sadly True

[user104658]

next week it will be free cola flavoured jaffa cakes for everyone that votes labour

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[user104658]

Cynical ploy to win back the Muslim vote

Politics gonna polatick :shrug:

[arista]

next week it will be free cola flavoured jaffa cakes for everyone that votes labour


Yes a pack of 10
for each voter

[Liam-]

The assumption that it’s only Muslim voters that are turned off by the attitudes towards Palestine is deeply naive

[user104658]

The assumption that it’s only Muslim voters that are turned off by the attitudes towards Palestine is deeply naive

Meh, assumptions are always abound, I seem to have been lumped in as some sort of woke Gen Z for having various opinions that veer from the Gammon Path, when in reality I'm a TERFy greying centrist Xennial hurtling towards middle-age.

No scope for a middle ground these days. If you don't think children should get blown up, you might as well pick up an AK and join Hamas.

[arista]

I can see a Future Front Page
Labour back Hamas

[user104658]

I can see a Future Front Page
Labour back Hamas

No paper is going to print that lol, they'll imply it but it would never be a headline.

A TiBB thread, absolutely. "WOKE LEFTIST Labour Back Hamas And Think Oct 7th Was Justified"

[joeysteele]

I've always believed there needs to be the 2 State set up.
That's been talked about for decades but nothing done really significantly.

For me this move, IF it is in the manifesto, for me it's about time and is actually long overdue too.
So I'd welcome it.

[arista]

No paper is going to print that lol, they'll imply it but it would never be a headline.

A TiBB thread, absolutely. "WOKE LEFTIST Labour Back Hamas And Think Oct 7th Was Justified"

Yes fair point SB

[user104658]

I've always believed there needs to be the 2 State set up.
That's been talked about for decades but nothing done really significantly.

For me this move, IF it is in the manifesto, for me it's about time and is actually long overdue too.
So I'd welcome it.

The problem of course will always be Jerusalem. You could divide the land right down the middle but both want the Holy City. Which is why IMO it really needs to be a three-state solution with Jerusalem as an internationally supported, resourced and funded city-state. If it's truly of such high religious significance to all three Abrahamic religions, then it cannot belong to any one of them, without permanent conflict.

[joeysteele]

The problem of course will always be Jerusalem. You could divide the land right down the middle but both want the Holy City. Which is why IMO it really needs to be a three-state solution with Jerusalem as an internationally supported, resourced and funded city-state. If it's truly of such high religious significance to all three Abrahamic religions, then it cannot belong to any one of them, without permanent conflict.

I could easily support that too.

[Nicky91]

The problem of course will always be Jerusalem. You could divide the land right down the middle but both want the Holy City. Which is why IMO it really needs to be a three-state solution with Jerusalem as an internationally supported, resourced and funded city-state. If it's truly of such high religious significance to all three Abrahamic religions, then it cannot belong to any one of them, without permanent conflict.

make Jerusalem something like vatican city then, with borders around it


:think:


since jerusalem is a holy city, it does not need to be owned by either israel or palestine, or be fought over in a war


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_City

Vatican City is a landlocked sovereign country,[16][17] city-state, microstate, and enclave within Rome, Italy.[18][19] It became independent from Italy in 1929 with the Lateran Treaty, and it is a distinct territory under "full ownership, exclusive dominion, and sovereign authority and jurisdiction" of the Holy See, itself a sovereign entity under international law, which maintains the city-state's temporal power and governance, diplomatic, and spiritual independence. The Vatican is also a metonym for the pope, the city-state's and worldwide Catholic Church government Holy See, and Roman Curia


so let jerusalem be independent and owned by some holy leadership and make it forbidden to fight over there from both israeli and palestinian forces, one place of religious neutrality would do that conflict some good i think

[Beso]

The palestinians are angry at the Israelis because they think Jerusalem is theirs, and vice versa. To think either would allow a 3rd party to take control of it is a ridiculous notion.

[user104658]

The palestinians are angry at the Israelis because they think Jerusalem is theirs, and vice versa. To think either would allow a 3rd party to take control of it is a ridiculous notion.

They don't want a third party in control of it nor each other in control of it, thus there can be no end to the conflict. It obviously wouldn't end even if Palestine ceased to exist entirely and every last Muslim in Israel was expelled. Jerusalem isn't contested by Israel and Palestine, ultimately it's contested by Jews and Muslims. Christians don't seem all that bothered these days. The skeptical middle-child.

[arista]

Live Debate
LBC.

It is in the i paper


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