Approached by 20 men in two hours: The reality of being a woman alone at night

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[GoldHeart]

It's actually scary , stay in groups ladies or try and get a taxi home safely . I would never walk the streets at night... it's bad enough creeps still hover about in the daylight,but at night ... it'll be worse especially if booze is involved and they're hanging about with their mates.

I'm thinking of investing in a personal alarm & some type of self defence spray , nobody wants to get harassed like that. Especially when you're just trying to go about your daily life.

[Crimson Dynamo]

it's actually scary , stay in groups ladies or try and get a taxi home safely . I would never walk the streets at night... It's bad enough creeps still hover about in the daylight,but at night ... It'll be worse especially if booze is involved and they're hanging about with their mates.

I'm thinking of investing in a personal alarm & some type of self defence spray , nobody wants to get harassed like that. Especially when you're just trying to go about your daily life.

im afraid its only going to get a lot worse...

[thesheriff443]

It's actually scary , stay in groups ladies or try and get a taxi home safely . I would never walk the streets at night... it's bad enough creeps still hover about in the daylight,but at night ... it'll be worse especially if booze is involved and they're hanging about with their mates.

I'm thinking of investing in a personal alarm & some type of self defence spray , nobody wants to get harassed like that. Especially when you're just trying to go about your daily life.

Definitely agree with you but I will add that the reporter was going to get more attention than a woman wearing a hoodie with head down

[user104658]

going to get more attention than a woman wearing a hoodie with head down

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[UserSince2005]

Theres a reason why they have to wear burkas in their countries.
It will be neccessary in the uk soon if you dont want to be harrassed or worse.

[user104658]

Theres a reason why they have to wear burkas in their countries.

Yes - the draconian and misogynistic laws that require it. They were not brought in for women's safety.

[UserSince2005]

Yes - the draconian and misogynistic laws that require it. They were not brought in for women's safety.

Its all linked, and women are more safe in burkas in those countries.

[arista]

Nice
name of one of the young ladies
"Niamh"


Also filmed in Nasty Wales

[Cherie]

Definitely agree with you but I will add that the reporter was going to get more attention than a woman wearing a hoodie with head down

always the womans fault isn't it....

[user104658]

Its all linked, and women are more safe in burkas in those countries.

It's linked, but in FAR more complicated ways than what's being suggested, and ultimately increased "modesty standards" actually lead to a worsening situation. Doesn't take long to get from "they should wear a hoodie not a crop top" to "showing an ankle is a sign of promiscuity".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Importing thousands upon thousands of young men from countries where women are treated like dirt and then cramming them into our cities and towns and expecting everything to be fine


madness

[UserSince2005]

At the end of the day wear a burka or expect problems. This is our reality now.

[Liam-]

If only one of them had assaulted her, he might have been able to run as a reform candidate eh?

[GoldHeart]

Theres a reason why they have to wear burkas in their countries.
It will be neccessary in the uk soon if you dont want to be harrassed or worse.

It's laughable and a tad ignorant you even think a burka would stop a weirdo or pervert, he or they will still harass the woman even more.

Those countries you're referring to have alot of rape & assaults that likely go unreported , a man even dressed up in full hijab gear undercover somewhere in the middle east just so he could see how bad it is. Every second he was approached by unwanted attention..... by some creep, who thought he had a right to intimidate a woman who's by herself.

At the end of the day if you're a woman by yourself regardless of what you're wearing, you're more vulnerable especially in the night life.

[Glenn.]

Importing thousands upon thousands of young men from countries where women are treated like dirt and then cramming them into our cities and towns and expecting everything to be fine


madness

Oop there’s the reason you posted it. I was surprised when I initially opened the thread. It’s not the women you were worried about, it’s the immigrants.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Earlier this year, ITV News interviewed more than 1,000 young adults.

Our report found that more than eight out of 10 young women feel unsafe
walking home alone in the dark.

And more than six out of 10 feel unsafe on their own in a bar.


The sad reality is that when I saw the results, I expected the numbers to be
higher."

[GoldHeart]

Definitely agree with you but I will add that the reporter was going to get more attention than a woman wearing a hoodie with head down

The reporter wasn't naked...I bet even if she was in jogging bottoms & hoodie they'd still be someone bothering her .I get your point about certain clothing getting more ' attention ' . Sometimes yes it can.

But then you could say if you're wearing a fancy chain or gold watch are you more likely to be mugged ?.... Or would you still be at risk of a mugging if your jewellery was hidden in your pocket or bag. Thugs & creeps will always try it on ...as they see an opportunity.

So yes we should try and be safe and not draw attention,but you could be minding your own business in a woolly hat and a big coat covering you up ....and still get harassed , hence why I wouldn't walk alone at night. The fact that even in broad daylight stuff happens aswell .

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that even in broad daylight stuff happens aswell .

Alex has been followed and robbed - she is constantly abused

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[thesheriff443]

always the womans fault isn't it....

Where did I say that?

For the purpose of the video the reporter who I will add was attractive and fit wore an outfit that would attract more attention than a woman walking in a hoodie and loose fitting track bottoms

Women get hassled but the reason the reporter got approached 20 times in two hours was a combination of her looks and what she was wearing if she was a hoodie the numbers would be much lower

I’m actually insulted but not surprised by your response to me
There is not a man on this forum or doubt in the real world that not only cares about women but has stepped in so many times to see women and girls don’t hassle hurt or abused
I’m the man that women come to when a drunk dick won’t leave them alone
You talk about click bait head lines the 20 men in two hours is one of those headlines

Not all men are animals

There is also a much deeper reason to this issue
Humans are attracted to the opposite sex that’s inbuilt and part the need to mate to repopulate the human race
But with dating sites you tube and schools and television shows ,we have come to believe that you can just walk up to a stranger ask them out or hook up with them without it being a problem.

[thesheriff443]

The reporter wasn't naked...I bet even if she was in jogging bottoms & hoodie they'd still be someone bothering her .I get your point about certain clothing getting more ' attention ' . Sometimes yes it can.

But then you could say if you're wearing a fancy chain or gold watch are you more likely to be mugged ?.... Or would you still be at risk of a mugging if your jewellery was hidden in your pocket or bag. Thugs & creeps will always try it on ...as they see an opportunity.

So yes we should try and be safe and not draw attention,but you could be minding your own business in a woolly hat and a big coat covering you up ....and still get harassed , hence why I wouldn't walk alone at night. The fact that even in broad daylight stuff happens aswell .

Unfortunately it’s a dangerous world we live and I don’t blame for not putting yourself in danger

[Liam-]

Oop there’s the reason you posted it. I was surprised when I initially opened the thread. It’s not the women you were worried about, it’s the immigrants.

You can always tell what an LT thread is really going to be about just by reading the title

[Ninastar]

We are scared of the white men, too :shrug: do women feel nervous walking past a mob of men no matter the colour? Yes

Does this prove why women want safe spaces away from men? Also yes

Does anyone here actually care about how dangerous it is for women to walk alone at night or is it all just shite to go with your political beliefs? *big brother voice* find out next time, you decide!

[Vanessa]

I always feel scared walking alone at night. I prefer not too.
Luckily I have a bus that stops right in front of my house from the tube station.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I always feel scared walking alone at night. I prefer not too.
Luckily I have a bus that stops right in front of my house from the tube station.

Khan's London is not safe for any lone woman

[Oliver_W]

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[Niamh.]

We are scared of the white men, too :shrug: do women feel nervous walking past a mob of men no matter the colour? Yes



Does this prove why women want safe spaces away from men? Also yes



Does anyone here actually care about how dangerous it is for women to walk alone at night or is it all just shite to go with your political beliefs? *big brother voice* find out next time, you decide![emoji122]

[Niamh.]

51-hepLP8J4[emoji1787] she's great, used to love her show years ago

[Alf]

You can always tell what an LT thread is really going to be about just by reading the titleExactly. Sexually harrassing women might be bad. But highlighting it when it's not White British people is far worse. And I'm definitely not racist for thinking that way.

[GiRTh]

This thread :facepalm:

1 - I don't think it was started to discuss the issue of harassment of women
2 - The comments are sad.

On topic, I cant imagine what it must be like to have a job where late travel to and from work is needed but not provided by the job. The vid speak for itself especially the bit where those knobs are walking past the interview. :bored:

[Alf]

Think of the feelings of our invaders.

We should just keep quiet about these things unless the perpetrators are White British. Then we can show our disgust.

[Beso]

Importing thousands upon thousands of young men from countries where women are treated like dirt and then cramming them into our cities and towns and expecting everything to be fine


madness





Do they have statistics on underage girls getting approached by these perverts?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Do they have statistics on underage girls getting approached by these perverts?

Absolutely but will never publish them

[Beso]

@ninestar.

I always worry about women. See if I'm walking through a park in the winter when it's dark, and it's just me with an older lady, or old lady walking in front of me..I always want to say it's ok, just me. Walking past..but I always think that might scare them more. If I saw a big group in front of us both I would always make myself known and ask if she would like me to walk with her until we got past them..

A young woman though, well I reckon she would just look at me as an old pervert in the first scenario so I swdinatly dont bother, but I would still again do the same as the older women in the 2nd scenario..


May I ask the TIBB ladies how you would react to a total stranger creeping up to you in the dark saying, dont be scared, its only me walking past. Or how I could word it better and make myself known on behond them better.

Ita horrible just walking past cause you can see their shoulders rising in fear sometimes as they realise their is someone behind them

[Cherie]

Where did I say that?

For the purpose of the video the reporter who I will add was attractive and fit wore an outfit that would attract more attention than a woman walking in a hoodie and loose fitting track bottoms

Women get hassled but the reason the reporter got approached 20 times in two hours was a combination of her looks and what she was wearing if she was a hoodie the numbers would be much lower

I’m actually insulted but not surprised by your response to me
There is not a man on this forum or doubt in the real world that not only cares about women but has stepped in so many times to see women and girls don’t hassle hurt or abused
I’m the man that women come to when a drunk dick won’t leave them alone
You talk about click bait head lines the 20 men in two hours is one of those headlines

Not all men are animals

There is also a much deeper reason to this issue
Humans are attracted to the opposite sex that’s inbuilt and part the need to mate to repopulate the human race
But with dating sites you tube and schools and television shows ,we have come to believe that you can just walk up to a stranger ask them out or hook up with them without it being a problem.

okay here goes.....I have no doubt you would step in to help anyone in distress and I know that as fact Sherriff, however....a woman should be able to dress whatever way she wants without it attracting unwanted attention....a woman who dresses up for a night out might be meeting a new date, her husband, her wife, her boyfriend, her girlfriend, or she might just be meeting up with friends, she dresses and puts on makeup to feel good about herself...she does not dress for RANDOMs to approach her in the street and this is FACT, and she should not need to don a hoodie and baggie trouser so she slides by .... men dress to look good...Yes? they are not subjected to unwanted comments from anyone when they do..... do you get what I am saying? because what you are saying is ...she was asking for it ....

[Cherie]

@ninestar.

I always worry about women. See if I'm walking through a park in the winter when it's dark, and it's just me with an older lady, or old lady walking in front of me..I always want to say it's ok, just me. Walking past..but I always think that might scare them more. If I saw a big group in front of us both I would always make myself known and ask if she would like me to walk with her until we got past them..

A young woman though, well I reckon she would just look at me as an old pervert in the first scenario so I swdinatly dont bother, but I would still again do the same as the older women in the 2nd scenario..


May I ask the TIBB ladies how you would react to a total stranger creeping up to you in the dark saying, dont be scared, its only me walking past. Or how I could word it better and make myself known on behond them better.

Ita horrible just walking past cause you can see their shoulders rising in fear sometimes as they realise their is someone behind them


as a woman if I am walking alone at night or daytime in a quiet place , what I need anyone male or female to do is cross to the other side so I know they are not a threat... when passing you could hold you hand up and say .... just walking by if you need any help let me know and that would be fine

[thesheriff443]

okay here goes.....I have no doubt you would step in to help anyone in distress and I know that as fact Sherriff, however....a woman should be able to dress whatever way she wants without it attracting unwanted attention....a woman who dresses up for a night out might be meeting a new date, her husband, her wife, her boyfriend, her girlfriend, or she might just be meeting up with friends, she dresses and puts on makeup to feel good about herself...she does not dress for RANDOMs to approach her in the street and this is FACT, and she should not need to don a hoodie and baggie trouser so she slides by .... men dress to look good...Yes? they are not subjected to unwanted comments from anyone when they do..... do you get what I am saying? because what you are saying is ...she was asking for it ....

I’m saying for the benefit of her report she was approached by more men because of the way she looked and the way she was dressed than if she dressed in a hoodie , 20 men in two hours gets more views than 10 men in two hours


I’m not saying women shouldn’t dress the way they want to I’m not defending any dick heads that think it’s ok to go up to women and hassle them
The fact is , it’s not safe for women to be out walking at night so they need to protect themselves as best they can.

[Cherie]

I’m saying for the benefit of her report she was approached by more men because of the way she looked and the way she was dressed than if she dressed in a hoodie , 20 men in two hours gets more views than 10 men in two hours


I’m not saying women shouldn’t dress the way they want to I’m not defending any dick heads that think it’s ok to go up to women and hassle them
The fact is , it’s not safe for women to be out walking at night so they need to protect themselves as best they can.


and this is the sad fact of it...as a man can you imagine what that is like, that we cant go out after a certain time, or dress in a certain way because we have to protect ourselves....this is women through the ages and no different in 2024...its not going to change either so educate your grandaughters this is how it is...Jess Phillips can say all the right things but nothing will change

[Beso]

Sorry, but for the human race to continue, women, and also men are going to have to put up with unwanted attention at times.

Does that involve leering groups of either sex. No, of course it doesnt, but some kids wont be on this earth right now if initial advances hadnt been made in the street.

[GoldHeart]

Sorry, but for the human race to continue, women, and also men are going to have to put up with unwanted attention at times.

Does that involve leering groups of either sex. No, of course it doesnt, but some kids wont be on this earth right now if initial advances hadnt been made in the street.

But things aren't how they use to be , especially if there's groups of drunken guys nearby or approaching a woman by herself. It's not exactly the time or place to chat someone up. Crime and assault has gone up ,cities & towns are alot more dangerous now.

Even if all you want to do is reassure the person you're ' no threat' , you have to be so careful how you tread .... as people now have to have their wits about them ....so they're a little on edge.

[Beso]

But things aren't how they use to be , especially if there's groups of drunken guys nearby or approaching a woman by herself. It's not exactly the time or place to chat someone up. Crime and assault has gone up ,cities & towns are alot more dangerous now.

Even if all you want to do is reassure the person you're ' no threat' , you have to be so careful how you tread .... as people now have to have their wits about them ....so they're a little on edge.



Its honestly no different for a lone guy confronted by a group of drunken women.

[GoldHeart]

Jys honestly no different for a lone guy confronted by a group of drunken women.

Well I imagine the guy would feel uncomfortable,but a woman on her own will feel alot more intimidated by a group of guys. I'm not downplaying a guy's bad experience....but you can't deny that each gender is different.

And a guy would probably feel more scared if a bunch of other men approached him .. rather than a bunch of women .....as he doesn't know if he's about to get stabbed or beaten or anything, the threat will always seem more bigger.

[GoldHeart]

Its honestly no different for a lone guy confronted by a group of drunken women.

Also just to add .... Yes women can be predatory and lairy , there's no denying that . But overall a woman walking the streets alone will always be more of an easy target...for creeps.

But whoever you are male or female , you have to stay alert when out and about ...and be aware of your surroundings.

[Beso]

Well I'm sorry but all I will say after 30 odd years of being on the internet, and how I see the world now, GoldHeart.

The thought of being dressed up in some sexy looking clothes and thinking you are the dogs bollocks as you walk past a group of men, would make lots if lone women moist. Due to their feeling of empowerment.

And also the majority of women very uncomfartable if they tried the same.

[Mystic Mock]

I know that some people will disagree with me on what I'm about to say, but here we go.:laugh:

A lot of men are being taught how to interact with women from men such as Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, and the Alpha Male Bootcamp people.

That then leads to situations like what ITV is covering, Andrew Tate especially is problematic for women with the views that he teaches his young male audience.

Plus parents need to be instilling some actual life lessons to their children in general, because the men that were approaching Cree Houghton could've expressed their opinion of her without coming across as so creepy and clingy.

[Mystic Mock]

Its all linked, and women are more safe in burkas in those countries.

What do we do after that? Stone the women that get raped?

[Mystic Mock]

Where did I say that?

For the purpose of the video the reporter who I will add was attractive and fit wore an outfit that would attract more attention than a woman walking in a hoodie and loose fitting track bottoms

Women get hassled but the reason the reporter got approached 20 times in two hours was a combination of her looks and what she was wearing if she was a hoodie the numbers would be much lower

I’m actually insulted but not surprised by your response to me
There is not a man on this forum or doubt in the real world that not only cares about women but has stepped in so many times to see women and girls don’t hassle hurt or abused
I’m the man that women come to when a drunk dick won’t leave them alone
You talk about click bait head lines the 20 men in two hours is one of those headlines

Not all men are animals

There is also a much deeper reason to this issue
Humans are attracted to the opposite sex that’s inbuilt and part the need to mate to repopulate the human race
But with dating sites you tube and schools and television shows ,we have come to believe that you can just walk up to a stranger ask them out or hook up with them without it being a problem.

Thankfully I've not been tested on that scenario.

Tbh though, I would probably not be the hero that the woman would be looking for in that scenario, as I would either end up being too cowardly or end up getting myself stabbed to death.

Oh and to go shallow for a second, I 100% agree with you on the Reporter being attractive, obviously it doesn't excuse her being harassed though.

[Ammi]

…I think a really important thing with the vid to say is that the interviewer had gone to talk to Niamh who had been attacked in daylight…and an attempt to rape her in broad daylight…it was so upsetting to watch because the trauma of having to fight off her attacker wasn’t the only trauma she went through…she felt that trauma continue in telling her parents, as if she’d done something wrong or hadn’t done enough or in some way was at fault because her dad…(…being a police officer when she was growing up…had taught her some self defence…and telling her parents for her was the hardest part because she knew how much it would devastate them to hear of her attack…so this isn’t just about women alone at night and how vulnerable they are and feel…it’s about women alone in daylight and women alone at a gym and so many situations that women are vulnerable in…

[GoldHeart]

…I think a really important thing with the vid to say is that the interviewer had gone to talk to Niamh who had been attacked in daylight…and an attempt to rape her in broad daylight…it was so upsetting to watch because the trauma of having to fight off her attacker wasn’t the only trauma she went through…she felt that trauma continue in telling her parents, as if she’d done something wrong or hadn’t done enough or in some way was at fault because her dad…(…being a police officer when she was growing up…had taught her some self defence…and telling her parents for her was the hardest part because she knew how much it would devastate them to hear of her attack…so this isn’t just about women alone at night and how vulnerable they are and feel…it’s about women alone in daylight and women alone at a gym and so many situations that women are vulnerable in…


Very true Ammi

It must have been terrifying what she went through .... especially in broad daylight. It's sad that this happens all to often.

[Mystic Mock]

How on earth is someone attacking in broad daylight and there be no witnesses to the crime?

[GoldHeart]

How on earth is someone attacking in broad daylight and there be no witnesses to the crime?

Good question... but even in broad daylight there's still quiet secluded areas, some parks and paths for e.g can be like graveyards even in the daytime. There's some places i would be wary of walking by myself... even in daylight.

[Ammi]

…we don’t know if there were witnesses to the daylight attack which was talked about in the vid…?…there may have been but she did say that it was in a quiet area but in daylight hours…as GoldHeart said, though…with any secluded area, no matter what time of the day…many women can feel reluctant to walk alone because they feel vulnerable…we hear of many, many attacks on females that aren’t at night…even in crowded public beaches….

[Mystic Mock]

Good question... but even in broad daylight there's still quiet secluded areas, some parks and paths for e.g can be like graveyards even in the daytime. There's some places i would be wary of walking by myself... even in daylight.

True I suppose.

It's kind of frustrating to see someone do something so monstrous and get away with it in broad daylight, because imo you've got to have some arrogance to know that you can assault someone without help arriving.

[Ammi]

True I suppose.

It's kind of frustrating to see someone do something so monstrous and get away with it in broad daylight, because imo you've got to have some arrogance to know that you can assault someone without help arriving.

…or a lack of police presence, which is sadly becoming a recurring thing with many crimes…

[Mystic Mock]

…or a lack of police presence, which is sadly becoming a recurring thing with many crimes…

Sad, but also true.

[Cherie]

Sad, but also true.

it will be broad daylight at 6am in the summer months Mock, not many people around though and this poor girl does night shifts

[Crimson Dynamo]

So we have the ITV video and the males it showed

SO you would think a Government video warning about male sexual harassment (voice by Olivia Coleman) would reflect reality?

oh

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:bored:

[thesheriff443]

It’s all white males and yet it’s black males portrayed as the ones that know it’s wrong

Honestly people can throw out it’s because you’re being racist but come on
It’s taking the fkn p1ss

[Livia]

I suggest to any woman walking alone at night and cannot carry anything illegal to protect themselves for fear of being the one who is arrested... A small can of hairspray in one pocket and a.lighter in the other, both legal - and burn the ****er's face off.

[Cherie]

I suggest to any woman walking alone at night and cannot carry anything illegal to protect themselves for fear of being the one who is arrested... A small can of hairspray in one pocket and a.lighter in the other, both legal - and burn the ****er's face off.

Poor Parmy just walking by ...and boom!

[GoldHeart]

Talking of things to carry ... here's 2 perfectly LEGAL things for safety & protection.

Let's say it's being caught ' RED handed' :laugh:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Defence-NOYZIE-Alternative-Marking-Keychain/dp/B0C5J82399/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=3HDMJJNBJ67SH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Bu6vDe7HAoRkxRCMaCijOLoGnbkee10-
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fety+spray&qid=1721477894&sprefix=safety+spray+%2C
aps%2C211&sr=8-4



Then of course there's the alarm siren which will deafen them.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vantamo-Personal-Alarm-Women-Rechargeable/dp/B0CRSDHQ9P/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?crid=8EB9WINALY8R&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Wvu0j3EAbAlZqZ5QmkdDHxnGPxkwMjZL3 IJCX4eLtu6qefx5RtShY9r9fJLD8TZfKVBJvFqWjRI7A2i-xEtB9vrVM8I0WFuYaGLbThmU5hjSBNYG87lTm_5H_EKXgeSD0O CzKvHQrfM5X-oxt4Vw9w-Hm7VcaBUYPIccyhuYJw5mT4CltNQDcLF8L7D9N3G4sefLUL-WGi2fzUIIK0f6qw.hz9V6btsrdWa_0BxioEBq2t1G-I2msrpjDhTPwjx5Ds&dib_tag=se&keywords=safety+alarm&qid=1721478109&sprefix=safety+ala%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1

[Beso]

Poor Parmy just walking by ...and boom!



It would be an improvement.

[Livia]

Poor Parmy just walking by ...and boom!

I bet Parmy's not a grabber... Is he?

[Beso]

I bet Parmy's not a grabber... Is he?

No.. I just touch it for reassurance every now and again.

[Mystic Mock]

it will be broad daylight at 6am in the summer months Mock, not many people around though and this poor girl does night shifts

Fair point tbf.

[Mystic Mock]

So we have the ITV video and the males it showed

SO you would think a Government video warning about male sexual harassment (voice by Olivia Coleman) would reflect reality?

oh

1814567005376192960


:bored:

The Advert is definitely heavy handed in the way that it's going about it imo, and the acting is really comically bad for such a serious topic.

But I suppose to play Devil's Advocate, there are far more white men in the UK than any other race of men, so the odds of a white man being a sex offender in the UK is going to be more likely.

[Beso]

The Advert is definitely heavy handed in the way that it's going about it imo, and the acting is really comically bad for such a serious topic.

But I suppose to play Devil's Advocate, there are far more white men in the UK than any other race of men, so the odds of a white man being a sex offender in the UK is going to be more likely.


Maybe 1 in so many...

But I bet asian men are about 1 in 3

[GoldHeart]

The Advert is definitely heavy handed in the way that it's going about it imo, and the acting is really comically bad for such a serious topic.

But I suppose to play Devil's Advocate, there are far more white men in the UK than any other race of men, so the odds of a white man being a sex offender in the UK is going to be more likely.

I think it depends more on the area ,rather than UK has a whole. As overall UK is very diverse , especially nowadays.

Some areas will be predominantly white , whilst other areas more
multi cultural.

[Mystic Mock]

Maybe 1 in so many...

But I bet asian men are about 1 in 3

I'm interested to know if you're right on those stats.

But I'm scared of being on a watchlist if I were to search it up.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I think it depends more on the area ,rather than UK has a whole. As overall UK is very diverse , especially nowadays.

Some areas will be predominantly white , whilst other areas more
multi cultural.

That's a fair point.

I just would still imagine that white men would be the majority guilty party of sex crimes in the UK, but it probably is closer than I'm thinking in other parts of the country, compared to where I live which is a predominantly white area.

[GoldHeart]

That's a fair point.

I just would still imagine that white men would be the majority guilty party of sex crimes in the UK, but it probably is closer than I'm thinking in other parts of the country, compared to where I live which is a predominantly white area.

Well for e.g if we're talking London in chelsea or somewhere then yeah the culprit will likely be white .

Whereas Peckham there's more of a chance of him being from different backgrounds.

[Mystic Mock]

Well for e.g if we're talking London in chelsea or somewhere then yeah the culprit will likely be white .

Whereas Peckham there's more of a chance of him being from different backgrounds.

Tbh I can see your point.

[Ammi]

…it’s a good video imo because it’s showing what this thread has discussed and highlighted, which is that sexual harassment is a broad daylight and crowded space issue for women as well…and an harraser/attacker/threat can be any and every shape, size or skin colour…Sarah Everard was kidnapped and brutally murdered by a police officer …someone we all would have thought of as being a ‘person of safety’….the whole point that both vids are meant to be focusing on is women and their safety and not skin colour…

[Mystic Mock]

…it’s a good video imo because it’s showing what this thread has discussed and highlighted, which is that sexual harassment is a broad daylight and crowded space issue for women as well…and an harraser/attacker/threat can be any and every shape, size or skin colour…Sarah Everard was kidnapped and brutally murdered by a police officer …someone we all would have thought of as being a ‘person of safety’….the whole point that both vids are meant to be focusing on is women and their safety and not skin colour…

I agree with most of what you're saying.

I do think though that the second video making every predator to be a white person is a bit OTT, but in the grand scheme of things the bigger focus should be on the sexual harassment issues that are happening in this country.

Especially with cases like Sarah Everard (like you've said yourself tbf,) that case always needs to be highlighted on how unsafe women actually are in some parts of the country.

[Ammi]

I agree with most of what you're saying.

I do think though that the second video making every predator to be a white person is a bit OTT, but in the grand scheme of things the bigger focus should be on the sexual harassment issues that are happening in this country.

Especially with cases like Sarah Everard (like you've said yourself tbf,) that case always needs to be highlighted on how unsafe women actually are in some parts of the country.

..it’s not OTT (…imo…)…because it’s not relevant to the actions of any predator as to what the skin colour is…sex crimes are mainly against women and that’s what both of those vids are about and that’s where the focus is being aimed at…I mean, just take one of those situations of say…the guy on the train sexually assaulting a female in such a public space/place and a place where it would be felt to have been completely safe…?..but the video is showing how that’s not always the case…it doesn’t need to be dark and it doesn’t need to be remote etc…the victims are all women and I can’t imagine any woman watching either of those vids and any of their thoughts bring about skin colour…

[Mystic Mock]

..it’s not OTT (…imo…)…because it’s not relevant to the actions of any predator as to what the skin colour is…sex crimes are mainly against women and that’s what both of those vids are about and that’s where the focus is being aimed at…I mean, just take one of those situations of say…the guy on the train sexually assaulting a female in such a public space/place and a place where it would be felt to have been completely safe…?..but the video is showing how that’s not always the case…it doesn’t need to be dark and it doesn’t need to be remote etc…the victims are all women and I can’t imagine any woman watching either of those vids and any of their thoughts bring about skin colour…

I agree with you that the bigger focus should be on the message of both videos in general.

I do think that the second video did add in a secondary message that's less complimentary to the video imo, which sadly will have some people discussing that instead of the actual point of the video.

Imo the first video was done better, because the Reporter just did her job with nothing to really pull up from my perspective anyway.

[Livia]

No.. I just touch it for reassurance every now and again.

LOL...