USA : Black Man changes his name to get a job

[arista]

[Michigan man who was offered job
interview after changing his name
on his resumé sues for discrimination]

[He applied with the alias John Jebrowski,
keeping all of his work history and skills
the same, he says he received an interview
call from the management.]

A Lawyer on CNN HD USA on UK TV
said this is now very common.



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/11/05/87188687-13622347-image-a-24_1720671970264.jpg
[Dwight Jackson, 27, has sued the owners
of Shinola Hotel claiming that they kept
rejecting his resume because he was black]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13622347/Dwight-Jackson-Detroit-racism-lawsuit-Shinola-Hotel.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Guy sounds like a jerk

[Liam-]

It’s a real, proven thing that companies avoid giving interviews to people with non-white sounding names, hopefully they get sued for a lot of money as punishment for their clear racism

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s a real, proven thing that companies avoid giving interviews to people with non-white sounding names, hopefully they get sued for a lot of money as punishment for their clear racism

Proven by who?

[Crimson Dynamo]

The race and Hispanic origin distribution of the people with the name DWIGHT
is 77.9% White, 2.2% Hispanic origin, 16.3% Black, 1.3% Asian or Pacific
Islander, 1.5% Two or More Races, and 0.7% American Indian or Alaskan
Native.


The race and Hispanic origin distribution of the people with the name JACKSON
is 72.8% White, 3.8% Hispanic origin, 15.1% Black, 5.9% Asian or Pacific
Islander, 1.6% Two or More Races, and 0.7% American Indian or Alaskan
Native.

https://www.mynamestats.com/First-Names/D/DW/DWIGHT/index.html

[Oliver_W]

Some high profile jobs or even (in the media such as the BBC) low level jobs all but say "straight white men need not apply", neither situation is okay.

[Alf]

Everytime I didn't make it to the interview stage for a job was definitely because I is White.

[Oliver_W]

Not being funny but ... it's only a job in a hotel. Why does he care so much?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not being funny but ... it's only a job in a hotel. Why does he care so much?

he doesn't, he thinks he can sue and make money by not working hard in life, but does not have the intelligence to see why he cant

sad

[Ray.]

Sue, or make money on the college talk/podcast circuit by parading himself as a fake political martyr of some sort.

[Oliver_W]

he doesn't, he thinks he can sue and make money by not working hard in life, but does not have the intelligence to see why he cant

sad

Sue, or make money on the college talk/podcast circuit by parading himself as a fake political martyr of some sort.

There are worse grifts out there tbh.

[GiRTh]

The race and Hispanic origin distribution of the people with the name DWIGHT
is 77.9% White, 2.2% Hispanic origin, 16.3% Black, 1.3% Asian or Pacific
Islander, 1.5% Two or More Races, and 0.7% American Indian or Alaskan
Native.


The race and Hispanic origin distribution of the people with the name JACKSON
is 72.8% White, 3.8% Hispanic origin, 15.1% Black, 5.9% Asian or Pacific
Islander, 1.6% Two or More Races, and 0.7% American Indian or Alaskan
Native.

https://www.mynamestats.com/First-Names/D/DW/DWIGHT/index.htmlUsing your source, the name Jackson is 53% likely to be black. You're not changing the results to suit you are you?

On this basis, the people with the name JACKSON have a higher likelyhood of being Black and a lower likelyhood of being Hispanic origin, White.


https://www.mynamestats.com/Last-Names/J/JA/JACKSON/index.html

This happens all the time and even though LT wants proof its not so easy to come by. Using LT's source the name Jackson suggest a black person 53% of the time so LT has confirmed the theory. :thumbs:

[GiRTh]

Sue, or make money on the college talk/podcast circuit by parading himself as a fake political martyr of some sort.How is he a political martyr. Are you just chatting crap to chat crap? :shrug:

[GiRTh]

Guy sounds like a jerkYou seem to make quite negative assumptions. Why?

[GiRTh]

LT used Jackson as a first name and that why the stats were wrong. Very sloppy.

If I were to go thru more of LT's posts would I find further 'inaccuracies'. :shrug:

[Beso]

Guy sounds like a jerk

He should have called himself dwight jackoffski.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He should have called himself dwight jackoffski.

No wonder noone wants to give him a job!

[AnnieK]

There have been lots of studies on this here un the UK. Making your name sound more Anglo saxons usually get you and interview in less time than you do if you have a foreign sounding name....


https://www.beapplied.com/post/whats-in-a-name-name-discrimination-and-hiring-in-the-uk#:~:text=UK%20government%2C%202012%20%E2%80%93%2 0an%20all,whose%20names%20sounded%20more%20foreign .
From the article:

UK government, 2012 – an all parliamentary group study found that women from ethnic minorities who “whitened” their names or changed them to sound more Anglo-Saxon had to apply for half as many jobs to receive an interview invitation as those whose names sounded more foreign.

· BBC’s Inside Out London, 2017 – even with a small sample size of two candidates and 100 job opportunities, this study reflected the same pattern of discrimination. While both candidates were equally qualified, “Adam” received 12 interview offers while “Mohamed” was only offered four.

[Beso]

Sorry, but it's how it should be..

Britains first.

[GiRTh]

Sorry, but it's how it should be..

Britains first.:laugh::laugh:

Problem is that its in the USA

[GiRTh]

There have been lots of studies on this here un the UK. Making your name sound more Anglo saxons usually get you and interview in less time than you do if you have a foreign sounding name....


https://www.beapplied.com/post/whats-in-a-name-name-discrimination-and-hiring-in-the-uk#:~:text=UK%20government%2C%202012%20%E2%80%93%2 0an%20all,whose%20names%20sounded%20more%20foreign .
From the article:

UK government, 2012 – an all parliamentary group study found that women from ethnic minorities who “whitened” their names or changed them to sound more Anglo-Saxon had to apply for half as many jobs to receive an interview invitation as those whose names sounded more foreign.

· BBC’s Inside Out London, 2017 – even with a small sample size of two candidates and 100 job opportunities, this study reflected the same pattern of discrimination. While both candidates were equally qualified, “Adam” received 12 interview offers while “Mohamed” was only offered four.Unfortunately, your sources aren't great and we know how some forum members like to discredit any source that contradicts them. I like that LT's source actually backs up the arguments.

[Beso]

:laugh::laugh:

Problem is that its in the USA

Oh!


Good luck dwight, you are gonna need it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah itust be the white people at fault. I mean in black or Asian countries I bet white names never get discrimination

:laugh2:

[GiRTh]

Yeah itust be the white people at fault. I mean in black or Asian countries I bet white names never get discrimination

:laugh2:Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have. :thumbs:

[Beso]

Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have. :thumbs:

I've never seen danny Dyer in a Bollywood movie.:smug:

[GiRTh]

I've never seen danny Dyer in a Bollywood movie.:smug:True. :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have. :thumbs:

I'll find some no mark fake suing some company for parity

:joker:

[Oliver_W]

Tbh the name "Dwight" suggests a toothless yokel who lives in a tunnel. Maybe that was the problem?

[Mystic Mock]

Guy sounds like a jerk

Tbf, the business in question does appear to be quite racist here.

[Mystic Mock]

It’s a real, proven thing that companies avoid giving interviews to people with non-white sounding names, hopefully they get sued for a lot of money as punishment for their clear racism

It's the opposite issue to the DEI/positive discrimination companies.

Will any company just hire on merit?:laugh:

[Redway]

Guy sounds like a jerk

Guy sounds like someone who’s experienced institutional racism, something you’ll never understand in this lifetime.

[Redway]

Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have. :thumbs:

Don’t mind this clown.

[Redway]

Not being funny but ... it's only a job in a hotel. Why does he care so much?

Why does institutional racism, no matter the context or title of job, hurt so much? Do you people actually hear yourselves?

[Oliver_W]

Why does institutional racism, no matter the context or title of job, hurt so much? Do you people actually hear yourselves?

It's never actually okay, be it the BBC excluding white people, or a hotel excluding a black person.

The point I was questioning is ... it's a hotel. Why apply multiple times, including under a fake name?

[Mystic Mock]

Guy sounds like someone who’s experienced institutional racism, something you’ll never understand in this lifetime.

You should see this video Redway, the racism is off the chart.

WzN0RNBqdz4

[Redway]

It's never actually okay, be it the BBC excluding white people, or a hotel excluding a black person.

The point I was questioning is ... it's a hotel. Why apply multiple times, including under a fake name?

You have this kind of privilege that loves perpetual debate, even when it’s not appropriate. I don’t even know what to say to you to be honest.

[Oliver_W]

You have this kind of privilege that loves perpetual debate, even when it’s not appropriate. I don’t even know what to say to you to be honest.

How'd you mean? I was agreeing that all forms of racism are wrong.

[Redway]

How'd you mean? I was agreeing that all forms of racism are wrong.

You’re implying that a black man was desperate to get a job because he stuck with the hotel, like that matters at all in the grand scheme of things. I’m sure you have a basic level of “racism is wrong” awareness but your mode of privilege makes you dismiss the extent of other people’s suffering, experiences and determination to prove racial discrimination that they have every right to prove. You might not see it yourself in yourself but it’s very obvious to anyone who’s more aware of the complexities of racism.

Too much assurance in white male privilege, conscious or unconscious, can block you from seeing the full truth and that’s a fact. You’re nowhere near as bad as LT (who deliberately baits and puts a racist narrative on everything involving people of colour) but you do make blunders. You might not be able to see it but that’s kinda the point. Always naively looking for a debate, at whatever cost, no-matter who you subconsciously trample on in the process. It’s very bad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You’re implying that a black man was desperate to get a job because he stuck with the hotel, like that matters at all in the grand scheme of things. I’m sure you have a basic level of “racism is wrong” awareness but your mode of privilege makes you dismiss the extent of other people’s suffering, experiences and determination to prove racial discrimination that they have every right to prove. You might not see it yourself in yourself but it’s very obvious to anyone who’s more aware of the complexities of racism.

Too much assurance in white male privilege, conscious or unconscious, can block you from seeing the full truth and that’s a fact. You’re nowhere near as bad as LT (who deliberately baits and puts a racist narrative on everything involving people of colour) but you do make blunders. You might not be able to see it but that’s kinda the point. Always naively looking for a debate, at whatever cost, no-matter who you subconsciously trample on in the process. It’s very bad.



this whole thread is about a guy putting a racist narrative into the fact he is crap at interviews

:facepalm:

[Ammi]

…this is t at all about interview performance…it’s about a name change that was implemented to a ‘more white sounding name’ which then gave him an interview opportunity with all other details exactly the same as his original application…/hence the discrimination lawsuit that he’s planning or has filed…

[Glenn.]

this whole thread is about a guy putting a racist narrative into the fact he is crap at interviews

:facepalm:

Isn’t the thread about him changing his name TO GET an interview?

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't have thought Dwight was a black sounding name either, like Oliver i would have pictured a white country guy, maybe it's with Jackson as a surname though?

[Niamh.]

**Not that I'm that up on American names or anything

[Crimson Dynamo]

**Not that I'm that up on American names or anything

Jackson is reliably found among the top twenty last names in the U.S.
According to WorldNames public profiler, the Jackson surname is found in the
greatest numbers in the U.K. and Australia. It is most prevalent in northern
England, especially Cumbria county.

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There is no way you could prove that the recruiter thought "Dwight Jackson, oh yeah the guy must be black with that name and as a racist I will not give him an interview"


crazy

[Niamh.]

Jackson is reliably found among the top twenty last names in the U.S.
According to WorldNames public profiler, the Jackson surname is found in the
greatest numbers in the U.K. and Australia. It is most prevalent in northern
England, especially Cumbria county.

---------


There is no way you could prove that the recruiter thought "Dwight Jackson, oh yeah the guy must be black with that name and as a racist I will not give him an interview"


crazy

It is a bit strange though that they did reject his CV multiple times until he changed his name. To me the name he chose sounds white/Polish and with stereotypes applied I would think that Polish people have a reputation for being hard working

[Crimson Dynamo]

It is a bit strange though that they did reject his CV multiple times until he changed his name. To me the name he chose sounds white/Polish and with stereotypes applied I would think that Polish people have a reputation for being hard working

Its nothing more than coincidence playing into his massive shoulder chip

[Niamh.]

Its nothing more than coincidence playing into his massive shoulder chip

I mean, if everything he's said is correct (which I'm sure he'll have to back up in his law suit) I would say there's more evidence to say he's right and his name change made the difference. I don't know whether they thought he was black or whether they thought he was "white trash" but either way it's discrimination because of his name.

[Ammi]

…I don’t know about surnames but I just found a site that lists some names and their origins…and it is specific to ‘black children chosen names…’…


…anyway, Dwight is listed as a chosen name for male black children…its origin/meaning….

Meaning: “Little and dark”
Origin: Irish
Cultural Significance: Represents the beauty and strength found in diversity.


…its only one site, I’m aware…but its helpful for us to understand why a name might be looked at with discrimination if this case goes through the legal system etc…

[Niamh.]

…I don’t know about surnames but I just found a site that lists some names and their origins…and it is specific to ‘black children chosen names…’…


…anyway, Dwight is listed as a chosen name for male black children…its origin/meaning….

Meaning: “Little and dark”
Origin: Irish
Cultural Significance: Represents the beauty and strength found in diversity.

Well I really hope he wins his case now :fist:

[Ammi]

Well I really hope he wins his case now :fist:

…abso-Irish-lutely….it all just got very serious in the land of green…

[Niamh.]

…abso-Irish-lutely….it all just got very serious in the land of green…

:laugh:

[user104658]

It is a bit strange though that they did reject his CV multiple times until he changed his name. To me the name he chose sounds white/Polish and with stereotypes applied I would think that Polish people have a reputation for being hard working

Its nothing more than coincidence playing into his massive shoulder chip

I could accept it being coincidence (or a different recruiter) if he'd just done it twice. Multiple rejections with his real name and then interview the FIRST time using an alternative name seems like more than coincidence and assuming all other elements of the application were the same, it seems likely to be the name. Though I do agree with Niamh above - hard to prove the race element from one example, there might be another reason for the name-bias. Having been involved in recruitment... sadly, if it's all one recruiter it could be as simple as them personally not liking the name "Dwight", and arbitrarily rejecting.

I'm not saying it isn't because of race though -- unfortunately it absolutely IS the reason a lot of the time. Just saying that it will probably be hard to prove without multiple examples of the same thing happening with different names.

[Niamh.]

I could accept it being coincidence (or a different recruiter) if he'd just done it twice. Multiple rejections with his real name and then interview the FIRST time using an alternative name seems like more than coincidence and assuming all other elements of the application were the same, it seems likely to be the name. Though I do agree with Niamh above - hard to prove the race element from one example, there might be another reason for the name-bias. Having been involved in recruitment... sadly, if it's all one recruiter it could be as simple as them personally not liking the name "Dwight", and arbitrarily rejecting.

I'm not saying it isn't because of race though -- unfortunately it absolutely IS the reason a lot of the time. Just saying that it will probably be hard to prove without multiple examples of the same thing happening with different names.

At the very least it shows a prejudice based on whatever type of person he associates with that name so is discrimination regardless

[Redway]

this whole thread is about a guy putting a racist narrative into the fact he is crap at interviews

:facepalm:

“My Hidden Race”, Anyika Onuora. Read the whole book (including the part where Anyika has to re-apply to jobs with a white-sounding name when she’s living in London, and lo-and-behold gets the job, but doesn’t when using her real name) and then we can talk. I know that you already know the truth deep-down but read about her experiences and how difficult that was for her before calling bluff even on a baiting level. You are so not funny.

[Crimson Dynamo]

“My Hidden Race”, Anyika Onuora. Read the whole book (including the part where Anyika has to re-apply to jobs with a white-sounding name when she’s living in London, and lo-and-behold gets the job, but doesn’t when using her real name) and then we can talk. I know that you already know the truth deep-down but read about her experiences and how difficult that was for her before calling bluff even on a baiting level. You are so not funny.

I have the latest Tommy Robinson book to read and then I have the new one from Paul Golding (The Battle for Britain) so I'm pretty backed up with books at mo, but thanks for the recommendation

:spin:

[GiRTh]

I have the latest Tommy Robinson book to read and then I have the new one from Paul Golding (The Battle for Britain) so I'm pretty backed up with books at mo, but thanks for the recommendation

:spin:Tommy Robinson and Paul Golding eh? Surely there's not much in those books that would surprise or shock you. :shrug: Try a book that may tell you something you didn't know. :thumbs:

You have no idea how much that rather flippant statement says, or should I say, confirms about you. :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tommy Robinson and Paul Golding eh? Surely there's not much in those books that would surprise or shock you. :shrug: Try a book that may tell you something you didn't know. :thumbs:

You have no idea how much that rather flippant statement says, or should I say, confirms about you. :joker:

:facepalm:

[GiRTh]

:facepalm:Again you're telling us more than you want to. Keep it up. Dont ever change. :thumbs:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Again you're telling us more than you want to. Keep it up. Dont ever change. :thumbs:

nice try to recover from looking silly :hee:

I know when you get out the :thumbs:

you are out of your depth

keep digging...

[Redway]

Again you're telling us more than you want to. Keep it up. Dont ever change. :thumbs:

He really has no idea.

[GiRTh]

Are we saying this thread that if it happened once then OK but multiple time means its racist. :shrug: Surely not.

BTW the name Dwight Jackson, to me, very much says black man. Especially in the USA. Google it and see what comes up.

[GiRTh]

nice try to recover from looking silly :hee:

I know when you get out the :thumbs:

you are out of your depth

keep digging...The facepalm made me look silly did it? OK if you say so mate :thumbs:

When it comes to race LT. I'm so so sorry but it's one of those - I've forgotten more etc - In your dreams you make me silly in reality you dont know what you're talking about, ever, when it comes to race. All I need to do is keep you talking and eventually you say something. You know this, so I cant wait for your next reply. :thumbs:

haven't you admitted on here that you dont know and have never known any black people? There you go. I need say no more.

Please reply. Please keep this going.

[Redway]

The facepalm made me look silly did it? OK if you say so mate :thumbs:

When it comes to race LT. I'm so so sorry but it's one of those - I've forgotten more etc - In your dreams you make me silly in reality you dont know what you're talking about, ever, when it comes to race. All I need to do is keep you talking and eventually you say something. You know this, so I cant wait for your next reply. :thumbs:

haven't you admitted on here that you dont know and have never known any black people? There you go. I need say no more.

Please reply. Please keep this going.

Why am I not surprised?

[GiRTh]

He really has no idea.Yeah. Its sticks out like a beacon when you probe him

[GiRTh]

Why am I not surprised?Yeah, he has. Proudly stated it :joker:

[Redway]

Yeah, he has. Proudly stated it :joker:

Oh, dear God.

LT, you really have no idea, do you?

[GiRTh]

Oh, dear God.

LT, you really have no idea, do you?:laugh::laugh:

[Redway]

Seriously, My Hidden Race is a book I’d implore everyone to read.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh, dear God.

LT, you really have no idea, do you?

I'm genuinely sad you both don't get it

It's bizarre but frankly not surprising


Just wow

[Redway]

I'm genuinely sad you both don't get it

It's bizarre but frankly not surprising


Just wow

Oh, God. Ain’t you a job for Jesus.

[Mystic Mock]

You’re implying that a black man was desperate to get a job because he stuck with the hotel, like that matters at all in the grand scheme of things. I’m sure you have a basic level of “racism is wrong” awareness but your mode of privilege makes you dismiss the extent of other people’s suffering, experiences and determination to prove racial discrimination that they have every right to prove. You might not see it yourself in yourself but it’s very obvious to anyone who’s more aware of the complexities of racism.

Too much assurance in white male privilege, conscious or unconscious, can block you from seeing the full truth and that’s a fact. You’re nowhere near as bad as LT (who deliberately baits and puts a racist narrative on everything involving people of colour) but you do make blunders. You might not be able to see it but that’s kinda the point. Always naively looking for a debate, at whatever cost, no-matter who you subconsciously trample on in the process. It’s very bad.

Oh no, Sky Sports News lingo has entered TIBB.:joker:

Being serious though, I'm glad that he went for the job under a different name, as it proves his case that he was being discriminated against, rather than claiming it with no evidence.

[Mystic Mock]

Are we saying this thread that if it happened once then OK but multiple time means its racist. :shrug: Surely not.

BTW the name Dwight Jackson, to me, very much says black man. Especially in the USA. Google it and see what comes up.

I 100% agree.

If I was the recruiter, I would 100% think that Dwight Jackson is a black man... And then reject his application.:hehe:

But seriously, I would hazard a strong guess that Dwight Jackson is a black person if I were the recruiter.

[Redway]

Oh no, Sky Sports News lingo has entered TIBB.:joker:

Being serious though, I'm glad that he went for the job under a different name, as it proves his case that he was being discriminated against, rather than claiming it with no evidence.

It is a real thing, though, Mock. It goes well beyond Sky Sports.

[Mystic Mock]

It is a real thing, though, Mock. It goes well beyond Sky Sports.

I just hate the term white privilege, it's a me thing more than anything else.:laugh:

I get what you're saying though, and it is clear that Dwight was ticking someone off at this Hotel because of his name.

So personally I'm glad that he pursued the case.

[UserSince2005]

Now he knows how porn stars feel

[Crimson Dynamo]

I 100% agree.

If I was the recruiter, I would 100% think that Dwight Jackson is a black man... And then reject his application.:hehe:

But seriously, I would hazard a strong guess that Dwight Jackson is a black person if I were the recruiter.

Mock stop talking bs Dwight Jackson as a name suggests nothing to anyone

This case is baseless and wil be thrown out

[Mystic Mock]

Mock stop talking bs Dwight Jackson as a name suggests nothing to anyone

This case is baseless and wil be thrown out

You don't think that an American named Dwight Jackson gives out a clue as to his race?

It'd be like saying that someone called Ji Sung Park isn't Asian.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You don't think that an American named Dwight Jackson gives out a clue as to his race?

It'd be like saying that someone called Ji Sung Park isn't Asian.

That is a terrible example.

What about Dwight Jackson says black man

Explain

[Mystic Mock]

That is a terrible example.

What about Dwight Jackson says black man

Explain

Let's just be as un-PC about this as possible here.

How many white people named Dwight Jackson do you know irl? Because my answer to that question is zero.

I'm sure that they're out there, but I doubt it's that many.

[Oliver_W]

How many white people named Dwight Jackson do you know irl?

I don't know anyone called Dwight Jackson, of any race.

[Redway]

Now he knows how porn stars feel

Why is this guy still here?

[Redway]

Let's just be as un-PC about this as possible here.

How many white people named Dwight Jackson do you know irl? Because my answer to that question is zero.

I'm sure that they're out there, but I doubt it's that many.

Don’t even bother trying to explain anything to LT at this point. He revels in his racism and wilful ignorance. Best thing to do is just feel sorry for him.

[Glenn.]

LT having his arse handed to him is always nice to see.

You can tell he thinks he’s right because he still posting (trolling)

When you actually box him in with facts and pull his “opinions” apart he’s unsurprisingly quiet.

[Redway]

Can’t be arsed reading the book, LT? Here’s an audiobook preview: https://youtu.be/41yU68Ej6mk?si=8hd3P6RC1cCZHXFu

Let me just see anyone else try to defend LT on this. Let me see those fools come out of the woodworks. KMT in advance.

Even, let me see anyone try and defend bricks being thrown through people’s windows for no other marvellously reasonable reason than the colour of a young family’s skin. I know there are people on this half-clapped forum who honestly would defend that.

[Mystic Mock]

Don’t even bother trying to explain anything to LT at this point. He revels in his racism and wilful ignorance. Best thing to do is just feel sorry for him.

I'm trying to understand where he is coming from on this topic tbh.

I always like to hear alternative views to my own (even if I strongly disagree with them) but I feel like what LT and anybody else that's agreeing with him is failing to understand, is that those of us that would work presume that Dwight Jackson would be a black man ended up being correct, as he is a black man.

So I highly doubt that the Hotel in question wouldn't be thinking on a similar line.

I'm glad that you and a few other members can see my point of view though, Redway, because I thought that I was going crazy.:laugh:

Tbf to LT, this is probably the first topic on here where we're completely on opposite ends to each other on a topic, where we just don't understand each other's viewpoint (which tbf is natural to happen) that's life I guess.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I don't know anyone called Dwight Jackson, of any race.

Fair enough.

[Beso]

You don't think that an American named Dwight Jackson gives out a clue as to his race?

It'd be like saying that someone called Ji Sung Park isn't Asian.

Isnt the rock called dwight johnson?

[Niamh.]

Isnt the rock called dwight johnson?

No

[Beso]

Its Dwayne...much the same.

[UserSince2005]

Why is this guy still here?

I will not apologise for being hilarious.

[Redway]

I will not apologise for being hilarious.

Hilarious to who?

[Maru]

Its Dwayne...much the same.

I thought of him too immediately in the context of the thread title, that I even googled right away because I loaded last page and saw the name... wait, isn't that him? :laugh:

Dwight Jackson can be a black name but if you asked me without context, I would not have thought black right away. But Dwight is an older man's name, white or black. Jackson isn't race-specific, but it is common enough in black population that I can see where somebody, especially in specific communities or regions where the name is popular in those neighborhoods there that they might immediately make that assumption. It's not immediate for me.

[Ammi]

…I think the thing about the story is that it’s being said that he got an interview with the name change so the indication from that is that his name had some type of prejudice attached by the interviewers…and where someone lives would have a relevance too with an ‘image’ or ‘stereotype’ someone would associate with a specific name…I don’t know what will be made public but it’ll be interesting to hear the court thoughts…

[Niamh.]

I thought of him too immediately in the context of the thread title, that I even googled right away because I loaded last page and saw the name... wait, isn't that him? [emoji23]

Dwight Jackson can be a black name but if you asked me without context, I would not have thought black right away. But Dwight is an older man's name, white or black. Jackson isn't race-specific, but it is common enough in black population that I can see where somebody, especially in specific communities or regions where the name is popular in those neighborhoods there that they might immediately make that assumption. It's not immediate for me.There's a character in the Walking Dead called Dwight and he's a red neck type white guy, that could be why that type of person instantly popped into my head when I heard the name

[Niamh.]

…I think the thing about the story is that it’s being said that he got an interview with the name change so the indication from that is that his name had some type of prejudice attached by the interviewers…and where someone lives would have a relevance too with an ‘image’ or ‘stereotype’ someone would associate with a specific name…I don’t know what will be made public but it’ll be interesting to hear the court thoughts…Yes definitely

[bots]

the thing is, it may not have got to the point of someone human reading the application. These days, everything is pre-screened by computer, narrowing down the field to a manageable level before a human takes over