FAO James. Poll now attached. Please vote.

[Kate!]

Hi James

Just wondered if Tibb is in your long term plans. Are we going to keep going for the foreseeable future. I sincerely hope so. I'm only concerned in case it ever ends and we'll have no way to keep in touch with others? Is there any way people who want to do so join a database and give you their mobile numbers, so you could put us all back together somehow? Just a thought.

Regards

Kate.

[Zizu]

Plus Discord


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[arista]

Plus Discord





Nothing like this Forum

[Kate!]

Nothing like this Forum

No obviously not but we'd need something?

I don't want to lose touch with a lot of people. It just a what if question Arista, don't stress.

[James]

Yeah, I will keep it going for the foreseeable future. There is a cost to running it, and it doesn't earn any money back at the moment, but it is manageable.

I have thought about giving people a way to enter an alternative contact method (eg. phone number) for the purposes of logging in if you can't access your account.

[Kate!]

Yeah, I will keep it going for the foreseeable future. There is a cost to running it, and it doesn't earn any money back at the moment, but it is manageable.

I have thought about giving people a way to enter an alternative contact method (eg. phone number) for the purposes of logging in if you can't access your account.

Well yes that is a good idea but it doesn't address the issue of how we could all stay in touch if Tibb God forbid was to close?

[Kate!]

Also if I could just add James, I for one would be very willing to pay a reasonable subscription fee for the use of the forum, how do others feel about this? It would offset James costs. X

[Niamh.]

Also if I could just add James, I for one would be very willing to pay a reasonable subscription fee for the use of the forum, how do others feel about this? It would offset James costs. X

Probably wouldn't be good to have the whole forum with a subscription fee, it might turn people off but maybe James could have a secret section of the forum or something and anyone who paid a sub gained entry?

[Kate!]

Probably wouldn't be good to have the whole forum with a subscription fee, it might turn people off but maybe James could have a secret section of the forum or something and anyone who paid a sub gained entry?

Yes something like that Niamh. Then it's optional. I'd be prepared to pay a small sub either monthly or annually. The forum would still be free to access for us all the way you have described it x

[Niamh.]

Yes something like that Niamh. Then it's optional. I'd be prepared to pay a small sub either monthly or annually. The forum would still be free to access for us all the way you have described it x

Yeah I would too

[Kate!]

I'll add a poll to the thread, see what the general consensus is?

[arista]

Look,
I am happy they have my email.

It is not like I am a stranger.

[Beso]

Also if I could just add James, I for one would be very willing to pay a reasonable subscription fee for the use of the forum, how do others feel about this? It would offset James costs. X

If you think I'm paying for my posts to be deleted you can think again.

[arista]

Yes something like that Niamh. Then it's optional. I'd be prepared to pay a small sub either monthly or annually. The forum would still be free to access for us all the way you have described it x

No
the whole point of this good forum,
is it is Free.

[Kate!]

If you think I'm paying for my posts to be deleted you can think again.

That's your choice though Parm. Fair enough. It would not be obligatory. We'd all be able to choose whether to subscribe or not.

[Kate!]

No
the whole point of this good forum,
is it is Free.

It would still be free. Its optional. I have explained this.

[smudgie]

Surely you could pm people and ask them if they like you enough to add to their Facebook or whatever else is available.:shrug:

[Kate!]

Surely you could pm people and ask them if they like you enough to add to their Facebook or whatever else is available.:shrug:

I don't like Facebook. Plus it's not as private as Tibb.

[smudgie]

I don't like Facebook. Plus it's not as private as Tibb.

Just in case tibb isn’t here anymore.
Not really a big Facebook fan either but it’s handy to keep in touch.

[Kate!]

Can people please vote in the poll

[Swan]

When i joined The Wrestling Forum 300 years ago (don't go on there now). You had to pay an entry fee or something. It was £25 for lifetime membership, or £15 a year i think. But there were still free areas of the forum. But like most said, i'd happily contribute in the future if needed to keep the forum going etc

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have Kaz and Smudgies only fans to pay for I'm not spunking more cash to Tibb

:oh:

[Cherie]

If you think I'm paying for my posts to be deleted you can think again.

I would pay to have your posts deleted :hehe:

[MTVN]

Imagine the messiness of a TiBB group WhatsApp chat

[Zizu]

Nothing like this Forum


Not instead of the forum

A safety net ..


Just somewhere we could all keep in touch if this forum collapses as many are … without warning in many cases


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[Zizu]

If you think I'm paying for my posts to be deleted you can think again.


:)


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[arista]

It would still be free. Its optional. I have explained this.


I would do a One-Off Payment.


But will Tibb allow that?


I tied on the Guardian
to make a one-off payment
they refused
wanted it every month.


That made me Angry

A one off payment
is bloody better than Nothing


So Die Guardian

[arista]

Typical Poll
Nothing on a Kind One Off Payment

[Zizu]

Surely you could pm people and ask them if they like you enough to add to their Facebook or whatever else is available.:shrug:


Please anything but Fakebook !!


I refuse to use that piece of sh1te


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[arista]

Stupid Poll

Says Please Vote

Sure if One Off Payment is added

[Beso]

I would pay to have your posts deleted :hehe:

I will set up a monthly fee for you and do all the work myself, if you want.

2.50 per month..cheap as chips.

[arista]

Please anything but Fakebook !!


I refuse to use that piece of sh1te



That's OK to blank it.


I have many Professional contacts on it
so it is special to me.

[Kate!]

Stupid Poll

Says Please Vote

Sure if One Off Payment is added

Yes I didn't include that option. But it could be added?

[Kate!]

Bump for the poll question

[Mystic Mock]

Imagine the messiness of a TiBB group WhatsApp chat

I would wonder what Nicky91 would say on there.:laugh:

And just to add, I do think that we all will need an alternative method to stay in touch with each other, because if TIBB ever shuts down, we wouldn't really be able to communicate with each other again.

[The Slim Reaper]

Have I missed another part of this discussion, other than this thread?

As to the questions asked by the poll, no, I wouldn't pay anything to keep this place going. There are times when I would have gladly contributed, but the forum is a comprehensive lesson in mismanagement.

Failure to address long term issues of bigotry have seen lots of members leave unnecessarily. Lots of those members didn't particularly like me; in some cases I felt that was a shame, in others the feelings were pretty mutual, and some I just really liked. But they brought different perspectives, and created movement. Currently, I can check in every couple of days/weeks/months/whatever, and I know one of the 5 post templates of LT will be spread across the forum (Muslims/black fathers/blacks in general/trans/communist lefties). TIBB expected young people to stick around after BB to read this stream of nonsense. Not hating on LT, either, because just like Aesop's scorpion - it's just his nature, and it's not his fault it's been not only allowed to happen, but actively defended by those with the power of Admin. I actually think LT would be a good dude to anyone that knew him IRL, and I also don't believe he believes half the stuff he posts - it's just for reaction.

I pointed out years ago, that unless this was addressed tibb would end up being little more than a tibb version of MSM for the permanently aggrieved by modernity, and well here we are.

The Sandra Bullock birdbox infraction system would also have to be scrapped, because no one would give £10/month (as an example) to tibb, to then be banned for 2 of those weeks.

There was no need for tibb to be where it is now, and if it is close to going under, then that's because of choices that were purposefully made.

It's just the free market doing it's thang :smug:

[arista]

[but the forum is a comprehensive lesson in mismanagement.]

Nasty Comment Slim.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh I don't know about paying for TIBB, but I definitely am up for alternative ideas for if the site does shut down one day.

And I get where Slim Reaper is coming from to a point, but tbf to LT I would say that I think that any of us that regularly post on here bare some responsibility for the Forum's decline in popularity, because for some reason or another we're not drawing new people to the site, and have even lost members over time.

Yes controversial Political topics definitely doesn't help, which I feel like a lot of us have contributed to that problem tbf.

And I don't think that we've necessarily managed ourselves very well since BB ended on Channel 5, we've kind of struggled to deal with BB's lack of mainstream popularity.

I still wonder if we should rebrand as a general Reality TV Forum, what do you guys think?

[arista]

Big Brother is back on ITV

And rebrand
not needed

[Crimson Dynamo]

SLim if you want a forum that doesn't infract you for making constant personal comments
about members, where you can discuss a niche unpopular Marxist view of the world and
that does not discuss the popular news items that all other media news sites are talking
about whey not join this facebook group ?

https://www.facebook.com/p/The-Marxist-Forum-100067730013502/

[Crimson Dynamo]

At the end of the day you cannot charge people for their own content!

[bots]

i would be happy to contribute to tibb hosting costs if it becomes necessary

[Crimson Dynamo]

Problem solved. Bots will pay out of his Colonialisation and white privilege pension

:dance:

[The Slim Reaper]

SLim if you want a forum that doesn't infract you for making constant personal comments
about members, where you can discuss a niche unpopular Marxist view of the world and
that does not discuss the popular news items that all other media news sites are talking
about whey not join this facebook group ?

https://www.facebook.com/p/The-Marxist-Forum-100067730013502/

Template No.5

It's too easy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Template No.5

It's too easy.

blah blah

"let me tell you whats all wrong with the forum and why none of it relates to me"


google translate - "I cant understand why I am not more popular and people don't marvel at my deep thinking?"

we get returning members ranting like this every couple of months m8

plus ca change

[The Slim Reaper]

blah blah

"let me tell you whats all wrong with the forum and why none of it relates to me"


google translate - "I cant understand why I am not more popular and people don't marvel at my deep thinking?"

we get returning members ranting like this every couple of months m8

plus ca change

I was talking about tibb from a business perspective, and why there's very clear and obvious reasons for the site not doing as well. Namely, throwing over half of your previous customers over board to protect a tiny fraction of reactionaries, that the site is now almost exclusively wedded to, will never ever be remotely close to the front page of any business plan.

The fact that you've had to try and make that about me wanting to be more popular, shows exactly why a grown up discussion isn't for you, lil homie :smug:

[James]

Have I missed another part of this discussion, other than this thread?

As to the questions asked by the poll, no, I wouldn't pay anything to keep this place going. There are times when I would have gladly contributed, but the forum is a comprehensive lesson in mismanagement.

Failure to address long term issues of bigotry have seen lots of members leave unnecessarily. Lots of those members didn't particularly like me; in some cases I felt that was a shame, in others the feelings were pretty mutual, and some I just really liked. But they brought different perspectives, and created movement. Currently, I can check in every couple of days/weeks/months/whatever, and I know one of the 5 post templates of LT will be spread across the forum (Muslims/black fathers/blacks in general/trans/communist lefties). TIBB expected young people to stick around after BB to read this stream of nonsense. Not hating on LT, either, because just like Aesop's scorpion - it's just his nature, and it's not his fault it's been not only allowed to happen, but actively defended by those with the power of Admin. I actually think LT would be a good dude to anyone that knew him IRL, and I also don't believe he believes half the stuff he posts - it's just for reaction.

I pointed out years ago, that unless this was addressed tibb would end up being little more than a tibb version of MSM for the permanently aggrieved by modernity, and well here we are.

The Sandra Bullock birdbox infraction system would also have to be scrapped, because no one would give £10/month (as an example) to tibb, to then be banned for 2 of those weeks.

There was no need for tibb to be where it is now, and if it is close to going under, then that's because of choices that were purposefully made.

It's just the free market doing it's thang :smug:

I agree with some of your points on the political posts but you've got to remember that Big Brother was off the air for five years, and people were looking for something else to talk about.

It could have been (and a lot of it was) about other TV, general and personal topics, but they also chose to post about political issues, and politics is divisive.

It probably not for the best that we have it on here, and it obviously puts some people off it, but it is tricky to say we are going to disallow it and drawing the line is tricky.

I am pleasantly surprised that the forum has kept going, even when Big Brother wasn't on, and when it came back others returned. Also when I think about it the friendships and community that have been created over the entire history of the forum is something to be proud of I think.

Another thing is people might not be aware of is all the drama that has gone on over the years, not just in the last few. Ridiculous stuff in some cases.


SLim if you want a forum that doesn't infract you for making constant personal comments
about members, where you can discuss a niche unpopular Marxist view of the world and
that does not discuss the popular news items that all other media news sites are talking
about whey not join this facebook group ?

https://www.facebook.com/p/The-Marxist-Forum-100067730013502/

Posts like that ^ don't help. We want to keep people around, not send them elsewhere.

[Cherie]

Well I love TiBB its the only place I post, I am not on any other forums, at times I think people take it a bit too seriously I can add myself to that list, but not so much any more :laugh: I find it funny that LT is constantly singled out for comment, say what you like at least he starts threads and contributes, whether people like that contribution or not is neither here nor there, people say they don't want an echo chamber but I think that is exactly what they want with only their own views coming back at them

Its amazing that the forum has survived BB being off the air for so long :clap1:

[MTVN]

Yeah I'd say the biggest factor in the forum losing members is that it's dedicated to a TV show that everyone thought had been cancelled for good nearly six years ago. When that happened we were only going to lose members and not gain them and its natural for some people to fall away, life changes after all. Traditional forums like this are also a declining form of social media and most people use other websites and apps to discuss things these days

I agree with James that it was a pleasant surprise that the forum stayed active after C5 axed BB and it was great to see a lot of people return for the ITV series. It's also true that this place endured off the scales drama for years when it had a lot bigger membership. The toxicity was way higher than it has been in the last couple of years

At the end of the day forums are defined and sustained by their membership and everyone is an individual with their own views and posting habits. It's not for us to strictly control everything on here and try and moderate everything to fit a certain mold.

[smudgie]

I have Kaz and Smudgies only fans to pay for I'm not spunking more cash to Tibb

:oh:

It’s so much appreciated :hee:

[The Slim Reaper]

I agree with some of your points on the political posts but you've got to remember that Big Brother was off the air for five years, and people were looking for something else to talk about.

It could have been (and a lot of it was) about other TV, general and personal topics, but they also chose to post about political issues, and politics is divisive.

It probably not for the best that we have it on here, and it obviously puts some people off it, but it is tricky to say we are going to disallow it and drawing the line is tricky.

I am pleasantly surprised that the forum has kept going, even when Big Brother wasn't on, and when it came back others returned. Also when I think about it the friendships and community that have been created over the entire history of the forum is something to be proud of I think.

Another thing is people might not be aware of is all the drama that has gone on over the years, not just in the last few. Ridiculous stuff in some cases.

.

I'm not really taking about political posts, I'm talking about the stream of abuse thrown at minority communities on a near continual basis. If anyone goes into a political thread and gets upset because of political name calling, then that's on them (to an extent), but if I'm a new member just browsing the forum, and I see a constant stream of black people are stabby stabby, or Muslims just want to blow everyone up, or this country lets in the trash, then that's on the site.

I feel it's partly because of long standing forum rules. As another example. lets say Ammi calls me a clown and got an infraction for it, but lets say she calls me that because every single one of my posts were about black fathers being absent, then surely Ammi is in the right? I feel there's a disconnect between what's really harmful for the reputation of the site (the bigotry), and what the site perceives as harmful - bit of stupid name calling.

I don't think anyone has left the site (although I could be wrong and stand corrected) because they didn't like how the left/right were being spoken about in the political section, but I know lots have left the site because of how their personal minority communities have been spoken about, and the tacit approval provided by TIBBS failure to address these issues.

[Ammi]

…I don’t think that there is any longer term member here… (other than smudgie…)…that hasn’t gone through pro TiBB and anti TiBB times…sometimes we’ve loved it/ sometimes not so much and we’ve all moaned and groaned and griped and then groaned some more…it’s good that we haven’t had all of the worse times at the same time…but we somehow haven’t and here we still are…

[Crimson Dynamo]

I mean if its not for you leave but don't keep coming back moaning

its so dreadfully tiresome

https://fi.somethingawful.com/safs/smilies/8/7/lemon.003.png

[Cherie]

There are 131 active members not bad for off season :laugh:

[Niamh.]

…I don’t think that there is any longer term member here… (other than smudgie…)…that hasn’t gone through pro TiBB and anti TiBB times…sometimes we’ve loved it/ sometimes not do much and we’ve all moaned and groaned and griped and then groaned some more…it’s good that we haven’t had all of the worse times at the same time…but we somehow haven’t and here we still are…

This is the truth. For as long as I've been here (15 years bloody hell :skull: ) People have been complaining that this time is the worst of times and looking back with rose tinted glasses at times gone by. As others have pointed out, Forums are a dying breed, BB was cancelled for years, the fact that the forum is still going is an achievement in itself and James doesn't get enough credit :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I remember when Tibb was all fields, as far as the eye could see

And you could leave your door open

There was always a Mod patrolling every thread and if you stepped out of line you got a thick ear

Now there are hardly any Mods and the ones that are are stuck in an office with mountains of paperwork with rainbow lanyards and soya tea

:oh:

[Cherie]

I remember when Tibb was all fields, as far as the eye could see

And you could leave your door open

There was always a Mod patrolling every thread and if you stepped out of line you got a thick ear

Now there are hardly any Mods and the ones that are are stuck in an office with mountains of paperwork with rainbow lanyards and soya tea

:oh:

and this is why we love LT, he will always pop up with a funny gem such as this :laugh:

and the Kaz and Smudgie Only Fans post

[Swan]

I guess Serious Debates gets too much at times, and the threads about that certain ginger bloke and his American wife are literally hard work :laugh: But there are so many little fun pockets of the forum. Chats and Games, Movies, Music, Sports are all great. Zizu driving me mad in the football threads is great too :joker:

[Glenn.]

I definitely don’t think the place is worth subscribing to.

[Zizu]

I guess Serious Debates gets too much at times, and the threads about that certain ginger bloke and his American wife are literally hard work :laugh: But there are so many little fun pockets of the forum. Chats and Games, Movies, Music, Sports are all great. Zizu driving me mad in the football threads is great too :joker:


Thanks for mention

I think

LOL


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[Zizu]

I definitely don’t think the place is worth subscribing to.


What !!

You have made virtually 20,000 posts suggesting you like the place ??


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[Zizu]

This is the truth. For as long as I've been here (15 years bloody hell :skull: ) People have been complaining that this time is the worst of times and looking back with rose tinted glasses at times gone by. As others have pointed out, Forums are a dying breed, BB was cancelled for years, the fact that the forum is still going is an achievement in itself and James doesn't get enough credit :love:


Thats fair


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[Cherie]

What !!

You have made virtually 20,000 posts suggesting you like the place ??


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:joker:

[Glenn.]

There are 131 active members not bad for off season :laugh:

Where are they all then? Why aren’t they engaging? Posting etc.

People have literally been driven away from this forum and no one can deny that. That is a fact. A hard fact no one seems to want to admit.

[Mitchell]

You asked for opinions, and people have varying opinions, 10 people (and Zizu) have said they wouldn’t pay, not just Glenn, he’s as entitled to an opinion as the rest of you.

My opinion is along the lines of Glenn’s, but also very similar to Slim’s, I barely post as it is, it used to feel like a big community, and it’s lost that feel a lot, this days it’s a smaller one. (Due to various reasons, some that have been covered, but not exclusive to that)

I used to play a lot of the games, and there’d always be different casts, whereas now every game seems to be exactly the same people playing, so I’m never really inspired to sign up to any of them, or to post much.

I know after posting the other week, a few people said it’s nice to see me around, I’ve not left, I’ve been on the forum most days, I just don’t see any topics I want to interact with, and I know that I could make one, but I’m also not hugely inspired to do that either, so I wouldn’t pay for it.

Whilst I have made some very good friendships off this website, I speak to almost all of them on a different platform now, it’s only really Ammi that I message on here. (And even then, when she left the forum I spoke to her elsewhere)

[Cherie]

You asked for opinions, and people have varying opinions, 10 people (and Zizu) have said they wouldn’t pay, not just Glenn, he’s as entitled to an opinion as the rest of you.

My opinion is along the lines of Glenn’s, but also very similar to Slim’s, I barely post as it is, it used to feel like a big community, and it’s lost that feel a lot, this days it’s a smaller one. (Due to various reasons, some that have been covered, but not exclusive to that)

I used to play a lot of the games, and there’d always be different casts, whereas now every game seems to be exactly the same people playing, so I’m never really inspired to sign up to any of them, or to post much.

I know after posting the other week, a few people said it’s nice to see me around, I’ve not left, I’ve been on the forum most days, I just don’t see any topics I want to interact with, and I know that I could make one, but I’m also not hugely inspired to do that either, so I wouldn’t pay for it.

Whilst I have made some very good friendships off this website, I speak to almost all of them on a different platform now, it’s only really Ammi that I message on here. (And even then, when she left the forum I spoke to her elsewhere)

Delighted

[Mystic Mock]

You asked for opinions, and people have varying opinions, 10 people (and Zizu) have said they wouldn’t pay, not just Glenn, he’s as entitled to an opinion as the rest of you.

My opinion is along the lines of Glenn’s, but also very similar to Slim’s, I barely post as it is, it used to feel like a big community, and it’s lost that feel a lot, this days it’s a smaller one. (Due to various reasons, some that have been covered, but not exclusive to that)

I used to play a lot of the games, and there’d always be different casts, whereas now every game seems to be exactly the same people playing, so I’m never really inspired to sign up to any of them, or to post much.

I know after posting the other week, a few people said it’s nice to see me around, I’ve not left, I’ve been on the forum most days, I just don’t see any topics I want to interact with, and I know that I could make one, but I’m also not hugely inspired to do that either, so I wouldn’t pay for it.

Whilst I have made some very good friendships off this website, I speak to almost all of them on a different platform now, it’s only really Ammi that I message on here. (And even then, when she left the forum I spoke to her elsewhere)

Do you think maybe having a new sub-Forum would rejuvenate your interest in the Forum?

[Mitchell]

Do you think maybe having a new sub-Forum would rejuvenate your interest in the Forum?

I don’t think so if I’m honest, I think an influx of new and interesting members, as well as the return of some of the nice ex TiBBers would probably inspire me more. I remember a real change when Kate originally returned.


I’m going to take part in the gorgeous Ammi’s pointless game, and if Niamh brings back top answers, they’re always fun to do, but I think that’s basically it for now, I think forums are naturally dying anyway, which is a shame as I like the format of a forum with topics a lot more than the newer themes of discords.

[Mitchell]

(I very much like the new mention and quote feature though James, very well done.)

[Zizu]

You asked for opinions, and people have varying opinions, 10 people (and Zizu) have said they wouldn’t pay, not just Glenn, he’s as entitled to an opinion as the rest of you.

My opinion is along the lines of Glenn’s, but also very similar to Slim’s, I barely post as it is, it used to feel like a big community, and it’s lost that feel a lot, this days it’s a smaller one. (Due to various reasons, some that have been covered, but not exclusive to that)

I used to play a lot of the games, and there’d always be different casts, whereas now every game seems to be exactly the same people playing, so I’m never really inspired to sign up to any of them, or to post much.

I know after posting the other week, a few people said it’s nice to see me around, I’ve not left, I’ve been on the forum most days, I just don’t see any topics I want to interact with, and I know that I could make one, but I’m also not hugely inspired to do that either, so I wouldn’t pay for it.

Whilst I have made some very good friendships off this website, I speak to almost all of them on a different platform now, it’s only really Ammi that I message on here. (And even then, when she left the forum I spoke to her elsewhere)




In all honesty I wouldn’t mind paying a nominal fee of £1 a month - thats what I pay for the Pro Version of TapaTalk


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[Ammi]

…I don’t really have time for much of a post as I’m rushing off but…I do understand what Slim is saying in that he’s responding to and giving some reasoning as to why a paid subscription for forum/TiBB use wouldn’t be something he would consider…I mean, that makes complete sense, doesn’t it…for things that we choose to subscribe to…we would hope for those things to align to us and with us …that would be a ‘good business model’ type thing, as he says…