Euro 2024 Group C: Slovenia, Denmark, Serbia, England

[Zizu]

In the season just gone Spurs were the best pressing team statistically

They allowed , on average , their opponents just 8 passes before they made a tackle/ regained possession. .

The worst rated team unsurprising was Nottingham Forest with 16 !


Last night England allowed Denmark 25 passes each phase !!!

Shocking !!!!!


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[Crimson Dynamo]

In the season just gone Spurs were the best pressing team statistically

They allowed , on average , their opponents just 8 passes before they made a tackle/ regained possession. .

The worst rated team unsurprising was Nottingham Forest with 16 !


Last night England allowed 25 passes each phase !!!

Shocking !!!!!


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holy f.uck that is bad

[Beso]

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[Mystic Mock]

Its not too long ago many were suggesting we’d win the Euros easily and then win the world cup in 2 years .. such was the quality of the talent at our disposal


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England always have the players to win tournaments (even back in the Sven days) England could've easily won all of those tournaments back then.

The biggest issue that England has, is the players, for whatever reason we rarely ever get a generation of players that actually want to try.

Is Southgate making mistakes? Yes, but these players still could've beat Denmark if they really wanted to, they're just lazy players at England, the exceptions being the 1966 World Cup and the 2018 Russia World Cup, and the Euro 2021 Final.

[Nicky91]

England always have the players to win tournaments (even back in the Sven days) England could've easily won all of those tournaments back then.

The biggest issue that England has, is the players, for whatever reason we rarely ever get a generation of players that actually want to try.

Is Southgate making mistakes? Yes, but these players still could've beat Denmark if they really wanted to, they're just lazy players at England, the exceptions being the 1966 World Cup and the 2018 Russia World Cup, and the Euro 2021 Final.

England always ruins everything for themselves :fan:


wether its the good old ''its coming home'' jinx, or just being downright lazy in lacking more ambition to fully go for the win each match



England needs a serious dosage of ''german mentality'' tbh, or a serious dosage of someone who isn't scared of benching some of these lazy players in favor of those who actually give a damn, Galtier in my opinion is a perfect coach for them, who isn't too scared of benching the bigger ''stars'' in a team

[Mystic Mock]

England always ruins everything for themselves :fan:


wether its the good old ''its coming home'' jinx, or just being downright lazy in lacking more ambition to fully go for the win each match



England needs a serious dosage of ''german mentality'' tbh, or a serious dosage of someone who isn't scared of benching some of these lazy players in favor of those who actually give a damn, Galtier in my opinion is a perfect coach for them, who isn't too scared of benching the bigger ''stars'' in a team

This definitely needs to happen.

[bots]

When you are building a team, you bring together players with skills that compliment each other. It's what makes a team. The current england team may be very skilful, but they simply can't play together as a team

[Nicky91]

unless ur a turd like Hansi Flick or Domenico Tedesco :fan: then you'll tend to suck regardless of quality of your squad



the combo of Nagelsmann/Voller already works way better

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

probable line up england for tonight

Pickford, Walker, Stones, Guehi, Shaw, Bellingham, Rice, Saka, Foden, Gordon, Kane

[arista]

probable line up england for tonight

Pickford, Walker, Stones, Guehi, Shaw, Bellingham, Rice, Saka, Foden, Gordon, Kane


They should win Nicky
Against some unknown nation



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[Nicky91]

They should win Nicky
Against some unknown nation



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Unknown Nation????


Jan Oblak the goalkeeper playing for spanish top team Atletico Madrid

Benny Sesko a pure Red Bull product went through all the red bull teams in europe including youth academy team of theirs


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and Slovenia aren't a unknown sports nation anymore, they have a top contender for this years Tour de France me thinks, in Tadej Pogacar, as well as Primoz Roglic

[arista]

Unknown Nation????


Jan Oblak the goalkeeper playing for spanish top team Atletico Madrid

Benny Sesko a pure Red Bull product went through all the red bull teams in europe including youth academy team of theirs


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and Slovenia aren't a unknown sports nation anymore, they have a top contender for this years Tour de France me thinks, in Tadej Pogacar, as well as Primoz Roglic



OK Nicky.

[arista]

Live Now

[Vanessa]

Come on England! :cheer2:

[Zizu]

Crappy start already


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[bots]

this could be quite an interesting game

[Zizu]

Guehi with a ludicrous pass already!

I mentioned his penchant for sh1te passing weeks ago


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[Vanessa]

England really need a win.

[Zizu]

this could be quite an interesting game


Is this what theyve been promising all day ?


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[Zizu]

England really need a win.


I’d be happy with some forward passes


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[Zizu]

We have Gallagher in now who can’t pass


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[GiRTh]

So far, so good. Come on Slovenia.

I want Southgate gone so badly that this is what I'm reduced to.

[Swan]

Slovenia look the better team, no surprise though really

[Vanessa]

Oh that was offside. No goal.

[Zizu]

So far, so good. Come on Slovenia.

I want Southgate gone so badly that this is what I'm reduced to.


Anyone walking in would assume that we were in Blue

They look comfortable and more technical gifted than us .. why does this happen time after time


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[GiRTh]

Anyone walking in would assume that we were in Blue

They look comfortable and more technical gifted than us .. why does this happen time after time


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[Zizu]

We cant even make short passes ( Foden’s passing is dreadful again )


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[Zizu]

Fans whistling in disgust


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[Zizu]

We are gonna get another sh1tty 2:0 victory aren’t we


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[Zizu]

We are qualified so why not play ten reserves and see who impresses


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[arista]

33mins

0-0

[Vanessa]

A penalty!

[Vanessa]

Much better from England.

[Zizu]

So tell me what is the point of Gallagher ?

He’s on a yellow already from the other night so another rules him out of the next game
Means he can’t tackle recklessly like usual


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[Zizu]

Foden has loads of touches but yet to pass forwards PLUS has he EVER won a tackle ?

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[Swan]

:sleep:

[GiRTh]

Even game so far

[Zizu]

Right

Kane , Foden , Gallagher , Saka and even Bellingham OFF

GET Palmer , Wharton , Mainoo, Toney , Ezi and TAA


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[Zizu]

Even game so far


Absolute shocker

Gawd how I wish we played like Spain

They are slowly evolving into a very dangerous proposition

They still play the possession game ( that we can’t) but now can break away fast down both flanks ( that we can’t)


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[Zizu]

One change

Gallagher off


He’s an imbecile


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[GiRTh]

Takes of Gallagher and brings on Mainoo. Would that be a like for like substitution?
I'm done. I want Gareth gone much more than I want England to win. Clueless dickhead.

[Zizu]

OMG

Make some changes you absolute dikwad !!


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[Zizu]

Takes of Gallagher and brings on Mainoo. Would that be a like for like substitution?
I'm done. I want Gareth gone much more than I want England to win. Clueless dickhead.


I am at that stage as well

This is the fifth consecutive ****-show including those friendlies


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[Swan]

Come on you blues!

[GiRTh]

Gallagher played in every game but not a full half. ITs clear GS doesn't trust him. What was the point of selecting him?

[Swan]

Bet Palmer wishes he was sat on a beach somewhere right now

[GiRTh]

Bet Palmer wishes he was sat on a beach somewhere right now :clap1:

[Zizu]

Bet Palmer wishes he was sat on a beach somewhere right now


I’m happy for Jack Grealish :)

Ben White also proven right


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[GiRTh]

Palmer coming. HE better not take off Saka.

[Zizu]

I wonder if the Spain fans appreciate their team ??

All the years of success, World Cup , consecutive Euro wins whilst playing beautiful football .. then there’s us .. with Gareth for 100 games


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[Crimson Dynamo]

This is f*ucking abysmal

[Swan]

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[Zizu]

I wonder how many back passes Foden has made today


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[Zizu]

Another howler from Guehi


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[Swan]

Finally!

[James]

Palmer coming. HE better not take off Saka.

:laugh:

[GiRTh]

:laugh:Saka is the scapegoat again.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Saka is the scapegoat again.

He has been sh1t

Him and the other 10

[arista]

79mins

0-0

[Zizu]

Palmer has made a difference


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[Zizu]

Foden is an idiot

He gets a yellow then shows dissent walking away


That could easily have gone to a red


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[GiRTh]

He has been sh1t

Him and the other 10:laugh:
True, but the other 10 and Foden and Kane all stay on. Saka was not the worst of them today. Look at what Southgates has reduced us to, this player was not as bad as this other. Sack him in the middle of the tournament. Pathetic showing :laugh:

[Swan]

Omg this is the most boring game in the history of football

[GiRTh]

Omg this is the most boring game in the history of football:clap1:

Its a big call to say who has been England's worse player. Four or five are in the running.

[Zizu]

TAA on for 6 SIX minutes


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[Swan]

:clap1:

Its a big call to say who has been England's worse player. Four or five are in the running.

They just look so incredibly sh!t, it's actually unbelievable. Look at a lot of these players club form, now look at this pathetic display. Yeah the players are a joke, but fcuk Southgate so much.

[Zizu]

Omg this is the most boring game in the history of football


Is there a petition to get rid of Southgate ?


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[Swan]

There should be!

Imagine the less than casual watchers sitting through this, what must they be thinking right now?! Such a sh!t advert for English football.

[GiRTh]

Gordon on for 2 minutes .:laugh:

[Swan]

I really hope Slovenia nick it.

[Zizu]

Gordon on for Foden 89th minute


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[GiRTh]

Saka would have buried that :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Zizu]

Gordon on for 2 minutes .:laugh:


His first touch was to kick it out of touch and run after it


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[Swan]

When interrogating criminals in future, just show them this game on a loop, they'll be singing like a canary in no time.

[GiRTh]

Slovenians fans celebrating like they won the World cup. :joker:

[MTVN]

Happy enough with that. Job done and room to grow into the tournament. Subs did well and it's two clean sheets

Fair play to Slovenia, defended very doggedly

[Vanessa]

Slovenians fans celebrating like they won the World cup. :joker:

They only have three points. Surely that's not enough?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Happy enough with that. Job done and room to grow into the tournament. Subs did well and it's two clean sheets



Literally the worst hot take in the history of hot takes

:skull:

[GiRTh]

Happy enough with that. Job done and room to grow into the tournament. Subs did well and it's two clean sheets

Fair play to Slovenia, defended very doggedlyI agree with LT. We're celebrating clean sheets against Serbia and Slovenia? :joker::joker:

[MTVN]

Defence wins tournaments chaps

[MTVN]

Some fans sense of entitlement and disrespect of other teams is astonishing

[GiRTh]

Defence wins tournaments chaps:laugh::laugh:

You're right, Gareth is playing 3d chess and we're all playing snap. :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Defence wins tournaments chaps

Like Greece when they won and ruined a whole tournament

Get that mentality in the bin

[Crimson Dynamo]

Safegate saying "we were much improved with the ball"

Deluded fud

[GiRTh]

Still the same number of goals as Scotland and they didnt make it. Feel for the Tartan Army. They looked better than England.

[GiRTh]

Like Greece when they won and ruined a whole tournament

Get that mentality in the binTrue. That was a great tournament except for the team that won it. I dont want that kind of victory for England.

[MTVN]

Still the same number of goals as Scotland and they didnt make it. Feel for the Tartan Army. They looked better than England.

Now I know you're on the wind up :joker:

The Scots were a disgrace. Other teams step their game up against England but still can't beat us

[GiRTh]

Now I know you're on the wind up :joker:

The Scots were a disgrace. Other teams step their game up against England but still can't beat usYou actually are celebrating clean sheets against Serbia and Slovenia., I put it you that you sir, that you are the one on the wind up.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't care about what the tactics were in this game.

These England players should be able to beat Slovenia blindfolded, the gulf between the two teams is that huge.

The England players are having a temper tantrum because Southgate didn't pick some of their mates to join the squad, it's absolutely pathetic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Defence wins tournaments chaps

Now I know you're on the wind up :joker:

The Scots were a disgrace. Other teams step their game up against England but still can't beat us

You have played sh1t teams. Not one half as good as Switzerland

England are a shambles

[MTVN]

You have played sh1t teams. Not one half as good as Switzerland

England are a shambles

You actually are celebrating clean sheets against Serbia and Slovenia., I put it you that you sir, that you are the one on the wind up.

Very disrespectful to the Slovenians imo

[Mystic Mock]

Happy enough with that. Job done and room to grow into the tournament. Subs did well and it's two clean sheets

Fair play to Slovenia, defended very doggedly

England aren't beating the Netherlands if they can't break down Slovenia.

Unless a Blackburn beating Leicester 2-0 on the final day moment were to happen again, which I don't think that the Sport should be encouraged to do engineering like that for crap teams.

[Alf]

Unbeaten. Top of the group. First phase passed comfortably. Can't play much worse, so we can only improve.

I think it's coming home.

[Swan]

Very disrespectful to the Slovenians imo

Don't be ridiculous, all the "world class" talent we have, we should be walking over teams like Slovenia and Serbia.

[MTVN]

Unbeaten. Top of the group. First phase passed comfortably. Can't play much worse, so we can only improve.

I think it's coming home.

:clap1:

[Zizu]

Defence wins tournaments chaps


How ?

Goals win games


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[Mystic Mock]

Some fans sense of entitlement and disrespect of other teams is astonishing

It's because England should be creaming Slovenia.

If saying the truth is disrespectful and entitled, then I am those things.

After all there is a reason as to why the Slovenia players were celebrating the draw.

[MTVN]

Wow I've just checked and Slovenia haven't lost since November 2023!

9 games unbeaten including a win over Portugal

[Zizu]

In my view Palmer has to start over Saka ( who is unrecognisable) , Mainoo or Wharton instead of Gallagher and Eze or Gordon over Foden down the left


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Laurawoods and that Karen woman talking rubbish on TV. Both have no clue about men's football. F,CK off both of you and your woke paymasters

[Zizu]

Laurawoods and that Karen woman talking rubbish on TV. Both have no clue about men's football. F,CK off both of you and your woke paymasters


Karen Carney 150 international caps ( one airshot when she came on in SoccerAid) and an MBE for services to football !!


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[Alf]

England aren't beating the Netherlands if they can't break down Slovenia.

Unless a Blackburn beating Leicester 2-0 on the final day moment were to happen again, which I don't think that the Sport should be encouraged to do engineering like that for crap teams.Far too good for the Dutch.

The tricky bit is over. Getting through the group. Now it's knock-out football and that's when the best teams know how to win, and the cream rises to the top.

You don't want to be hitting your peak until it matters.

[Mystic Mock]

Wow I've just checked and Slovenia haven't lost since November 2023!

9 games unbeaten including a win over Portugal

Was that win over Portugal in a friendly or Nations League? Because if so then it doesn't really count imo, as nobody really tries that hard in either one of those things.

[Mystic Mock]

Laurawoods and that Karen woman talking rubbish on TV. Both have no clue about men's football. F,CK off both of you and your woke paymasters

They're not as bad as Martin Keown who thought that Mbappe was fouled in the penalty area in the earlier match.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Far too good for the Dutch.

The tricky bit is over. Getting through the group. Now it's knock-out football and that's when the best teams know how to win, and the cream rises to the top.

You don't want to be hitting your peak until it matters.

I will call the Sport's integrity into question if England were to beat Netherlands.

If you apparently can't beat Slovenia then you can't beat a team that's significantly better than Slovenia.

Especially when the England team is clearly taking their personal issues with Southgate out on the fans with these underwhelming results.

[Alf]

I will call the Sport's integrity into question if England were to beat Netherlands.

If you apparently can't beat Slovenia then you can't beat a team that's significantly better than Slovenia.Don't understand your problem. We're going strong in this tournament so far and we're only half way through.

The group stages are always difficult to navigate through, because it's early in tournament and everyone's playing from an even off. Those lesser teams are all enthusiastic and full of energy because this is their big chance to prove themselves on the big stage And the bigger teams also need to get some games and results under their belt before they hit their A game..

Come back to me when we get beat, because so far, we haven't.

[Mystic Mock]

Don't understand your problem. We're going strong in this tournament so far and we're only half way through.

The group stages are always difficult to navigate through, because it's early in tournament and everyone's playing from an even off. Those lesser teams are all enthusiastic and full of energy because this is their big chance to prove themselves on the big stage And the bigger teams also need to get some games and results under their belt before they hit their A game..

Come back to me when we get beat, because so far, we haven't.

We have failed to beat one of the weakest teams in the tournament, and a couple of games before that we barely beat another one of the weakest teams in the tournament.

A pattern is forming for England, where as Netherlands are going toe to toe with a really good Austria side, and let's be honest... They were robbed of the goal against France.

[Alf]

We have failed to beat one of the weakest teams in the tournament, and a couple of games before that we barely beat another one of the weakest teams in the tournament.

A pattern is forming for England, where as Netherlands are going toe to toe with a really good Austria side, and let's be honest... They were robbed of the goal against France.But if we win the final (which we're still in with a chance of doing, because we're still in the race) Then you won't care about this result or performance.

That is over. And we've done what's been required to do so far, so tonight means nothing now, it's in the past.

Be positive as we go on to the next game. Sunday is a different day

[Mystic Mock]

But if we win the final (which we're still in with a chance of doing, because we're still in the race) Then you won't care about this result or performance.

That is over. And we've done what's been required to do so far, so tonight means nothing now, it's in the past.

Be positive as we go on to the next game. Sunday is a different day

Football is all about momentum/form, and we can't beat Slovenia, how do you expect us to then beat Netherlands, France, Austria, Spain, Italy, or Portugal?

[Zizu]

How has Southgate ruined England’s front 4 who got 165 G/A last season.


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[Zizu]

So in three games he’s made just one change in the starting lineups .,


Thats one change and that was a failure ( Gallagher today)


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[Alf]

Football is all about momentum/form, and we can't beat Slovenia, how do you expect us to then beat Netherlands, France, Austria, Spain, Italy, or Portugal?Again, I don't see what your panic is?

You don't win the trophy after game 3. Football teams can't be at their brilliant best every single game. It's impossible. So far, they've done what they need to do and it's been a fairly comfortable journey through the first phase. We've never looked like we could be knocked out. We got an early victory. We picked up points in the next two.

Why are you scared of France? By your logic, France have been beat by one of the less fancied teams. We haven't been beat. We won our group in a canter. We haven't even got out of 2nd gear yet. This team has plenty more in it.

[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

Again, I don't see what your panic is?

You don't win the trophy after game 3. Football teams can't be at their brilliant best every single game. It's impossible. So far, they've done what they need to do and it's been a fairly comfortable journey through the first phase. We've never looked like we could be knocked out. We got an early victory. We picked up points in the next two.

Why are you scared of France? By your logic, France have been beat by one of the less fancied teams. We haven't been beat. We won our group in a canter. We haven't even got out of 2nd gear yet. This team has plenty more in it.

France were in a much harder group than England.

And England failed to beat Slovenia.

[Alf]

I've seen great England teams struggle to get out their group.

The 1990 World Cup team drew their first two games. Then got a lucky win in the third.

They scored a last minute extra time goal in the second round. They got battered in the quaters against Cameroon, but ended up scraping through with two penalties.

Then in the Semi-final, they probably should have won it and would have looked favourites to win the final. But we lost a penalty shoot-out.

International tournaments ain't a walk over. Every team wants to win. The team that times their run right will be in with a shot. You really want to be at your best in the semi-final and final. You just hope you can reach that stage. So far, we're still on track.

[Mystic Mock]

I've seen great England teams struggle to get out their group.

The 1990 World Cup team drew their first two games. Then got a lucky win in the third.

They scored a last minute extra time goal in the second round. They got battered in the quaters against Cameroon, but ended up scraping through with two penalties.

Then in the Semi-final, they probably should have won it and would have looked favourites to win the final. But we lost a penalty shoot-out.

International tournaments ain't a walk over. Every team wants to win. The team that times their run right will be in with a shot. You really want to be at your best in the semi-final and final. You just hope you can reach that stage. So far, we're still on track.

I'm willing to bet two things about the 1990 World Cup team that's just not there for the current squad.

1. They were probably putting in effort, and just delivering better performances throughout the tournament, which any Football fan can respect.

And 2. They were probably struggling against much better teams than Slovenia.

What I saw last night would be the equivalent of Man Utd struggling against Birmingham City.

[Alf]

I'm willing to bet two things about the 1990 World Cup team that's just not there for the current squad.

1. They were probably putting in effort, and just delivering better performances throughout the tournament, which any Football fan can respect.

And 2. They were probably struggling against much better teams than Slovenia.

What I saw last night would be the equivalent of Man Utd struggling against Birmingham City.Our players are putting in effort. If they wasn't, then they wouldn't be unbeaten, they'd be on their way home. Then you could feel disappointed.

I also would have liked a comfortable victory tonight. But it wasn't essential at this point, we were already through, technically. So I can see why the players were not out to do anything that would be a gamble for the rest of the tournament. They just did what they needed to do to progress in the tournament.

He had to play his first team because we wasn't sure if we were mathematical through, but those players won't be going full tilt with the chance of picking up cards and injuries. They just made sure they got through by getting the result that was required.

[Mystic Mock]

Our players are putting in effort. If they wasn't, then they wouldn't be unbeaten, they'd be on their way home. Then you could feel disappointed.

I also would have liked a comfortable victory tonight. But it wasn't essential at this point, we were already through, technically. So I can see why the players were not out to do anything that would be a gamble for the rest of the tournament. They just did what they needed to do to progress in the tournament.

He had to play his first team because we wasn't sure if we were mathematical through, but those players won't be going full tilt with the chance of picking up cards and injuries. They just made sure they got through by getting the result that was required.

Putting in effort imo is beating the teams that you're meant to be the better team, and that's the bare minimum in my view.

[Zizu]

Our players are putting in effort. If they wasn't, then they wouldn't be unbeaten, they'd be on their way home. Then you could feel disappointed.

I also would have liked a comfortable victory tonight. But it wasn't essential at this point, we were already through, technically. So I can see why the players were not out to do anything that would be a gamble for the rest of the tournament. They just did what they needed to do to progress in the tournament.

He had to play his first team because we wasn't sure if we were mathematical through, but those players won't be going full tilt with the chance of picking up cards and injuries. They just made sure they got through by getting the result that was required.


We WERE through the moment Spain beat Albania the night before !!

It was a basically a free hit .. just better to top the table to avoid other table topping teams .. but then France finished THIRD so that theory was flawed .

Given how useless and leggy they all looked against Denmark he should’ve played 10 reserves to see what they can do under this type of pressure


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[Cherie]

In my view Palmer has to start over Saka ( who is unrecognisable) , Mainoo or Wharton instead of Gallagher and Eze or Gordon over Foden down the left


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agree with all that, at least if they get beaten then the team will have given it a good go

[MTVN]

Still buzzing this morning after topping the group last night :dance:

[Zizu]

Still buzzing this morning after topping the group last night :dance:


Wish I shared your enthusiasm


Football for me is all about special moments and highlights but in our case we have Bellingham’s goal plus his first 30 minutes of the opening game ..and possibly all of Palmer’s passes and link up play when he came on for ten minutes last night


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[Zizu]

agree with all that, at least if they get beaten then the team will have given it a good go


Foden is supposedly this generational talent yet once again he flattered to deceive and his forward passes were going astray again ( the majority of his passes went back backwards)

In contrast Palmer’s passes were accurate and incisive AND forward .

Drop Foden and play Gordon ( who I don’t care for but we didn’t bring Grealish) or move Bellingham alongside Rice and move Goden to the number 10 slot ( Gordon on the left)

Drop Saka ( who looks exhausted) and play Palmer .

Last night I would have rested Bellingham and Rice but replaced them with Wharton and Mainoo


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[Mystic Mock]

Wish I shared your enthusiasm


Football for me is all about special moments and highlights but in our case we have Bellingham’s goal plus his first 30 minutes of the opening game ..and possibly all of Palmer’s passes and link up play when he came on for ten minutes last night


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I loved it when Palmer passed straight to the Slovenian goalkeeper.

[Zizu]

I loved it when Palmer passed straight to the Slovenian goalkeeper.


That’s harsh to highlight his one mistake

He was playing mind games he went for bottom right and didn’t catch the ball right .. the keeper and everyone else expected Palmer to bend it into the top left corner


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[Mystic Mock]

That’s harsh to highlight his one mistake

He was playing mind games he went for bottom right and didn’t catch the ball right .. the keeper and everyone else expected Palmer to bend it into the top left corner


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Just like every other England player out on that pitch last night.

And Southgate can't be blamed for that.

[Zizu]

Just like every other England player out on that pitch last night.

And Southgate can't be blamed for that.


Of course he can ..he’s picking the players and instructing them what to do, where to play , substitutions etc

Tournament after tournament he shows himself to be tactically inept


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[Nicky91]

Of course he can ..he os picking the players and instructing them what to do, where to play , substitutions etc

Tournament after tournament he shows himself to be tactically inept


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the worst coach this tournament


Tiny Tool Tedesco or Clown Southgate, or the Chooka Train Koeman


difficult choice there LOL :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Of course he can ..he os picking the players and instructing them what to do, where to play , substitutions etc

Tournament after tournament he shows himself to be tactically inept


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Struggling to control a ball, or shooting less accurate than Sheffield Utd isn't Southgate's fault imo.

I do apologize to Alf and MTVN for being a bit short with them earlier, Football is only a game at the end of the day.

And I do apologize if I came off a bit short with anybody else on here too.

[bots]

it's a bit difficult to get motivated when they have never been down in a match and they were sitting top of the group without really trying, knowing a draw would secure their top place. They now have a draw, similar to what they had at the world cup where all the big name teams are on the other side of the draw. It really doesn't get easier than that :laugh:

[MTVN]

Struggling to control a ball, or shooting less accurate than Sheffield Utd isn't Southgate's fault imo.

I do apologize to Alf and MTVN for being a bit short with them earlier, Football is only a game at the end of the day.

And I do apologize if I came off a bit short with anybody else on here too.

No apology needed to me Mock but perhaps an apology to the proud people of Slovenia

[bots]

And as Euro 2024 groups go, Group C ranks down with the worst ever. It was the first Euros group with five matches ending in draws and the first Euros group with no teams scoring more than one goal in a game.

:laugh:

[Zizu]

And I do apologize if I came off a bit short too.

We don’t mind you being short


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[Zizu]

it's a bit difficult to get motivated when they have never been down in a match and they were sitting top of the group without really trying, knowing a draw would secure their top place. They now have a draw, similar to what they had at the world cup where all the big name teams are on the other side of the draw. It really doesn't get easier than that :laugh:


Yep

..: and Southgate will proceed to snatch defeat from the jaws of success

He will manage to balls everything up as per usual


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[Gusto Brunt]

Rubbish match against last night. England couldn't score against a kiddies school team.

[Mystic Mock]

No apology needed to me Mock but perhaps an apology to the proud people of Slovenia

I honestly don't mean it as a disrespect to Slovenia, as after all they're not going to turn down the opportunity to go through to the last 16.

But I do expect England to be beating Slovenia, I just do.

It's like how I'm expecting Blues to be a top 10 club in League One, and how I would expect Man City to be contending for the Premier League title.

[Mystic Mock]

We don’t mind you being short


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Thanks Zizu.:blush:

[arista]

Sunday

England are playing Slovakia

Predictions England are to lose?

[Zizu]

Sunday

England are playing Slovakia

Predictions England are to lose?


Bookies reckon England have by far the easiest match plus the easiest side of the draw - the final beckons Southgate who gets lucky in yet another tournament as regards the fixtures.

Worryingly Marc Guéhi has gone public with the view that both sides of the draw are equally problematic !!

No wonder Southgate likes him .,

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[Zizu]

Soooo Rice and Trippier both miss training

Shaw claims he’s ready to play !!


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[Zizu]

Foden has gone home to get patterns shaved in his head and a new tattoo saying ..

“ Der Fußball kommt nach Deutschland “ on his forehead .


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[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c6169809-7102-4789-b9e4-e480c014139d.png

[Zizu]

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He should grow a quick goatee and colour his hair and chin fluff red !!


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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

Soooooo given that the England team has been leaked out 24 to 48 hours prior to all of the past 10 games or so …. why hasn’t Southgate used this to our favour and changed things around on the day ….

Better still given the leaks thus far have been 100% accurate why the feck has he not ratted out the culprit given we don’t know what else is being leaked ?!


The other teams are on record saying that we are easy to play against as everything is so predictable not just team selection


Incidentally in Sunday’s game we will play Mainoo in place of Gallagher


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[Crimson Dynamo]

This England team so far is giving Joe Biden a run for his money for the worst performance in June

they have stunk out the Euros and as ever Safgate is the problem

[Zizu]

The Italy manager has apparently made sweeping changes, playing guys who weren’t really thought of as starters but he frustrated with the first three performances

Are you watching Gareth !!


Even if Italy comes unstuck and gets kicked out it still shows courage and it wouldn’t mean that we would necessarily lose as well


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[arista]

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[arista]

ITV1HD

Half Time
Eng 0
SVK 1

[arista]

68mins

No change in the score

[AnnieK]

We are ****. That is all I have to say

[arista]

ET

Eng 2

SVK 1

[arista]

We are ****. That is all I have to say


No

2-1 to us now

[Vanessa]

We can do this! Come on!

[Zizu]

We are all posting on the other thread !!


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

We won't be able to get away with a performance like every game that we've played so far, against Switzerland as they'll win if we play like that.

[Zizu]

We won't be able to get away with a performance like every game that we've played so far, against Switzerland as they'll win if we play like that.


They are arguably one of the top three in form teams with Spain and Germany


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[Zizu]

Stuart Pearce has said that he can mo longer defend his long time friend and colleague as worries that we are getting worse each game !


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[Zizu]

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[Mystic Mock]

They are arguably one of the top three in form teams with Spain and Germany


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Them or Portugal are probably third best on form I think.

[Zizu]

Them or Portugal are probably third best on form I think.


Yeah
Top four Spain / Germany / Portugal and the Swiss


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[Mystic Mock]

Has anyone seen this really nutty YouTube video.:joker:

6pilQkBeFdk

But more than the video itself, read the comments section, I don't think that I have ever seen so much racism before.

[Beso]

England will be a different team when they actually play a team that want to attack them.

[Zizu]

England will be a different team when they actually play a team that want to attack them.


What a scary thought

Our strengths are midfield where we’ve been outplayed every game and our strikers / forwards who have been totally ineffective.


Our defence was always going to be our problem …


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[Beso]

Bumplestiltskin.

[Nicky91]

so group C was the group of death after all


with the soon to be crowned european champions (hopefully) England in this one


:D