Seizure-dreams

[Redway]

You don’t have to have a history of epilepsy or seizures of any other kind to have dreams of having seizures occasionally, and what’s striking with it is how vividly realistic they can be, almost as-if you’re actually awake and seizing.

Has anyone here had one of those dreams, or something similar?

[Cherie]

No, that sounds terrifying, are they drug induced?

[bots]

i've never even heard of it as a thing

[Ray.]

No, that sounds terrifying, are they drug induced?

Is it true, Redway? Are you on the drugs now? :worry:

[Ninastar]

I get them a lot. They feel so real. Idk if it’s cause I take anti depressants but it could be why. I also die in at least one dream every night. It’s wild

[Ammi]

I get them a lot. They feel so real. Idk if it’s cause I take anti depressants but it could be why. I also die in at least one dream every night. It’s wild

…is it a similar experience to a vivid dream, Caitlin…?…

[Ninastar]

…is it a similar experience to a vivid dream, Caitlin…?…

Yeah, it’s pretty horrible. I think it’s the meds but if I stop taking them, it’s even worse. I mostly have the same dreams over and over, with the occasional new one. I also took melatonin once and it gave me night terrors. Not fun

[Ammi]

Yeah, it’s pretty horrible. I think it’s the meds but if I stop taking them, it’s even worse. I mostly have the same dreams over and over, with the occasional new one. I also took melatonin once and it gave me night terrors. Not fun

…yeah they really are pretty scary things to have and as you say, certain medication side effects can cause them for some people…and I know someone else also who has a same scary dream over and over and it’s pretty exhausting so that in itself can cause sleep disruption…so it all becomes a very layered thing because keeping a good sleep pattern is so important to try to counter those side effects…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Iv not has a dream about him in years

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[UserSince2005]

Iv not has a dream about him in years

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He used to give me a lot of wet dreams too and. And now I look back and think how crazy I was. A man has muscle to be a man.

[Cherie]

Is it true, Redway? Are you on the drugs now? :worry:

Now now, stop stirring Chalk, I meant prescription drugs :laugh:

[Redway]

No, that sounds terrifying, are they drug induced?
I guess that can be the case but they can also just happen. Just like waking paralysis or just-plain nightmares, a lot can go down in the realm of sleep and it can be kinda scary, to put it one way.
I get them a lot. They feel so real. Idk if it’s cause I take anti depressants but it could be why. I also die in at least one dream every night. It’s wild

Do you take amitriptyline?

[Mystic Mock]

I tend to get either violent nightmares or downright odd dreams.

Seizure dreams are more in the tragic in an everyday life sort of way, my dreams don't really work like that.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I guess that can be the case but they can also just happen. Just like waking paralysis or just-plain nightmares, a lot can go down in the realm of sleep and it can be kinda scary, to put it one way.


Do you take amitriptyline?

I've had Sleep Paralysis in the past.

It's horrible when you're awake and you can't move your body, my mind always thinks of the worst scenarios aswell, so it's not a good combination.

[Redway]

When sleep-seizures actually do happen for-real, some people dream that they’re fighting random people (maybe their arch-nemeses in real life; who knows?) when in reality it’s paramedics, who are obviously just trying to get them into an ambulance rather than kidnap them.

I mention amitriptyline because certain medications, including tricyclic antidepressants (which amitriptyline is part of), can decrease your body’s seizure-threshold but it’s not so-much amitriptyline that does that. Clomipramine, amoxapine and especially maprotiline (other tricyclics) are the worst offenders there and seizures can easily happen in overdose. The risk of that happening with amitriptyline per-se is pretty low, like. But it can happen. Rarely.

Trimipramine’s unique in the sense that unlike most antidepressants (tricyclics, SSRIs, venlafaxine; you name it), it doesn’t disturb REM/sleep-architecture. To the contrary, some people say it even brightens dreams. Quite a bit. It’s quite a niche antidepressant that’s tucked away in the corner but works wonders for people who actively need to improve sleep and (sometimes) dreams. I’m sure it can be taken with Prozac, for what it’s worth.

[Ninastar]

I guess that can be the case but they can also just happen. Just like waking paralysis or just-plain nightmares, a lot can go down in the realm of sleep and it can be kinda scary, to put it one way.


Do you take amitriptyline?

I had to go and look cause I never remember. But no, I take fluoxetine

[Redway]

I had to go and look cause I never remember. But no, I take fluoxetine

Still getting dream-seizures, Caitlyn?

[Beso]

I've been what feels like awake, yet unable to move or turn around out of sheer terror of what's behind me in the past.(Like a really strong sensation that somethings in the bed with you)

Usually a few days after a weekend bender of drink ecstasy and acid.

This was before marriage.


They came back after I lost my marriage and my son, but this time I had to deal with it with a sober mind.

I told a friend about this during covid and he suffered similar things due to PTSD. He was able to get his hands on an American drug called ambient, or ambien.Something like that.

I took a 3 month self prescribed nightime dosage of 2 and never had a problem since.

[Ninastar]

Still getting dream-seizures, Caitlyn?

Actually I’m on a new med now and you know what… i don’t get them at all anymore. I genuinely forgot that I even had those dreams

I still have a lot of dreams where I’m dying in a painful way and I can like feel it happening. Like for some reason I dreams I was shot or stabbed and I could feel the blood gushing from my body and it felt really warm

Idk if that’s how it actually feels or not as that has never happened to me… but yeah it’s weird

[Redway]

Actually I’m on a new med now and you know what… i don’t get them at all anymore. I genuinely forgot that I even had those dreams

I still have a lot of dreams where I’m dying in a painful way and I can like feel it happening. Like for some reason I dreams I was shot or stabbed and I could feel the blood gushing from my body and it felt really warm

Idk if that’s how it actually feels or not as that has never happened to me… but yeah it’s weird

That’s real.-rough. I’d say I can’t imagine how difficult it must be for you but then I probably actually kinda can.

:hug:

Listen, have you ever tried prazosin (a med. that can reduce nightmares)?

[Crimson Dynamo]

stop advising people to take pointless drugs

you are not a doctor FFS

[Redway]

stop advising people to take pointless drugs

you are not a doctor FFS

And you don’t know the first thing about dream-psychology or mental health. People are allowed to talk and ask relevant questions. That’s not the same thing as giving someone advice directly. It’s just imploring about what options someone may or may not have tried. And speaking on that note comes from a special place of empathy when you know and have experienced first-hand the limitations of the system and have had to self-advocate immensely just to get anywhere on certain notes. Me and my misophonia, for-example; for all the research that’s gone into it and virtual seminars that are being had on it between Amsterdam, China and the University of South Carolina, it’s not even officially diagnosable as-of yet, so “go see your GP” is not a solution; if anything, their lack of knowledge and understanding beyond what they can standardise on a generic primary-care level is part of the problem. It’s a privilege to be able to blindly trust the system but not everyone has that privilege and they have the right to exchange ideas and information based on that.

That’s still not the same thing as actively telling people what to do. Alright? It’s empathic inquiry, not instruction. And I mean that in the most humble, non-flowery way possible. If you had the kind of background and experiences people like me and Caitlyn have had, I’m sure you’d appreciate the context a lot more.

So whether you have a Master’s (even PhD) in pharmaceutical chemistry and work as a psychiatric nurse or you’re just a lay person who reads Reddit and talks a little about your personal experiences with hyperacusis or post-traumatic nightmares, that personal experience and exchange of insight is indispensable. Doctors can’t fix everything, and even when they have the power to, sometimes the light-bulb lies in the hands of patients themselves while the systems catch up. I’m not saying that’s necessarily the case here but the point is, doctors only know what they know. They’re not magicians and they have huge limitations. And you can’t call the shots on what the discourse should be without knowing the people involved and their circumstances, experience and backgrounds (not necessarily even just qualifications). There’s a line between relevant questions and validation of those experiences and forcibly giving advice. I don’t have the authority to do that on the Internet, Samaritans don’t have the authority to do that over the ’phone, but the one thing we can do is talk about it. It does no harm.

And for what it’s worth, prazosin is far from pointless from a nightmares-context. Not suitable for everyone, sure, but, again, I didn’t come with that advisory authority. It’s worthy of a subtle mention without crossing the line.

[Ninastar]

stop advising people to take pointless drugs

you are not a doctor FFS

These pointless drugs have helped lessen the voices in my head telling me to kill myself and that no one would miss me

Anti depressants don’t cure anything, they just lessen the pain we think through our brains 24/7

I mean I’m not to speak for everyone, I’m sure everyone has a different experience than me

[Crimson Dynamo]

These pointless drugs have helped lessen the voices in my head telling me to kill myself and that no one would miss me

Anti depressants don’t cure anything, they just lessen the pain we think through our brains 24/7

I mean I’m not to speak for everyone, I’m sure everyone has a different experience than me

Andxa doctor prescribed them

[Redway]

These pointless drugs have helped lessen the voices in my head telling me to kill myself and that no one would miss me

Anti depressants don’t cure anything, they just lessen the pain we think through our brains 24/7

I mean I’m not to speak for everyone, I’m sure everyone has a different experience than me

Just ignore CD. He’s got nothing worthwhile to contribute. It’s just bait. I just thought I’d put it out there on his square how “pointless” his comment was. He probably won’t read it but y’know. That’s not our problem.

I’m glad the medication’s helped. :love:

[Redway]

Andxa doctor prescribed them

You just don’t get it, do you?