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Niamh.
17-09-2024, 10:34 AM
bots Ammi Just finished listening to a podcast on this case from the late 80's/early 90's, hadn't heard of it before but I think it was quite a big story at the time. It's an interesting one, this show about it is coming to Netflix on the 19th of this month

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LaLaLand
17-09-2024, 11:40 AM
Looking forward to this, the Jeffrey Dahmer series last time was fantastic albeit harrowing.

I thought given the end of that series that this would be about John Wayne Gacy since he featured briefly in it so was surprised they’ve gone down the route of The Menendez Brothers.

If what they say (and others) is to be believed it’s not the brothers who were technically the “monsters” either so I’m intrigued to see how this pans out and how the brothers are portrayed.

Niamh.
17-09-2024, 11:47 AM
Looking forward to this, the Jeffrey Dahmer series last time was fantastic albeit harrowing.

I thought given the end of that series that this would be about John Wayne Gacy since he featured briefly in it so was surprised they’ve gone down the route of The Menendez Brothers.

If what they say (and others) is to be believed it’s not the brothers who were technically the “monsters” either so I’m intrigued to see how this pans out and how the brothers are portrayed.

Yeah, it's a complicated story/family dynamic to say the least...

Niamh.
17-09-2024, 11:51 AM
Also, maybe why they've went with this story next is (don't click if you don't know anything about the story and don't want to know)

There's some new evidence that supports the brothers claim of sexual abuse that they're hoping could get their sentence reduced/free them which I hope happens

Ammi
17-09-2024, 12:10 PM
…this always comes up on my homepage when I click on a Netflix…(…it’s annoying because I tried to click on it the first time and Netflix now do this ‘coming soon’ teaser thing, when it used to be just things new and showing….anyway, I have my eye on it ready for its launch…I’m not sure whether I know any of the story or not and I don’t want to Google and see any information…I just want to go into it blind…

Niamh.
17-09-2024, 01:10 PM
…this always comes up on my homepage when I click on a Netflix…(…it’s annoying because I tried to click on it the first time and Netflix now do this ‘coming soon’ teaser thing, when it used to be just things new and showing….anyway, I have my eye on it ready for its launch…I’m not sure whether I know any of the story or not and I don’t want to Google and see any information…I just want to go into it blind…

Yeah, if I were you I'd go in blind, I guess just bear in mind it's a dramatisation rather than documentary. I hope they stay as truthful to the real story as they can though (I'm sure they will)

bots
19-09-2024, 06:22 AM
that's today, i will look out for it!

LaLaLand
19-09-2024, 06:59 AM
It’s been announced that the next series will be all about Ed Gein with Charlie Hunnam playing him.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/monster-season-3-charlie-hunnam-ed-gein-1236147000/

Gein, who also hailed from Wisconsin like Dahmer, became infamous in the 1950s when authorities discovered that he not only had killed multiple people, but had dug up graves from a cemetery near his home and fashioned all manner of household items and clothing from human remains. Gein’s case served as an inspiration for several major pop culture characters later on, including Norman Bates in “Psycho” and Buffalo Bill in “Silence of the Lambs.”

:omgno:

Niamh.
19-09-2024, 09:26 AM
that's today, i will look out for it!

I'll probably wait till tomorrow night to start it, looking forward to seeing what they do with it though after listening to the true facts of the case, i hope they don't mess around with it too much (they really shouldn't have to either because the truth is as strange in this case imo)

It’s been announced that the next series will be all about Ed Gein with Charlie Hunnam playing him.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/monster-season-3-charlie-hunnam-ed-gein-1236147000/



:omgno:

Oh I like Charlie Hunnam, that story sounds gruesome

Ammi
19-09-2024, 09:43 AM
…it’s had some criticism…or I should say that Netflix has had criticism for ‘glamourising serial killers’…I didn’t read the article yet as I didn’t get a chance, I just read the headline a few days ago…let me see if I can find it…

Ammi
19-09-2024, 09:45 AM
Sons of Anarchy star Charlie Hunnam has been cast as the notorious serial killer Ed Gein in season three of the Netflix show Monster by Ryan Murphy and not everyone is happy about the choice.

The true crime anthology series is set to return to Netflix on 19 September with the focus being on the Menendez brothers, Lyle and Erik, who were convicted of the murder of their parents in 1996.

Season one of the hit show saw Mare of Easttown and X-Men star Evan Peters play Jeffrey Dahmer, the man also known as the ‘Milwaukee Cannibal’ or the ‘Milwaukee Monster’, who committed the murder and dismemberment of 17 men and boys between 1978 and 1991.

Even before season two has landed on Netflix, the show has announced that season three will concentrate on Ed Gein, a serial killer who has inspired numerous fictional killers in pop culture including Leatherface in The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Norman Bates in Psycho and Buffalo Bill in The Silence of the Lambs.

44-year-old Hunnam will play Gein, who in 1957 was revealed to have murdered two women and robbed multiple graves, using the stolen body parts to decorate his home and even create furniture and clothing.

This won’t be the first time that Gein’s story has been recreated. A 2000 film named In the Light of the Moon, but also known as Ed Gein, starring Steve Railsback was largely panned by critics.

Reaction to a new depiction of Gein’s story has already faced some pushback on social media, with many feeling that Hunnam isn’t the right person to play the role.

One person wrote: “Unpopular opinion: we need to stop romanticising serial killers. I love Charlie Hunnam and am willing to see this portrayal, but Ed Gein is not a person I’d ever want to meet in real life.”

A second added: “Ed Gein is evil. These killers are evil. These Ryan Murphy shows are making them into sex symbols.”

A third said: “Ed Gein was one of the worst serial killers to ever live, he inspired Psycho and Leatherface and he did not look like Charlie Hunnam. He should not be hot.”

The Monster series, despite becoming a sensation has not been without controversy. After the first season became a hit it was soon condemned by many viewers who felt it was exploitative.

Families of Jeffrey Dahmer’s victims also spoke out, saying the series was re-traumatising. A Milwaukee attorney, who previously represented a number of the families, later called on Murphy to share the profits with his former clients.

“The only meaningful Dahmer victim family action on Murphy’s part would be a monetary consideration from the Netflix profits for their exploitation and continuing trauma,” attorney Thomas M Jacobson said at the time.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/netflix-told-stop-romanticising-serial-120501551.html

Ammi
20-09-2024, 06:30 AM
…I watched one and a bit episodes, it was pretty good…I’m not sure that I was familiar with the story of the brothers at all so that makes it more intriguing…

Niamh.
20-09-2024, 07:04 AM
…I watched one and a bit episodes, it was pretty good…I’m not sure that I was familiar with the story of the brothers at all so that makes it more intriguing…I'm going to start it tonight

Niamh.
20-09-2024, 10:33 AM
I'm doing my best to avoid online reaction to this but I'm getting the impression a lot of people aren't happy with how the show is going Vs fact or popular opinions on the case

Ammi
20-09-2024, 02:39 PM
I'm doing my best to avoid online reaction to this but I'm getting the impression a lot of people aren't happy with how the show is going Vs fact or popular opinions on the case

…oh, other than that first article that I posted which was more a Netflix in general criticism of glamourising serial killers, I haven’t read anything else specific to the series…I guess because it only began airing yesterday and I haven’t tapped into much newsfeed today yet…I think I’ll try to avoid anything as well because I want to view it without any prejudice or bias and after watching the first bit, I realise that I wasn’t familiar with the story…that’s the way that I like to go into things…

Niamh.
20-09-2024, 02:59 PM
…oh, other than that first article that I posted which was more a Netflix in general criticism of glamourising serial killers, I haven’t read anything else specific to the series…I guess because it only began airing yesterday and I haven’t tapped into much newsfeed today yet…I think I’ll try to avoid anything as well because I want to view it without any prejudice or bias and after watching the first bit, I realise that I wasn’t familiar with the story…that’s the way that I like to go into things…Like I said I haven't even started it yet myself but I might be advising you to watch a documentary or read up about it afterwards if it's not being very honest!

Ammi
20-09-2024, 03:03 PM
Like I said I haven't even started it yet myself but I might be advising you to watch a documentary or read up about it afterwards if it's not being very honest!

…yeah, that’s totally cool, advise away…whenever I watch a dramatised true life story, I generally try to find out as much factual stuff as I can about it afterwards just to get as many of the aspects as I can…

Ammi
21-09-2024, 06:49 AM
…I’m at the stage when I’m finding it difficult to put it down now so I’m racing/binging through…its a fascinating story…I don’t know how accurate it is because I wasn’t aware of the brothers or their parents etc…the only thing that I’ve glanced at and skimmed through is Wiki and it seems to be quite accurate…

Niamh.
21-09-2024, 07:35 AM
…I’m at the stage when I’m finding it difficult to put it down now so I’m racing/binging through…its a fascinating story…I don’t know how accurate it is because I wasn’t aware of the brothers or their parents etc…the only thing that I’ve glanced at and skimmed through is Wiki and it seems to be quite accurate…I watched the first 5 episodes, tbh I think it's mostly accurate. There's a few things that aren't but the main important things are. Ep 5 was really powerful and compelling I thought and that was all very accurate

Ammi
21-09-2024, 07:37 AM
I watched the first 5 episodes, tbh I think it's mostly accurate. There's a few things that aren't but the main important things are. Ep 5 was really powerful and compelling I thought and that was all very accurate

…was that the hurt man one…?…yeah, that was so powerful…I’ve been pretty captivated and spellbound by their story…

Niamh.
21-09-2024, 07:45 AM
…was that the hurt man one…?…yeah, that was so powerful…I’ve been pretty captivated and spellbound by their story…Yes, that one

Niamh.
21-09-2024, 08:40 AM
Just one thing or things really so far that they've changed that kind of bothers me because it's unnecessary, the story already has a lot of material to work with and I found it a bit gross and offensive is

the way they portray the brothers as being very touchy feely, kissing eachother etc none of that is true. Yes it's true that Lyle briefly abused Erik when they were very young but not the other things when they were older. In fact apparently they found it difficult to be physically affectionate with eachother, even hugs were awkward. Also, this thing about Erik in prison and the thing he had with other inmate is not true. They weren't put in general population at all in fact while waiting on their trial because they were so high profile so again the shower scene etc just seemed very gratuitous, especially when it's childhood sexual abuse victims they're portraying

Ammi
21-09-2024, 08:56 AM
…I guess the thing with the other inmate was a fictionalisation just to touch on Erik’s sexuality because that was apparently something that prosecutors honed in on…that it wasn’t abuse because Erik was homosexual …I mean, can you imagine…but that thought process was sadly of it’s time…I mean, I’m only thinking that’s why they fictionalised that storyline but I don’t know…this is what I read in an article…


Erik Menendez’s sexuality largely played out in the first trial. Prosecutor Lester Kuriyama repeatedly tried to bring up the issue of Erik’s sexuality, but Judge Weissberg refused to allow it. During his closing argument, he argued to the jury that Jose had not forced Erik into homosexual acts, but was in fact furious that Erik was gay.

However, Erik told Barabra Walters in 1996 that he is not gay. “The prosecutor brought that up because I was sexually molested. He felt in his own thinking that I was sodomized by my father, I must have enjoyed it,” he told the reporter. “A lot of gay people feel connected to me.”



…Erik did apparently say that ‘gay people felt connected to him…’…so was that part just fictionalised to show that …as in the conversation he did say that he wasn’t attracted to men or something similar but the homosexual inmate was very attracted and drawn to him…

Ammi
21-09-2024, 08:57 AM
…I will read more of their story as I get the chance…

Niamh.
21-09-2024, 09:02 AM
…I guess the thing with the other inmate was a fictionalisation just to touch on Erik’s sexuality because that was apparently something that prosecutors honed in on…that it wasn’t abuse because Erik was homosexual …I mean, can you imagine…but that thought process was sadly of it’s time…I mean, I’m only thinking that’s why they fictionalised that storyline but I don’t know…this is what I read in an article…





Erik Menendez’s sexuality largely played out in the first trial. Prosecutor Lester Kuriyama repeatedly tried to bring up the issue of Erik’s sexuality, but Judge Weissberg refused to allow it. During his closing argument, he argued to the jury that Jose had not forced Erik into homosexual acts, but was in fact furious that Erik was gay.



However, Erik told Barabra Walters in 1996 that he is not gay. “The prosecutor brought that up because I was sexually molested. He felt in his own thinking that I was sodomized by my father, I must have enjoyed it,” he told the reporter. “A lot of gay people feel connected to me.”







…Erik did apparently say that ‘gay people felt connected to him…’…so was that part just fictionalised to show that …as in the conversation he did say that he wasn’t attracted to men or something similar but the homosexual inmate was very attracted and drawn to him…he said on the show he had a relationship with a boy at school which isn't true and that whole thing with the inmate isn't true. I think it's gross that the TV show makers ran with a pretty disgusting narrative that the prosecuters made up to try and make it seem like Erik enjoyed his father raping him

Ammi
21-09-2024, 09:13 AM
…the whole story is just so screwed up and the monster characteristics were inherited from their parents who took away their childhood which ultimately led to their adulthood being lost also in the confines of a prison…their father was obviously an horrendous abuser but their mother also was awful…and if they appeared to be sociopathic in their behaviour, it was obviously because learned to bury so much of their emotion inside in trying to make themselves immune and detached to the harm that was being done to them…

Ammi
22-09-2024, 07:04 PM
…I finished watching the series yesterday evening….I do need to read up some information about it and see how factual it all was….such a complex case, though…

bots
22-09-2024, 07:12 PM
i've just started it :worry:

Niamh.
23-09-2024, 03:31 PM
…I finished watching the series yesterday evening….I do need to read up some information about it and see how factual it all was….such a complex case, though…

Oct 7th there's a documentary coming to Netflix about the case so that should be better

LaLaLand
23-09-2024, 04:25 PM
There’s a documentary about the case featuring the brothers (via phone from prison) coming to Netflix in October.

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Ammi
23-09-2024, 05:42 PM
Oct 7th there's a documentary coming to Netflix about the case so that should be better

There’s a documentary about the case featuring the brothers (via phone from prison) coming to Netflix in October.

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…thank you both, I’ll for sure watch the documentary next month…

bots
24-09-2024, 10:34 AM
i was just bewildered by this series. I can't think of another way of describing it :laugh:

Niamh.
24-09-2024, 10:36 AM
i was just bewildered by this series. I can't think of another way of describing it :laugh:

Are you going to watch the documentary that's coming out soon?

bots
24-09-2024, 10:40 AM
Are you going to watch the documentary that's coming out soon?

yep

Niamh.
24-09-2024, 10:44 AM
yep

Good, it will be interesting to see the two side by side

Niamh.
24-09-2024, 11:35 AM
Oh just one other piece of information that wasn't in the show (and unfortunately wasn't found until after the verdicts) was

A letter Erik wrote nine months before the killings to his cousin telling him about the abuse

bots
24-09-2024, 12:03 PM
This event happened in the 80's at which point abuse really wasn't a thing that was talked about, so comparing it with todays environment just doesn't work. Many juries wouldn't believe it was an actual credible possibility

The way the show was dramatised, really didn't work for me. It's like latter series of the crown, where we are all well aware that apart from the key historical facts, the rest was just fiction. Look at the jury discussion during sentencing. That was just complete nonsense. They were going back and questioning whether they were innocent or guilty, where the same jury had just unanimously declared them guilty. The object of sentencing is to determine the death or imprisonment, not to relitigate the case

Niamh.
24-09-2024, 12:11 PM
This event happened in the 80's at which point abuse really wasn't a thing that was talked about, so comparing it with todays environment just doesn't work. Many juries wouldn't believe it was an actual credible possibility

The way the show was dramatised, really didn't work for me. It's like latter series of the crown, where we are all well aware that apart from the key historical facts, the rest was just fiction. Look at the jury discussion during sentencing. That was just complete nonsense. They were going back and questioning whether they were innocent or guilty, where the same jury had just unanimously declared them guilty. The object of sentencing is to determine the death or imprisonment, not to relitigate the case



I stopped watching the Crown, only watched a couple of episodes of the last season

I agree with you though I really didn't like how they dramatised this case. I found it really distasteful how the brothers who were very very likely to have been victims of childhood sexual abuse were really objectified and sexualised in this show

Niamh.
26-09-2024, 11:55 AM
https://i.redd.it/z8z005ic65rd1.jpeg

Ammi
26-09-2024, 03:47 PM
This event happened in the 80's at which point abuse really wasn't a thing that was talked about, so comparing it with todays environment just doesn't work. Many juries wouldn't believe it was an actual credible possibility

The way the show was dramatised, really didn't work for me. It's like latter series of the crown, where we are all well aware that apart from the key historical facts, the rest was just fiction. Look at the jury discussion during sentencing. That was just complete nonsense. They were going back and questioning whether they were innocent or guilty, where the same jury had just unanimously declared them guilty. The object of sentencing is to determine the death or imprisonment, not to relitigate the case



…also, though…that it was discussed that the reason the male jurors didn’t give a not guilty was not because of the case or any evidence put forward…?…it was because they didn’t take to the female defence attorney/…one of them…

Glenn.
26-09-2024, 03:49 PM
I stopped watching the Crown, only watched a couple of episodes of the last season

I agree with you though I really didn't like how they dramatised this case. I found it really distasteful how the brothers who were very very likely to have been victims of childhood sexual abuse were really objectified and sexualised in this show

The gays have been proper thirsting on it for the last few days.

Ammi
26-09-2024, 03:49 PM
…I’ve been chatting to someone a bit about it…not in depth but they know more about the case/story than I do and they don’t feel that it was an accurate portrayal…I’m more looking forward to watching the documentary now…

Ammi
26-09-2024, 03:51 PM
The gays have been proper thirsting on it for the last few days.

…do you think that it was a good portrayal, Glenn…?…or do you think it was quite ‘Ryan Murphy fantasised…?…‘

Glenn.
26-09-2024, 03:54 PM
…do you think that it was a good portrayal, Glenn…?…or do you think it was quite ‘Ryan Murphy fantasised…?…‘

Just more of the same from Ryan Murphy isn’t it really. I mean it’s like he tried to cover all bases and make you feel for the mum and dad and the brothers but it was a mess.

Niamh.
26-09-2024, 03:54 PM
The gays have been proper thirsting on it for the last few days.

Did you watch it? It's just in pretty bad taste considering what they went through as children really. I know that seems to be Ryan Murphys schtick to sexualise everything but it's a bit much when your talking about child abuse victims

…I’ve been chatting to someone a bit about it…not in depth but they know more about the case/story than I do and they don’t feel that it was an accurate portrayal…I’m more looking forward to watching the documentary now…

Yeah same here Ammi. This dramatisation is supposed to be decent too

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6110318/

Ammi
26-09-2024, 04:05 PM
Just more of the same from Ryan Murphy isn’t it really. I mean it’s like he tried to cover all bases and make you feel for the mum and dad and the brothers but it was a mess.

Did you watch it? It's just in pretty bad taste considering what they went through as children really. I know that seems to be Ryan Murphys schtick to sexualise everything but it's a bit much when your talking about child abuse victims



Yeah same here Ammi. This dramatisation is supposed to be decent too

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6110318/

…also the inference seemed to be that the relationship with the brothers was possibly incestuous…?…which seems to be a fabrication in terms of anything factual written…that was only ever a speculation thing based on a one time incident of Lyle taking Erik into the woods with a toothbrush and enacting something his father had done to him in trying to ‘normalise’ it as something that was done within a family…that abuse act with Erik is something he always admitted and only happened one time…he apparently never abused him again…

Ammi
26-09-2024, 04:07 PM
…also…

…also the inference that ‘gay males were drawn to Erik’…that he was gay and in being gay, he enjoyedthe horrific abuse by his father…both he and Lyle were handsome, wealthy boys…lots of people were drawn to them both male and female….

Niamh.
26-09-2024, 04:12 PM
…also the inference seemed to be that the relationship with the brothers was possibly incestuous…?…which seems to be a fabrication in terms of anything factual written…that was only ever a speculation thing based on a one time incident of Lyle taking Erik into the woods with a toothbrush and enacting something his father had done to him in trying to ‘normalise’ it as something that was done within a family…that abuse act with Erik is something he always admitted and only happened one time…he apparently never abused him again…

Yeah, infact it was noted that they weren't tactile with eachother at all in reality which was 100% the opposite to how they were portrayed on the show

…also…

…also the inference that ‘gay males were drawn to Erik’…that he was gay and in being gay, he enjoyedthe horrific abuse by his father…both he and Lyle were handsome, wealthy boys…lots of people were drawn to them both male and female….

Yeah, obviously there would be nothing at all wrong with Erik being gay but he's stated numerous times that he isn't and the reasoning behind the inference comes from a really disgusting place as you pointed out

Ammi
26-09-2024, 04:20 PM
Yeah, infact it was noted that they weren't tactile with eachother at all in reality which was 100% the opposite to how they were portrayed on the show



Yeah, obviously there would be nothing at all wrong with Erik being gay but he's stated numerous times that he isn't and the reasoning behind the inference comes from a really disgusting place as you pointed out

…yeah, exactly…(…of that time…)…there was a stigma attached to homosexuality and it was the time of AIDS…/…hence his mom carrying out penis checks uggggghhhhhh…because his father would not tolerate AIDS being ‘brought into this house…’….the speculation of Erik being gay was surely just used as a way of saying, what was happening was something that he enjoyed…it was ‘weaponised’ by the series as being something negative…and that was also part of the storyline with his friendship in prison…which apparently he was in solitary and not mixing with others…?…when he married in prison and married a female, again it was inferred that, that relationship would suit him because it wasn’t sexual ….but he’s not portrayed as having any sexual attractions so far as I know…?..probably because of the abuse…

Niamh.
26-09-2024, 04:23 PM
…yeah, exactly…(…of that time…)…there was a stigma attached to homosexuality and it was the time of AIDS…/…hence his mom carrying out penis checks uggggghhhhhh…because his father would not tolerate AIDS being ‘brought into this house…’….the speculation of Erik being gay was surely just used as a way of saying, what was happening was something that he enjoyed…it was ‘weaponised’ by the series as being something negative…and that was also part of the storyline with his friendship in prison…which apparently he was in solitary and not mixing with others…?…when he married in prison and married a female, again it was inferred that, that relationship would suit him because it wasn’t sexual ….but he’s not portrayed as having any sexual attractions so far as I know…?..probably because of the abuse…

I listened to a podcast about the case before watching the show and on that they said that Lyle & Eric were in a separate wing to general population while they waited trial because the case was so high profile and there were fears for their safety

Ammi
26-09-2024, 04:30 PM
I listened to a podcast about the case before watching the show and on that they said that Lyle & Eric were in a separate wing to general population while they waited trial because the case was so high profile and there were fears for their safety

…also, apparently when Erik was 13yrs old, he confided in his cousin and asked him if what was happening with his father was a ‘normal father/son relationship’ and his cousin testified that at the first trial but I can’t recall seeing that…


…both of the brothers were ‘crying out’ to those people in their extended family circle from a very young age…all of those cries seemed to have been ignored…

Ammi
26-09-2024, 04:35 PM
…the abuse wasn’t allowed to be brought into the second trial at all, I don’t think…it had even become a ridiculed subject and called ‘The abuse excuse’…

Niamh.
26-09-2024, 06:57 PM
…the abuse wasn’t allowed to be brought into the second trial at all, I don’t think…it had even become a ridiculed subject and called ‘The abuse excuse’…

and apparently they were mocked relentlessly on shows like Saturday Night Live. Imagine it so disgusting

Ammi
27-09-2024, 06:36 AM
…I’m just looking forward to watching the documentary now, I feels as though the series has possibly been such a misrepresentation and fabrication to sensationalise…

Niamh.
09-10-2024, 01:06 PM
…I’m just looking forward to watching the documentary now, I feels as though the series has possibly been such a misrepresentation and fabrication to sensationalise…

Watched it last night. It was much better.


I don't know how anyone could watch Lyle and Eriks testimony's and think they were making that stuff up. Watching how they were being mocked on talk shows etc was horrific as well. Imagine taking the piss out of child sex abuse victims, absolutely sickening.

The original prosecutor sounds so bitter as well. The end was so sad, poor Erik blaming himself for everything :(

There's a very slim chance they could get a new trial/sentence. Decision of Habeas corpus petition for them is due in November I think :fc:

Niamh.
09-10-2024, 01:12 PM
Oh wow just saw this video from that Prosecutor, she is vile

https://www.tiktok.com/@galendiaries/video/7071941414644354309?_r=1&_t=8qOYYkiJSSA

Niamh.
09-10-2024, 03:44 PM
And from a member of the boy band Menudo

https://www.tiktok.com/@truth.about.menendez/video/7239075671023160602?lang=en

Niamh.
17-10-2024, 11:09 AM
This looks promising :

https://i.imgur.com/xcNlKbN.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/XUrDy0I.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/K8X4aLX.jpeg

Ammi
17-10-2024, 11:15 AM
…oh I so need to catch up with this, I just haven’t had the time atm…I clicked on the spoiler and then clicked straight back off without reading because I’ll catch up first with the documentary…

Niamh.
17-10-2024, 11:18 AM
…oh I so need to catch up with this, I just haven’t had the time atm…I clicked on the spoiler and then clicked straight back off without reading because I’ll catch up first with the documentary…

:love:

Niamh.
24-10-2024, 09:35 PM
great news, the DA that has reviewed the case and has recommended that the brothers be resentenced and could be released. It will be put before a judge tomorrow :fc;

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/menendez-brothers-resentencing-supported-l-a-district-attorney-george-gascon-1236044594/

LaLaLand
25-10-2024, 04:21 AM
great news, the DA that has reviewed the case and has recommended that the brothers be resentenced and could be released. It will be put before a judge tomorrow :fc;

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/menendez-brothers-resentencing-supported-l-a-district-attorney-george-gascon-1236044594/



I literally finished the last episode of the show, picked up my phone, opened Twitter and this was the first thing I saw. Crazy timing!

Niamh.
25-10-2024, 06:55 AM
I literally finished the last episode of the show, picked up my phone, opened Twitter and this was the first thing I saw. Crazy timing!I really hope it happens

Ammi
25-10-2024, 07:03 AM
…I so need to watch this documentary and the update of their story…I will get around to it soon…

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
05-01-2025, 01:56 PM
Still waiting for these babies to be freed! I'm also glad I watched the documentary to get more accuracy. The raw footage of their testimonies in court is beyond heartbreaking. I grew up believing the media's portrayal of them that they were rich hungry kids that killed for money.

Niamh.
06-01-2025, 01:51 PM
Still waiting for these babies to be freed! I'm also glad I watched the documentary to get more accuracy. The raw footage of their testimonies in court is beyond heartbreaking. I grew up believing the media's portrayal of them that they were rich hungry kids that killed for money.

There's a re-sentencing hearing set for Jan 30th so fingers crossed

Niamh.
11-02-2025, 03:24 PM
There's a re-sentencing hearing set for Jan 30th so fingers crossed

Was postponed because of the Wildfires in LA, now due for the resentencing March 20th/21st

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/menendez-brothers-to-appear-in-person-for-resentencing-hearing-in-van-nuys/3629392/