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A police officer has been filmed kicking and stamping on the head of a man lying on the ground at Manchester Airport.
The uniformed male officer is seen holding a Taser over the man, who is lying face down, before striking him twice while other officers shout at onlookers to stay back in a video shared widely online.
Greater Manchester Police said firearms officers had been attacked while attempting to arrest someone following a fight in the airport's Terminal 2 on Tuesday.
The force said it “acknowledges the concerns of the conduct within the video”, which is being looked into by its professionals standards directorate.
Firearms officers had been called to the airport after reports of an altercation by members of the public, a police spokesman said.
Three officers were “punched to the ground” in a “violent assault” when they attempted to arrest one of the suspects, he added.
“As the attending officers were firearms officers, there was a clear risk during this assault of their firearms being taken from them."
Four men were arrested at the scene for affray and assaulting emergency service workers.
Three officers were taken to hospital for treatment, with one of them suffering a broken nose.
Amar Minhas from Leeds was coming through arrivals when he saw the scene unfold.
He told the BBC police had approached one of the men, in his early 20s, and told him he was a wanted man, before “they pinned him up against a wall”.
Another man then “started on the police” and a fight ensued, he said.
The man who was being pinned against the wall started “throwing punches, he was Tasered, and fell to the floor”, Mr Minhas said.
“That’s when the policeman kicked him”.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7259wpl1x9o
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This is insane! Police shouting no cameras loool
Oliver_W
24-07-2024, 07:25 PM
He's lucky he wasn't just shot dead - trying to take firearms from officers is risky business, as is hospitalising three firearms officers.
The people there to defend the innocent would probably be in less hot water right now if they had just shot him tbh.
Unfortunatly the video will be used by extremist muslims to stir up tensions.
Livia
24-07-2024, 09:03 PM
I agree with Oliver, he's lucky he wasn't shot dead.
arista
24-07-2024, 11:55 PM
One Officer who used his Foot
has been sent home.
Suspended.
Cherie
25-07-2024, 07:37 AM
Who in their right mind starts a fight with a firearms officer? I am assuming no alcohol was involved, that said stamping on his head was unnecessary
Cherie
25-07-2024, 09:01 AM
Prior to this a female colleague had her nose broken.... not a justification as he lost control in that instance but a human reaction I guess to a colleague being assaulted
Livia
25-07-2024, 09:20 AM
Cynical how this video was posted but not what happened before. The officer is a human being, not a robot. It amazes me that the initial aggressor has become the victim.
Livia
25-07-2024, 09:20 AM
Prior to this a female colleague had her nose broken.... not a justification as he lost control in that instance but a human reaction I guess to a colleague being assaulted
No video of that though.
Mystic Mock
25-07-2024, 09:23 AM
Cynical how this video was posted but not what happened before. The officer is a human being, not a robot. It amazes me that the initial aggressor has become the victim.
I suppose tbf people are going to hold an Officer of the law to a higher standard than a scumbag that likes to get physically aggressive towards women.
Livia
25-07-2024, 09:26 AM
I suppose tbf people are going to hold an Officer of the law to a higher standard than a scumbag that likes to get physically aggressive towards women.
Especially if the only clip we see is the officer being aggressive and ignore what went before.
Cherie
25-07-2024, 09:29 AM
There were protests outside Rochdale Police Station last night? why the guy is obviously a scumbag?
https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-protesters-gather-outside-rochdale-police-station-after-video-shows-officer-stamping-on-mans-head-13184584
Mystic Mock
25-07-2024, 09:30 AM
Especially if the only clip we see is the officer being aggressive and ignore what went before.
That is also true tbf.
There were protests outside Rochdale Police Station last night? why the guy is obviously a scumbag?
https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-protesters-gather-outside-rochdale-police-station-after-video-shows-officer-stamping-on-mans-head-13184584
I think the media have a negative effect on all these attacks/ events/ incidents
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Liam-
25-07-2024, 11:21 AM
No matter what happened before, there’s no excuse for an officer to kick someone, who’s not resisting, in the face and then stamp on the back of his head
arista
25-07-2024, 11:26 AM
No matter what happened before, there’s no excuse for an officer to kick someone, who’s not resisting, in the face and then stamp on the back of his head
He has been suspended
Niamh.
25-07-2024, 11:29 AM
No matter what happened before, there’s no excuse for an officer to kick someone, who’s not resisting, in the face and then stamp on the back of his head
Absolutely. Are they Police officers or are they vigilantes? The guy was on the floor not moving, why didn't he handcuff him? There is no excuse for someone in his position to kick a guy in the head while he's on the ground and not attacking him.
Niamh.
25-07-2024, 11:32 AM
Cynical how this video was posted but not what happened before. The officer is a human being, not a robot. It amazes me that the initial aggressor has become the victim.
That's the Police Officers fault, Police have to be held to a higher standard than joe public, it's literally their job. Their job isn't to get vengeance for the victim, it's to arrest the guy so he can be charged and brought before a court. I'm not defending the guy for a second but the Police have to be better than that, that's what they're trained for, other wise it would be the wild west
What if the guy was wearing a bomb or holding a dangerous weapon .. the police would be at a crazy stress level and just want to nullify the danger
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He should have put his arm behind his back instead of resisting by keeping it hidden under his belly.
GoldHeart
25-07-2024, 12:01 PM
Prior to this a female colleague had her nose broken.... not a justification as he lost control in that instance but a human reaction I guess to a colleague being assaulted
I was wondering what caused this , I mean it's OTT and isn't exactly professional ...but not unprovoked.
Still Excessive force like this can't really be justified, when police catch worse criminals they don't get treated this badly. So it really is crazy .
GoldHeart
25-07-2024, 12:04 PM
What if the guy was wearing a bomb or holding a dangerous weapon .. the police would be at a crazy stress level and just want to nullify the danger
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Funny thing is he'd be treated with kid gloves if he was a terrorist,as that if he was wearing a bomb....they couldn't just start brutally beating him up .
Niamh.
25-07-2024, 12:07 PM
He should have put his arm behind his back instead of resisting by keeping it hidden under his belly.
His hand was by his side when the Police officer kicked him in the head
Crimson Dynamo
25-07-2024, 12:21 PM
Its pretty obvious the copper just lost his temper dont need a 3 month enquiry and endless meetings. Say sorry and get these scumbags in jail asap
GoldHeart
25-07-2024, 12:28 PM
Its pretty obvious the copper just lost his temper dont need a 3 month enquiry and endless meetings. Say sorry and get these scumbags in jail asap
You can't afford to lose your temper as a cop ,think of the reputation. Cops have been spat on and everything...and they are supposed to still remain calm, obviously they're human. But losing control to this degree isn't a good look.
Crimson Dynamo
25-07-2024, 12:32 PM
You can't afford to lose your temper as a cop ,think of the reputation. Cops have been spat on and everything...and they are supposed to still remain calm, obviously they're human. But losing control to this degree isn't a good look.
Did you see that horse bite that silly woman's tit at the palace the other day!:shocked:
I was wondering what caused this , I mean it's OTT and isn't exactly professional ...but not unprovoked.
Still Excessive force like this can't really be justified, when police catch worse criminals they don't get treated this badly. So it really is crazy .
So breaking a woman’s nose isn’t excessive force ?
You reap what you sow ..
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You can't afford to lose your temper as a cop ,think of the reputation. Cops have been spat on and everything...and they are supposed to still remain calm, obviously they're human. But losing control to this degree isn't a good look.
If he’s seen his friend/colleague roughed up and badly hurt ( female as well) then maybe he just got angry . .. understandably so imho
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the policeman is supposed to be a trained professional, but he obviously isn't because he lost his temper and could have killed the guy in anger. That's why he was suspended. It doesn't matter what happened prior to the video.
Niamh.
25-07-2024, 12:39 PM
So breaking a woman’s nose isn’t excessive force ?
You reap what you sow ..
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Of course it is but he's the criminal, that's why he's being arrested. Comparing the actions of the actual criminal with Police is putting them on equal footing, which they are not and absolutely should not be.
…’I’m sorry, but the police officer just lost his temper…’…doesn't at all instil any confidence in a police force that are becoming all too often scrutinised for their behaviour…it’s good to see that no excuses are being made by the police and the officer has been removed from all duties…his behaviour was of a thug/no more no less…and maybe the guy in the ground had also shown behaviour of a thug previously to the footage we’ve seen…?..but two thugs don’t make it right or make a law and order society of any type of public confidence…
the policeman is supposed to be a trained professional, but he obviously isn't because he lost his temper and could have killed the guy in anger. That's why he was suspended. It doesn't matter what happened prior to the video.
…but then, the police can be a very rare presence in current times so where would be the confidence in training being what it should be also…
Cherie
25-07-2024, 12:50 PM
Its not just losing his temper though is it, 3 officers where hurt in the scuffle before hand one with a broken nose, we would all be crying if this guy got up and managed to get a gun off one of the officers and started shooting randomly, it was excessive and he did lose control but it was a heated situation and not one any of us has any experience of being in, if it emerges he has form for this then that is a different story, the whole story is now focussed on the police man and not on the people who were originally fighting in the terminal where it should be, bit of balance from the media would be nice
GoldHeart
25-07-2024, 12:58 PM
So breaking a woman’s nose isn’t excessive force ?
You reap what you sow ..
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Zizu in what world did I condone a cop getting her nose broken,but if anything ...that gives them an even better reason to arrest and charge him, sure use force ....but kicking someone in their head really?. Isn't assault on police already a hefty punishment of some kind anyway?. So they would have already been able to get their justice .
But having said that... we're not seeing the full video, and I wasn't there . Emotions & stress run high . There's no way I could be a cop.
If someone broke my nose , I'd be tempted to take it out on them.
Gusto Brunt
25-07-2024, 01:03 PM
The thug won't get an sympathy from me.
The thug being the **** who assaulted the police and broke a young lady police officer's jaw. :mad:
The officer obviously did the kicking out of anger. He should have controlled his anger but I don't blame him.
GoldHeart
25-07-2024, 01:05 PM
Its not just losing his temper though is it, 3 officers where hurt in the scuffle before hand one with a broken nose, we would all be crying if this guy got up and managed to get a gun off one of the officers and started shooting randomly, it was excessive and he did lose control but it was a heated situation and not one any of us has any experience of being in, if it emerges he has form for this then that is a different story, the whole story is now focussed on the police man and not on the people who were originally fighting in the terminal where it should be, bit of balance from the media would be nice
Police are scrutinized more these days due to so many bad stories we hear of people getting wrongly shot , tazered and other excessive force situations.
So now unfortunately it will dominate how the police officer was in the wrong more than the actual criminal. Cops are trained to remain calm under pressure and they have a responsibility to the public and themselves...and yes they should use force but not go crazy. Having said that ... I'm not sure how I would react to a friend colleague getting their nose broken,but then I'm not a police officer so it's a different thing.
Usually if a criminal lashes out ...they should cuff them instantly,but it sounds like it got too heated and the criminal wouldn't have made it easy.
what if the policeman had put his knee on the guys neck and crushed his windpipe? It's not a large leap from kicking someone in the head, is it
The thug won't get an sympathy from me.
The thug being the **** who assaulted the police and broke a young lady police officer's jaw. :mad:
The officer obviously did the kicking out of anger. He should have controlled his anger but I don't blame him.
…I don’t think anyone is getting any ‘sympathy’…it isn’t about that, its about the excessive force and violent behaviour shown by a police officer when the person being arrested was on the ground….our police officers showing self gratifying violence isn’t surely a look that any of us should hope to see…
Livia
25-07-2024, 01:09 PM
The police are human being, prone to all the emotions humans have. They take endless sh1t from scum every day and when one loses it momentarily, someone posts the video and everyone sets themselves up as judge and jury and people protest in the streets. One day I'd like to see them all jack in the job at the same time... See how we feel about them then.
…anyway, the force are taking it very seriously and taking appropriate action against the officer, which is what we would expect also…they’re aware of events/actions leading up to but also know that the behaviour displayed wasn’t what they’d expect from their officer…
anyone who is trained in combat knows that the moment you get angry, you have lost the battle. Thats why they have all the problems in america.
anyone who is trained in combat knows that the moment you get angry, you have lost the battle. Thats why they have all the problems in america.
…for sure…not just visible anger but action on that anger in such a physical/violent way won’t instil any confidence in a police force that is needed…
Crimson Dynamo
25-07-2024, 01:28 PM
anyone who is trained in combat knows that the moment you get angry, you have lost the battle. Thats why they have all the problems in america.
Yes Grasshopper
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His hand was by his side when the Police officer kicked him in the head
He has 2 arms...
Niamh.
25-07-2024, 01:41 PM
He has 2 arms...
You can't even see his other arm
You can't even see his other arm
Eye witnesses have confirmed.
Niamh.
25-07-2024, 01:52 PM
Eye witnesses have confirmed.
Where did they confirm that?
Cherie
25-07-2024, 01:57 PM
I wonder where he was headed and if not travelling alone, if they went on without him, if he was a normal human and sat reading his book or scrolling through TiBB instead of starting fights he would be at his destination now :hee:
Oliver_W
25-07-2024, 02:05 PM
normal human
scrolling through TiBB
Whut.
Cherie
25-07-2024, 02:50 PM
Whut.
maybe I should have said dysfunctional :think:
They were released after a few hours.
Back amongst us.
I saw a video of them in the early hours of this morning, claiming they're gonna be sueing the law.
Police are scrutinized more these days due to so many bad stories we hear of people getting wrongly shot , tazered and other excessive force situations.
So now unfortunately it will dominate how the police officer was in the wrong more than the actual criminal. Cops are trained to remain calm under pressure and they have a responsibility to the public and themselves...and yes they should use force but not go crazy. Having said that ... I'm not sure how I would react to a friend colleague getting their nose broken,but then I'm not a police officer so it's a different thing.
Usually if a criminal lashes out ...they should cuff them instantly,but it sounds like it got too heated and the criminal wouldn't have made it easy.
Just heard reports of a vicious attack on three officers, one a young woman who had her face smashed in and nose broken so if he’s done that then he can fek right off - I have zero sympathy.
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…I don’t think anyone is getting any ‘sympathy’…it isn’t about that, its about the excessive force and violent behaviour shown by a police officer when the person being arrested was on the ground….our police officers showing self gratifying violence isn’t surely a look that any of us should hope to see…
We cannot begin to imagine how difficult the police job is these days.. I turn over whenever I see them being abused on the streets in every day situation so gawd knows how they cope in vicious assaults on their colleagues and friends.
I wouldn’t last the weekend if I were a cop nowadays
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The thug won't get an sympathy from me.
The thug being the **** who assaulted the police and broke a young lady police officer's jaw. :mad:
The officer obviously did the kicking out of anger. He should have controlled his anger but I don't blame him.
Same
The bloody country has gone mad .. vicious thugs , terrorised, religious extremism, drunk drugged youths on every street in the country yet everyone and their aunties hate on the people who protect us on a daily basis
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AnnieK
25-07-2024, 03:08 PM
It seems ridiculously excessive from the clip. Especially with the one punch kills cases recently. A kick to the head and a stamp of the head of anyone is excessive in any situation and could have killed the guy on the floor.
Obviously, there is no context and we have no idea of what went on to escalate it to that but it seems like a complete loss of control from the officer.
Zizu in what world did I condone a cop getting her nose broken,but if anything ...that gives them an even better reason to arrest and charge him, sure use force ....but kicking someone in their head really?. Isn't assault on police already a hefty punishment of some kind anyway?. So they would have already been able to get their justice .
But having said that... we're not seeing the full video, and I wasn't there . Emotions & stress run high . There's no way I could be a cop.
If someone broke my nose , I'd be tempted to take it out on them.
I wasn’t having a go at you .. You only referred to the excessive force of the copper and didn’t consider the vicious assaults leading up to the few seconds of the extremely blurry footage which shows nothing that conclusively
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Its not just losing his temper though is it, 3 officers where hurt in the scuffle before hand one with a broken nose, we would all be crying if this guy got up and managed to get a gun off one of the officers and started shooting randomly, it was excessive and he did lose control but it was a heated situation and not one any of us has any experience of being in, if it emerges he has form for this then that is a different story, the whole story is now focussed on the police man and not on the people who were originally fighting in the terminal where it should be, bit of balance from the media would be nice
Yes exactly !
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Niamh.
25-07-2024, 03:13 PM
Same
The bloody country has gone mad .. vicious thugs , terrorised, religious extremism, drunk drugged youths on every street in the country yet everyone and their aunties hate on the people who protect us on a daily basis
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That isn't what people are saying though, come on. Everyone knows that kicking a person in the head while they're down can kill, same with stamping on the back of someones head, so much so both these things are illegal moves in MMA and if you did this to someone in a street fight and the person died you'd be charged with manslaughter. So it's extremely bad when it's done by a person in authority. No one is saying they shouldn't have used force, but what the cop did literally could have killed this man who was already down
1816232757363892315Can anyone explain to me who this "we" are that this guy is talking about here? Because I just don't know.
It seems ridiculously excessive from the clip. Especially with the one punch kills cases recently. A kick to the head and a stamp of the head of anyone is excessive in any situation and could have killed the guy on the floor.
Obviously, there is no context and we have no idea of what went on to escalate it to that but it seems like a complete loss of control from the officer.
Reading online comments its clear that our society in general simply hate the police - many online suggested this attack took place in front of his wife and children and the attack was unprovoked .. totally fabulous nonsense
Thats the type of bollox that spreads even more hatred
I will admit it doesn’t look good on the face of it though the footage I saw was inconclusive and blurry - he may have kicked and then stood on the attacker’s hand holding a knife or gun …
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That isn't what people are saying though, come on. Everyone knows that kicking a person in the head while they're down can kill, same with stamping on the back of someones head, so much so both these things are illegal moves in MMA and if you did this to someone in a street fight and the person died you'd be charged with manslaughter. So it's extremely bad when it's done by a person in authority. No one is saying they shouldn't have used force, but what the cop did literally could have killed this man who was already down
Just check on Twitter X , TikTok or whatever
Thats exactly what is being spread around
To your last point I don’t think either one was life threatening .. just painful
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Niamh.
25-07-2024, 03:19 PM
Just check on Twitter X , TikTok or whatever
Thats exactly what is being spread around
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I'm talking about on this thread
For Zizu..
Better quality for you.
https://youtu.be/HUj8dVZkhCU?si=rg-VNTnAWLmtsItI
For Zizu..
Better quality for you.
https://youtu.be/HUj8dVZkhCU?si=rg-VNTnAWLmtsItI
Ta
Yeah looks bad .. painful but neither were life threatening.. thats just scaremongering
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I'm talking about on this thread
Well I clearly wasn’t …
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AnnieK
25-07-2024, 03:27 PM
Ta
Yeah looks bad .. painful but neither were life threatening.. thats just scaremongering
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Any blow to the head, however minor can lead to death or serious injury, however innocuous
They were released after a few hours.
Back amongst us.
I saw a video of them in the early hours of this morning, claiming they're gonna be sueing the law.This is a picture and story of the video I saw this morning.
My assumption is the guy on your right as you look at the picture is the victim. The guy on your left is his innocent friend. The guy in the middle is the lawyer.
The lawyer will be taking them to hospital as soon as they put this message out.
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Niamh.
25-07-2024, 03:30 PM
Well I clearly wasn’t …
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Why post that here then? people posting on X or wherever you're talking about can't respond to you from here. You like combat sports so I'm sure you are well aware of the dangers of stamping on someones head or kicking a guy in the head who is already on the ground
This is Manchester. Can't we just invite Miley Cyrus over and put on a concert with a message of "Don't look back in anger?" That seemed to bring peace when children were blown up to death at at a pop concert in Manchester.
Why post that here then? people posting on X or wherever you're talking about can't respond to you from here. You like combat sports so I'm sure you are well aware of the dangers of stamping on someones head or kicking a guy in the head who is already on the ground
You want us to post about things only said in this thread or forum ????
I made it clear that I was referring to the general public …” the whole world and their aunties “ but why would I expect a response from anyone anyway ??
You also watch combat sports and know that the sharp kick and stamp wouldn’t even register in a UFC fight .. definitely not life threatening
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Niamh.
25-07-2024, 03:49 PM
You want us to post about things only said in this thread or forum ????
I made it clear that I was referring to the general public …” the whole world and their aunties “ but why would I expect a response from anyone anyway ??
You also watch combat sports and know that the sharp kick and stamp wouldn’t even register in a UFC fight .. definitely not life threatening
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It wouldn't happen in a UFC fight because the person would be disqualified if they did either of the things the Cop did because they're illegal moves.....because they're so dangerous
rusticgal
25-07-2024, 04:10 PM
The Officer was wrong to do what he did...no excuse whatsoever. But as usual we only see a clip and do not get to see the bigger picture. Funny that...!!!
Liam-
25-07-2024, 04:14 PM
If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant
We cannot begin to imagine how difficult the police job is these days.. I turn over whenever I see them being abused on the streets in every day situation so gawd knows how they cope in vicious assaults on their colleagues and friends.
I wouldn’t last the weekend if I were a cop nowadays
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…what we do know is that those assaults are answerable to the law and that any police officer is not above that law or exempt from that themselves…if/when their actions are excessive they’re equally accountable…whatever happened before and in the lead up etc…those using violence are answerable, which I believe two were arrested… but that doesn’t change that the police officer also has that same answerability for his own actions when someone was in the floor and vulnerable…
Niamh.
25-07-2024, 04:17 PM
If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant
Exactly. What he actually did was martyr the guy who was probably behaving very very badly beforehand. If that guy doesn't get punished/dealt with by the law as harshly as he should it will most likely be because of that cops actions.
Andy Burnham has just said
“ this is not a clear cut incident and we need to remain calm ! “
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GoldHeart
25-07-2024, 05:04 PM
Exactly. What he actually did was martyr the guy who was probably behaving very very badly beforehand. If that guy doesn't get punished/dealt with by the law as harshly as he should it will most likely be because of that cops actions.
Yeah I can see the guy getting let off now ,it will probably get brushed off him assaulting a cop due to the other cop's actions unfortunately.
Interestingly in the light of Burnham’s comments TalkSport are now saying “ an officer was shown kicking a man at Manchester airport “ as opposed to “ a police officer was shown kicking and stamping on a man’s head”
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If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevantYeah, we should just forget all about what was happening leading up to this and never speak of it again.
That way, at least we personally won't be racists , and that's the main thing.
Crimson Dynamo
25-07-2024, 05:59 PM
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Obviously never seen an episode of The Sweeney
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smudgie
25-07-2024, 06:03 PM
Disgusting behaviour.
Absolutely no excuse for that violence.
He needs sacking pronto.:fist:
Oliver_W
25-07-2024, 06:04 PM
Is it really inexcusable? It's certainly a bit of an overreaction, but when a man hospitalises three women and tries to take firearms from officers of the law, instinct can take over.
Cherie
25-07-2024, 06:16 PM
Is it really inexcusable? It's certainly a bit of an overreaction, but when a man hospitalises three women and tries to take firearms from officers of the law, instinct can take over.
Indeed and I dont think this would be an issue if the guy was white, there wouldn't be any protests ....what are they protesting about? if the guy was randomly kicked in the head I could understand, but attacking police at an airport, he has been suspended so what exactly do they want now, let the investigation take place and then stage your protest if you are not happy with the outcome, anyway Burnham has said he has seen the full footage and its more complex than it appears so lets just wait and see
rusticgal
25-07-2024, 06:27 PM
If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant
No they are not….lets see what behaviour he committed in front of his family and judge him on that.
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Lawyers can fek off as well
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It wouldn't happen in a UFC fight because the person would be disqualified if they did either of the things the Cop did because they're illegal moves.....because they're so dangerous
A kick to the neck/head area is applauded in UFC especially if it results in an instant knockout
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Obviously never seen an episode of The Sweeney
:joker:
Jack Regan was a fabulous character
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Is it really inexcusable? It's certainly a bit of an overreaction, but when a man hospitalises three women and tries to take firearms from officers of the law, instinct can take over.
Exactly plus the cop is only human
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Liam-
25-07-2024, 06:49 PM
No they are not….lets see what behaviour he committed in front of his family and judge him on that.
Whatever he did, does not take away a cop trying to stamp his head through the floor, when he was tased and not resisting
The Officer was wrong to do what he did...no excuse whatsoever. But as usual we only see a clip and do not get to see the bigger picture. Funny that...!!!
The bigger picture is someone rammed their mum with a trolley, they wernt happy and started a fight with the person. The cops got involved and took the side of the person who rammed with the trolley. They found out one of them was wanted by the police and tried to arrest him, a fight then ensued with the police leading to the armed police needing to get involved because of its ferocity, that is what we then see in the video.:wavey:
Niamh.
25-07-2024, 07:13 PM
A kick to the neck/head area is applauded in UFC especially if it results in an instant knockout
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProA kick or stamp to the head while the opponent is on the floor and the kicker/stamper is standing is an illegal move, are you sure you're fan?
Whatever he did, does not take away a cop trying to stamp his head through the floor, when he was tased and not resisting
Slight exaggeration
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GiRTh
25-07-2024, 07:53 PM
We dont know what happened prior to the incident but there are levels of escalation. I hope the officers didnt bypass a few.
A kick or stamp to the head while the opponent is on the floor and the kicker/stamper is standing is an illegal move, are you sure you're fan?
I’m not discussing laws or rules .. just that UFC is far more violent than anything in that clip yet you love UFC
The short , sharp kick and stamp were meant to hurt but not injure seriously I would say
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rusticgal
25-07-2024, 07:54 PM
Whatever he did, does not take away a cop trying to stamp his head through the floor, when he was tased and not resisting
I agree it’s wrong….but does that make it ok to attack 3 policewomen with all 3 ending up in hospital..1 with a broken nose?…
The bigger picture is someone rammed their mum with a trolley, they wernt happy and started a fight with the person. The cops got involved and took the side of the person who rammed with the trolley. They found out one of them was wanted by the police and tried to arrest him, a fight then ensued with the police leading to the armed police needing to get involved because of its ferocity, that is what we then see in the video.:wavey:
Wanted by the police ??
So not an angelic member of the public then ..
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Niamh.
25-07-2024, 07:58 PM
I’m not discussing laws or rules .. just that UFC is far more violent than anything in that clip yet you love UFC
The short , sharp kick and stamp were meant to hurt but not injure seriously I would say
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProThey're illegal moves because they're too dangerous is my point. I would have thought most people would know that
Liam-
25-07-2024, 08:00 PM
I agree it’s wrong….but does that make it ok to attack 3 policewomen with all 3 ending up in hospital..1 with a broken nose?…
Absolutely not, but that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable, or justifiable to stamp on the head of somebody, laying prone and not resisting, so whatever happened before, is entirely irrelevant to this officers gross assault
Cherie
25-07-2024, 08:01 PM
I agree it’s wrong….but does that make it ok to attack 3 policewomen with all 3 ending up in hospital..1 with a broken nose?…
Guess he was a tough guy when attacking women
rusticgal
25-07-2024, 09:09 PM
Guess he was a tough guy when attacking women
…but this point is being ignored and sidelined which is my point.
It’s appalling what the officer did…but what the offender did was equally appalling.
Liam-
25-07-2024, 09:22 PM
The offender didn’t take an oath to protect and serve, cops that use their power to assault unarmed, prone civilians should absolutely be held to a higher standard
Mystic Mock
25-07-2024, 09:54 PM
Of course it is but he's the criminal, that's why he's being arrested. Comparing the actions of the actual criminal with Police is putting them on equal footing, which they are not and absolutely should not be.
I agree.
rusticgal
25-07-2024, 09:55 PM
The offender didn’t take an oath to protect and serve, cops that use their power to assault unarmed, prone civilians should absolutely be held to a higher standard
I think you will find by the comments we all agree on that….but you can’t ignore what is apparent that inappropriate offences happened before that by the ‘victim’.
GoldHeart
25-07-2024, 10:07 PM
I think you will find by the comments we all agree on that….but you can’t ignore what is apparent that inappropriate offences happened before that by the ‘victim’.
And sadly more & more police officers will continue to get spat on & attacked who are just doing their job.
Mystic Mock
25-07-2024, 10:10 PM
Just check on Twitter X , TikTok or whatever
Thats exactly what is being spread around
To your last point I don’t think either one was life threatening .. just painful
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I don't trust TikTok on anything.
Besides Jessica Meuse's Music, and Farage saying KRO! The rest of them think that they're Vampires, or fake having Cancer.
Mystic Mock
25-07-2024, 10:17 PM
Interestingly in the light of Burnham’s comments TalkSport are now saying “ an officer was shown kicking a man at Manchester airport “ as opposed to “ a police officer was shown kicking and stamping on a man’s head”
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Why is TalkSport talking about a crime in Manchester?
The clue is kind of in the Station's name on what they should be discussing.
The people that were arrested were all from Rochdale, so it doesn't take a wild guess know what their agenda was.
That doesn't excuse the use of excessive force, a law that every person in the uk is subject to no matter what job they are in
Mystic Mock
25-07-2024, 10:30 PM
If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant
I wouldn't say completely irrelevant because context matters in most crimes.
For example if a Wife killed her Husband because he was physically abusing her, I don't believe that the law should be judging her by the same standard as a cold blooded killer that finds killing fun.
Ultimately he does have to be punished (because obviously we can't have Police Officers losing control) but the context here is possibly explaining away why he did what he did, and if found to be true it also makes him a more sympathetic figure than the Officer that killed Sarah Everard for example.
Mystic Mock
25-07-2024, 10:34 PM
I’m not discussing laws or rules .. just that UFC is far more violent than anything in that clip yet you love UFC
The short , sharp kick and stamp were meant to hurt but not injure seriously I would say
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Tbf there's a huge difference between two people consenting to a fight in a Sport, to a Police Officer stamping on a suspect's head.
Is it really inexcusable? It's certainly a bit of an overreaction, but when a man hospitalises three women and tries to take firearms from officers of the law, instinct can take over.
Yes, they have to act with such restraint so often when set upon by thugs (Leeds recently is just another example) that I’m not surprised when one or other of them lose their rag now and then. The furore over this shows how rarely it occurs, yet when it does all hell breaks loose.
Each and every one of the many adhering to higher standards at all times because they are police regardless of severe provocation/danger just isn’t possible with human beings. That provocation/danger should be taken into account.
thesheriff443
25-07-2024, 11:07 PM
It takes a very special person to act with out emotion and those people are serial killers
arista
25-07-2024, 11:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTW3b3uW8AAeWP1?format=jpg&name=small
The Police Officer
before the male officer kicked the head
Andy Burnham Mayor
has watched the full video
arista
25-07-2024, 11:39 PM
Before she was attacked
by the thugs
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTUNhhPXsAA-P37?format=jpg&name=small
The people that were arrested were all from Rochdale, so it doesn't take a wild guess know what their agenda was.
That doesn't excuse the use of excessive force, a law that every person in the uk is subject to no matter what job they are in
…bots, the voice of reason…to go down the same path of the violence that the law and society abhors was never the way…I think we all accept that a police officer ‘lost it’ and is equally as answerable as else who ‘lost it’, which will obviously be determined internally now…it’s an incident that may have impacted public confidence in the police force at a time when that confidence isn’t at its greatest time…
Cherie
26-07-2024, 06:43 AM
The fallout continues after the chaos caught on camera that saw violence, injuries and arrests stuns Manchester and sparks protests
What is clear about the incident at Manchester Airport that has led to large protests is it was a sprawling and noisy affair that shocked onlooking passengers and reduced parts of Terminal 2 to chaos.
Several videos have emerged showing the police as they deal with what they describe as an altercation between members of the public.
While much of what happened remains unclear, the problem appears to have started on a flight from Pakistan that landed in Manchester on Tuesday evening.
Words were spoken between a middle-aged woman of Asian descent and another passenger, the woman’s family told The Telegraph.
Once on the ground, it is believed that the woman was collecting her luggage in the arrivals hall when the same passenger, a man, began jostling her with his trolley and making racist remarks.
Shortly after, the woman met her two grown-up sons, Mohammed Fahir Amaz and Mohammed Amahd.
She pointed out the man to them, telling her sons what had occurred, at which point one of the men confronted him and an altercation ensued.
Police officers became aware of the altercation at or around 8.25 pm and began tracking the family through the airport using cameras.
As they were making their way into the car park and were near the ticket machines, it is claimed officers accosted the family.
From here, the situation appeared to deteriorate rapidly.
According to family sources, the mother was allegedly struck in the face by an officer, at which point a serious confrontation began.
So far, no video evidence has emerged publicly of this initial encounter with Greater Manchester Police (GMP).
This is the stage at which, according to the force, a female officer suffered a broken nose, one of three officers to have needed hospital treatment following the encounter, having been “punched to the ground”.
In its first public statement, GMP highlighted the added tension arising from the fact that the officers involved were carrying guns.
“As the attending officers were firearms officers, there was a clear risk during this assault of their firearms being taken from them,” a spokesman said.
A source reported the men as having said: “We were not there to attack anybody. It was just happening. Our mum was just hit in the face and we were being treated unfairly.”
Speaking on BBC Radio Manchester on Thursday morning, Andy Burnham, the Mayor of Greater Manchester, said the full footage of the incident showed a “fast-moving and complicated” situation with “issues for both sides”.
It is then that video footage starts to emerge of what happened next.
The video which originally sparked the anti-police outrage and other footage portray a scene of utter carnage.
The Telegraph
Oliver_W
26-07-2024, 06:44 AM
Some of the speeches at the protest were a bit disturbing - why was the guy giving legal advice to protesters? Sounds like he was hoping expecting things to escalate.
Why were they yelling ALLAHU ACKBAR in response to people getting arrested at an airport?
Why were they saying "don't riot because you might get arrested and we need you" instead of "don't riot because it's a horrible and stupid thing to do" ?
Glenn.
26-07-2024, 06:57 AM
Totally unacceptable. I’m glad he’s lost his job.
Cherie
26-07-2024, 07:00 AM
Some of the speeches at the protest were a bit disturbing - why was the guy giving legal advice to protesters? Sounds like he was hoping expecting things to escalate.
Why were they yelling ALLAHU ACKBAR in response to people getting arrested at an airport?
Why were they saying "don't riot because you might get arrested and we need you" instead of "don't riot because it's a horrible and stupid thing to do" ?
I didnt see it but I hope the police officers injured before the filming sue them for assault
Mystic Mock
26-07-2024, 07:10 AM
It all started from the racist guy.
I wonder if he got caught in the brawling, or did he flee once the Police arrived?
I don't trust TikTok on anything.
Besides Jessica Meuse's Music, and Farage saying KRO! The rest of them think that they're Vampires, or fake having Cancer.
TikTok is fabulous when used properly… you like music and football off the top of my head so you could tailor it to just show hundreds of clips of football, goals current or at any time from the past , football tricks the options are endless
Also clips of singers / groups performing covers or original songs , busking, expert musicians showing how to play every instrument or musical gadgets, how to write music/songs etc
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Why is TalkSport talking about a crime in Manchester?
The clue is kind of in the Station's name on what they should be discussing.
They have news slots every 30 minutes
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So the family are claiming it escalated when a police officer hit the poor old mother in the face ..
Bollox
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Cherie
26-07-2024, 07:52 AM
Totally unacceptable. I’m glad he’s lost his job.
He hasn't lost his job, he has been suspended pending investigation, the facts are all on the thread
Crimson Dynamo
26-07-2024, 07:57 AM
Where were all these "protestors" when the grooming gangs got sentenced?
Nicky91
26-07-2024, 08:09 AM
then the police had a good reason to do that, imagine being against the authorities
Cherie
26-07-2024, 08:09 AM
The lawyer looking for a big pay day calling it an 'attempted assassination'
Oliver_W
26-07-2024, 08:26 AM
The lawyer looking for a big pay day calling it an 'attempted assassination'
Ridiculous.
If they wanted to kill him, theh could have actually done so when he was trying to take firearms from the officers.
(At an airport. )
The lawyer looking for a big pay day calling it an 'attempted assassination'
Hopefully he is named and shamed !
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Crimson Dynamo
26-07-2024, 10:28 AM
I see the marxist organisations have infiltrated and taken over the "protests" with people bussed in and the usual printed en mass placards and chants etc
it's no coincidence Rochdale is involved
Cherie
26-07-2024, 10:36 AM
Hopefully he is named and shamed !
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He has run for Mayor and as an MP both on a Gaza ticket thankfully no one returned him to either post his name is Akhmed Yacoob, he was on LBC this morning saying he hoped the guy wouldnt die, (when his voice was really saying I hope he does) when challenged there is no fear of the guy who was kicked dying so he is just trying to inflame the situation
There’s a witness ( foreigner) who has come forward ( on the news) suggesting the police turned up to the scene with their minds already made up … brandishing tazers
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He has run for Mayor and as an MP both on a Gaza ticket thankfully no one returned him to either post his name is Akhmed Yacoob, he was on LBC this morning saying he hoped the guy wouldnt die, (when his voice was really saying I hope he does) when challenged there is no fear of the guy who was kicked dying so he is just trying to inflame the situation
Sounds like a conman
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Livia
26-07-2024, 11:01 AM
There’s a witness ( foreigner) who has come forward ( on the news) suggesting the police turned up to the scene with their minds already made up … brandishing tazers
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Not sure you can testify to the workings of someone else's mind. Personally, as someone who flies quite a bit, I want to see stringent security at airports. If this had been Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv, the man on the floor wouldn't have been kicked, he'd have had a gunshot wound.
Not sure you can testify to the workings of someone else's mind. Personally, as someone who flies quite a bit, I want to see stringent security at airports. If this had been Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv, the man on the floor wouldn't have been kicked, he'd have had a gunshot wound.
Typical media take on things
Go for the easiest news story
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Cherie
26-07-2024, 11:27 AM
There must be alot of witnesses surely, not to mention CCTV
Oliver_W
26-07-2024, 11:49 AM
his name is Akhmed Yacoob, he was on LBC this morning saying he hoped the guy wouldnt die, (when his voice was really saying I hope he does)
Some people are just dying for a George Floyd Moment.
Crimson Dynamo
26-07-2024, 01:07 PM
Some people are just dying for a George Floyd Moment.
The 2 rent a mob marxist anti-UK rabble are
Socialist Workers Party and Stand up to Racism
They use useful young idiots to carry their placards
https://socialistworker.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/sutr_london_web.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTW3b3uW8AAeWP1?format=jpg&name=small
The Police Officer
before the male officer kicked the head
Andy Burnham Mayor
has watched the full video
Interesting that there aren’t any bloodstained photos of the poor victim …
Edit - he wasn’t injured …
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GoldHeart
26-07-2024, 02:15 PM
Interesting that there aren’t any bloodstained photos of the poor victim …
Edit - he wasn’t injured …
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Pictures or no pictures ... being kicked in the head will cause damage.
Oliver_W
26-07-2024, 03:10 PM
Why were BLM even there? No-one died, and the men who attacked the police weren't black.
Crimson Dynamo
26-07-2024, 03:19 PM
Andy Burnham going on about the Greater Manchester community and he spoke to 40 Community partners today - or in other words 40 muslim men all sticking their nose into something that has got nowt to do with them
Speaking like we has just had a 9/11 type attack
Get on with your job filling potholes and getting the besses running on time ffs
arista
26-07-2024, 03:27 PM
Why were BLM even there? No-one died, and the men who attacked the police weren't black.
They are a USA import
Pictures or no pictures ... being kicked in the head will cause damage.
I know , just in a funny mood
It seems that the police always get unfairly treated at times like this
Their staff wellbeing levels must be pitifully low when they just want to look after us all
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Livia
26-07-2024, 09:06 PM
Interesting that there aren’t any bloodstained photos of the poor victim …
Edit - he wasn’t injured …
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You mean to tell me no upstanding citizen filmed the attack on the police and stuck it online? I am shocked.
AnnieK
26-07-2024, 09:33 PM
The Police Officer is under criminal investigation and professional misconduct investigation now according to the IOPC tonight
I know , just in a funny mood
It seems that the police always get unfairly treated at times like this
Their staff wellbeing levels must be pitifully low when they just want to look after us all
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…I honestly am feeling as though we don’t get ‘news’ anymore but more just fake news…I’m now reading…
The pictures of a woman with a badly injured nose are genuine, but are from a separate incident in 2020 when a female PC was punched in Leicestershire.
One tweet using a picture and falsely linking it to the Manchester airport incident has been viewed more than 600,000 times, alongside the caption: “It’s got to be worth a retweet for this poor policewoman who was attacked by six men in Manchester airport and broke her nose”.
I have no idea if there is truth in that either or no…but it often feels that were the actual victims…the victims of so much misinformation to create divides….
https://inews.co.uk/news/misinformation-manchester-airport-arrests-3191072
Crimson Dynamo
26-07-2024, 09:44 PM
…I honestly am feeling as though we don’t get ‘news’ anymore but more just fake news…I’m now reading…
The pictures of a woman with a badly injured nose are genuine, but are from a separate incident in 2020 when a female PC was punched in Leicestershire.
One tweet using a picture and falsely linking it to the Manchester airport incident has been viewed more than 600,000 times, alongside the caption: “It’s got to be worth a retweet for this poor policewoman who was attacked by six men in Manchester airport and broke her nose”.
I have no idea if there is truth in that either or no…but it often feels that were the actual victims…the victims of so much misinformation to create divides….
https://inews.co.uk/news/misinformation-manchester-airport-arrests-3191072
so the woman did get her nose broken but its not the same pic
I am sure that made her feel so much better that you exposed that
:skull:
…I honestly am feeling as though we don’t get ‘news’ anymore but more just fake news…I’m now reading…
The pictures of a woman with a badly injured nose are genuine, but are from a separate incident in 2020 when a female PC was punched in Leicestershire.
One tweet using a picture and falsely linking it to the Manchester airport incident has been viewed more than 600,000 times, alongside the caption: “It’s got to be worth a retweet for this poor policewoman who was attacked by six men in Manchester airport and broke her nose”.
I have no idea if there is truth in that either or no…but it often feels that were the actual victims…the victims of so much misinformation to create divides….
https://inews.co.uk/news/misinformation-manchester-airport-arrests-3191072
Trump started all this ‘fake’ news nonsense
Now we can’t believe anything we see or hear and incredible/ genuine things are now dismissed as fake
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Crimson Dynamo
26-07-2024, 09:47 PM
Trump started all this ‘fake’ news nonsense
Now we can’t believe anything we see or hear and incredible/ genuine things are now dismissed as fake
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you mean he exposed it
Just look at a years worth of lying from Kamala Harris the MSM and the Democrats that Biden was fine
EXPOSED as abject LIARS
arista
26-07-2024, 11:31 PM
The Suspended, Police Officer will now face
a criminal charge
arista
26-07-2024, 11:53 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/26/16/87813067-0-image-a-64_1722007137793.jpg
GMP : Greater Manchester Police
The Suspended, Police Officer will now face
a criminal charge
Lucky for him our justice system believes in extreme leniency
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This arrest at an airport became a bigger story than a soldier being stabbed in tje street in broad daylight.
How?
Mystic Mock
27-07-2024, 01:25 AM
TikTok is fabulous when used properly… you like music and football off the top of my head so you could tailor it to just show hundreds of clips of football, goals current or at any time from the past , football tricks the options are endless
Also clips of singers / groups performing covers or original songs , busking, expert musicians showing how to play every instrument or musical gadgets, how to write music/songs etc
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That's fair.
I tend to just hear weird stories about TikTok, when I probably should do what you're saying and just listen to videos that I like.
Mystic Mock
27-07-2024, 01:27 AM
Where were all these "protestors" when the grooming gangs got sentenced?
Why would anyone protest grooming gangs getting sentenced?
Mystic Mock
27-07-2024, 01:31 AM
The lawyer looking for a big pay day calling it an 'attempted assassination'
Hyperbolic nonsense like this won't do the family any good, as anyone can see this claim for what it is.
That's fair.
I tend to just hear weird stories about TikTok, when I probably should do what you're saying and just listen to videos that I like.
Yeah
Just like/ follow all the interesting things then block and dislike or even report the things you don’t.. the algorithm will soon have it running to your tastes
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Mystic Mock
27-07-2024, 01:52 AM
Yeah
Just like/ follow all the interesting things then block and dislike or even report the things you don’t.. the algorithm will soon have it running to your tastes
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I'll definitely take your advice on board.
GoldHeart
27-07-2024, 02:15 AM
Yeah
Just like/ follow all the interesting things then block and dislike or even report the things you don’t.. the algorithm will soon have it running to your tastes
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I guess that goes for any social media with algorithm, unfortunately people.... especially youngsters and teens usually go down the rabbit hole on these sites........and end up looking at things they shouldn't .
Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2024, 07:54 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTenRmJWsAA6-2l?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTenRmJWsAA6-2l?format=jpg&name=medium
Excellent .. he made some very interesting points !
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Meanwhile the police in Brazil have a different idea ..
https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1816546206228828425
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Liam-
27-07-2024, 02:40 PM
The Suspended, Police Officer will now face
a criminal charge
Good, here’s hoping he faces the fullest extent of the law
Oliver_W
27-07-2024, 03:10 PM
The worst thing about the head-stomp is that it distracted from what the attackers were actually trying to do.
Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2024, 05:40 PM
JUST IN: Manchester Airport video shows violent scenes before man kicked in
head by GMP officer
Must’ve been a terrifying situation for the police officers there 👇🏼
https://x.com/breakingryan1/status/1817241609731547423
JUST IN: Manchester Airport video shows violent scenes before man kicked in
head by GMP officer
Must’ve been a terrifying situation for the police officers there [emoji1370]
https://x.com/breakingryan1/status/1817241609731547423
Thank the lord this footage has come to light !
Andy Burnham was right .. it certainly isn’t a clear cut case !!
The guy’s lawyer should be named and shamed and even punished for nearly causing riots with his nonsense
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Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2024, 06:20 PM
Thank the lord this footage has come to light !
Andy Burnham was right .. it certainly isn’t a clear cut case !!
The guy’s lawyer should be named and shamed and even punished for nearly causing riots with his nonsense
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this footage is a game changer
Oliver_W
27-07-2024, 08:26 PM
Wasn't the "victim" always known to be the actual aggressor?
Wasn't the "victim" always known to be the actual aggressor?
Well all the headlines were slaughtering the cop
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Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2024, 08:55 PM
I bet Richard Tice is feeling vindicated now
Cherie
27-07-2024, 09:00 PM
I think we all knew unless the cop was a psycho he was riled up by previous events
I think we all knew unless the cop was a psycho he was riled up by previous events
Yes his behaviour is kinda understandable now ..
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Yes his behaviour is kinda understandable now ..
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that's just the point, it's not understandable from a trained professional, and that's why he was suspended and is now facing criminal charges
that's just the point, it's not understandable from a trained professional, and that's why he was suspended and is now facing criminal charges
He’s only human after all
Have you seen the new footage ?
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arista
27-07-2024, 09:40 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d867ab81-5213-483f-9758-2561ebc6cfd4.png
Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2024, 09:43 PM
Looks like the race baiting lawyer won't be getting it a new Lamborghini
He’s only human after all
Have you seen the new footage ?
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he is in a special place of responsibility, he has to abide by the law no matter what the challenges are that he faces
Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2024, 10:00 PM
he is in a special place of responsibility, he has to abide by the law no matter what the challenges are that he faces
Like a football player or MP?
Cherie
27-07-2024, 10:02 PM
he is in a special place of responsibility, he has to abide by the law no matter what the challenges are that he faces
No I think the line needs to be drawn, the police officers did not instigate this the perp did, and now to say they were in the right is completely wrong we have at some point to acknowledge that police officers are human, you cannot train some one to dehumanise themselves.... the perp here was out of control he got everything he deserved
rusticgal
27-07-2024, 10:31 PM
Well it’s good to see the bigger picture at last…
he is in a special place of responsibility, he has to abide by the law no matter what the challenges are that he faces
Tell that to Eric Cantona who reacted far , far worse over a few words
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No I think the line needs to be drawn, the police officers did not instigate this the perp did, and now to say they were in the right is completely wrong we have at some point to acknowledge that police officers are human, you cannot train some one to dehumanise themselves.... the perp here was out of control he got everything he deserved
Perfect ^
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What an absolute scumbag literally went for three of them in the space of a few seconds
Solidarity with the police
No I think the line needs to be drawn, the police officers did not instigate this the perp did, and now to say they were in the right is completely wrong we have at some point to acknowledge that police officers are human, you cannot train some one to dehumanise themselves.... the perp here was out of control he got everything he deserved
i cannot agree, it is a slippery slope once you say it's ok for someone to use excessive force. Anyway, the CPS/court will decide
i cannot agree, it is a slippery slope once you say it's ok for someone to use excessive force. Anyway, the CPS/court will decide
…yeah, this really are my thoughts also…it was always known/reported that there had been previous violence from a group at the airport which is inexcusable behaviour and obviously what all led to the man being on the ground with the police having regained some calm and stability to the situation, which is what would be hoped for…but then the police officer’s behaviour feels more…’oh, you’re helpless now, mate…I’ll just give you a bit of kicking and stomping on the head while you’re down there and vulnerable…’….thats still how it appears in that moment when the situation had then been calmed…that would be excessive behaviour that would be expected from the lawbreakers but not the law keepers, when it wasn’t appropriate in response of anything in that moment…I agree with bots….thats a slope to no law and order at all just two sets of thugs fighting and not being clear who are the lawbreakers and who are the law protectors because they’re equally as violent…
Cherie
28-07-2024, 08:19 AM
i cannot agree, it is a slippery slope once you say it's ok for someone to use excessive force. Anyway, the CPS/court will decide
I dont think it is okay, and obviously I dont want police officers kicking people in the head when they are down, he lost his head and I am sure he will lose his job over it, but I understand why he lost his head
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2024, 08:56 AM
And by the way what does the new footage tell you about the type of person and their agenda of the person who released the original footage?
1817250132645351539
His hands were by his side, I take it back..
Frozen solid by a taser, like a beached fish.
Got what he deserved.
arista
28-07-2024, 05:38 PM
That new Manchester Evening News video
has the lady police officer getting knocked to the floor
those thugs broke her nose.
Ref:Ch4HDnews
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2024, 05:44 PM
A grown man twice the size of the 2 women beating them to a pulp and the "muslim community" come out and demonstrate for him?
:umm2:
what is going on with England in 2024?
Cherie
28-07-2024, 05:47 PM
A grown man twice the size of the 2 women beating them to a pulp and the "muslim community" come out and demonstrate for him?
:umm2:
what is going on with England in 2024?
wimmin innit, surely they should be protesting for his mother who was racially abused?
rusticgal
28-07-2024, 05:53 PM
Hypocrites…they fight with the men who apparently verbally abused their mother…then physically attack 3 female officers…:shrug:
GiRTh
28-07-2024, 05:55 PM
wimmin innit, surely they should be protesting for his mother who was racially abused?Another veteran forum member showing they haven't listened to a word or taken on board anything that has been said for over a decade.
This forum certainly has some characters.
Cherie
28-07-2024, 05:56 PM
Another veteran forum member showing they haven't listened to a word or taken on board anything that has been said for over a decade.
This forum certainly has some characters.
what have I not taken on board?
GiRTh
28-07-2024, 05:57 PM
what have I not taken on board?IUTs your silly flippant comment. DO you have a serious point to make or is it all a joke to you?
Cherie
28-07-2024, 06:00 PM
IUTs your silly flippant comment. DO you have a serious point to make or is it all a joke to you?
what??? no idea what you are on about, off you pop, not playing your games :thumbs:
GiRTh
28-07-2024, 06:02 PM
OK probably for the best.
Poor police officer gonna lose his job cuz he lost control. Other than that what else have you said in here. :shrug:
Off you pop indeed. :thumbs:
Cherie
28-07-2024, 06:03 PM
Not a word about the female officers injured, yet another arrogant misogynist
arista
28-07-2024, 06:04 PM
Ch4HDnews
said this started in the Starbucks
yet another fight video to come..............
Cherie
28-07-2024, 06:04 PM
OK probably for the best.
Poor police officer gonna lose his job cuz he lost control. Other than that what else have you said in here. :shrug:
Off you pop indeed. :thumbs:
what have you said? apart from trying to insult me...par for the course with you, you will be calling me a racist next as per
GiRTh
28-07-2024, 06:08 PM
Not a word about the female officers injured, yet another arrogant misogynistThe sexism card. oh dear!!! :laugh:
You last played this card with me in a football thread. I highlighted your lack of knowledge - Not too hard - and you accused me of being sexist. I pointed out to you my record on women pundits and that some would proably consider me to be quite woke. You didnt have much to say after that. And now you're trying it again. DO you have any other cards to play?
By the way, please dont ever accuse anyone on here of playing cards cuz you are one of the worse on here. :thumbs:
Cherie
28-07-2024, 06:09 PM
Ch4HDnews
said this started in the Starbucks
yet another fight video to come..............
Interesting...
GiRTh
28-07-2024, 06:10 PM
what have you said? apart from trying to insult me...par for the course with you, you will be calling me a racist next as perAm I supposed to respond to this. More accusations etc. No point etc
Cherie
28-07-2024, 06:11 PM
The sexism card. oh dear!!! :laugh:
You last played this card with me in a football thread. I highlighted your lack of knowledge - Not too hard - and you accused me of being sexist. I pointed out to you my record on women pundits and that some would proably consider me to be quite woke. You didnt have much to say after that. And now you're trying it again. DO you have any other cards to play?
By the way, please dont ever accuse anyone on here of playing cards cuz you are one of the worse on here. :thumbs:
:joker:
Cherie
28-07-2024, 06:12 PM
Am I supposed to respond to this. More accusations etc. No point etc
You accused me of not contributing to the thread in a manner that would have pleased you, I asked what your contribution was...nada as far as I can see, maybe I missed some valuable comment from you good self?
GiRTh
28-07-2024, 06:12 PM
:joker:Keep laughing. You are on a par with anyone you could accuse of playing cards. Yes, its true. Come to terms with it.
GiRTh
28-07-2024, 06:15 PM
You accused me of not contributing to the thread in a manner that would have pleased you, I asked what your contribution was...nada as far as I can see, maybe I missed some valuable comment from you good self?Here we go again with the standard responses. Posting in away that doesn't please etc. How many times have you tried that line. Come up with some new material.
You're one of the worst for playing cards. ITs true. Let it sink in. Someone needs to tell you it straight.
Cherie
28-07-2024, 06:17 PM
Here we go again with the standard responses. Posting in away that doesn't please etc. How many times have you tried that line. Come up with some new material.
You're one of the worst for playing cards. ITs true. Let it sink in. Someone needs to tell you it straight.
Sounds like you are really mad that a woman has the temerity to speak to you in the football thread and not agree with you, I would work on that if I were you, you seem to be holding a long grudge there..
GoldHeart
28-07-2024, 06:19 PM
Ch4HDnews
said this started in the Starbucks
yet another fight video to come..............
I knew there had to be more to this sh1t storm
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2024, 06:22 PM
I knew there had to be more to this sh1t storm
I doubt there will be anymore Marxist led muslim demos...
and has anyone seen the "lawyer"?
:laugh:
GiRTh
28-07-2024, 06:25 PM
Sounds like you are really mad that a woman has the temerity to speak to you in the football thread and not agree with you, I would work on that if I were you, you seem to be holding a long grudge there..
The sexism card again. See, you play more cards than anyone. Way to prove my point :laugh:
Look at my posts on female pundits and you'll see my stance on women's opinions in football and, like I say, some would call me quite woke, but youre calling me sexist. Is this a joke? :joker: This is puzzling unless you aint got nothing to say other than to play cards. You are barking up the wrong tree. There is no where near enough for you to call me sexist. You're playing cards arent you. Admit it :thumbs:
Glenn.
28-07-2024, 06:26 PM
Regardless of what happened before. The man was restrained on the floor. The policeman needlessly kicked a man in the head then stamped on it.
Barry.
28-07-2024, 06:28 PM
Regardless of what happened before. The man was restrained on the floor. The policeman needlessly kicked a man in the head then stamped on it.
Could of killed him. However, I hope the police woman is ok and seeks legal advice
GoldHeart
28-07-2024, 06:33 PM
Regardless of what happened before. The man was restrained on the floor. The policeman needlessly kicked a man in the head then stamped on it.
Nobody is condoning that ,but it's not exactly the same situation as e.g ..... the Sonia Massey murder at the hands of a trigger happy cop .
GoldHeart
28-07-2024, 06:40 PM
Could of killed him. However, I hope the police woman is ok and seeks legal advice
I agree the cop should have stayed cool and remained professional as he had an example to set,but if you're being threatened and your colleagues attacked.... then it puts things into a bigger picture. It's not as simple as " oh the cop was lynching a victim" , the so called ' victim' wasn't innocent.
Nobody is covering themselves in glory in this. Tensions were already high ...and it sounds like there was a worry the cops weapons would be stolen.
I will say if he already tazered him...then no he didn't need to be kicking him etc ,that was excessive force and could have been fatal ...and then he'd be up on a murder charge.
But let's not forget cops were still assaulted aswell.
Regardless of what happened before. The man was restrained on the floor. The policeman needlessly kicked a man in the head then stamped on it.Right on brother. What does it matter what happened before?
People should just be allowed to assault the Police and then be treated like delicate flowers. Finally some sense.
Glenn.
28-07-2024, 06:56 PM
Right on brother. What does it matter what happened before?
People should just be allowed to assault the Police and then be treated like delicate flowers. Finally some sense.
When he’s already restrained on the floor yes…
I dont think it is okay, and obviously I dont want police officers kicking people in the head when they are down, he lost his head and I am sure he will lose his job over it, but I understand why he lost his head
Nailed it , again
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When he’s already restrained on the floor yes…But as you can see with your own eyes, he wasn't actually restrained. He just fell to the floor from the taser. The person that fell on top of him was the copper that he was assaulting.
Watch again.
Cherie
28-07-2024, 08:30 PM
The sexism card again. See, you play more cards than anyone. Way to prove my point :laugh:
Look at my posts on female pundits and you'll see my stance on women's opinions in football and, like I say, some would call me quite woke, but youre calling me sexist. Is this a joke? :joker: This is puzzling unless you aint got nothing to say other than to play cards. You are barking up the wrong tree. There is no where near enough for you to call me sexist. You're playing cards arent you. Admit it :thumbs:
Weeellll you have come on the thread and announced that I have not taken anything on board for the last decade and when questioned what exactly I should have taken on board, you proferred no response, I asked what your contribution to to thread is given you have taken issue with mine, the response has been.....well there has been none, I can only conclude you are a massive mysognist or that you have some personal issue with me, from my stance I don't have any issues with you, sometimes I agree with you, sometimes I don't, whatever your issues are with me they are for you to manage not me, so you either interact with me in a normal fashion or I will just ignore you...your choice :thumbs:
GiRTh
28-07-2024, 08:41 PM
I have no issues with you but the threat of the ignore list sums up what I'm saying. DO whatever you feel.
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2024, 10:05 PM
Reports are that "lawyer" AKHMED YAKOOB has been sacked?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTmJ0zUX0AAGNcj?format=jpg&name=small
Reports are that "lawyer" AKHMED YAKOOB has been sacked?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTmJ0zUX0AAGNcj?format=jpg&name=small
He should be permanently banned and charged for inciting riots as well
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Second officer under criminal investigation after Manchester Airport incident…
A second officer is under criminal investigation for assault after an incident at Manchester Airport, the police watchdog has said.
Video which showed an officer kick and stamp on the head of Fahir Amaaz, 19, as he and his brother Muhammad Amaad, 25, were restrained by officers led to protests in Rochdale and Manchester city centre after it emerged last month.
More footage, obtained by the Manchester Evening News, emerged days later which showed the immediate lead-up to the disturbance on July 23, when two female police officers were hit to the ground before Mr Amaaz was tasered.
In a press conference earlier this week, the family’s lawyer claimed the men’s mother, Shameem Akhtar, 56, was hit in the face with a Taser by an officer.
In the days after the incident, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) announced a Greater Manchester Police (GMP) constable was under criminal investigation for assault in connection with the arrests of the brothers.
In an update on Thursday, the watchdog said a second officer had been advised they were also under criminal investigation for assault, relating to an incident shortly afterwards when two other men were arrested.
The officer is also being investigated for potential gross misconduct for alleged breaches of police professional standards including their use of force.
An IOPC spokesman said it had received a further referral from GMP of a complaint, detailing several allegations, from one of the people involved.
IOPC regional director Catherine Bates said: “It is clear the situation at Manchester Airport was complex and escalated rapidly.
“The incident, which resulted in injuries to police officers and members of the public, has caused understandable concern and we are working hard to piece together all of the relevant events on that day.
“In parallel, Greater Manchester Police is investigating whether any criminal offences were committed by members of the public during the initial altercation and the subsequent arrests.
“These investigations are separate, and we are liaising with the Crown Prosecution Service to establish how they can progress in parallel.”
The IOPC spokesman said its investigation will consider whether discriminatory behaviour may have influenced the treatment received.
It will look at the force used against six members of the public in two incidents, the first involving the arrests shown in footage and the second, shortly afterwards, when two other men were arrested and one was Pava sprayed.
It will also consider allegations about the level of care provided to a woman who reported she received an injury during the arrests and a young child present at the time; the language and level of force used by police towards two of the men who were arrested; and the men’s subsequent detention in custody.
Four men were arrested on suspicion of affray and assault following the incident and were later bailed.
A spokesman for GMP said the four remained on bail.
He said: “Our major incident team, led by an experienced senior investigating officer, is making good progress in investigating alleged criminal offences against both the public, and police officers, and we are committed to reaching a conclusion to the investigation as soon as possible in the interests of justice.
“This is a complex case so we ask for public support in bearing with us while we make sure that enquiries are completed thoroughly,
“We also remain fully committed to supporting the IOPC led investigation into our officers actions.”
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/second-officer-under-criminal-investigation-134656782.html
arista
08-08-2024, 05:12 PM
Reports are that "lawyer" AKHMED YAKOOB has been sacked.
Yes LT they have new lawyer
Reports are that "lawyer" AKHMED YAKOOB has been sacked.
Yes LT they have new lawyer
Hopefully he’s not been paid yet and his career is in tatters
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Oliver_W
08-08-2024, 05:57 PM
Second officer under criminal investigation after Manchester Airport incident…
A second officer is under criminal investigation for assault after an incident at Manchester Airport, the police watchdog has said.
Video which showed an officer kick and stamp on the head of Fahir Amaaz, 19, as he and his brother Muhammad Amaad, 25, were restrained by officers led to protests in Rochdale and Manchester city centre after it emerged last month.
More footage, obtained by the Manchester Evening News, emerged days later which showed the immediate lead-up to the disturbance on July 23, when two female police officers were hit to the ground before Mr Amaaz was tasered.
In a press conference earlier this week, the family’s lawyer claimed the men’s mother, Shameem Akhtar, 56, was hit in the face with a Taser by an officer.
In the days after the incident, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) announced a Greater Manchester Police (GMP) constable was under criminal investigation for assault in connection with the arrests of the brothers.
In an update on Thursday, the watchdog said a second officer had been advised they were also under criminal investigation for assault, relating to an incident shortly afterwards when two other men were arrested.
The officer is also being investigated for potential gross misconduct for alleged breaches of police professional standards including their use of force.
An IOPC spokesman said it had received a further referral from GMP of a complaint, detailing several allegations, from one of the people involved.
IOPC regional director Catherine Bates said: “It is clear the situation at Manchester Airport was complex and escalated rapidly.
“The incident, which resulted in injuries to police officers and members of the public, has caused understandable concern and we are working hard to piece together all of the relevant events on that day.
“In parallel, Greater Manchester Police is investigating whether any criminal offences were committed by members of the public during the initial altercation and the subsequent arrests.
“These investigations are separate, and we are liaising with the Crown Prosecution Service to establish how they can progress in parallel.”
The IOPC spokesman said its investigation will consider whether discriminatory behaviour may have influenced the treatment received.
It will look at the force used against six members of the public in two incidents, the first involving the arrests shown in footage and the second, shortly afterwards, when two other men were arrested and one was Pava sprayed.
It will also consider allegations about the level of care provided to a woman who reported she received an injury during the arrests and a young child present at the time; the language and level of force used by police towards two of the men who were arrested; and the men’s subsequent detention in custody.
Four men were arrested on suspicion of affray and assault following the incident and were later bailed.
A spokesman for GMP said the four remained on bail.
He said: “Our major incident team, led by an experienced senior investigating officer, is making good progress in investigating alleged criminal offences against both the public, and police officers, and we are committed to reaching a conclusion to the investigation as soon as possible in the interests of justice.
“This is a complex case so we ask for public support in bearing with us while we make sure that enquiries are completed thoroughly,
“We also remain fully committed to supporting the IOPC led investigation into our officers actions.”
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/second-officer-under-criminal-investigation-134656782.html
The officers should be commended for foiling a plan to take weapons at an airport, not dragged over the coals for doing their job.
The officers should be commended for foiling a plan to take weapons at an airport, not dragged over the coals for doing their job.
Yes especially given what they had to contend with on that awful day
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Cherie
08-08-2024, 06:52 PM
Second officer under criminal investigation after Manchester Airport incident…
A second officer is under criminal investigation for assault after an incident at Manchester Airport, the police watchdog has said.
Video which showed an officer kick and stamp on the head of Fahir Amaaz, 19, as he and his brother Muhammad Amaad, 25, were restrained by officers led to protests in Rochdale and Manchester city centre after it emerged last month.
More footage, obtained by the Manchester Evening News, emerged days later which showed the immediate lead-up to the disturbance on July 23, when two female police officers were hit to the ground before Mr Amaaz was tasered.
In a press conference earlier this week, the family’s lawyer claimed the men’s mother, Shameem Akhtar, 56, was hit in the face with a Taser by an officer.
In the days after the incident, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) announced a Greater Manchester Police (GMP) constable was under criminal investigation for assault in connection with the arrests of the brothers.
In an update on Thursday, the watchdog said a second officer had been advised they were also under criminal investigation for assault, relating to an incident shortly afterwards when two other men were arrested.
The officer is also being investigated for potential gross misconduct for alleged breaches of police professional standards including their use of force.
An IOPC spokesman said it had received a further referral from GMP of a complaint, detailing several allegations, from one of the people involved.
IOPC regional director Catherine Bates said: “It is clear the situation at Manchester Airport was complex and escalated rapidly.
“The incident, which resulted in injuries to police officers and members of the public, has caused understandable concern and we are working hard to piece together all of the relevant events on that day.
“In parallel, Greater Manchester Police is investigating whether any criminal offences were committed by members of the public during the initial altercation and the subsequent arrests.
“These investigations are separate, and we are liaising with the Crown Prosecution Service to establish how they can progress in parallel.”
The IOPC spokesman said its investigation will consider whether discriminatory behaviour may have influenced the treatment received.
It will look at the force used against six members of the public in two incidents, the first involving the arrests shown in footage and the second, shortly afterwards, when two other men were arrested and one was Pava sprayed.
It will also consider allegations about the level of care provided to a woman who reported she received an injury during the arrests and a young child present at the time; the language and level of force used by police towards two of the men who were arrested; and the men’s subsequent detention in custody.
Four men were arrested on suspicion of affray and assault following the incident and were later bailed.
A spokesman for GMP said the four remained on bail.
He said: “Our major incident team, led by an experienced senior investigating officer, is making good progress in investigating alleged criminal offences against both the public, and police officers, and we are committed to reaching a conclusion to the investigation as soon as possible in the interests of justice.
“This is a complex case so we ask for public support in bearing with us while we make sure that enquiries are completed thoroughly,
“We also remain fully committed to supporting the IOPC led investigation into our officers actions.”
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/second-officer-under-criminal-investigation-134656782.html
I saw a photo of the Mum and she had a massive bruise under her eye apparently she had been tasered, hopefully accidentally
Bail!!
Bail for that, a man got 3 years for punching a copper..wtf.
Is it 2 tier policing ?
Mystic Mock
08-08-2024, 08:49 PM
Reports are that "lawyer" AKHMED YAKOOB has been sacked.
Yes LT they have new lawyer
That's good, as he wasn't doing anyone good with his behaviour.
GoldHeart
08-08-2024, 10:23 PM
That's good, as he wasn't doing anyone good with his behaviour.
I don't know the full ins & outs ,but I gathered he just wanted to stir up and goad things . And just wanted his moment in the spotlight.
Mystic Mock
08-08-2024, 11:23 PM
I don't know the full ins & outs ,but I gathered he just wanted to stir up and goad things . And just wanted his moment in the spotlight.
You've gathered correctly.
He was basically drawing everyone to himself, rather than the actual case.
UserSince2005
09-08-2024, 10:40 PM
These bastards caused riots with their victim playing farce, where’s their prison sentence?
These bastards caused riots with their victim playing farce, where’s their prison sentence?
Guaranteed they are going for a huge compensation payout
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Oliver_W
12-08-2024, 12:41 PM
They haven't even been charged yet...
arista
12-08-2024, 03:02 PM
They haven't even been charged yet...
Yes
Police have Slowed down.
Labour MP's should demand a response
…an update on this incident…I know there has been criticism/comparisons made with the recent riots and sentencing speeds etc…but these things aren’t one size fits all and some are more layered and more evidence and circumstance has to be gathered etc to accurately asses whether actions were ‘in proportion’ or not…anyway, an update ….
Greater Manchester Police has submitted a file of evidence to the Crown Prosecution Service in relation to 'a series of alleged criminal offences' at Manchester Airport.
The force launched an investigation after video footage emerged of violent scenes at the airport on July 23. The first clip, which went viral on social media, appeared to show a police officer kicking and stamping on the head of Fahir Amaaz, 19, while he was on the ground.
A second video, exclusively obtained by the Manchester Evening News, then showed the violent scenes which erupted in the moments before the incident - with Mr Amaaz and his brother, Muhammad Amaad, 25, appearing to throw punches at a male police officer. Two female officers were also hit to the ground before Mr Amaaz was tasered.
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Two police officers remain under criminal investigation for assault in relation to the incident, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) said. In an update issued this morning, GMP said the force has now submitted a 'comprehensive file of evidence' to the CPS 'for advice'.
The evidence forms parts of an 'investigation into a series of alleged criminal offences' which left three police officers injured, police said. Four men remain on police bail in relation to the incident.
In full, GMP's statement said: "We have submitted a comprehensive file of evidence to the Crown Prosecution Service for advice as part of an investigation into a series of alleged criminal offences which saw three police officers injured at Manchester Airport in July. GMP Major Incident Team investigators, led by a highly experienced Senior Investigating Officer, have been thoroughly investigating the incident.
"Four men remain on police bail. A separate and independent investigation into our officers’ actions, by the Independent Office for Police Conduct, remains ongoing."
Protests broke out in Manchester and Rochdale after the first video emerged last month. In a press conference earlier this month, the lawyer of the family involved in the incident claimed the men’s mother, Shameem Akhtar, 56, was hit in the face with a taser by an officer.
In the days after the incident, the IOPC said a GMP constable was under criminal investigation for assault in connection with the arrests of the brothers. The watchdog then revealed a second officer had been advised they were also under criminal investigation for assault, relating to an incident shortly afterwards when two other men were arrested.
The officer is also being investigated for potential gross misconduct for alleged breaches of police professional standards including their use of force. An IOPC spokesman said it had received a further referral from GMP of a complaint, detailing several allegations, from one of the people involved.
IOPC regional director Catherine Bates said: “It is clear the situation at Manchester Airport was complex and escalated rapidly. The incident, which resulted in injuries to police officers and members of the public, has caused understandable concern and we are working hard to piece together all of the relevant events on that day.
"In parallel, Greater Manchester Police is investigating whether any criminal offences were committed by members of the public during the initial altercation and the subsequent arrests. These investigations are separate, and we are liaising with the Crown Prosecution Service to establish how they can progress in parallel.”
The officer is also being investigated for potential gross misconduct for alleged breaches of police professional standards including their use of force. An IOPC spokesman said it had received a further referral from GMP of a complaint, detailing several allegations, from one of the people involved.
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