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arista
12-08-2024, 12:36 PM
Man Arrested
GBnewsHD Live
Westminster Police Tweet
[London´s Metropolitan Police say a man
has been arrested after
an 11-year-old girl and a 34-year-old woman
were stabbed in central London.
Monday's attack occurred in Leicester Square,
which is heavily visited by tourists at this time of year.
Police said the two victims were taken
to a hospital. The extent of their
injuries was not immediately clear.]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-13735483/Police-London-say-man-arrested-child-adult-stabbed-busy-square.html
Livia
12-08-2024, 12:49 PM
They say it's not terrorism. Sounds pretty terrifying to me...
‘ The Metropolitan Police said the two victims had been taken to hospital but were unable to give details about how badly injured they were.’
…I hope that they’re able to make a recovery from their injuries and that neither are fatalities or have life changing physical injuries…
…attacks against females and children particularly are just seeming to be terrifyingly more and more …
arista
12-08-2024, 12:56 PM
They say it's not terrorism. Sounds pretty terrifying to me...
Yes because of the location
I would say it is Terrorism.
I hope they both survive
arista
12-08-2024, 12:58 PM
…attacks against females and children particularly are just seaming to be terrifyingly more and more …
Easy Targets
I hope the Police Name this Terrorist
Easy Targets
I hope the Police Name this Terrorist
…we’ll have to wait for more details to see if they were specifically targeted because the attacker knew them…
Niamh.
12-08-2024, 01:01 PM
…attacks against females and children particularly are just seaming to be terrifyingly more and more …
Yeah, it's awful. I hope they're both ok
Vanessa
12-08-2024, 01:17 PM
Omg I used to go there regularly. Haven't been there in a while.
arista
12-08-2024, 01:25 PM
A Security Guard Jumped on Him
knocked the knife from his hand.
29 year old Security man
Good on him
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user104658
12-08-2024, 01:28 PM
I'd wait for more info before jumping to conclusions because sadly, when women & children are attacked, statistically the most likely culprit is the child's dad or the woman's current/recent ex partner.
Although to be fair, an attack like that being in a busy/public place is more unusual (it's usually at home).
Niamh.
12-08-2024, 01:33 PM
I'd wait for more info before jumping to conclusions because sadly, when women & children are attacked, statistically the most likely culprit is the child's dad or the woman's current/recent ex partner.
Although to be fair, an attack like that being in a busy/public place is more unusual (it's usually at home).
Yeah agree and agree, unless it's an ex with a grudge or something
The injuries of the 11 year-old victim were not life threatening, the police said, adding that she was being treated in hospital.……no update on the woman yet but the child’s injuries thankfully don’t appear to be as serious as they could have been…
Niamh.
12-08-2024, 01:51 PM
The injuries of the 11 year-old victim were not life threatening, the police said, adding that she was being treated in hospital.……no update on the woman yet but the child’s injuries thankfully don’t appear to be as serious as they could have been…
That's good to hear, hopefully the woman is Ok too
arista
12-08-2024, 01:52 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/12/14/88441101-0-image-m-14_1723468867221.jpg
arista
12-08-2024, 01:54 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/12/13/88440059-13735303-image-a-13_1723466867234.jpg
Starmer needs to get a grip on these types of attack
A security guard disarmed a knifeman after an 11-year-old girl and a 34-year-old woman were stabbed in London's Leicester Square.
Abdullah, 29, said he "heard a scream", then "jumped on" the man who was attacking the child before holding him down and taking the knife off him.
"I just saw a kid getting stabbed and I just tried to save her. It's my duty to just save them," he said.
Abdullah said he and his colleagues gave first aid to the child before police arrived.
The victims were treated at the scene before being taken to a hospital's major trauma centre following the attack this morning.
The Metropolitan Police said the girl will require hospital treatment but her injuries aren't life threatening, while the woman suffered minor injuries.
There is no suggestion the incident is terror-related and the force said a man has been arrested and is in custody, adding: "We don't believe there are any outstanding suspects."
Abdullah, who has worked at the TWG Tea shop for up to eight months, said he "heard a scream" and saw there was a person in his early to mid-30s "stabbing a kid".
"I jumped on him, held the hand in which he was (carrying) a knife, and just put him down on the floor and just held him and took the knife away from him," he said.
"Then a couple of more people joined as well, and we just held him until the police came, it took maybe three to four minutes for the police to arrive and then they just took him into custody."
Police officers remain at the scene in central London, which is a popular destination for tourists.
A napkin covered in blood could be seen on the pavement along with objects including lighters and a baseball cap.
The square and the surrounding area have an estimated 2.5m visitors every week and are home to shops, theatres, cinemas and restaurants.
A police cordon has been put in place surrounding the double doors of the TWG Tea shop, which is beside the LEGO store and in front of the M&Ms store
London Ambulance Service spokesperson said they were called at 11.36am to reports of a stabbing at Leicester Square.
"We sent resources to the scene, including an ambulance crew, an advanced paramedic and an incident response officer. We also dispatched members of our tactical response unit," they said.
"We treated a child and an adult at the scene and took them to a major trauma centre."
https://news.sky.com/story/girl-11-and-woman-34-stabbed-in-londons-leicester-square-13195834
Niamh.
12-08-2024, 02:04 PM
Glad they're both OK, well done to that security guard too, a real hero :love:
It takes a lot of courage to take on someone wielding a knife
Could be a disgruntled person not wanting to go home.
arista
12-08-2024, 02:38 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/12/14/88440795-13735303-image-a-2_1723468542870.jpg
[A baseball cap at the scene in
Leicester Square, London,
as a man has been arrested after an
11-year-old girl and 34-year-old woman
were stabbed]
It takes a lot of courage to take on someone wielding a knife
Yeah too right
We all hope we’d have the courage to act but you don’t know until you are put in that situation
Much respect to Abdullah
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thesheriff443
12-08-2024, 03:06 PM
A woman was stabbed in the neck last night in high Wycombe no news as yet on her condition police been at the scene all night and today and have it cordoned off
thesheriff443
12-08-2024, 03:11 PM
Update 45 year old man in police custody for attempted murder after two people were stabbed
It’s in the bucks free press if arista or someone else on tibb wants to post the lonk
user104658
12-08-2024, 03:19 PM
Update 45 year old man in police custody for attempted murder after two people were stabbed
It’s in the bucks free press if arista or someone else on tibb wants to post the lonk
"I appreciate the concern incidents such as this have in the local community, but I would like to reassure the public that at this stage of the investigation, we believe the victims and offender are known to one another, and there is no wider risk to the public."
A lone man fighting a man and a woman, sounds like all of them were armed :umm2:.
IMO that one's an angry ex.
...outside possibility; a dealer.
arista
12-08-2024, 03:20 PM
Police Confirm
The Evil Stabber
did not know them
He picked the 2 at Random
If it was not for the Security Guard
the two would be dead................
Conservative MP Speaking Live Chris Philp
thesheriff443
12-08-2024, 04:04 PM
"I appreciate the concern incidents such as this have in the local community, but I would like to reassure the public that at this stage of the investigation, we believe the victims and offender are known to one another, and there is no wider risk to the public."
A lone man fighting a man and a woman, sounds like all of them were armed :umm2:.
IMO that one's an angry ex.
...outside possibility; a dealer.
It could be something along those lines
arista
12-08-2024, 05:18 PM
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/08/12/6388030322076044635/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_6388030322076044635.jpg
arista
12-08-2024, 05:24 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/12/15/88443155-13735753-image-a-2_1723472795923.jpg
the medical kits used at the time
GoldHeart
12-08-2024, 07:24 PM
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/08/12/6388030322076044635/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_6388030322076044635.jpg
Here we again again with blurring of the face, I think the media wants misinformation to get spread.
Here's a video I found, showing the knifeman. Why won't all channels show his face .
apINe9MaUXo
Police Confirm
The Evil Stabber
did not know them
He picked the 2 at Random
If it was not for the Security Guard
the two would be dead................
Conservative MP Speaking Live Chris Philp
…as well as the attacker apparently not known to the victims, it was also said by a witness…."I think the woman was also stabbed once, but the child was the most targeted, he was stabbing the child several times. Police held him and stood him up and cuffed him.” ….the child is the one who has the most serious injuries…
…full artiicle…
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/leicester-square-stabbing-london-latest-134110936.html
wtf is wrong with the world, when little girls are being knifed
wtf is wrong with the world, when little girls are being knifed
I don’t know but the attacker shouldn’t see the light of day
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Cherie
12-08-2024, 08:38 PM
I just hope this wont become more and more common as these terrorists find that attacking girls is a way to sow division and discord
Thank Allah for Abdullah
Barry.
12-08-2024, 08:43 PM
So scary to be on the streets now
Barry.
12-08-2024, 08:45 PM
Thank god for hero’s like him
Mystic Mock
13-08-2024, 12:12 AM
…attacks against females and children particularly are just seeming to be terrifyingly more and more …
Two things are causing the rise.
1. Religious extremism (primarily coming from Islam if we're being honest) but it is also having some impact on Christianity too.
And 2. Over the last three years there has been a rise on Incel terrorism, I know nowadays that our Counter-Terrorist Unit in this country have to be on the lookout for possible Incel attacks, because it's getting more common.
Mystic Mock
13-08-2024, 12:20 AM
A security guard disarmed a knifeman after an 11-year-old girl and a 34-year-old woman were stabbed in London's Leicester Square.
Abdullah, 29, said he "heard a scream", then "jumped on" the man who was attacking the child before holding him down and taking the knife off him.
"I just saw a kid getting stabbed and I just tried to save her. It's my duty to just save them," he said.
Abdullah said he and his colleagues gave first aid to the child before police arrived.
The victims were treated at the scene before being taken to a hospital's major trauma centre following the attack this morning.
The Metropolitan Police said the girl will require hospital treatment but her injuries aren't life threatening, while the woman suffered minor injuries.
There is no suggestion the incident is terror-related and the force said a man has been arrested and is in custody, adding: "We don't believe there are any outstanding suspects."
Abdullah, who has worked at the TWG Tea shop for up to eight months, said he "heard a scream" and saw there was a person in his early to mid-30s "stabbing a kid".
"I jumped on him, held the hand in which he was (carrying) a knife, and just put him down on the floor and just held him and took the knife away from him," he said.
"Then a couple of more people joined as well, and we just held him until the police came, it took maybe three to four minutes for the police to arrive and then they just took him into custody."
Police officers remain at the scene in central London, which is a popular destination for tourists.
A napkin covered in blood could be seen on the pavement along with objects including lighters and a baseball cap.
The square and the surrounding area have an estimated 2.5m visitors every week and are home to shops, theatres, cinemas and restaurants.
A police cordon has been put in place surrounding the double doors of the TWG Tea shop, which is beside the LEGO store and in front of the M&Ms store
London Ambulance Service spokesperson said they were called at 11.36am to reports of a stabbing at Leicester Square.
"We sent resources to the scene, including an ambulance crew, an advanced paramedic and an incident response officer. We also dispatched members of our tactical response unit," they said.
"We treated a child and an adult at the scene and took them to a major trauma centre."
https://news.sky.com/story/girl-11-and-woman-34-stabbed-in-londons-leicester-square-13195834
Abdullah was very brave.
Hopefully he gets acknowledged by the Media for being the hero that those two victims needed in that scenario.
Mystic Mock
13-08-2024, 12:28 AM
I just hope this wont become more and more common as these terrorists find that attacking girls is a way to sow division and discord
Thank Allah for Abdullah
Hopefully Abdullah shows some people that while there are definitely problematic people that do follow Islam, that not everyone in that community is some barmy Terrorist.
A man has been charged following the stabbing of an 11-year-old girl in Leicester Square.
Ioan Pintaru, 32, of no fixed address was charged with attempted murder and possession of a bladed article.
He was remanded in custody to appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court later this morning.
Police were called to Leicester Square at 11:34hrs on Monday, 12 August following reports of a stabbing.
An 11-year-old girl was found with stab wounds. She was taken to hospital where her injuries, while serious, were assessed as non-life threatening.
It was initially believed that the girl’s mother, a 34-year-old woman, was also hurt however it was later confirmed that blood from her daughter’s injuries had been mistaken for injuries of her own.
Another act of horror/terror perpetrated by a foreign sounding individual ( monster)
Just awaiting his nationality
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A man has been charged following the stabbing of an 11-year-old girl in Leicester Square.
Ioan Pintaru, 32, of no fixed address was charged with attempted murder and possession of a bladed article.
He was remanded in custody to appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court later this morning.
Police were called to Leicester Square at 11:34hrs on Monday, 12 August following reports of a stabbing.
An 11-year-old girl was found with stab wounds. She was taken to hospital where her injuries, while serious, were assessed as non-life threatening.
It was initially believed that the girl’s mother, a 34-year-old woman, was also hurt however it was later confirmed that blood from her daughter’s injuries had been mistaken for injuries of her own.
So it was the little girl that was targeted
Vanessa
13-08-2024, 08:40 AM
Another attack on a little girl. This is really pissing me off. Cowards!
So it was the little girl that was targeted
Lethal injection for these crimes
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Vanessa
13-08-2024, 08:42 AM
Hopefully Abdullah shows some people that while there are definitely problematic people that do follow Islam, that not everyone in that community is some barmy Terrorist.
Definitely. Not all muslims are like that. There are a lot of them who are hardworking and good people.
Vanessa
13-08-2024, 08:44 AM
I just hope this wont become more and more common as these terrorists find that attacking girls is a way to sow division and discord
Thank Allah for Abdullah
I think you nailed it. This is exactly what's going on.
Livia
13-08-2024, 09:06 AM
Hopefully Abdullah shows some people that while there are definitely problematic people that do follow Islam, that not everyone in that community is some barmy Terrorist.
The vast majority of people know this.
Livia
13-08-2024, 09:08 AM
Two things are causing the rise.
1. Religious extremism (primarily coming from Islam if we're being honest) but it is also having some impact on Christianity too.
And 2. Over the last three years there has been a rise on Incel terrorism, I know nowadays that our Counter-Terrorist Unit in this country have to be on the lookout for possible Incel attacks, because it's getting more common.
When was the last time a Christian in this country carried out a terrorist atrocity against women and children?
joeysteele
13-08-2024, 09:21 AM
This again is horrific.
I just am completely puzzled at why people attack children.
( Or anyone for that matter, because I've never believed violence really solves anything).
I can accept there's times to go to war in defence of Countries.
However these crimes just sicken me totally.
I don't know how anyone can stab others.
It just sickens me right through.
Hope he gets a very long sentence despite no death occurring this time, the point is he intended to kill it would appear.
So I hope the sentencing will be severe.
No house, probably did it to get jailed and have a roof over his head. Let's be honest, uk jail is probably better than the street and where hes came from.
Mystic Mock
13-08-2024, 10:27 AM
When was the last time a Christian in this country carried out a terrorist atrocity against women and children?
Weren't there a radical Christian a few years back that rammed a Van into a crowd of Muslims?
Livia
13-08-2024, 12:33 PM
Weren't there a radical Christian a few years back that rammed a Van into a crowd of Muslims?
Was there? Do you have a link?
user104658
13-08-2024, 12:47 PM
No house, probably did it to get jailed and have a roof over his head. Let's be honest, uk jail is probably better than the street and where hes came from.
Not that this doesn't happen Parmy - in fact I once had to call police out for a poor chap trying to kick in windows because he was out on conditional release but wanted to go back to prison - but stabbing a child is a little bit beyond that... I doubt he did it because he wanted room & board.
Not that this doesn't happen Parmy - in fact I once had to call police out for a poor chap trying to kick in windows because he was out on conditional release but wanted to go back to prison - but stabbing a child is a little bit beyond that... I doubt he did it because he wanted room & board.
Its doubters like you that make things hard to figure out and resolve
user104658
13-08-2024, 12:54 PM
Its doubters like you that make things hard to figure out and resolve
Occam's Razor is useful Parmy - if a possibility seems unlikely or unrealistic then the most efficient thing to do is set it aside as false and only return to it if you don't find a more obvious or likely explanation. Spending unnecessary time & energy on wildcard theories is definitely something that makes things harder to figure out.
you can get locked up for much less than murdering a child, so i don't think that is a valid point
joeysteele
13-08-2024, 12:58 PM
you can get locked up for much less than murdering a child, so i don't think that is a valid point
Hopefully it's soon to change now to help ease the prison population.
However you are right, it's been really easier over the last couple of decades to get people locked up for financial crimes, rather than violent ones.
Ridiculous.
I bet Occam had a beard all his life.
arista
13-08-2024, 01:36 PM
Girl, 11, 'needs plastic surgery
after she was put in headlock and stabbed
eight times in "random attack" in
Leicester Square while holidaying with mother',
as Romanian man, 32, appears in
court accused of attempted murder
Evil Terrorist
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13738719/Leicester-Square-stabbing-Ioan-Pintaru-court.html
arista
13-08-2024, 01:38 PM
Another act of horror/terror perpetrated by a foreign sounding individual ( monster)
Just awaiting his nationality
Evil Romanian Terrorist
Like those on Park lane
GoldHeart
13-08-2024, 01:42 PM
Weren't there a radical Christian a few years back that rammed a Van into a crowd of Muslims?
Is that the Paris one or over here ?.
I'm sure I remember one being called far right as his goal was targeting Muslims,and the one in Paris I think...was just randomly killing people.
The only ' Christian ' attack I remember was a disgruntled Jahovis witness losing it or something. Might have been in America.
Cherie
13-08-2024, 02:00 PM
Arista, the mother was not stabbed your title is incorrect, it was reported initially she was stabbed as she had blood on her but that was from her daughter
arista
13-08-2024, 02:15 PM
Arista, the mother was not stabbed your title is incorrect, it was reported initially she was stabbed as she had blood on her but that was from her daughter
Is this better
11 year old Girl, Stabbed by a Homeless Romanian: Leicester Square, London
arista
13-08-2024, 02:18 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/15/16/37810978-9151257-A_homeless_village_has_been_set_up_on_an_upmarket_ street_in_cent-a-63_1610728676366.jpg
The Rest of them
living in tents on Park Lane
My Thread
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=391951&highlight=park+lane+homeless
Cherie
13-08-2024, 04:36 PM
Is this better
11 year old Girl, Stabbed by a Homeless Romanian: Leicester Square, London
yes thank you
arista
13-08-2024, 04:42 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/13/12/88477273-13738719-image-a-42_1723549135460.jpg
The Evil Stabber
Aged 32 from Romania Homeless
arista
13-08-2024, 04:48 PM
[Girl, 11, 'needs plastic surgery
after she was put in headlock and stabbed
eight times in "random attack" in
Leicester Square]
I would kick his head in
Evil Migrant
GoldHeart
13-08-2024, 04:52 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/13/12/88477273-13738719-image-a-42_1723549135460.jpg
The Evil Stabber
Aged 32 from Romania Homeless
Well at least his face is being shown now ,I don't know why most news channels were blurring his face to begin with.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/13/12/88477273-13738719-image-a-42_1723549135460.jpg
The Evil Stabber
Aged 32 from Romania Homeless
Just aa expected
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[Girl, 11, 'needs plastic surgery
after she was put in headlock and stabbed
eight times in "random attack" in
Leicester Square]
I would kick his head in
Evil Migrant
Stabbed in face and neck repeatedly .. they should tie him up and leave him in a room with parents and extended family
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Vanessa
13-08-2024, 05:53 PM
Stabbed in face and neck repeatedly .. they should tie him up and leave him in a room with parents and extended family
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That's just awful. Poor girl.
That's just awful. Poor girl.
The thing is we are so lenient in this country he will probably get 10 years and be out after 4
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Mystic Mock
13-08-2024, 10:40 PM
Is that the Paris one or over here ?.
I'm sure I remember one being called far right as his goal was targeting Muslims,and the one in Paris I think...was just randomly killing people.
The only ' Christian ' attack I remember was a disgruntled Jahovis witness losing it or something. Might have been in America.
My bad I think that you're correct about it being in France.
Sorry Livia
Redway
14-08-2024, 12:37 AM
All talk of him being a terrorist has suddenly been silenced now-that we know he’s white.
GoldHeart
14-08-2024, 02:20 AM
All talk of him being a terrorist has suddenly been silenced now-that we know he’s white.
He's Romanian
And if you don't think stabbing an innocent defenceless child repeatedly, isn't some form of 'terror attack'?...then really don't know what to tell you. He targeted the child , can't get anymore sick & effed up than that. He clearly wanted to do SERIOUS harm/kill .
I just hope the poor child recovers, god knows how she might never be the same again after something so horrifying. The mother must be really going through it psychologically ...after witnessing something so traumatic happening to her child. She must have felt helpless.
If I was a mother ,and some unhinged Psycho ever tried attacking my child, I'd like to think I'd shield my child .And try and fight / defend somehow...even if it meant getting brutally stabbed myself. A knife man out to
assault someone or people in general, CANNOT be reasoned with. And they should throw away the key!.
The security guard Abdullah was a brave hero to step in. And he should get the praise he deserves.
Redway
14-08-2024, 03:01 AM
He's Romanian
And if you don't think stabbing an innocent defenceless child repeatedly, isn't some form of 'terror attack'?...then really don't know what to tell you. He targeted the child , can't get anymore sick & effed up than that. He clearly wanted to do SERIOUS harm/kill .
I just hope the poor child recovers, god knows how she might never be the same again after something so horrifying. The mother must be really going through it psychologically ...after witnessing something so traumatic happening to her child. She must have felt helpless.
If I was a mother ,and some unhinged Psycho ever tried attacking my child, I'd like to think I'd shield my child .And try and fight / defend somehow...even if it meant getting brutally stabbed myself. A knife man out to
assault someone or people in general, CANNOT be reasoned with. And they should throw away the key!.
The security guard Abdullah was a brave hero to step in. And he should get the praise he deserves.
Listen, stop your nonsense. You know what I’m talking about.
Listen, stop your nonsense. You know what I’m talking about.
Sadly we don’t
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…it really is terrifying, that a child again has been the target and there is no doubt that he intended to kill…and I do agree that it may have been ‘a random attack’…but it’s yet another attack on a child that is causing terror so still a terror attack also…
Cherie
14-08-2024, 07:37 AM
Listen, stop your nonsense. You know what I’m talking about.
Of course he is a terrorist, but I am sure the mental health card will be played
thesheriff443
14-08-2024, 07:53 AM
Of course he is a terrorist, but I am sure the mental health card will be played
I can’t understand why people just think the mental health card is being used by the government to cover up terrorism
Metal health can see someone jump in front a train like the cricketer or attack random people
There is going to be an enquiry into the man that killed three random people last year because of failings in the mental health system
I’ve said it for years you don’t know who is standing next to you when out in public
To me there is a distinction between terrorist acts and acts committed by someone who is mentally ill. I don't think it devalues a crime to say that it is not terrorism. If anything non-terror attacks can be much worse, more alarming and much more incomprehensible.
The reason that terrorism is quite strictly defined is because it affects the whole judicial process and different powers are involved when dealing with a terror attack. We don't need to categorise every act of evil as an act of terror imo.
thesheriff443
14-08-2024, 08:26 AM
To me there is a distinction between terrorist acts and acts committed by someone who is mentally ill. I don't think it devalues a crime to say that it is not terrorism. If anything non-terror attacks can be much worse, more alarming and much more incomprehensible.
The reason that terrorism is quite strictly defined is because it affects the whole judicial process and different powers are involved when dealing with a terror attack. We don't need to categorise every act of evil as an act of terror imo.
A steady hand on the wheel of life as always Matt
Mystic Mock
14-08-2024, 08:31 AM
All talk of him being a terrorist has suddenly been silenced now-that we know he’s white.
Well it certainly shouldn't be imo.
He is a Terrorist, regardless of his skin colour.
Mystic Mock
14-08-2024, 08:37 AM
To me there is a distinction between terrorist acts and acts committed by someone who is mentally ill. I don't think it devalues a crime to say that it is not terrorism. If anything non-terror attacks can be much worse, more alarming and much more incomprehensible.
The reason that terrorism is quite strictly defined is because it affects the whole judicial process and different powers are involved when dealing with a terror attack. We don't need to categorise every act of evil as an act of terror imo.
Looking at the definition of Terrorism, the law enforcement would have to find evidence of this guy having a Political message that he was trying to convey to have it classed under Terrorism.
In my view though, attacking someone in front of the public to scare them (and possibly attack them as well) should also be classed under Terrorism, but I do see where you're coming from MTVN.
Vanessa
14-08-2024, 08:59 AM
Looking at the definition of Terrorism, the law enforcement would have to find evidence of this guy having a Political message that he was trying to convey to have it classed under Terrorism.
In my view though, attacking someone in front of the public to scare them (and possibly attack them as well) should also be classed under Terrorism, but I do see where you're coming from MTVN.
Yes I agree. It should be classed as that.
user104658
14-08-2024, 11:30 AM
Where's the British Lad Lad Lad's uproar over this one? It seems muted? Even though it is, still, a non-British person who has committed this horrific act. I wonder what the difference between this immigrant and the ones they're so upset about is? :think: I wonder what it is? I can't put my finger on any fundamental difference between them. Rly weird. One to ponder.
GoldHeart
14-08-2024, 11:44 AM
Where's the British Lad Lad Lad's uproar over this one? It seems muted? Even though it is, still, a non-British person who has committed this horrific act. I wonder what the difference between this immigrant and the ones they're so upset about is? :think: I wonder what it is? I can't put my finger on any fundamental difference between them. Rly weird. One to ponder.
I don't think people are going to riot every time there's a stabbing or attack.... otherwise it would be all day every day utter chaos in the Streets ....which would be impossible to live with , there is still uproar & upset that these types of sickening crimes are more frequent now.
If people protested and rioted every time there was a stabbing, there wouldn't be rest or peace . Plus not to
mention the idiots going out of their way to cause trouble in these riots , they now know it carries
punishment and a heavy criminal record .
user104658
14-08-2024, 12:34 PM
I don't think people are going to riot every time there's a stabbing or attack.... otherwise it would be all day every day utter chaos in the Streets ....which would be impossible to live with , there is still uproar & upset that these types of sickening crimes are more frequent now.
If people protested and rioted every time there was a stabbing, there wouldn't be rest or peace . Plus not to
mention the idiots going out of their way to cause trouble in these riots , they now know it carries
punishment and a heavy criminal record .
I'm sure that's it.
GoldHeart
14-08-2024, 02:35 PM
I'm sure that's it.
:conf: :shrug:
Erm were people not getting in trouble with the police over tweets/ social media posts ,as well as disruptive riot behaviour? . You don't think that will make them think twice before going on a rampage again?. Obviously we can't speak for all of them...but still .
You're not making sense on your immigration argument, regardless of skin tone... surely they'd still be xenophobia kicking about then ?.
You're saying the ' typical British far right yob' is only in a tizzy of rage when the criminal is black or middle eastern etc ?,is that really the road we're going down today?? . When in reality those said people who froth at the mouth ... would still be in a tizzy of anger at e.g white looking eastern European?.
It feels more like certain people wish this criminal was white British,so they could have more weight to their theory / your theory . But in reality....the criminal would still be seen as ' a immigrant/foreigner' regardless of how light or dark his skin is ?.
I'm sure that's it.
If you think I'm going 9 months prison for airing my views on this piece of ****, you can think again.
The 11 year old girl was an australian tourist, she has now been discharged from hospital
arista
14-08-2024, 05:10 PM
The 11 year old girl was an Australian tourist, she has now been discharged from hospital
At least she is
out of the hospital now.
GoldHeart
14-08-2024, 05:38 PM
At least she is
out of the hospital now.
I wish her a speedy recovery, like I said...how do you get over something so horrible.
Girl, 11, stabbed in Leicester Square attack is Australian, government confirms…
The 11-year-old girl who was stabbed eight times in Leicester Square this week is an Australian national, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Tradeconfirmed late Wednesday night.
The girl was visiting London with her mother at the time of the attack. She was hospitalised and required plastic surgery for wounds to her face, shoulder, wrist and neck, a court was told on Tuesday.
A DFAT spokesperson said consular assistance was being provided to two Australians in London. No other details were provided.
Police were called to reports of the stabbing in the central London square just after 11.30am on Monday 12 August. Ioan Pintaru, 32, appeared at Westminster magistrates court on Tuesday 13 August, charged with attempted murder and possession of a bladed article in a public place, which the court heard was a steak knife.
The court heard Pintaru was a Romanian citizen of no fixed address. The charges were read to him via an interpreter during the 10-minute hearing.
David Burns, prosecuting, said a woman and her 11-year-old daughter were in Leicester Square as tourists when the defendant “approached the 11-year-old girl, placed her into a headlock … then stabbed her eight times to the body”.
He added: “She sustained wounds to the face, shoulder, wrist and neck area. Fortunately, members of the public intervened, which prevented any further injury to the child.”
He added that the defendant had been detained and searched and a knife had been found on his person.
The girl was taken to hospital where she remains and is undergoing treatment. “I understand that she required plastic surgery for the injuries she sustained,” Burns said.
Officers were called and “found the defendant being held by the members of the public”, the prosecutor added.
Pintaru was remanded in custody and will appear at the Old Bailey on 10 September.
A security guard who works at TWG Tea shop in Leicester Square and gave his name as Abdullah, 29, said had “jumped on” and taken a knife from the attacker.
The security guard, named Abdullah, told the ABC he was working inside the store where the girl was visiting and “heard a scream” about 11.30am.
“I started running towards the guy. I jumped on the guy and held his hand, which was carrying the knife,” Abdullah said.
“I tackled him down on the floor and then kicked the knife away from him. And there were a couple of guys who came for help and they grabbed him as well.”
Abdullah said that he held the man down for around four minutes, alongside other witnesses, until police arrived and arrested him.
“I’ve never seen anything like it before, it was horrible,” he said, but admitted he didn’t feel scared.
“I would say that I’m a brave person. We Pakistanis are brave by heart as. So I wasn’t scared.”
Abdullah received a round of applause and was recognised for his bravery at Pakistan’s London High Commission independence day celebrations on Wednesday.
The Commission wrote on Facebook that “special tribute was also paid to the Pakistani brave young man, Abdullah, who heroically tackled an attacker at Leicester Square in London and saved lives of a mother and a child from stabbing attack.”
Former UK Labour MP Khalid Mahmood was in attendance and also honoured Abdullah as “our hero” in a post to X.
Its brilliant that this brave mans brave actions have been recognised and commended, if only stamers had shown the window cleaner of southport the same credit in his speech to the nation, he didnt even mention him.
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