Robert Downey Jr. to play Marvel Villian "Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars" Film

[arista]

[Robert Downey Jr. is back in the
Marvel Cinematic Universe,
but this time he's switching from hero to villain.
At San Diego Comic-Con on Saturday (Jul 27)
Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige announced
that Downey, 59,
will play the infamous
villain Doctor Doom
in the upcoming Avengers movies
Avengers: Doomsday and
Avengers: Secret Wars.

Feige also revealed that directors
Anthony and Joe Russo will return
to direct Doomsday.
The Russo brothers shared that
only "the greatest actor in the world"
could portray Doctor Doom and
hence they have chosen Downey
for the role.

Downey's entrance on stage,
flanked by actors in masks and robes,
electrified the crowd.
"New mask, same task," he said.
"What did I tell ya? I like playing
complicated characters."]

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[arista]

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now announcing it.

[Nicky91]

we don't need that washed up b actor though



time for new talent maybe? instead of recycling the same old actors

[James]

How dull and it's pretty desperate.

There's no emotional stakes to any of this. They kill a character and bring him back from another universe. It's hollow.

[arista]

How dull and it's pretty desperate.

There's no emotional stakes to any of this. They kill a character and bring him back from another universe. It's hollow.


The Twin Brothers make top movies
give it a chance
at least


They picked Downey

[Barry.]

How dull and it's pretty desperate.

There's no emotional stakes to any of this. They kill a character and bring him back from another universe. It's hollow.

Was iron man dr doom in another universe in the comics?

[James]

Was iron man dr doom in another universe in the comics?

I only know the character from the films.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They are desperate

this is barrel scraping like no other

[Barry.]

I only know the character from the films.

Same and tbh I’m ok with it. Like, they might twist it into him being iron man or something like that too

[Oliver_W]

How many of those insipid Marvel movies have been about a "Multiverse" in some way? Maybe he's hitched a ride with one of the Spiders and is a Tony Stark from another Earth?

I know nothing about Marvel Comics (it's all about DC babyyy) but I don't know if one of the Dr Dooms has been Tony Stark?

[Barry.]

How many of those insipid Marvel movies have been about a "Multiverse" in some way? Maybe he's hitched a ride with one of the Spiders and is a Tony Stark from another Earth?

I know nothing about Marvel Comics (it's all about DC babyyy) but I don't know if one of the Dr Dooms has been Tony Stark?

I found this on the net? Might be reversing it, not sure.

"In the 2016 comic Infamous Iron Man, Doctor Doom took up the mantle of Iron Man while Stark was in a coma."

[Oliver_W]

I found this on the net? Might be reversing it, not sure.

"In the 2016 comic Infamous Iron Man, Doctor Doom took up the mantle of Iron Man while Stark was in a coma."

Hmm, interesting. I wonder if they'll reverse it and have (a version of/) Tony filling in for Doctor Doom...

[Barry.]

Hmm, interesting. I wonder if they'll reverse it and have (a version of/) Tony filling in for Doctor Doom...

Thats my thinking, however, that means Tony was evil to begin with? So don't know how it will work

[Alf]

Hasn't this super hero fad passed yet?

Are you not bored yet?

[Quantum Boy]

Hasn't this super hero fad passed yet?

Are you not bored yet?

Realistically, it ended with Endgame in 2019.

[Mystic Mock]

Hasn't this super hero fad passed yet?

Are you not bored yet?

It is slowly losing it's power.

Hence why Barbie, Oppenheimer, Mario, John Wick 4, and Creed III, and Scream V & VI all had their own personal breakouts over the last couple of years at the Cinemas.

I like Superhero Movies, in particular I can't wait for the Blade Movie to come out from Marvel's catalogue.

But I am glad that other types of Movies are finally starting to come out again.

[Ammi]

…super hero movies have such visually impressive scenes/effects so I guess that they’ve been quite overdone as well to keep those cinema audiences as they’re enhanced by a cinema watch/visually and with sound etc…?… cinema’s are so costly, I can’t imagine so much…someone going to see a drama or comedy or something but they may do with a visual and sound ‘spectacular’ super hero movie …?…

…I like Robert Downey Junior, he’s a great actor…I’d like to see him move away from this type of role and back into more intense drama roles, which I think he excels in…

[Ninastar]

He’s so in love with himself

Ugh

[Quantum Boy]

I will maintain that Marvel phases 1 - 3 (Iron Man 1 up until Avengers: Endgame) is a piece of cinematic history that is entirely unique and very very much worthwhile. An interwoven, interconnected cinematic universe on that scale has never happened before, and likely never will again, and though moment-to-moment quality varies there's also some genuinely excellent cinema in there too.

But...

It feels like a complete narrative. 20+ movies in that run, it's absolutely HUGE, but it has a clear beginning (the character origin movies), middle (the Avengers era and build up) and end (Infinity war/Endgame and the death of Iron Man).

Spider-man movies as a standalone franchise - even with cameos from other MCU characters - could have continued (e.g. Doctor Strange in No Way Home).

The rest of it just feels tacked on. It feels like extra, unnecessary filler content. But Disney greed meant they had to keep putting out content.

IMO it was a terrible decision, they should have shelved EVERYTHING after Endgame for 5 - 10 years and then started a new X-Men series. Hype would have been huge. As it is, people are fatigued. Again, you could have had guest appearances from old MCU characters in X-Men films, but make it a whole fresh start with a lengthy break.

[bots]

i just don't think it's worth looking at any of it that deeply. It's all based on comics fgs :laugh:

If it's an entertaining film it will get a thumbs up from me, if it's not, i will just wait till the next one rolls along

[Quantum Boy]

i just don't think it's worth looking at any of it that deeply. It's all based on comics fgs :laugh:

If it's an entertaining film it will get a thumbs up from me, if it's not, i will just wait till the next one rolls along

The nature of media is that everything is based on something, though... so you can look into it as deeply (or otherwise) as any other human entertainment. At the end of the day it's all just distraction from the void; whether it's a Thor movie, a Beethoven symphony or a thread on TiBB :joker:.

[Nicky91]

now i get this casting honestly


in the comics, Iron Man becomes Doctor Doom

[Quantum Boy]

now i get this casting honestly


in the comics, Iron Man becomes Doctor Doom

In one small iteration. I actually think it might be a red herring to be honest: I think RDJ is going to be a Doctor Doom variant from a timeline where Tony didn't become an Avenger (basically events of Iron Man 1 never happened).

But, I think it'll lead into the introduction of the "main" Doom, and RDJ returning as Iron Man for the 2nd Avengers in this phase. Maybe even RDJ's Iron Man killing off RDJ's Doom variant.

[bots]

Is he going to replace the guy who had some dodgy sexual offences?

[Quantum Boy]

Is he going to replace the guy who had some dodgy sexual offences?

Yes and no. Not the same character (Kang the Conqueror) but they have basically scrapped that entire plotline and started from scratch with a different main villain as the new "Thanos" (Doom). Also the accusations against him are mostly around domestic violence/assault rather than the usual dodgy sex stuff.

It makes Ant Man 3 a weird irrelevance in the overall storyline, but "Loki" Season 2 is what makes it possible in terms of "in-universe logic" -- with Loki becoming the sort of "guardian of the timeline" at the end of that.

Incidentally, Loki S2 is objectively a very well made piece of telly and one of the "post Endgame" MCU things well worth watching simply on its own merits. Well shot, well scripted, well paced, great actors. Slightly unusual for Disney+ :joker:.

[bots]

i really enjoyed Locki, funnily enough, i like Wanda Vision too. I also really liked Jessica Jones so if they extend any of those threads i'm in. The other stuff, i've generally reached my limit on them

[Oliver_W]

I will maintain that Marvel phases 1 - 3 (Iron Man 1 up until Avengers: Endgame) is a piece of cinematic history that is entirely unique and very very much worthwhile. An interwoven, interconnected cinematic universe on that scale has never happened before, and likely never will again, and though moment-to-moment quality varies there's also some genuinely excellent cinema in there too.

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This came first :hmph:

[Nicky91]

i really enjoyed Locki, funnily enough, i like Wanda Vision too. I also really liked Jessica Jones so if they extend any of those threads i'm in. The other stuff, i've generally reached my limit on them

i myself enjoyed Hawkeye, Moon Knight, Ms Marvel, Werewolf by Night the most out of the spin offs/special presentations


although Werewolf by Night, i adore the black/white version more than in color, gives it that special classic touch a la Dracula or Frankenstein if you get what i'm trying to say

[Quantum Boy]

i really enjoyed Locki, funnily enough, i like Wanda Vision too. I also really liked Jessica Jones so if they extend any of those threads i'm in. The other stuff, i've generally reached my limit on them

Jessica Jones & co (the Netflix shows) were taken out of being part of the same universe for a while... then the "new Daredevil series" (same actor) didn't go down well as a concept... so now it's gone back to being a continuation of netflix Daredevil, meaning Jessica Jones is back in the official line-up of shows too. So you never know, she might be back (either a standalone series or featuring in Daredevil).

[bots]

Jessica Jones & co (the Netflix shows) were taken out of being part of the same universe for a while... then the "new Daredevil series" (same actor) didn't go down well as a concept... so now it's gone back to being a continuation of netflix Daredevil, meaning Jessica Jones is back in the official line-up of shows too. So you never know, she might be back (either a standalone series or featuring in Daredevil).

fun fact, the jessica jones actress was the junkie girlfriend in breaking bad that choked to death and whose father caused the plane crash :laugh:

[Quantum Boy]

fun fact, the jessica jones actress was the junkie girlfriend in breaking bad that choked to death and whose father caused the plane crash :laugh:

Yeah we rewatched Breaking Bad recently and I said "Pff, Jessica Jones would never die of some poxy heroin overdose".

And my wife glared at me cos she doesn't watch Marvel stuff so had no idea what I was on about.

[Mystic Mock]

i just don't think it's worth looking at any of it that deeply. It's all based on comics fgs :laugh:

If it's an entertaining film it will get a thumbs up from me, if it's not, i will just wait till the next one rolls along

I get what you're saying to a point.

But I do believe that as viewers we all need to hold some quality standards when partaking in something that's meant to entertain us.

I get that it's not the end of the world if a Film doesn't float your boat, but creatively speaking the only interesting direction I can see Marvel having left is the darker take on the universe with Blade.

Everything else is just copying what Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and Guardians Of The Galaxy have already covered in terms of their tone, style, and general themes that they were all individually covering.

My basic point is that the MCU is creatively dead for the most part, and as usual the Corporation (Disney in this case) is plaguing the Cinema world with this level of quality, which is a problem for the industry imo.

Just like what the Video Game space is currently having with subpar releases of Resident Evil, Sonic, and Yakuza/Like A Dragon installments, instead of new creative ideas that might actually be well written, well made, and feel fresh for the audience.

Not everyone wants the 50 millionth Fast & Furious Movie either, but again Corporations just ignore a huge market, because they're scared of testing something new.

[Nicky91]

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