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MTVN
19-07-2024, 08:09 AM
Let's go looting!

Cherie
19-07-2024, 08:10 AM
:laugh:

MTVN
19-07-2024, 08:10 AM
Free coffee and bacon roll in the office for me today because they are cashless and can't take card payments

All the card only people not so clever now :smug:

Cherie
19-07-2024, 08:11 AM
Free coffee and bacon roll in the office for me today because they are cashless and can't take card payments

All the card only people not so clever now :smug:

lol

I see Sky News is off air as well

Gusto Brunt
19-07-2024, 08:12 AM
Luckily I don't use Cloud services. :p

Ammi
19-07-2024, 08:13 AM
…but, but, but, but…unless someone kept a stash of cash then no one would be able to get cash out anyway so either way its problematic, surely…?…

Ammi
19-07-2024, 08:14 AM
…why are we still here and on air on TiBB btw…?…would it not close TiBB down as well…?…

Mystic Mock
19-07-2024, 08:15 AM
My Dad was texting me about this about half an hour ago.

He shocked me with it when he told me at first.:laugh:

Ammi
19-07-2024, 08:20 AM
… Mock’s dad broke the system…?…

MTVN
19-07-2024, 08:22 AM
…why are we still here and on air on TiBB btw…?…would it not close TiBB down as well…?…

TiBB's defences > Microsoft

James
19-07-2024, 08:25 AM
Just came online to check TiBB was still up, and my PC was still running.

All good.

Ammi
19-07-2024, 08:25 AM
TiBB's defences > Microsoft

…and they often say that we need to keep up with the times with our program…who’s laughing now, eh…ironically they can’t hear our laughter because they can’t get online…

Ammi
19-07-2024, 08:26 AM
Just came online to check TiBB was still up, and my PC was still running.

All good.

…yep…all jolly times, James…

Cherie
19-07-2024, 08:30 AM
…but, but, but, but…unless someone kept a stash of cash then no one would be able to get cash out anyway so either way its problematic, surely…?…

Don't think cash machines are affected Ammi, but if a business is card only they can't take cash even if people do have an emergency stash

arista
19-07-2024, 08:30 AM
lol

I see Sky News is off air as well


Back On.

Cherie
19-07-2024, 08:31 AM
Back On.

aw the good news never lasts

arista
19-07-2024, 08:31 AM
…why are we still here and on air on TiBB btw…?…would it not close TiBB down as well…?…


We are NOT microsoft

arista
19-07-2024, 08:32 AM
aw the good news never lasts


No Subtitles working, though


More of their Business Editor Ian Dale
His City Feed is working,

Ninastar
19-07-2024, 08:33 AM
Yeahhhhhh **** you microsoft!! Bill gates and his annoying ass word documents not letting you move an img

arista
19-07-2024, 08:33 AM
A buggered Anti Virus
has done it

arista
19-07-2024, 08:34 AM
Airports Grounding Flights.

Ammi
19-07-2024, 08:36 AM
Yeahhhhhh **** you microsoft!! Bill gates and his annoying ass word documents not letting you move an img

…you tell ‘em, honey…

Ninastar
19-07-2024, 08:37 AM
Airports Grounding Flights.

All airports?

arista
19-07-2024, 08:37 AM
Microsoft Cloud Service

Ammi
19-07-2024, 08:38 AM
…that’ll surely cause a bit of a backlog of flight delays just as the school term time ends and lots flying off overseas…

Ninastar
19-07-2024, 08:39 AM
…you tell ‘em, honey…

I’m sure my classmates from 15 years ago can back me up on my hatred of billl gates and his technology

arista
19-07-2024, 08:39 AM
All airports?


No
the ones that use Microsoft ONLY


Falcon Software Failed update

Ninastar
19-07-2024, 08:39 AM
Probably just being paranoid but all of these wild things happening in the last week is making me the anxious

Ninastar
19-07-2024, 08:40 AM
Let’s END Microsoft!

Ammi
19-07-2024, 08:41 AM
I’m sure my classmates from 15 years ago can back me up on my hatred of billl gates and his technology

…I have the same or similar hatred for virgin olive oil prices…it’s healthy to have our ‘things’….good for the soul ….

arista
19-07-2024, 08:41 AM
Let’s END Microsoft!


We can not

They are linked into so much

Ninastar
19-07-2024, 08:44 AM
…I have the same or similar hatred for virgin olive oil prices…it’s healthy to have our ‘things’….good for the soul ….

Omfg I know. I went to buy some a week ago and I had to settle for the tiny povvo bottle and it was still $6! Some of them were like $20+ and I wanted to cry

arista
19-07-2024, 08:46 AM
Free coffee and bacon roll in the office for me today because they are cashless and can't take card payments

All the card only people not so clever now :smug:


This why I say make sure you have Cash notes as well

arista
19-07-2024, 08:48 AM
Airports will slow down
as they have no systems.


Asda and Iceland
not affected



SkyNewsHD Live

arista
19-07-2024, 08:50 AM
An overnight Update
Microsoft System went wrong

arista
19-07-2024, 08:51 AM
LibDems
demanding a Cobra Meeting is now needed

Mystic Mock
19-07-2024, 08:51 AM
… Mock’s dad broke the system…?…

:laugh:

That definitely would make us infamous in the whole Midlands region.:joker:

Cherie
19-07-2024, 08:52 AM
This why I say make sure you have Cash notes as well

The cafe was card only, so they wouldn't be able to take your cash

Cherie
19-07-2024, 08:52 AM
Airports will slow down
as they have no systems.


Asda and Iceland
not affected



SkyNewsHD Live

Typical we are left with the dregs

Ammi
19-07-2024, 08:53 AM
Omfg I know. I went to buy some a week ago and I had to settle for the tiny povvo bottle and it was still $6! Some of them were like $20+ and I wanted to cry

…we need to add you to our WhatsApp olive oil rant group…:laugh:…

arista
19-07-2024, 08:53 AM
The cafe was card only, so they wouldn't be able to take your cash


Time
they thought of a backup
for a next time

arista
19-07-2024, 08:57 AM
SkyNewsHD gone to India


Hospital lab tests disrupted
Many will have to take again

bots
19-07-2024, 09:01 AM
i stocked up with cash a couple of days ago, rather good timing :laugh:

arista
19-07-2024, 09:02 AM
i stocked up with cash a couple of days ago, rather good timing :laugh:


Well done

Ninastar
19-07-2024, 09:05 AM
Airports will slow down
as they have no systems.


Asda and Iceland
not affected



SkyNewsHD Live

Asda being the GOAT we know it is

…we need to add you to our WhatsApp olive oil rant group…:laugh:…

That would be lovely! Thank you!

arista
19-07-2024, 09:11 AM
Overnight USA Update
went wrong

arista
19-07-2024, 09:18 AM
LBC Live

Left Winger wants to know
is this one worker
that pushed a key and started this Global IT crash

arista
19-07-2024, 09:20 AM
Windows PC

But reports Apple not working.



Blue Screen of Death.

arista
19-07-2024, 09:35 AM
GP Surgerys


Buggered

arista
19-07-2024, 09:41 AM
The Company
Crowdstrike who is the cheaper supplier
to Microsoft
is to give a statement.

arista
19-07-2024, 09:44 AM
[Microsoft IT outage linked to cyber security firm
Crowdstrike hits airlines, railways, NHS and media
outlets globally – live news]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2024/jul/19/retail-sales-great-britain-slump-12-government-borrowing-june-figure-lowest-2019-horizon-business-live

arista
19-07-2024, 09:46 AM
GP's will issue a Handwritten
prescription.

For the ones that are very ill. Only.



BBCnewsHD

Cherie
19-07-2024, 09:49 AM
The excuse is someone with fat fingers typed the wrong code, is that even possible that there would be no warning flag before you hit send?

arista
19-07-2024, 10:06 AM
The excuse is someone with fat fingers typed the wrong code, is that even possible that there would be no warning flag before you hit send?

It started 5:30AM UK time

Crimson Dynamo
19-07-2024, 10:39 AM
Kathy Gyngell
kathyConWom


With #Microsoft down, several coffee shops and shops that have gladly told us
they can’t accept cash ever again, today have no card machines working and
ARE accepting cash.

Oh so it does have its uses?

#SAVECASH

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS1-2O9XgAAdbWb?format=jpg&name=small

bots
19-07-2024, 10:49 AM
The excuse is someone with fat fingers typed the wrong code, is that even possible that there would be no warning flag before you hit send?

it's human nature to just click OK on an "are you sure" dialog, thats why these things happen all the time.

A lot of the process can be automated, but there is always human interaction at some point in the process

arista
19-07-2024, 11:05 AM
Kathy Gyngell
kathyConWom


With #Microsoft down, several coffee shops and shops that have gladly told us
they can’t accept cash ever again, today have no card machines working and
ARE accepting cash.

Oh so it does have its uses?

#SAVECASH

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS1-2O9XgAAdbWb?format=jpg&name=small


Yes
Cash helps on days like today.

user104658
19-07-2024, 11:12 AM
it's human nature to just click OK on an "are you sure" dialog, thats why these things happen all the time.

A lot of the process can be automated, but there is always human interaction at some point in the process

Not when the code change is potentially site-breaking, let alone globally site-breaking :joker:.

arista
19-07-2024, 11:14 AM
1814234426923991522


Get on TV news you lazy git

Cherie
19-07-2024, 11:45 AM
Guys this is officially serious, Wetherspoons have been affected

arista
19-07-2024, 11:59 AM
Guys this is officially serious, Wetherspoons have been affected



Yes


Blue Screen needs a Technician to visit
to fix.

user104658
19-07-2024, 12:00 PM
Guys this is officially serious, Wetherspoons have been affected

Rishi Sunak left without breakfast :worry:

arista
19-07-2024, 12:00 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS1_zbNXMAAKlIo?format=jpg&name=small


Reporter Kat Timpf
meant go back to NYC


[Trapped in the Milwaukee airport]

Nicky91
19-07-2024, 12:02 PM
Don't Blame Microsoft, they are also victims of this faulty update by that antivirus software Crowdstrike


i had a microsoft edge update this morning, installed just fine, and the store also worked last time i checked this morning, with a microsoft store update also correctly installed this morning



stupid Crowdstrike are fully to blame here, glad i don't have that specific antivirus program then

Nicky91
19-07-2024, 12:04 PM
no wonder they are all focussed on fixing this now, its weekend and no IT personnel wants to spend their weekends being busy fixing up this ****

arista
19-07-2024, 12:09 PM
Don't Blame Microsoft, they are also victims of this faulty update by that antivirus software Crowdstrike


i had a microsoft edge update this morning, installed just fine, and the store also worked last time i checked this morning, with a microsoft store update also correctly installed this morning



stupid Crowdstrike are fully to blame here, glad i don't have that specific antivirus program then


No Nicky
Microsoft changed to a Cheaper outside site
they employ Crowdstrike to update their
Security.


So Microsoft
sacked their internal team
then paid less to the the outside company





Microsoft 100% to blame

Nicky91
19-07-2024, 12:14 PM
well Microsoft couldn't have known that Crowdstrike are of bad quality? given many big companies use that one

arista
19-07-2024, 12:16 PM
well Microsoft couldn't have known that Crowdstrike are of bad quality? given many big companies use that one


Sure but the have Back Ups that Failed

arista
19-07-2024, 12:24 PM
One major problem,
the Airplanes will not take off
unless the other Nation is Accepting them.

Typical
Blue Screen says Recovery in the top
right corner,
and
(it looks like windows hasn't loaded correctly)


But it is not all fixed yet.

Nicky91
19-07-2024, 12:33 PM
according to the NNCSC (dutch national cyber security centre) people who aren't affected by the outage to not install the update, those who are affected need to recover the system manually


this problem is accidental, not intentional


the CEO of Crowdstrike George Kurtz has said the problem has been identified and isolated and they are working on delivering fixes on a global scale




most small hospitals in my nation don't have this problem anymore

arista
19-07-2024, 12:39 PM
London Taxis only taking Cash

No Cash - no journey.

arista
19-07-2024, 12:41 PM
"delivering fixes on a global scale"


Yes Nicky so he should
this accident has caused trouble
across the World.

Vanessa
19-07-2024, 01:09 PM
Everything is working here in Italy. Ryanair said that you can check in at the airport if you're not able online.

hijaxers
19-07-2024, 01:55 PM
Everything is working here in Italy. Ryanair said that you can check in at the airport if you're not able online.

Are you flying today Vanessa ?

arista
19-07-2024, 02:08 PM
No good for a Plane to Depart
until the other nation can accept the plane

CEO Crowdstrike George Kurtz
Looks Rough on his NBC interview
shown on SkyNewsHD

Vanessa
19-07-2024, 02:34 PM
Are you flying today Vanessa ?

No. 8 of August

Livia
19-07-2024, 04:08 PM
Hope they sort it long before we go to see the in-laws, don't want to spend half the trip at the bloody airport.

Crimson Dynamo
19-07-2024, 04:18 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS2tZ84XUAExUtr?format=png&name=900x900

Zizu
19-07-2024, 06:05 PM
No
the ones that use Microsoft ONLY


Falcon Software Failed update


Thats their stock market price screwed


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arista
19-07-2024, 06:09 PM
No. 8 of August


good news

Vanessa
19-07-2024, 07:11 PM
good news

Flights are going from my airport. Here everything normal. Just some delays.

arista
19-07-2024, 09:41 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b476fb70-55f2-4daa-b319-539d5e1b89e3.png

arista
19-07-2024, 09:44 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8d4e53bf-d4cb-420a-8baf-aaa7c2bda030.png

arista
19-07-2024, 09:46 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-334acd30-fa21-48d6-ac06-6a7cb19999a3.png

arista
19-07-2024, 09:48 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-f1383463-9f4b-4dcf-ac12-c9120c89236f.png

arista
19-07-2024, 09:49 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d1b11306-2690-41fc-9199-a5e5858f38f1.png

arista
19-07-2024, 09:52 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-2cd438a0-7c13-4aab-a989-b51a7cf5bf75.png

arista
19-07-2024, 09:54 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-e251ae3f-cb15-4ac5-bc54-96c80dd01e5a.png

arista
19-07-2024, 09:55 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-f6013699-6cd4-445a-8157-7f373ad3572d.jpeg

hijaxers
19-07-2024, 10:44 PM
If footballs affected it'll be hell :laugh:

Maru
20-07-2024, 12:29 AM
I haven't been impacted but IAH/Bush Intercontinental impacted quite a bit. Or at least I saw a map where it had to cancel a lot of flights.

arista
20-07-2024, 09:09 AM
Crowdstrike based in Texas.

Microsoft need to Fire them

Blue Screen on someone's device , needs a technician
to fix it.


This is costing too much money to Correct.

Sack Crowdstrike

Zizu
20-07-2024, 10:50 AM
So won’t Crowdstrike now be liable for the billions of £€$ lost by companies and millions of individual users …. yesterday and in the coming weeks


I would imagine Microsoft will be able to claim zillions in lost potential profits given most seem to think it’s their fault ?


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bots
20-07-2024, 11:55 AM
Crowdstrike wont be liable for a penny :laugh:

user104658
20-07-2024, 12:21 PM
Crowdstrike based in Texas.

Microsoft need to Fire them

Blue Screen on someone's device , needs a technician
to fix it.


This is costing too much money to Correct.

Sack Crowdstrike

Crowdstrike does not work for Microsoft. It's independent security software, that released an update with a bug that happens to crash Windows computers. It has nothing to do with Microsoft other than that the bug in a Windows dll file.

The number if people who think this is a Microsoft/Windows bug is staggering though. Huge reputational damage for Microsoft and they made no error. Lol.

Zizu
20-07-2024, 01:40 PM
Crowdstrike wont be liable for a penny :laugh:


Why not ?


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arista
20-07-2024, 02:17 PM
Already in Australia
Criminals have sent a link to fix the damage,
they then break into your Professional PC or laptop.

bots
20-07-2024, 02:18 PM
it doesn't affect domestic consumers

arista
20-07-2024, 02:27 PM
it doesn't affect domestic consumers


Yes thanks
I added they are Professional

Criminal Hackers Down Under.

hijaxers
20-07-2024, 03:08 PM
Crowdstrike wont be liable for a penny :laugh:

Who is then ?

bots
20-07-2024, 03:51 PM
companies use software at their own risk

user104658
20-07-2024, 04:26 PM
companies use software at their own risk

Correct and that'll be firmly within the EULA of the software.

The thing is - it's not even a complex bug, it's just a bad one because

1) it causes a full system crash until fixed and
2) it requires booting into safe mode or root access to delete the affected file
3) it has to be fixed per-computer and can't be rolled out centrally
4) it's on literally tens of millions of computers
5) it's on a tonne of secure systems, which means the root/safe-mode are usually locked except to tech support people.
6) There are nowhere near enough IT support people to fix so many computers in a short timeframe, if they have to physically go to them one by one.

The fix is really simple. If it happened on your home PC you could fix it in 10 minutes with very simple instructions. But as above... the computers it's on (NHS, airports, financial systems etc.) are locked up tight so even if you disseminate instructions on how to fix it, people don't have the admin privileges needed to apply the fix.

It's a series of small things adding up to a huge problem, basically.

James
20-07-2024, 04:29 PM
It shows how vulnerable these systems are if so many can fail from a single point of failure.

bots
20-07-2024, 04:40 PM
Correct and that'll be firmly within the EULA of the software.

The thing is - it's not even a complex bug, it's just a bad one because

1) it causes a full system crash until fixed and
2) it requires booting into safe mode or root access to delete the affected file
3) it has to be fixed per-computer and can't be rolled out centrally
4) it's on literally tens of millions of computers
5) it's on a tonne of secure systems, which means the root/safe-mode are usually locked except to tech support people.
6) There are nowhere near enough IT support people to fix so many computers in a short timeframe, if they have to physically go to them one by one.

The fix is really simple. If it happened on your home PC you could fix it in 10 minutes with very simple instructions. But as above... the computers it's on (NHS, airports, financial systems etc.) are locked up tight so even if you disseminate instructions on how to fix it, people don't have the admin privileges needed to apply the fix.

It's a series of small things adding up to a huge problem, basically.

just taking airports as a small example. Every gate has a windows computer. Now multiply that to ever airport in the world. Each one now requires tech maintenance. It will take weeks to fix it

user104658
20-07-2024, 04:49 PM
It shows how vulnerable these systems are if so many can fail from a single point of failure.

And from an external source, too. Key systems should NOT be on an immediate automatic update schedule, updates should be rolled out to non-key systems for a few days, at least, to make sure they're stable before being deployed to things like hospitals, airports and banking. For one because of bugs but yeah, for two, in case of deliberate sabotage being rolled out as a trojan horse hiding in a software update.

user104658
20-07-2024, 04:51 PM
just taking airports as a small example. Every gate has a windows computer. Now multiply that to ever airport in the world. Each one now requires tech maintenance. It will take weeks to fix it

If I was an IT tech I'd be grifting for a major pay rise right now :joker:. "Bump my salary 30% permanently and I'll work 16 hour days + weekends for the next two weeks".

bots
20-07-2024, 05:11 PM
When i started working as a software developer decades ago, it was like the wild west, but i loved it, because I was 6 months out of Uni and I literally had the chairman of a FTSE 10 company fetching me a cup of coffee when i needed it :joker:

Zizu
20-07-2024, 06:18 PM
companies use software at their own risk


How did the software companies wangle that little gem ??

Surely the software company involved ( Crowdstrike) willl lose all their customers and crumble ??

Who is gonna trust their software after this almighty guff ?


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bots
20-07-2024, 06:21 PM
How did the software companies wangle that little gem ??

Surely the software company involved ( Crowdstrike) willl lose all their customers and crumble ??

Who is gonna trust their software after this almighty guff ?


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all software is licensed on that basis, it's not something unusual and of course they will retain their customers

Zizu
20-07-2024, 07:14 PM
all software is licensed on that basis, it's not something unusual and of course they will retain their customers


Really ?


I will personally avoid their stuff for the rest of my life !

If they can release what they want with impunity what is to stop terrorists starting a company selling cheap software then bringing the whole system to its knees?


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bots
20-07-2024, 07:27 PM
Really ?


I will personally avoid their stuff for the rest of my life !

If they can release what they want with impunity what is to stop terrorists starting a company selling cheap software then bringing the whole system to its knees?


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they only have corporate clients i believe

user104658
20-07-2024, 07:37 PM
If they can release what they want with impunity what is to stop terrorists starting a company selling cheap software then bringing the whole system to its knees?

That's not really how it works. Recent events notwithstanding - critical infrastructure wouldn't use "cheap software from a new company" only trusted software... CrowdStrike was well regarded.

In other news, I have a "global tech" stocks & shares ISA and it's tanked by 7% :fist:.

Beso
20-07-2024, 08:04 PM
If everyone hadnt left TIBB..we would have been down as well.

Thank you quitters

user104658
20-07-2024, 08:11 PM
If everyone hadnt left TIBB..we would have been down as well.

Thank you quitters

TiBB doesn't use CrowdStrike they have their own proprietary security system for the TiBB servers (James restarts the PC in his bedroom).

Beso
20-07-2024, 08:13 PM
TiBB doesn't use CrowdStrike they have their own proprietary security system for the TiBB servers (James restarts the PC in his bedroom).


:joker:

I hope he waits 30 seconds.


30 seconds james the bb crowd chanted as he rose from his bed for the fifth time that eviction night.