What is the greatest gift God has given to the earth's occupants.

[Beso]

Apart from oxygen.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Benjamin]

Natural landscapes

[Niamh.]

I don't believe in god :hee:

[Benjamin]

I don't believe in god :hee:

You don’t believe in me? Rude.

[Niamh.]

You don’t believe in me? Rude.

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[Kate!]

Music

[Cherie]

Dogs

[Beso]

I don't want to be picky but I would say we found and invented music ourselves. Also dogs I would class as an earth occupier.

[Beso]

Natural landscapes

Yes. He was on the ball there.

[Niamh.]

I don't want to be picky but I would say we found and invented music ourselves. Also dogs I would class as an earth occupier.

Just from a practical point of view, water is a must

[arista]

I don't believe in god :hee:


You Are Most Wise

[Niamh.]

You Are Most Wise

:douf:

[Beso]

:douf:

Dont listen to him...the odds of everything lining up in perfect unison, to make the earth inhabitable, like the sun, the earth and the moon after a big bang are far greater than those of God being real.:smug:

[UserSince2005]

Gemma Collins tbh

[smudgie]

Nature.
All things nature.

[bots]

god doesn't exist

[Crimson Dynamo]

god doesn't exist

free will


I forgot about that one

[Strictly Jake]

Food!

[bots]

the talking snake

[Glenn.]

Nothing because he isn’t real

[Niamh.]

the talking snakeThe burning bush

[Beso]

Nothing because he isn’t real

Oh ok...must have been the largest explosion known ever that caused all this beauty then :hehe:

[Glenn.]

Oh ok...must have been the largest explosion known ever that caused all this beauty then :hehe:

More likely than a “man” in the sky :hehe:

[Beso]

More likely than a “man” in the sky :hehe:

It's actually not if you run the odds through it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The burning bush

You can get a cream for that from Boots

[Niamh.]

You can get a cream for that from Boots[emoji23]

[Mystic Mock]

Either Birmingham City or Italian food.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't want to be picky but I would say we found and invented music ourselves. Also dogs I would class as an earth occupier.

How about breasts?

[Livia]

The seasons.

[Glenn.]

It's actually not if you run the odds through it.

I mean we can sort of see the creation of the universe. We’ve yet to see the make believe man in the sky

[Niamh.]

I mean we can sort of see the creation of the universe. We’ve yet to see the make believe man in the sky

Whatever the origin of the creation of everything was, I don't believe our brains are able to comprehend it. All I know is that I definitely don't believe that any of the religions are accurate, they're all man made and so clearly "of there time" and reek of controlling the masses through fear and restriction. I do understand peoples need to make sense of life and to hope we go on after we die but tbh I think that need and want is the only reason religions have endured for so long

***Just my opinion......

[Crimson Dynamo]

Every picture we have ever seen of our Milky Way from afar has been fake

It is aways an approximation of how we believe it looks

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[Niamh.]

Do you believe in god this week LT? :fan:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Whatever the origin of the creation of everything was, I don't believe our brains are able to comprehend it. All I know is that I definitely don't believe that any of the religions are accurate, they're all man made and so clearly "of there time" and reek of controlling the masses through fear and restriction. I do understand peoples need to make sense of life and to hope we go on after we die but tbh I think that need and want is the only reason religions have endured for so long

***Just my opinion......

Religion was originally used to do the opposite

It was to stop murder, invasions etc and allow people to live harmoniously so that agriculture and building and civilizations could prosper

"By including ever-watchful ancestors, spirits and gods in the social realm, humans discovered an effective strategy for restraining selfishness and building more cooperative groups"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_origin_of_religion#:~:text=According% 20to%20Dr.%20de%20Waal,behavior%20to%20include%20s upernatural%20agents.

There is a brilliant chapter on this in the excellent book Sapiens

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[Niamh.]

Religion was originally used to do the opposite

It was to stop murder, invasions etc and allow people to live harmoniously so that agriculture and building and civilizations could prosper

"By including ever-watchful ancestors, spirits and gods in the social realm, humans discovered an effective strategy for restraining selfishness and building more cooperative groups"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_origin_of_religion#:~:text=According% 20to%20Dr.%20de%20Waal,behavior%20to%20include%20s upernatural%20agents.

There is a brilliant chapter on this in the excellent book Sapiens

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Still a man made concept to control the masses though and it certainly was used the way I said also

[bots]

if god created the universe, who created god.

[Niamh.]

if god created the universe, who created god.

God's dad
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[Crimson Dynamo]

if god created the universe, who created god.

only created things have a creator

[bots]

God's dad
https://media.tenor.com/6Ju_FlRfSGUAAAAM/tkt-smart.gif

So gods Dad is really god then, god then becomes a bit like jesus :laugh:

[Beso]

I mean we can sort of see the creation of the universe. We’ve yet to see the make believe man in the sky

If we can still see the big bang, we would also still hear the big bang..we cant, so it's a lot of shite.

[Niamh.]

only created things have a creator

:hehe:
It is not Historical fact as the only source we have for this is the bible and that is a highly revised and bias religious text - not the most reliable. :hugesmile:

[Glenn.]

If we can still see the big bang, we would also still hear the big bang..we cant, so it's a lot of shite.

You can still see the Big Bang

[Glenn.]

From speeding galaxies to ancient gas clouds, there is evidence that we can detect today – the remnants of the Big Bang, that tell a clear story about the origins of our Universe

[Beso]

From speeding galaxies to ancient gas clouds, there is evidence that we can detect today – the remnants of the Big Bang, that tell a clear story about the origins of our Universe

Whens it going to start falling backwards on itself then?
It won't, because it's not been a big bang. Our distant stars are accelerating away from us at increasing speeds, the speed would remain the same or slow down if it was a big bang, they ain't though, they are speeding up the further away they get..

[bots]

time and distance are an integral part of each other, so the further we can see, the further we can look back in time, hence why we can see the origins of the big bang.

The light that we see from stars is millions and billions of years old. Many of those stars that we see in the sky no longer exist today. Thats the nature of the universe

[bots]

Whens it going to start falling backwards on itself then?
It won't, because it's not been a big bang. Our distant stars are accelerating away from us at increasing speeds, the speed would remain the same or slow down if it was a big bang, they ain't though, they are speeding up the further away they get..

objects are constantly changing speed as they collide, repel or attract each other

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why was there such low entropy before the Big Bang?

[Kazanne]

Animals .

[Glenn.]

Why was there such low entropy before the Big Bang?

It was too dense

Particles had fewer places to roam than they do today.

[Beso]

Why was there such low entropy before the Big Bang?

There was nothing before the big bang, so if you buy into the big bang theory, then you have to believe there was absolutely nothing, then somehow an almighty explosion occurred, and exploded the nothing into all this wee see now..like a giant burning ball, or a dried up lump of moon stuff..a planet with rings round it, a planet perfectly aligned with a sun and a moon that creates water and breathable air...all from absolutely nothing remember..

[Niamh.]

There was nothing before the big bang, so if you buy into the big bang theory, then you have to believe there was absolutely nothing, then somehow an almighty explosion occurred, and exploded the nothing into all this wee see now..like a giant burning ball, or a dried up lump of moon stuff..a planet with rings round it, a planet perfectly aligned with a sun and a moon that creates water and breathable air...all from absolutely nothing remember..

Maybe god is a giant burning ball

[Beso]

Maybe god is a giant burning ball

I would say that more likely to be bezelbebub

[Glenn.]

There was nothing before the big bang, so if you buy into the big bang theory, then you have to believe there was absolutely nothing, then somehow an almighty explosion occurred, and exploded the nothing into all this wee see now..like a giant burning ball, or a dried up lump of moon stuff..a planet with rings round it, a planet perfectly aligned with a sun and a moon that creates water and breathable air...all from absolutely nothing remember..

You’ve got it!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe god is a giant burning ball

or a DJ

[Niamh.]

or a DJ

:shocked:



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[Beso]

Maybe god is a giant burning ball

You’ve got it!



You do know scientists believe god could have created the big bang, seeing as it exploded from nothing into something.

[Niamh.]

You do know scientists believe god could have created the big bang, seeing as it exploded from nothing into something.

Where did god come from in that case?

[Glenn.]

You do know scientists believe god could have created the big bang, seeing as it exploded from nothing into something.

6% of scientists…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Genesis 2:18
Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.”


aaaand it all went to sh1t..

:idc:

you would not Adam and Eve it

[Beso]

Where did god come from in that case?

Bristol.

[Niamh.]

Bristol.

:joker:

[Glenn.]

Would love to see Parms proof of god

[Beso]

Would love to see Parms proof of god

Let there be light....big bang...there was light.:shrug:


The Big Bang doesn’t prove or disprove anything other than why our observable universe is the way it is, the big bang was god creating everything..in my opinion..

[Niamh.]

Let there be light....big bang...there was light.:shrug:


The Big Bang doesn’t prove or disprove anything other than why our observable universe is the way it is, the big bang was god creating everything..in my opinion..

So do you believe in the bible/religious god or just that you think there must be some god to have created the big bang?

[Beso]

So do you believe in the bible/religious god or just that you think there must be some god to have created the big bang?

The 2nd bit...

Noah's ark was a spaceship.


Edit.. I think I believe in both actually....

[Kate!]

This thread. :laugh:

It has amused me.

[Niamh.]

The 2nd bit...

Noah's ark was a spaceship.

you never noah :laugh:

[Beso]

Maybe mary was the big bang?

[bots]

KODskj8gd74

[Niamh.]

Maybe mary was the big bang?

Mary was never banged remember :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was
formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit
of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the
light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the
light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and
there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water
from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault
from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there
was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9. Took her for a drink on Tuesday 10. We were making love by Wednesday
12. And on Thursday and Friday and Saturday 13. We chilled on Sunday

[Niamh.]

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was
formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit
of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the
light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the
light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and
there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water
from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault
from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there
was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9. Took her for a drink on Tuesday 10. We were making love by Wednesday
12. And on Thursday and Friday and Saturday 13. We chilled on Sunday

The Ice age?

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Ice age?

The Craig Davonian Period, in geologic time, an interval of the Paleozoic Era that follows the Silurian Period and precedes the Carboniferous Period, spanning between about 419.2 million and 358.9 million years ago.

can I get a rewind?

[Beso]

I live it when they say 30 trillion years, but then add a point to make it sound more believable.

30 trillion years ago and it started in novemeber of that year you know.

[Kate!]

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was
formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit
of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the
light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the
light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and
there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water
from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault
from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there
was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9. Took her for a drink on Tuesday 10. We were making love by Wednesday
12. And on Thursday and Friday and Saturday 13. We chilled on Sunday

:joker::joker: genius!

[MTVN]

Personally I do believe in God and I think that universal truths and human salvation are the two greatest gifts of Christianity

There will always be doubt though

[Crimson Dynamo]

Personally I do believe in God and I think that universal truths and human salvation are the two greatest gifts of Christianity

There will always be doubt though

There is doubt that Big Ange will make Christmas

so

horses for courses

[MTVN]

There is doubt that Big Ange will make Christmas

so

horses for courses

That would truly be divine intervention

[Crimson Dynamo]

That would truly be divine intervention

amen