Did you agree with Thomas and Daze playing ‘the game’?

[Benjamin]

Did you agree with them playing the game?

[Niamh.]

If course, it is a game after all

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

They understood the assignment! This isn't friend island

[MTVN]

No I think both were very mean and cynical

Completely unnecessary for Thomas as well as he'd have been better off banking the goodwill from not destroying the photos. He'd have been safe in a vote anyway but also had another chance to leave storage and might have been chosen by one of the others anyway

Daze was also quite manipulative

Neither is good gameplay imo, yes you survive the first vote but you do more damage in the long term

[Jordan.]

I expected Thomas to be a people pleaser. I gained some respect for him for going through with it.

[Niamh.]

I don't know Matt, I liked Daze more after the task :hee:

[Zizu]

Thomas - acceptable behaviour
Daze - unacceptable behaviour


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[MTVN]

I don't know Matt, I liked Daze more after the task :hee:

:o

[GlitterUK]

I think Daze was being more tactical than Tom was.

[Mystic Mock]

Both were playing the game.

But personally I'm more bothered by Thomas shredding people's personal photos just to become a Housemate.

[Mystic Mock]

Thomas - acceptable behaviour
Daze - unacceptable behaviour


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How is shredding other Housemates photos more acceptable behaviour?:laugh:

[Jordan.]

How is shredding other Housemates photos more acceptable behaviour?:laugh:

The difference for me was he didn't use manipulation to win, he just went through with the task BB had given and was even supporting Rosie during her dares too.

[GlitterUK]

I think Tom also apologised as he went through with it Daze showed zero remorse.

[Mystic Mock]

The difference for me was he didn't use manipulation to win, he just went through with the task BB had given and was even supporting Rosie during her dares too.

He showed that he was incredibly desperate imo.

From my perspective I could never shred other people's things just to stay on Big Brother.

[Zizu]

He showed that he was incredibly desperate imo.

From my perspective I could never shred other people's things just to stay on Big Brother.


I think he was determined rather than desperate

Daze showed signs of desperation in my view


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[Mystic Mock]

I think he was determined rather than desperate

Daze showed signs of desperation in my view


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Daze was manipulative, which is apart of BB and always has been, and always will be.

Where as Thomas did an action that society at large (who aren't BB fans at all) would look on really poorly that he would shred people's photos just to avoid facing a public vote on a Reality TV Show.

Only on BB would Thomas's actions be seen as less morally objectionable.

[Garfie]

Thomas - acceptable behaviour
Daze - unacceptable behaviour


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Agree

[Garfie]

The difference for me was he didn't use manipulation to win, he just went through with the task BB had given and was even supporting Rosie during her dares too.

Summed it up perfectly, Jordan.

[Garfie]

Daze was manipulative, which is apart of BB and always has been, and always will be.

Where as Thomas did an action that society at large (who aren't BB fans at all) would look on really poorly that he would shred people's photos just to avoid facing a public vote on a Reality TV Show.

Only on BB would Thomas's actions be seen as less morally objectionable.

This is the BB house though, and all those who take part are aware when they sign up that they will have to tolerate certain things they wouldn’t in real life. These days photos are backed up on devices so they are not items that are irreplaceable which are being destroyed. And how do we even know that they only have one photo with them?

In all honestly, in either real life or in the BB house, I would find it more morally reprehensible to be manipulated by others than for someone to destroy something that is so easily replaced. :shrug:

[Jordan.]

I highly doubt the physical photos were even brought in by the housemates. They were likely asked to send them digitally to the production team who printed them themselves (for the purpose of being able to destroy them :fan:)

[Zizu]

I highly doubt the physical photos were even brought in by the housemates. They were likely asked to send them digitally to the production team who printed them themselves (for the purpose of being able to destroy them :fan:)


Yeah or they made copies


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[Mystic Mock]

This is the BB house though, and all those who take part are aware when they sign up that they will have to tolerate certain things they wouldn’t in real life. These days photos are backed up on devices so they are not items that are irreplaceable which are being destroyed. And how do we even know that they only have one photo with them?

In all honestly, in either real life or in the BB house, I would find it more morally reprehensible to be manipulated by others than for someone to destroy something that is so easily replaced. :shrug:

Fair enough.

I personally would not like anyone destroying any of my stuff just to stay in a game, that to me shows that Thomas will be desperate enough to do almost anything to stay in the house.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate that he is competitive, but there should be limits imo.

[Mystic Mock]

I highly doubt the physical photos were even brought in by the housemates. They were likely asked to send them digitally to the production team who printed them themselves (for the purpose of being able to destroy them :fan:)

You're probably right tbh.

[Garfie]

I highly doubt the physical photos were even brought in by the housemates. They were likely asked to send them digitally to the production team who printed them themselves (for the purpose of being able to destroy them :fan:)

Good point. I hadn’t thought of that, but I think you’re probably right.

[Zizu]

Fair enough.

I personally would not like anyone destroying any of my stuff just to stay in a game, that to me shows that Thomas will be desperate enough to do almost anything to stay in the house.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate that he is competitive, but there should be limits imo.


I can fully appreciate your take on things


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[Garfie]

Fair enough.

I personally would not like anyone destroying any of my stuff just to stay in a game, that to me shows that Thomas will be desperate enough to do almost anything to stay in the house.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate that he is competitive, but there should be limits imo.

I don’t perceive Thomas in the same way, as I really don’t think he was doing any real harm - he was just playing a game. To me he seems like a nice guy.

I would agree with you if someone destroyed something expensive or irreplaceable, but to me this didn’t feel such a big deal or so negative.

Life and people’s behaviour are all a matter of perception, though - we are all different because we we will have encountered different people and had different experiences, so therefore we won’t agree with everyone about everything. That’s okay, however, as it is what makes discussions interesting.

[Mystic Mock]

I can fully appreciate your take on things


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Thanks Zizu.:blush:

[Mystic Mock]

I don’t perceive Thomas in the same way, as I really don’t think he was doing any real harm - he was just playing a game. To me he seems like a nice guy.

I would agree with you if someone destroyed something expensive or irreplaceable, but to me this didn’t feel such a big deal or so negative.

Life and people’s behaviour are all a matter of perception, though - we are all different because we we will have encountered different people and had different experiences, so therefore we won’t agree with everyone about everything. That’s okay, however, as it is what makes discussions interesting.

Tbh I can understand your POV, and Thomas isn't my worst in there anyway, I just personally didn't like his behaviour in that particular moment.

And I 100% agree with you that the more interesting discussions are normally when we all bring different perspectives to the table.

[Garfie]

Tbh I can understand your POV, and Thomas isn't my worst in there anyway, I just personally didn't like his behaviour in that particular moment.

And I 100% agree with you that the more interesting discussions are normally when we all bring different perspectives to the table.

I can understand your POV too, and different perspectives give us the opportunity to reconsider and our own perceptions. It’s how we learn and grow in our thinking. :thumbs:

[Mystic Mock]

I can understand your POV too, and different perspectives give us the opportunity to reconsider and our own perceptions. It’s how we learn and grow in our thinking. :thumbs:

Exactly.

It's why I don't like cancel culture so much, because it can bar these kinds of discussions that we're both having now.

Obviously neither of us I don't believe have said anything extreme in this thread, but cancel culture can be a bitch.

[bots]

Ultimately it changes the balance of popularity. It could be people not liking their actions or increasing the popularity of victims. Either way, it's a net loss

[Ammi]

I highly doubt the physical photos were even brought in by the housemates. They were likely asked to send them digitally to the production team who printed them themselves (for the purpose of being able to destroy them :fan:)

…yeah either that or it’s made known to the housemates that personal photographs ‘could be used in a task and destroyed for that purpose’…either way though, for any housemate who is part of that ‘destroying’ decision…(…and there is no right or wrong in it, obviously…)…also has to accept their own decision in that it’s a game of eviction essentially and last person standing, if we want to strip it down…and the public haven’t yet got to know any of the housemates that well yet, it’s early days…so that ‘game player’ has to accept that their choice also has a huge risk attached to it that it could impact voting choices coming up shortly….its not about agreeing with them for me, it’s about whether/how etc the playing will/could impact public voting decisions …more than anything, the most important part of the game is that they keep their place in the house as long as they can…:laugh:…

[GoldHeart]

It's a game so yeah :shrug:

If anything it's BB's fault for pushing the weird & uncomfortable boundaries. Shredding photos is mean ... hopefully they still have the negatives to redevelop them.

And I don't know why Nathan is piping up about Daze's tactics , he's probably got it in for her after their debate on the monarchy. Daze kept her promise to Lily ,so why is Nathan making a fuss about Daze not being ' genuine ' all of a sudden... Daze & Lily seem to be friends anyway , just because she isn't in love with the royal family like him
:idc: .