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Ithinkiloveyoutoo
11-10-2024, 08:43 PM
Why always so serious trying to prove a point? Chill. She's a bit exhausting :conf:
I don't see the admiration everyone on here has for her, I have to admit.
Bit of an ice queen to my mind.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
11-10-2024, 08:50 PM
I don't see the admiration everyone on here has for her, I have to admit.
Bit of an ice queen to my mind.
Exactly. I am not impressed. Ice queen is the perfect name
jones89
11-10-2024, 08:53 PM
She’s actually explained quite a few times already why she is the way she is. Why so confused? :conf:
I don't think it was good she revealed she worked in psych so early on, because now she's pigeon-holed into the box of being the "professional friend" while she is in... it's going to make it difficult for the public to warm to her since now every comment made seen as being made under an umbrella. It would've been more entertaining to let it go on a bit longer without the reveal...
Barry.
11-10-2024, 09:06 PM
She said she was on the spectrum
Barry.
11-10-2024, 09:06 PM
We don’t always get the joke
She said she was on the spectrum
That doesn't excuse her bad mouthing emma at the start of the show in thw diary room, to then bare face lie to emma in the bedroom as to her reasons for avoiding her.
Crimson Dynamo
11-10-2024, 09:21 PM
Sly
But it does excuse her asking a very emotional emma an awkward question in the middle of her break down.
fredmeneedle
11-10-2024, 09:25 PM
In her place I would have said I was a barmaid or summat.... something less threatening to the others to stop them feeling they were being constantly evaluated/assessed (which I think they do now)
GoldGlitter
11-10-2024, 09:27 PM
As introvert I would struggle in that situation as well. I really liked her in tonight's episode. It's good that she's talking to Nathan more.
rusticgal
11-10-2024, 09:28 PM
Hmmm…I do like her. She is very level headed however I can see her being a bit sly. Need to keep an eye out…
Crimson Dynamo
11-10-2024, 09:30 PM
How many bloody labels is she going to hide behind?
Starscream
11-10-2024, 09:31 PM
I've seen her laughing and joking with LIly many times, not sure what you're watching.
Crimson Dynamo
11-10-2024, 09:33 PM
There will be a feud with Emma
You watch
In her place I would have said I was a barmaid or summat.... something less threatening to the others to stop them feeling they were being constantly evaluated/assessed (which I think they do now)
I'd never buy her as a barmaid lol. :laugh: Would be the most unapproachable barmaid ever.
Bar patron: Excuse me, miss?
Ali:
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There will be a feud with Emma
You watch
They made friends with each other last night in the late show .. it was nice to see
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Crimson Dynamo
11-10-2024, 09:52 PM
They made friends with each other last night in the late show .. it was nice to see
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Lol
They most certainly did not.
fredmeneedle
11-10-2024, 09:53 PM
I'd never buy her as a barmaid lol. :laugh: Would be the most unapproachable barmaid ever.
How about a bouncer at a brothel? That would have stimulated some interest!! [grin]
That doesn't excuse her bad mouthing emma at the start of the show in thw diary room, to then bare face lie to emma in the bedroom as to her reasons for avoiding her.
It wasn’t a lie .. they both said that they weren’t sure about each other initially- in fact they both thought the other didn’t like them
A simple misunderstanding / misjudgment on both sides.
Ali being on the spectrum means she will be under more pressure than any of the others for many, many reasons
We experience life differently to ‘normal’ folk ..
Ali was very ill at ease watching the drag show for example- i was cringing just watching on telly
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As introvert I would struggle in that situation as well. I really liked her in tonight's episode. It's good that she's talking to Nathan more.
Yes .. both intelligent , articulate and interesting people !
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Mystic Mock
11-10-2024, 11:43 PM
Why always so serious trying to prove a point? Chill. She's a bit exhausting :conf:
She's definitely giving off the negative stereotype of a feminist energy at the moment in terms of being able to have a laugh it seems.:laugh:
I do still like her for now, but I am on guard for if she is doing what I believe that she might be doing, which is target all of the men in a manbashing strategy.
fredmeneedle
11-10-2024, 11:46 PM
Nooooo.... I dunno where you are getting that vibe from but I didn't get that from her at all....
Mystic Mock
11-10-2024, 11:49 PM
Nooooo.... I dunno where you are getting that vibe from but I didn't get that from her at all....
Is this to my post or the OP?
fredmeneedle
11-10-2024, 11:53 PM
Is this to my post or the OP?
It was back at your comments mystic
Mystic Mock
11-10-2024, 11:57 PM
It was back at your comments mystic
It's just the vibe that I'm getting with the way that the three Housemates that she has said negative stuff about so far have been Marcello, Khalid, and Nathan (although I do get that she does appear to be changing her mind on him.)
It's just the vibe that I'm getting with the way that the three Housemates that she has said negative stuff about so far have been Marcello, Khalid, and Nathan (although I do get that she does appear to be changing her mind on him.)
Well she is correct to have negative vibes about Marcello .. he is a sleazeball
As regards Nathan …
Ali and Nathan agreed to be in an alliance with Lily a few hours ago but Lily may have forgotten by now lol
She may well warm to Khalid as that fall out with gangstagirl was just a misunderstanding
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Well she is correct to have negative vibes about Marcello .. he is a sleazeball
As regards Nathan …
Ali and Nathan agreed to be in an alliance with Lily a few hours ago but Lily may have forgotten by now lol
She may well warm to Khalid as that fall out with gangstagirl was just a misunderstanding
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How bizarre
Crazy timing ..
They are having a lovely one2one chat as we speak !https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241012/072bb64ce6ab26b51a09268446b7f67e.jpg
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Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 12:16 AM
Well she is correct to have negative vibes about Marcello .. he is a sleazeball
As regards Nathan …
Ali and Nathan agreed to be in an alliance with Lily a few hours ago but Lily may have forgotten by now lol
She may well warm to Khalid as that fall out with gangstagirl was just a misunderstanding
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I'm not saying that Ali's opinions on all three are wrong tbf.
I'm just noting the three people that Ali has expressed issues with.
GlitterUK
12-10-2024, 01:30 AM
I have liked Ali so far but she always seems to be in the right place at the right time when something is going on which is odd. Hanah in the storeroom...in walks Ali.....Emma crying in the bedroom...in walks Ali. She must have a sixth sense.
GoldGlitter
12-10-2024, 03:35 AM
Ali was having a laugh with Nathan and Lily in the bedroom. Marcello wasn't being funny. Saying he was kissing her while in the smoking room was a disgusting thing to say. It's quite alarming that he's around children as youth mentor.
Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 03:40 AM
Ali was having a laugh with Nathan and Lily in the bedroom. Marcello wasn't being funny. Saying he was kissing her while in the smoking room was a disgusting thing to say. It's quite alarming that he's around children as youth mentor.
I really don't like Marcello.
But tbf we have no proof that he would behave like this when he works with kids.
Liam-
12-10-2024, 03:47 AM
She's definitely giving off the negative stereotype of a feminist energy at the moment in terms of being able to have a laugh it seems.:laugh:
I do still like her for now, but I am on guard for if she is doing what I believe that she might be doing, which is target all of the men in a manbashing strategy.
Someone joking that you’ve just kissed someone that’s not your partner, in a part of the house known for not being shown on tv isn’t a laugh to some people, you very clearly have a negative opinion of women in general on these tv shows though
Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 03:55 AM
Someone joking that you’ve just kissed someone that’s not your partner, in a part of the house known for not being shown on tv isn’t a laugh to some people, you very clearly have a negative opinion of women in general on these tv shows though
I'm not talking specifically about Marcello individually, because I agree that he is a Creep.
I'm just noticing that in general that Ali is quite a serious individual.
And how do I have a negative opinion on women on Reality TV in general?:joker:
1. I wanted Dean to go last night.
2. Marcello is my worst Housemate.
3. On BBUSA I was wanting Angela, Makensy, and Leah to all do well, and I do/did respect Chelsie and T'kor as gameplayers, even if I admittedly didn't like either of them very much.
4. I do actually like Ali, pointing something out about her doesn't mean that I dislike her.
5. I am underdog wanting Sam to do well on Strictly, plus rooting for Montell to win as it currently stands.
Which btw I shouldn't even have to explain myself like this to you, you've jumped the gun off of one post.:laugh:
Mrluvaluva
12-10-2024, 05:19 AM
In her place I would have said I was a barmaid or summat.... something less threatening to the others to stop them feeling they were being constantly evaluated/assessed (which I think they do now)
Jesus. So she can't be real? Just to appease others or get ahead of the game? No. Just no.
Mrluvaluva
12-10-2024, 06:18 AM
Ali was having a laugh with Nathan and Lily in the bedroom. Marcello wasn't being funny. Saying he was kissing her while in the smoking room was a disgusting thing to say. It's quite alarming that he's around children as youth mentor.
That in itself is quite a disgusting comment. I know he's a sleazeball but don't project him as a paedophile or something. Wow!
I have liked Ali so far but she always seems to be in the right place at the right time when something is going on which is odd. Hanah in the storeroom...in walks Ali.....Emma crying in the bedroom...in walks Ali. She must have a sixth sense.
I’d say it’s more a part of having ADHD .. your senses are heightened ..
I could always sense if something was bothering one of my work colleagues or they upset … I notice the tiniest changes in people or the surroundings ( when nobody else noticed probably due to the pressurised workplace )
Its actually exhausting
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ThomasC
12-10-2024, 06:40 AM
She said she was on the spectrum
No she said she has ADHD. I would have suspected she was more Autistic than ADHD, but both are closely linked and neurological conditions
Ali was having a laugh with Nathan and Lily in the bedroom. Marcello wasn't being funny. Saying he was kissing her while in the smoking room was a disgusting thing to say. It's quite alarming that he's around children as youth mentor.
Jesus .. he’s not suitable to be working with young women !
He’s already shown many times that he behaves inappropriately with and around young women and that’s with a hundred cameras around
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No she said she has ADHD. I would have suspected she was more Autistic than ADHD, but both are closely linked and neurological conditions
Very much so
I have dyslexia/ aspergers / adhd
It’s exhausting though I wouldn’t change a thing even if I could .
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I'm not liking her one bit. I found her very snobby, "I've never hung around with a tory" or something like that..saying it as though shes far superior to them, at her age as well, it just shows ignorance, intolerance, and immaturity. Cause here she is now, making alliances with one to gain the upper hand in a game for cash. At least stick to your guns if you are going to be so insular.
GoldGlitter
12-10-2024, 06:44 AM
That in itself is quite a disgusting comment. I know he's a sleazeball but don't project him as a paedophile or something. Wow!
That's not what my comment was at all. Kids will be learning his negative views on woman. These boys who then go into highschool. The ones who cant conform to the hypermasculinity will be teased and harassed for looking too feminine or gay. They will then use violence to prove their masculinity.
ThomasC
12-10-2024, 06:49 AM
Very much so
I have dyslexia/ aspergers / adhd
It’s exhausting though I wouldn’t change a thing even if I could .
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Yeah I bet it is.
ThomasC
12-10-2024, 06:51 AM
I'm not liking her one bit. I found her very snobby, "I've never hung around with a tory" or something like that..saying it as though shes far superior to them, at her age as well, it just shows ignorance, intolerance, and immaturity. Cause here she is now, making alliances with one to gain the upper hand in a game for cash. At least stick to your guns if you are going to be so insular.
You have read into that way too much. It's not that deep. She happens to just not have 'hung' around a Tory before. I would suspect most haven't and probably wouldn't want to.
I don't think she's making alliances to gain upper. What I have noticed so far is that if she has said something about someone behind their back she later will discuss it with them
That in itself is quite a disgusting comment. I know he's a sleazeball but don't project him as a paedophile or something. Wow!
I wouldn’t go that far but his behaviour around young women is a tad worrying and that’s with about a hundred cameras around them !
Marcello last night was chatting with Hanah and Rosie / all drinking
He then said something about being tiddly …
“ you’re gonna have to take me to my bed .. then you can take your clothes off”
He’s a slimeball of the highest order
If I was a young female I’d stay well away from him ( after the show has finished ) !!
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Yeah I bet it is.
I don’t sleep well at all either so that’s a double whammy
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GoldGlitter
12-10-2024, 07:01 AM
I wouldn’t go that far but his behaviour around young women is a tad worrying and that’s with about a hundred cameras around them !
Marcello last night was chatting with Hanah and Rosie / all drinking
He then said something about being tiddly …
“ you’re gonna have to take me to my bed .. then you can take your clothes off”
He’s a slimeball of the highest order
If I was a young female I’d stay well away from him ( after the show has finished ) !!
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What time do they shut off the livestream.
You have read into that way too much. It's not that deep. She happens to just not have 'hung' around a Tory before. I would suspect most haven't and probably wouldn't want to.
I don't think she's making alliances to gain upper. What I have noticed so far is that if she has said something about someone behind their back she later will discuss it with them
No she clearly stated she avoids them..
Can you give me an example of that please, cause she didnt discuss her suspicions of emma with emma, that she stated to bb in the diary room at the begining of last nights show. Shes stuck her nose into hannah and Khalid s business, and bad mouthed Khalid to anyone who will listen, even after hannah saying things were ok.
ThomasC
12-10-2024, 07:09 AM
No she clearly stated she avoids them..
Can you give me an example of that please, cause she didnt discuss her suspicions of emma with emma, that she stated to bb in the diary room at the begining of last nights show. Shes stuck her nose into hannah and Khalid s business, and bad mouthed Khalid to anyone who will listen, even after hannah saying things were ok.
She said to Emma that she thought she didn't like her and visa versa.
Ali and Khaled were seen talking last night on late and live
She said to Emma that she thought she didn't like her and visa versa.
Ali and Khaled were seen talking last night on late and live
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Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 07:11 AM
No she clearly stated she avoids them..
Can you give me an example of that please, cause she didnt discuss her suspicions of emma with emma, that she stated to bb in the diary room at the begining of last nights show. Shes stuck her nose into hannah and Khalid s business, and bad mouthed Khalid to anyone who will listen, even after hannah saying things were ok.
Tbf to Ali, every Housemate that's ever been on Big Brother has probably at some point or another said something about another Housemate behind their back.
As long as Ali doesn't say anything really bad about Emma then I don't see the issue?:shrug:
GoldGlitter
12-10-2024, 07:14 AM
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I tried to watch livestream last night and got thanks for watching message on screen.
Tbf to Ali, every Housemate that's ever been on Big Brother has probably at some point or another said something about another Housemate behind their back.
As long as Ali doesn't say anything really bad about Emma then I don't see the issue?:shrug:
Ali and Emma bonded the other night
Last night Emma was gushing about Ali to Nathan .. they both really like Ali
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Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 07:17 AM
Ali and Emma bonded the other night
Last night Emma was gushing about Ali to Nathan .. they both really like Ali
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That's great to hear.
But even if they did have issues with each other, they're not going to deliberately create a bad atmosphere in the house by constantly arguing on each other.
GoldGlitter
12-10-2024, 07:21 AM
Ali and Emma bonded the other night
Last night Emma was gushing about Ali to Nathan .. they both really like Ali
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She's just working her way around the house and targeting the people she thinks are gonna nominate her. She knows that tactic won't work on Khaled so is trying to turn people against him.
She's just working her way around the house and targeting the people she thinks are gonna nominate her. She knows that tactic won't work on Khaled so is trying to turn people against him.
That is perfectly feasible !!
It is a gameshow and she is intelligent
Then again given her occupation, qualifications, personality .. maybe she’s just simply intrigued with them
She has said how she loves meeting new people
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Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 07:32 AM
That is perfectly feasible !!
It is a gameshow and she is intelligent
Then again given her occupation, qualifications, personality .. maybe she’s just simply intrigued with them
She has said how she loves meeting new people
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everybody says that
and isn't her job the total opposite?
ThomasC
12-10-2024, 07:37 AM
everybody says that
and isn't her job the total opposite?
No, she's a forensic psychologist.
Tbf to Ali, every Housemate that's ever been on Big Brother has probably at some point or another said something about another Housemate behind their back.
As long as Ali doesn't say anything really bad about Emma then I don't see the issue?:shrug:
All I'm saying is her reasons she gave to big brother in the diary room at the start of the show were different to the reasons she gave emma in the bedroom chat.
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 07:46 AM
No, she's a forensic psychologist.
indeed
does that involve meeting lots of new people or lots of analysis in small groups?
Working on a till you get to meet lots of new people
indeed
does that involve meeting lots of new people or lots of analysis in small groups?
Working on a till you get to meet lots of new people
I was going to say post people, but it probably gets a bit samey for them eventually.
ThomasC
12-10-2024, 07:54 AM
indeed
does that involve meeting lots of new people or lots of analysis in small groups?
Working on a till you get to meet lots of new people
Yes it does.
How is her job the total opposite?
I have liked Ali so far but she always seems to be in the right place at the right time when something is going on which is odd. Hanah in the storeroom...in walks Ali.....Emma crying in the bedroom...in walks Ali. She must have a sixth sense.
…to be fair though, one of the most common things said by any housemate when they leave the house is that it’s very difficult/impossible to find any quiet/private corner of the house so I imagine that someone ‘walking in’ as you say, is a regular thing…it’s more which ‘walk ins’ are shown in the highlights and if Ali’s are shown more then it’s more that, really…rather than ‘I see upset people’….:laugh:…
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 07:57 AM
She seems to be all over Lily...
I wonder if a 38 year old male had done the same would people be so tolerant?
Maybe Ali constantly moves from room to room until she sees some drama going down and then settles in for some camera time :laugh:
All I'm saying is her reasons she gave to big brother in the diary room at the start of the show were different to the reasons she gave emma in the bedroom chat.
People change , evolve ..
It’s obvious that opinions will change after observing and getting to know each other
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Someone joking that you’ve just kissed someone that’s not your partner, in a part of the house known for not being shown on tv isn’t a laugh to some people, you very clearly have a negative opinion of women in general on these tv shows though
…yeah, the thing is as well….the smoking area isn’t shown on TV…I mean it actually caught media attention that it was about to be shown again and there is possibly a ‘BB chat with housemates’ about that area not been a ‘filmed part’…so when Marcello even made reference to a kiss, Ali would be worried that the actual events wouldn’t be seen by her partner and that a whole misunderstanding could accurately of hurt that would cause her partner …it’s not really something that wouldn’t be taken seriously when ‘partnership boundaries’ will have been established for a big brother stay…it’s also not something to be thrown out there as any type of ‘jokey’ thing…to even jump from someone trying a vape to the word kiss…
Maybe Ali constantly moves from room to room until she sees some drama going down and then settles in for some camera time :laugh:
Maybe.. that would be the intelligent way of going about things
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Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 08:05 AM
She seems to be all over Lily...
I wonder if a 38 year old male had done the same would people be so tolerant?
Has Ali been flirting with Lily though?
Or am I just letting my own personal repulsion towards Lily cloud how other people are perceiving her?
She knows that tactic won't work on Khaled so is trying to turn people against him.
She’s intelligent enough to know that that won’t work or indeed look good to the viewing public
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She's definitely giving off the negative stereotype of a feminist energy at the moment in terms of being able to have a laugh it seems.:laugh:
I do still like her for now, but I am on guard for if she is doing what I believe that she might be doing, which is target all of the men in a manbashing strategy.
…I guess that we different interpretations of feminism, Mock…I thought we were all feminists in that we support equality for females and males…I mean, there is extremism in many things but feminism/belief in equality of genders in itself doesn’t have an extreme elements to be stereotyped…
Has Ali been flirting with Lily though?
Or am I just letting my own personal repulsion towards Lily cloud how other people are perceiving her?
There has been no flirting between Ali and Lily ..
Ali , Lily and Nathan discussed the possibility of forming an alliance .. so some in here will presumably suggest they will be having a threesome !!
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Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 08:10 AM
…I guess that we different interpretations of feminism, Mock…I thought we were all feminists in that we support equality for females and males…I mean, there is extremism in many things but feminism/belief in equality of genders in itself doesn’t have an extreme elements to be stereotyped…
I'm thinking that Ali might be playing a bit more extreme on the Show than what you're talking about.
I might be wrong tbf (and it still doesn't change me liking her personality) but I believe that she's trying to get as many men targeted as possible.
Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 08:14 AM
There has been no flirting between Ali and Lily ..
Ali , Lily and Nathan discussed the possibility of forming an alliance .. so some in here will presumably suggest they will be having a threesome !!
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So it's not just my imagination then that Ali hasn't been hitting on Lily.
And what a threesome that would be, because I bet that Marcello would be watching from somewhere.😂
Okay, I might want to be careful what I am implying about Marcello going forward.
I'm thinking that Ali might be playing a bit more extreme on the Show than what you're talking about.
I might be wrong tbf (and it still doesn't change me liking her personality) but I believe that she's trying to get as many men targeted as possible.
…hmmmm, an interesting ‘stereotype’….she’s lesbian so she has a leaning to be a ‘man hater’…./…I’m teasing with you with that, Mock…but ‘feminist energy’ is a stereotype because it doesn’t make sense, really…but in thinking a stereotype…?…a stereotype has been drawn on…anyways, we’ll see how Ali’s personality unfolds….I don’t see her atm as someone who likes to bounce about and play jokes etc, that’s just not her vibe…?…but I don’t see her as overly serious either, I think that she offers a blended balance to the dynamics atm…
People change , evolve ..
It’s obvious that opinions will change after observing and getting to know each other
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Not in one day..the pair of them had hardly spoken to each other until the bedroom chat, and that was all down to ali being suspicious of emma, as she said in the diary room, they then had no interaction all day until the bedroom chat. Emma thought Ali didnt like her, which could have been true because she told bb she was suspicious of her. All this when added up says to me that when emma said, "I thought you didnt like me" to ali...ali then lied to emma by saying, "oh, I was exactly the same"
She was suspicious of her.
Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 08:26 AM
…hmmmm, an interesting ‘stereotype’….she’s lesbian so she has a leaning to be a ‘man hater’…./…I’m teasing with you with that, Mock…but ‘feminist energy’ is a stereotype because it doesn’t make sense, really…but in thinking a stereotype…?…a stereotype has been drawn on…anyways, we’ll see how Ali’s personality unfolds….I don’t see her atm as someone who likes to bounce about and play jokes etc, that’s just not her vibe…?…but I don’t see her as overly serious either, I think that she offers a blended balance to the dynamics atm…
Tbh I hadn't thought about the possible Homophobia allegations until you just mentioned it lol.
Tbf if I'm wrong then great, but if I'm right then I'll still like Ali to a point, but I would be disappointed with the strategy.
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 08:27 AM
Not in one day..the pair of them had hardly spoken to each other until the bedroom chat, and that was all down to ali being suspicious of emma, as she said in the diary room, they then had no interaction all day until the bedroom chat. Emma thought Ali didnt like her, which could have been true because she told bb she was suspicious of her. All this when added up says to me that when emma said, "I thought you didnt like me" to ali...ali then lied to emma by saying, "oh, I was exactly the same"
She was suspicious of her.
Ali entered the room saw Emma distraught and ignored it and steamed in with a "what did you think of me?" question with a odd smirk on her face
really odd behavior
and it wont be lost on Emma....
So it's not just my imagination then that Ali hasn't been hitting on Lily.
And what a threesome that would be, because I bet that Marcello would be watching from somewhere.[emoji23]
Okay, I might want to be careful what I am implying about Marcello going forward.
As regards Marcello
His behaviour around females is simply inappropriate .. worrying given his occupation
The women in there are safe enough for obvious reasons
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Ali entered the room saw Emma distraught and ignored it and steamed in with a "what did you think of me?" question with a odd smirk on her face
really odd behavior
and it wont be lost on Emma....
Emma appreciated the ‘intervention’ at the time !!
Last night’s LIVE footage showed Emma singing Ali’s praises to Nathan .
Looks like your musings are way off mark
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Not in one day..the pair of them had hardly spoken to each other until the bedroom chat, and that was all down to ali being suspicious of emma, as she said in the diary room, they then had no interaction all day until the bedroom chat. Emma thought Ali didnt like her, which could have been true because she told bb she was suspicious of her. All this when added up says to me that when emma said, "I thought you didnt like me" to ali...ali then lied to emma by saying, "oh, I was exactly the same"
She was suspicious of her.
Of course ‘in one day’ !!
They have nothing else to do in there apart from talking/ interacting/ getting to know / observing each other
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thesheriff443
12-10-2024, 08:33 AM
…hmmmm, an interesting ‘stereotype’….she’s lesbian so she has a leaning to be a ‘man hater’…./…I’m teasing with you with that, Mock…but ‘feminist energy’ is a stereotype because it doesn’t make sense, really…but in thinking a stereotype…?…a stereotype has been drawn on…anyways, we’ll see how Ali’s personality unfolds….I don’t see her atm as someone who likes to bounce about and play jokes etc, that’s just not her vibe…?…but I don’t see her as overly serious either, I think that she offers a blended balance to the dynamics atm…
I don’t think a lone wolf can survive in bb
So far she has not been tested in a task only guessing who was lying in the cake face off
I find myself questioning why she is actually on the show
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 08:33 AM
Emma appreciated the ‘intervention’ at the time !!
Last night’s LIVE footage showed Emma singing Ali’s praises to Nathan .
Looks like your musings are way off mark
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we shall see
:whistle:
Not in one day..the pair of them had hardly spoken to each other until the bedroom chat, and that was all down to ali being suspicious of emma, as she said in the diary room, they then had no interaction all day until the bedroom chat. Emma thought Ali didnt like her, which could have been true because she told bb she was suspicious of her. All this when added up says to me that when emma said, "I thought you didnt like me" to ali...ali then lied to emma by saying, "oh, I was exactly the same"
She was suspicious of her.
How can you know what Ali was thinking to suggest she was lying .. LOL
Time to take a deep breath and step back a little
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How can you know what Ali was thinking to suggest she was lying .. LOL
Time to take a deep breath and step back a little
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It's what she was saying..not thinking.
So you can stop patronising now.
It's what she was saying..not thinking.
So you can stop patronising now.
You said she was lying .. when you can’t possibly know if she was lying
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vesavius
12-10-2024, 10:48 AM
Why always so serious trying to prove a point? Chill. She's a bit exhausting :conf:
She really is.
Her self superior attitude of judging others from above is also deeply off putting. She clearly thinks that this is all beneath her.
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 10:58 AM
She really is.
Her self superior attitude of judging others from above is also deeply off putting. She clearly thinks that this is all beneath her.
Agreed
Gusto Brunt
12-10-2024, 11:11 AM
As introvert I would struggle in that situation as well. I really liked her in tonight's episode. It's good that she's talking to Nathan more.
I don't think the issue is she has problems with social situations. She's just coming across to me as a bit snooty.
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 11:15 AM
38 and still with a teenagers ring in her nose??
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/07/21/90567327-13934563-image-a-12_1728333970783.jpg
You said she was lying .. when you can’t possibly know if she was lying
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She either lied to bb about the emma reasons, or lied to emma.
thesheriff443
12-10-2024, 12:17 PM
38 and still with a teenagers ring in her nose??
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/07/21/90567327-13934563-image-a-12_1728333970783.jpg
That’s been added after coming out as a lesbian
Cherie
12-10-2024, 12:17 PM
She is far to clinical for me, I think she is one of the biggest gameplayers in there
That’s been added after coming out as a lesbian
It's there to stop her howking away at her nose.
She is far to clinical for me, I think she is one of the biggest gameplayers in there
It is a game though of course..
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Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 01:17 PM
That’s been added after coming out as a lesbian
Yes and perhaps the hair colour too?
caprimint
12-10-2024, 01:25 PM
She does come across serious at times but she's also got a jokey/light-hearted side, but tbf they haven't all really known each other for long and she's probably just a bit sceptical and she's mentioned that she's introverted and has ADHD so maybe she doesn't always react in the most "normal" way that others do
So it's not just my imagination then that Ali hasn't been hitting on Lily.
God help Marcello's soul if he ever wrongs Lily in any way. That would go over very poorly with the public.
I am not particularly protective of her, but I can already see the amassing of the pitchforks.
Lister of Smeg
12-10-2024, 01:50 PM
She takes herself way to seriously.
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 01:55 PM
she's mentioned that she's introverted and has ADHD
Does that type of person really apply to go on Big Brother?
I don't think so..
vesavius
12-10-2024, 02:01 PM
Does that type of person really apply to go on Big Brother?
I don't think so..
Exactly.
The 'introverted' thing is just camouflage. As if the producers cast self-identifying introverted people in the show.
Does that type of person really apply to go on Big Brother?
I don't think so..
Errrrr Jordan ??
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caprimint
12-10-2024, 02:51 PM
Does that type of person really apply to go on Big Brother?
I don't think so..
Hmm I think there's a difference between shy and introverted though, it seems like Ali is pretty sociable but she still enjoys her own/alone time and isn't the loud/in your face type like many of them are
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 03:08 PM
Errrrr Jordan ??
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He wasn't either, he just pretended to make himself seem "interesting"
like Ali there is a distinct reek of narcissism..
I like Ali so far, I liked how she approached Emma and took the opportunity to straighten things out between them. Although I think she has been a bit harsh on Khaled based on how she viewed his disagreement with Hannah. I don't think he meant any harm by it and he seems nice imo.
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 04:30 PM
I like Ali so far, I liked how she approached Emma and took the opportunity to straighten things out between them. Although I think she has been a bit harsh on Khaled based on how she viewed his disagreement with Hannah. I don't think he meant any harm by it and he seems nice imo.
"I like Ali so far, I liked how she approached Emma and took the opportunity to straighten things out between them. "
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Sorry but she burst in when Emma was crying and confiding in Rosie
She ignored her and asked her about herself
it was rude, awkward and selfish
Nothing got straightened out and Emma will still feel resentment
:rolleyes:
"I like Ali so far, I liked how she approached Emma and took the opportunity to straighten things out between them. "
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Sorry but she burst in when Emma was crying and confiding in Rosie
She ignored her and asked her about herself
it was rude, awkward and selfish
Nothing got straightened out and Emma will still feel resentment
:rolleyes:
It seemed quite obvious to me that the scene was heavily edited down though, so she could have spoken to her about how she was feeling before she mentioned herself. I think she just had an instinct that their frosty relationship was maybe contributing to Emma feeling down so took the opportunity to resolve it. Emma seemed to appreciate it. Whether or not they get on from here we shall see.
rusticgal
12-10-2024, 04:45 PM
I think she is showing herself to be very calculated…she is playing on everyone’s minds. She knows exactly what she’s doing. She is making an alliance with Nathan who is equally switched on and someone she needs to keep at her side…I hope Nathan doesn’t fall for it.
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 04:47 PM
It seemed quite obvious to me that the scene was heavily edited down though, so she could have spoken to her about how she was feeling before she mentioned herself. I think she just had an instinct that their frosty relationship was maybe contributing to Emma feeling down so took the opportunity to resolve it. Emma seemed to appreciate it. Whether or not they get on from here we shall see.
ah yes well that could be so that it was edited for drama
I think she is showing herself to be very calculated…she is playing on everyone’s minds. She knows exactly what she’s doing. She is making an alliance with Nathan who is equally switched on and someone she needs to keep at her side…I hope Nathan doesn’t fall for it.
Maybe Ali should be more concerned with Nathan than the opposite
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It seemed quite obvious to me that the scene was heavily edited down though, so she could have spoken to her about how she was feeling before she mentioned herself. I think she just had an instinct that their frosty relationship was maybe contributing to Emma feeling down so took the opportunity to resolve it. Emma seemed to appreciate it. Whether or not they get on from here we shall see.
Yeah . I wondered how much of the scene had been edited- you may be onto something there
I think we all forget how much the highlights are edited
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It seemed quite obvious to me that the scene was heavily edited down though, so she could have spoken to her about how she was feeling before she mentioned herself. I think she just had an instinct that their frosty relationship was maybe contributing to Emma feeling down so took the opportunity to resolve it. Emma seemed to appreciate it. Whether or not they get on from here we shall see.
…yeah I think this also, that it might have felt a bit blunt and awkward but it was well meaning in broaching the subject because she maybe felt that the ‘frostiness’ might be a big contributory factor to Emma’s down and so to Ali it might have seemed like a perfect time almost to try to clear the air…and Emma did seem to appreciate it so we’ll see how they both are together going forward…I actually felt that it might be the beginning of their first truly positive connection…
I like Ali so far, I liked how she approached Emma and took the opportunity to straighten things out between them. Although I think she has been a bit harsh on Khaled based on how she viewed his disagreement with Hannah. I don't think he meant any harm by it and he seems nice imo.
…yeah, Khaled does seem nice, I agree …but I guess Ali was being quite protective of Hanah because she walked into a room with Hanah visibly upset and Khaled asking her to leave and give them a moment so she checked that Hanah was ok, obviously and then left…maybe it’s left her struggling a bit about whether Khaled is being genuine…?…
…yeah I think this also, that it might have felt a bit blunt and awkward but it was well meaning in broaching the subject because she maybe felt that the ‘frostiness’ might be a big contributory factor to Emma’s down and so to Ali it might have seemed like a perfect time almost to try to clear the air…and Emma did seem to appreciate it so we’ll see how they both are together going forward…I actually felt that it might be the beginning of their first truly positive connection…
Emma and Ali have been real friendly ever since ‘that’ scene.
Last night Emma was singing her praises to Nathan who also gets on real well with Ali
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Emma and Ali have been real friendly ever since ‘that’ scene.
Last night Emma was singing her praises to Nathan who also gets on real well with Ali
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…yeah I have to say that I feel a lot of warmth from Ali but that she’s maybe a bit socially awkward which can then appear more like aloofness when it isn’t…Ali has a great way with Lily in being supportive and quite maternal and warm…
Deirdre
12-10-2024, 05:33 PM
Autisic people are like that, I notice she can't pick up on humour very well. I was surprised when she says she likes Lily because her face kind of said the opposite when they were talking about their jobs
Autisic people are like that, I notice she can't pick up on humour very well. I was surprised when she says she likes Lily because her face kind of said the opposite when they were talking about their jobs
…absolutely, even if you explain that something was a jokey thing or not meant…it can still cause confusion and misunderstanding…Ali seems warm…(to me…)…but not demonstrative with her emotions/feelings…I like the warmth she’s shown though with Emma and Lily and I feel as though they’ve responded positively also…
Niamh.
12-10-2024, 05:47 PM
…absolutely, even if you explain that something was a jokey thing or not meant…it can still cause confusion and misunderstanding…Ali seems warm…(to me…)…but not demonstrative with her emotions/feelings…I like the warmth she’s shown, though with Emma and Lily and I feel as though they’ve responded positively also…People are forgetting that she explained why she can come across quiet or serious as well
People are forgetting that she explained why she can come across quiet or serious as well
…and isn’t that the whole thing of the house that we love…that blend of differing personalities in how they act and react and so far, Ali seems to have acted and reacted with warmth and gentleness whenever she’s seen anyone feeling a bit lost or overwhelmed by it all…
Autisic people are like that, I notice she can't pick up on humour very well. I was surprised when she says she likes Lily because her face kind of said the opposite when they were talking about their jobs
What could she have said though ..
“ That’s amazing “
“ How interesting “
Ali was probably just unsure what to say
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Liam-
12-10-2024, 06:00 PM
People are forgetting that she explained why she can come across quiet or serious as well
They’re not forgetting, they just don’t care
Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 06:01 PM
they’re not forgetting, they just don’t care
resident mind-reader alert
Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 08:15 PM
38 and still with a teenagers ring in her nose??
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/07/21/90567327-13934563-image-a-12_1728333970783.jpg
I personally don't mind women wearing stuff like that personally, it shows a bit more character and style imo.
I personally don't mind women wearing stuff like that personally, it shows a bit more character and style imo.
Thing is it’s quite discreet plus she’s gorgeous and that does make a difference .. imho
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GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 08:17 PM
In her place I would have said I was a barmaid or summat.... something less threatening to the others to stop them feeling they were being constantly evaluated/assessed (which I think they do now)
Funny you say this,I'm sure American BB use to sometimes embellish their backgrounds as for this very reason,as not to be judged. I know I've definitely seen it on other reality shows...where they've kept their cards close to their chest .
GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 08:18 PM
As introvert I would struggle in that situation as well. I really liked her in tonight's episode. It's good that she's talking to Nathan more.
Both her and Nathan will trip eachother up if they're not careful,this whole " alliance" is giving me bitchy vibes.
Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 08:19 PM
God help Marcello's soul if he ever wrongs Lily in any way. That would go over very poorly with the public.
I am not particularly protective of her, but I can already see the amassing of the pitchforks.
I hope that he doesn't do that either, for his own sake when he comes out of the house.
GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 08:22 PM
I'd never buy her as a barmaid lol. :laugh: Would be the most unapproachable barmaid ever.
Bar patron: Excuse me, miss?
Ali:
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A believable job for Ali would be something spa related, I can imagine her playing whale sounds for someone as she gives them a massage. She's so quiet and calm...and usually that's the relaxed vibe in a wellness environment:laugh::shrug: .
I hope that he doesn't do that either, for his own sake when he comes out of the house.
The good thing to come out of this is when he does go home all the local women will know he’s a sleezball creep and will give him a wide berth for their own safety
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Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 08:25 PM
Thing is it’s quite discreet plus she’s gorgeous and that does make a difference .. imho
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I always remember the girl in Linkin Park's Crawling Music Video wearing one.:flutter:
God I need to listen to that song later.😄
Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 08:28 PM
The good thing to come out of this is when he does go home all the local women will know he’s a sleezball creep and will give him a wide berth for their own safety
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So far I can't really disagree with this post, unfortunately as he has done it to himself.
GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 08:28 PM
That in itself is quite a disgusting comment. I know he's a sleazeball but don't project him as a paedophile or something. Wow!
Yeah that's pretty low , there's no evidence of that. No doubt...he is a pest and a bit of a sleaze though.
GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 08:31 PM
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Thanks for this Zizu,as I'm missing the live feed .
Thanks for this Zizu,as I'm missing the live feed .
You are welcome !
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GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 08:36 PM
Has Ali been flirting with Lily though?
Or am I just letting my own personal repulsion towards Lily cloud how other people are perceiving her?
Nobody is fancying Lily , they're all babying her . She acts like a toddler .
Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 08:39 PM
Nobody is fancying Lily , they're all babying her . She acts like a toddler .
Thank God, because you've said yourself, she behaves like a toddler.
GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 08:40 PM
Tbh I hadn't thought about the possible Homophobia allegations until you just mentioned it lol.
Tbf if I'm wrong then great, but if I'm right then I'll still like Ali to a point, but I would be disappointed with the strategy.
I really hope Ali lets her hair down , and tries bonding with the boys more bar Marcello of course.
Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 08:59 PM
I really hope Ali lets her hair down , and tries bonding with the boys more bar Marcello of course.
I agree.
thesheriff443
12-10-2024, 09:03 PM
Nobody is fancying Lily , they're all babying her . She acts like a toddler .
I don’t think it’s an act because eating your bogeys is taking it too far
GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 09:11 PM
I don’t think it’s an act because eating your bogeys is taking it too far
Yeah and she's supposed to be 20 , so it's alarming how she still behaves like a little nursery child who has no self awareness about basic health skills or Safety,she works in a takeaway shop.
Then again ...some of these takeaway places probably fail food hygiene anyway.
thesheriff443
12-10-2024, 09:15 PM
Yeah and she's supposed to be 20 , so it's alarming how she still behaves like a little nursery child who has no self awareness about basic health skills or Safety,she works in a takeaway shop.
Then again ...some of these takeaway places probably fail food hygiene anyway.
She is just immature for her age
Niamh.
13-10-2024, 09:29 AM
They’re not forgetting, they just don’t care
Yeah, seems that way.
I personally don't mind women wearing stuff like that personally, it shows a bit more character and style imo.
Yes .. it shows a touch of individuality
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Garfie
13-10-2024, 09:47 AM
Jesus .. he’s not suitable to be working with young women !
He’s already shown many times that he behaves inappropriately with and around young women and that’s with a hundred cameras around
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He’s also a very bad role model for young men. If he wants to go back to his job after this, I think they are going to have some serious discussions with him about how he’s presented himself on national TV.
Garfie
13-10-2024, 10:02 AM
Very much so
I have dyslexia/ aspergers / adhd
It’s exhausting though I wouldn’t change a thing even if I could .
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Never change a thing thing, Zizu. To me, people with ASD, are the most wonderful people to spend time with, and I’ve often said the world would be a better place if everyone was autistic. My dream has always been to own some land in the countryside, to use as an animal sanctuary, and for everyone who works there to be on the spectrum. That would be such a blissful existence.
You will have an understanding of Ali that many people won’t have, and will be aware that people on the spectrum are generally upfront and honest - they don’t usually have a sly or devious nature in my experience, as they find it difficult to lie.
And you are right to mention how exhausting it is to have these conditions, and be in a social setting for a long period of time, as it becomes overwhelming. This is why Ali is bound to withdraw from the group at some points, and just decompress. That isn’t her being aloof, which is how it can be interpreted.
Garfie
13-10-2024, 10:09 AM
You have read into that way too much. It's not that deep. She happens to just not have 'hung' around a Tory before. I would suspect most haven't and probably wouldn't want to.
I don't think she's making alliances to gain upper. What I have noticed so far is that if she has said something about someone behind their back she later will discuss it with them
And the truth is, every one of us discusses other people when they’re not there, and share our opinions on them. It’s part of being human, and a way of understanding others more effectively. As you say, often the reason for doing so is to clarify our thoughts in order to discuss any issues with the person at a later point.
thesheriff443
13-10-2024, 10:14 AM
You can be on the spectrum and be a nasty piece of work
One that springs to mind is the autistic guy that stabbed his girlfriend about 26 times to death
My daughter is autistic my partner works in
In a college with special needs
Last week she had a water bottle and a table thrown at her
Garfie
13-10-2024, 10:15 AM
People change , evolve ..
It’s obvious that opinions will change after observing and getting to know each other
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Exactly! That’s what happens in real life, and it is why, as viewers, we develop a greater understanding of housemates as time goes by, and sometimes change our own views on them as a consequence.
Niamh.
13-10-2024, 10:17 AM
You can be on the spectrum and be a nasty piece of work
One that springs to mind is the autistic guy that stabbed his girlfriend about 26 times to death
My daughter is autistic my partner works in
In a college with special needs
Last week she had a water bottle and a table thrown at her
Of course but she's not been a nasty piece of work. She reserved and quiet which she already explained is because of be8ng on the spectrum
Benjamin
13-10-2024, 10:28 AM
I really hope Ali lets her hair down , and tries bonding with the boys more bar Marcello of course.
Bar Nathan, she seemed to bond with Izaaz the most out of the lads.
thesheriff443
13-10-2024, 10:30 AM
Of course but she's not been a nasty piece of work. She reserved and quiet which she already explained is because of be8ng on the spectrum
I never said she was nasty but people making assumptions that it’s because she is on the spectrum that’s the way she is.
To get a good career while being on the spectrum gives me a clear indication that she is only slightly affected by it .
And it’s more of an excuse than an actual problem for her
Niamh.
13-10-2024, 10:39 AM
I never said she was nasty but people making assumptions that it’s because she is on the spectrum that’s the way she is.
To get a good career while being on the spectrum gives me a clear indication that she is only slightly affected by it .
And it’s more of an excuse than an actual problem for herThat's a big assumption by you, you have no idea how easy or hard it's been for her.
Garfie
13-10-2024, 10:41 AM
You can be on the spectrum and be a nasty piece of work
One that springs to mind is the autistic guy that stabbed his girlfriend about 26 times to death
My daughter is autistic my partner works in
In a college with special needs
Last week she had a water bottle and a table thrown at her
There are always exceptions and extremes, and I was saying in general. People on the Autistic spectrum can easily misread situations, feel threatened, become overwhelmed and some can lose their tempers as a result. Some can be targeted endlessly because they are different and others can misunderstand them. Therefore, some do have the potential to cause harm to others, just like every other section of society. In general, though, they do not have the intention to be nasty or devious - they can just find social interactions difficult to navigate.
Garfie
13-10-2024, 10:43 AM
Bar Nathan, she seemed to bond with Izaaz the most out of the lads.
I think that is probably because he is calm, patient, considerate and compassionate as a person. It would make sense for her to be drawn to someone with those characteristics.
thesheriff443
13-10-2024, 10:44 AM
That's a big assumption by you, you have no idea how easy or hard it's been for her.
My daughter has autism I’ve spent years around young adults on the spectrum and seen first hand how it affects them
To be on that show tells me all I need to know about how much she is affected by her condition
Being a quiet and reserved person can just be part of someone’s personality
Niamh.
13-10-2024, 10:46 AM
My daughter has autism I’ve spent years around young adults on the spectrum and seen first hand how it affects them
To be on that show tells me all I need to know about how much she is affected by her condition
Being a quiet and reserved person can just be part of someone’s personality
So because your daughter is autistic you're psychic about every other autistic person and their experiences?
I think that is probably because he is calm, patient, considerate and compassionate as a person. It would make sense for her to be drawn to someone with those characteristics.
And her friendship with Lily.?
thesheriff443
13-10-2024, 10:47 AM
Just to add I’m not invested in any one on the show it’s just a watered down version of a once great social experiment
thesheriff443
13-10-2024, 10:51 AM
So because your daughter is autistic you're psychic about every other autistic person and their experiences?
If you spend any time around those on the spectrum you would understand what I’m talking about
They don’t like change they like routine they like there own company
Social events cause them distress
I’m saying if she was that affected by her condition she would never be on the show
Garfie
13-10-2024, 10:55 AM
I never said she was nasty but people making assumptions that it’s because she is on the spectrum that’s the way she is.
To get a good career while being on the spectrum gives me a clear indication that she is only slightly affected by it .
And it’s more of an excuse than an actual problem for her
I’m a teacher with a specialism in ASD, and have worked closely with people on the spectrum for many years. People on the Asperger’s end of the spectrum can be highly intelligent and have great careers, as they are more likely to have the skills to manage their symptoms more effectively.
However, Autism isn’t about IQ, it’s about difficulties in reading other people, and in navigating social settings and interactions, because they have a very literal understanding of language. I would agree with you that Ali doesn’t have extreme traits of Autism, but I would guarantee her tendencies would still make life confusing and challenging for her.
To say that it is an excuse, rather than an actual problem, shows a total misunderstanding of the condition, which surprises me when you’ve shared that you have a daughter with Autism. Before you judge Ali in this way, perhaps consider if you would like people misjudging or dismissing your child in this way.
Garfie
13-10-2024, 11:09 AM
And her friendship with Lily.?
Just like everyone else, people on the spectrum can have different types of friendships.
Personality wise, Ali seems like a caring, compassionate and protective person, and this might draw her to Lily. She might also recognise Lily, like herself, as being someone who has difficulties fitting in socially, so could well be connecting with her for this reason.
I would imagine that when Lily is out of control, loud and chaotic, she would want to calm her down in order to make the environment around her calmer, and I would also imagine there are many parts of the day when she would need time out from Lily’s company.
Remember, we are only shown short extracts over about 45 minutes on each main show, and considering the number of people in there, and the number of interactions that would occur over a 24 hour period, a full picture of what is happening will be unknown to us.
ThomasC
13-10-2024, 11:13 AM
You can be on the spectrum and be a nasty piece of work
One that springs to mind is the autistic guy that stabbed his girlfriend about 26 times to death
My daughter is autistic my partner works in
In a college with special needs
Last week she had a water bottle and a table thrown at her
It is true, but there are exceptions.
Those who are on the autistic spectrum may have behaviours that challenge, more often than not it's a way of communicating.
Crimson Dynamo
13-10-2024, 11:30 AM
73% of Boomer males: "No matter what psychological challenges I face, I will
not let them define me."
72% of Gen Z females: "Mental illness is an important part of my identity."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZoTle4bYAA_26t?format=jpg&name=small
thesheriff443
13-10-2024, 11:32 AM
I’m a teacher with a specialism in ASD, and have worked closely with people on the spectrum for many years. People on the Asperger’s end of the spectrum can be highly intelligent and have great careers, as they are more likely to have the skills to manage their symptoms more effectively.
However, Autism isn’t about IQ, it’s about difficulties in reading other people, and in navigating social settings and interactions, because they have a very literal understanding of language. I would agree with you that Ali doesn’t have extreme traits of Autism, but I would guarantee her tendencies would still make life confusing and challenging for her.
To say that it is an excuse, rather than an actual problem, shows a total misunderstanding of the condition, which surprises me when you’ve shared that you have a daughter with Autism. Before you judge Ali in this way, perhaps consider if you would like people misjudging or dismissing your child in this way.
My daughter isn’t on a reality television show
As to being judged we all do it every second of the day
Don’t you dare try to undermine my experience of the system and those on it
GoldHeart
13-10-2024, 11:34 AM
Bar Nathan, she seemed to bond with Izaaz the most out of the lads.
Well she mentioned forming an ' alliance ' with Nathan. I wish they'd show more of her conversations with the other guys. I heard that she's speaking more to them on live feed , hopefully it makes some of the HL tonight.
Just like everyone else, people on the spectrum can have different types of friendships.
Personality wise, Ali seems like a caring, compassionate and protective person, and this might draw her to Lily. She might also recognise Lily, like herself, as being someone who has difficulties fitting in socially, so could well be connecting with her for this reason.
I would imagine that when Lily is out of control, loud and chaotic, she would want to calm her down in order to make the environment around her calmer, and I would also imagine there are many parts of the day when she would need time out from Lily’s company.
Remember, we are only shown short extracts over about 45 minutes on each main show, and considering the number of people in there, and the number of interactions that would occur over a 24 hour period, a full picture of what is happening will be unknown to us.
If it's so unknown to us, why are you totally disregarding peoples opinions about ali, and her level of adhd, when you've not had the full.picture either:shrug:.
Never change a thing thing, Zizu. To me, people with ASD, are the most wonderful people to spend time with, and I’ve often said the world would be a better place if everyone was autistic. My dream has always been to own some land in the countryside, to use as an animal sanctuary, and for everyone who works there to be on the spectrum. That would be such a blissful existence.
You will have an understanding of Ali that many people won’t have, and will be aware that people on the spectrum are generally upfront and honest - they don’t usually have a sly or devious nature in my experience, as they find it difficult to lie.
And you are right to mention how exhausting it is to have these conditions, and be in a social setting for a long period of time, as it becomes overwhelming. This is why Ali is bound to withdraw from the group at some points, and just decompress. That isn’t her being aloof, which is how it can be interpreted.
Oddly enough I do volunteer forestry work and help out at an animal sanctuary … pot bellied pigs , horses, donkeys, goats ( so many goats ) lambs, geese , ducks and various types of chickens
Oh and cats and a dawg
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ThomasC
13-10-2024, 02:52 PM
I never said she was nasty but people making assumptions that it’s because she is on the spectrum that’s the way she is.
To get a good career while being on the spectrum gives me a clear indication that she is only slightly affected by it .
And it’s more of an excuse than an actual problem for her
She's not on the autism spectrum though
She has ADHD. There is a difference between the two even though they're both neurological conditions.
ThomasC
13-10-2024, 02:56 PM
If it's so unknown to us, why are you totally disregarding peoples opinions about ali, and her level of adhd, when you've not had the full.picture either:shrug:.
It would help if people could stop saying she has autism when those words never came out her mouth.
I stand to be corrected.
Niamh.
13-10-2024, 03:05 PM
It would help if people could stop saying she has autism when those words never came out her mouth.
I stand to be corrected.Apparently she's diagnosed with ADHD and also exhibits autistic traits
https://www.ladbible.com/news/health/autism-adhd-combination-audhd-doctor-explains-big-brother-ali-bromley-984106-20241009
ThomasC
13-10-2024, 03:12 PM
Apparently she's diagnosed with ADHD and also exhibits autistic traits
https://www.ladbible.com/news/health/autism-adhd-combination-audhd-doctor-explains-big-brother-ali-bromley-984106-20241009
Ah, I missed what she said them
They can go hand in hand and symptoms can he present.
First time I've heard it called AuDHD
Apparently she's diagnosed with ADHD and also exhibits autistic traits
https://www.ladbible.com/news/health/autism-adhd-combination-audhd-doctor-explains-big-brother-ali-bromley-984106-20241009
Interesting
I have both also ( plus dyslexia) but this is the first I have heard of the term AuDHD
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Apparently she's diagnosed with ADHD and also exhibits autistic traits
https://www.ladbible.com/news/health/autism-adhd-combination-audhd-doctor-explains-big-brother-ali-bromley-984106-20241009
…it’s interesting that each condition massively contradict each other as one is more based in structure and order….whereas with ADHD…it’s more spontaniety and chaos, if you like…
…it’s interesting that each condition massively contradict each other as one is more based in structure and order….whereas with ADHD…it’s more spontaniety and chaos, if you like…
That’s precisely why its sooooo exhausting and frustrating !
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…you are diagnosed with both conditions, Zizu…?…
…you are diagnosed with both conditions, Zizu…?…
Initially Dyslexia , then later on Aspergers and more recently ADHD
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Initially Dyslexia , then later on Aspergers and more recently ADHD
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Our son and daughter are both ADHD and I have to live with that guilt
There are some positives but they are massively outweighed by the negatives
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Initially Dyslexia , then later on Aspergers and more recently ADHD
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…do you have any therapies or coaching etc in managing your conditions in terms of the conflicting way they must present and the impact that will have on you…?…
GoldHeart
13-10-2024, 04:14 PM
Our son and daughter are both ADHD and I have to live with that guilt
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Yeah but that's not your fault, I don't know what the chances are...but it isn't always genetic / hereditary.
…do you have any therapies or coaching etc in managing your conditions in terms of the conflicting way they must present and the impact that will have on you…?…
I have been given many strategies / coping methods over the years- some work
Life is exasperating and exhausting whilst being wonderfully amazing at the same time..
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Our son and daughter are both ADHD and I have to live with that guilt
There are some positives but they are massively outweighed by the negatives
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…it’s part of who they are and hopefully they manage it within their lifestyles and have happy and fulfilled lives…guilt isn’t something that should be felt, you’re big part of why they exist and that’s a wonderful thing…I’m sure that’s what they feel…
Yeah but that's not your fault, I don't know what the chances are...but it isn't always genetic / hereditary.
I cant say what the official figures are but in my 30 years of working with autistic teenagers I haven’t met one who didn’t have an autistic parent ( sometimes two ) - usually the dads
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I have been given many strategies / coping methods over the years- some work
Life is exasperating and exhausting whilst being wonderfully amazing at the same time..
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…yeah coping mechanisms and strategies aren’t a cure, I understand that…but managing also helps to understand and create preventatives, doesn’t it…Im sure that it is very exhausting but I’m glad that you have great joy through that exhaustion as well…
…it’s part of who they are and hopefully they manage it within their lifestyles and have happy and fulfilled lives…guilt isn’t something that should be felt, you’re big part of why they exist and that’s a wonderful thing…I’m sure that’s what they feel…
Oh yes ..
They are both successful but are stress heads
Both married with kids … who are showing signs..
None of us know the meaning of relaxation for instance .. it’s just not an option.
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…yeah coping mechanisms and strategies aren’t a cure, I understand that…but managing also helps to understand and create preventatives, doesn’t it…Im sure that it is very exhausting but I’m glad that you have great joy through that exhaustion as well…
Apologies people
I never intended to hog the thread but for all my failings .. if they found a cure I wouldn’t want it
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It's interesting zizu.
Thank you
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Oh yes ..
They are both successful but are stress heads
Both married with kids … who are showing signs..
None of us know the meaning of relaxation for instance .. it’s just not an option.
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…stress heading is quite popular in the world today I think for everyone but I understand what you’re saying…I do though think that a misplaced feeling of guilt probably guides you much more than you need to allow it to…I know you’ve mentioned your children from time to time and I know how proud you are of them …that’s all you need to feel, the wonderful lives that you’ve been a part of and journeyed with …:love:..
Apologies people
I never intended to hog the thread but for all my failings .. if they found a cure I wouldn’t want it
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…:love:…
…stress heading is quite popular in the world today I think for everyone but I understand what you’re saying…I do though think that a misplaced feeling of guilt probably guides you much more than you need to allow it to…I know you’ve mentioned your children from time to time and I know how proud you are of them …that’s all you need to feel, the wonderful lives that you’ve been a part of and journeyed with …:love:..
You are too kind .. thank you
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GoldHeart
13-10-2024, 04:35 PM
I cant say what the official figures are but in my 30 years of working with autistic teenagers I haven’t met one who didn’t have an autistic parent ( sometimes two ) - usually the dads
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Really ... that's interesting, because what about all those kids & teens who are diagnosed on the spectrum,but their parents don't seem to have any of the conditions themselves ? .
But now thinking about it , could it be the parents I'm talking about have never been diagnosed full stop ,or they just don't have the same symptoms etc...but could still be on the spectrum. It's a difficult one.
Maybe more research needs to be done, but I've noticed more & more young people these days are being diagnosed with either autism or ADHD or both.
I wonder if the parents took drugs in the 90s
I wonder if the parents took drugs in the 90s
Well not in my case
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It probably doesn't help the world is ridiculously fast-paced compared to what it used to be. Probably more than it needs to be. And everywhere we turn, something thrown at our feet to worry about or hold anxiety over. Western culture is preoccupied with fear and anxiety these days. If you speak a language that doesn't intersect with the English-speaking world, then it's even more blatant. Everyday, something we must be afraid of... cancer in our bodies, pollutants in the air, financial pressures, climate change... and then people who do have these conditions face their own personal pressures, especially hard at a young age when the brain is still deep in its formation stages... and the younger folk already face waaay too much pressure, imo. Like they're expected to fix things that they certainly are not being given the resources the fix, much less given the space to grow in their own way so that they can even think about tangibly attacking these major problems... much less even basic ones.
I don't think parents or practitioners can really make the world less scary. That's always been a pipe dream. But what we can do is not throw so many obstacles in their way... that's more my concern. I think we the adults need to grow up first before we can start heaping more pressure on the children. I know there's a tendency to pick at the weaknesses in the young, the types of things they're been surrounded by, the habits they're forming... well, guess what, I still hear lots of whinging from just my own generation, and I feel like until that entitlement streak stops, then we can't be major players in assisting the young forward... and if they get it wrong often, well... maybe look in the mirror... we are not great role models, is what I'm trying to say...
This was my TED talk.
Anyway, I don't want to infantilize the HMs. I feel like wherever Ali is neurologically, it's perfectly fine to just judge her as another player in the game. But I guess leave room for strange errors as far as relating to others... on the thread topic, it's not very important to me that she is able to joke or not. With the right company and relationships built in the house, she doesn't need to be the primary entertainment, but a supporting role. We've seen many cases where such an HM makes it through to the final only to grab the win. Whatever I may think of her potential motives (I have her on a solid yellow on the gameplayer radar...), I would not suggest she changes anything about how she's playing the game atm... she's doing really well, in that aspect, because she's forcing us all to guess her actual motives and we're mostly unable to come up with anything. Obviously it's keeping our interest.
ThomasC
13-10-2024, 06:35 PM
Really ... that's interesting, because what about all those kids & teens who are diagnosed on the spectrum,but their parents don't seem to have any of the conditions themselves ? .
But now thinking about it , could it be the parents I'm talking about have never been diagnosed full stop ,or they just don't have the same symptoms etc...but could still be on the spectrum. It's a difficult one.
Maybe more research needs to be done, but I've noticed more & more young people these days are being diagnosed with either autism or ADHD or both.
Both ADHD and Autism are highly genetic, research already suggests up to 80%. There are also other factors at play such as complications during birth.
You also have to account for masking, women do it better than men. It's a coping technique.
I would suggest that the 'parents' have mastered the art of that. I would also say that if you're not very aware of subtle signs it may pass you.
Better diagnosing.... It's quite jew, autism used to be called schizophrenia and they were known as mentally ill patients......a lot of them would bite, you know what they did? They took your teeth out!! You'd be in a psychiatric asylum... I work in the 'industry'.... lve supported older generations and you can see the signs of institutional abuse (guarding their food etc)... Anyway going off on a tangent, but basically we are better equipped to diagnose, although lately you'll be lucky if anything can be done and a diagnosis can take years
Autism really isn't textbook. If you have met one autistic person, then you have met ONE. Yes, there's a lot of similarities, but not always.
It's quite comprehensive.... Then add in co-morbidities.
Mystic Mock
13-10-2024, 09:20 PM
I think that is probably because he is calm, patient, considerate and compassionate as a person. It would make sense for her to be drawn to someone with those characteristics.
Am I the only one that finds Izaaz phony?:laugh:
I'm not saying that he is a horrible person, but he does seem to be a bit of a drip.
Am I the only one that finds Izaaz phony?:laugh:
I'm not saying that he is a horrible person, but he does seem to be a bit of a drip.
It's like the Hunger Games just started and somebody had to snap him out of it to get his sword & shield... "hey dude, this a game... you playin'?"
Mystic Mock
13-10-2024, 09:23 PM
Just to add I’m not invested in any one on the show it’s just a watered down version of a once great social experiment
Same here, I'm just enjoying the Show and the Forum.:laugh:
rusticgal
13-10-2024, 09:25 PM
Am I the only one that finds Izaaz phony?:laugh:
I'm not saying that he is a horrible person, but he does seem to be a bit of a drip.
Did he not say he wanted to remain neutral…then went and spilled the beans to Ali :shrug:
Mystic Mock
13-10-2024, 09:26 PM
73% of Boomer males: "No matter what psychological challenges I face, I will
not let them define me."
72% of Gen Z females: "Mental illness is an important part of my identity."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZoTle4bYAA_26t?format=jpg&name=small
Why would anyone let Mental Health issues be a personality trait?:umm2:
Because essentially your personality is your identity.
Mystic Mock
13-10-2024, 09:35 PM
It's like the Hunger Games just started and somebody had to snap him out of it to get his sword & shield... "hey dude, this a game... you playin'?"
:joker:
He definitely likes to be overly nice imo.
I am always weary of people like that.
Mystic Mock
13-10-2024, 09:36 PM
Did he not say he wanted to remain neutral…then went and spilled the beans to Ali :shrug:
He did indeed.:laugh:
Garfie
13-10-2024, 10:32 PM
My daughter isn’t on a reality television show
As to being judged we all do it every second of the day
Don’t you dare try to undermine my experience of the system and those on it
I genuinely apologise if it came across as if I was trying to undermine your experience of the system and those in it, as that was never my intention. In fact, I agreed with some of the points you made regarding Ali. Just because I don’t agree with everything you’ve said, or maybe in the way you’ve expressed your views, it doesn’t mean I am attempting to undermine you. I’m just responding from my experience and perspective. I care deeply for people on the Autistic Spectrum, and have, therefore, chosen to dedicate my life to working in this field. That’s why I found it so saddening that you dismissed someone’s Autistic traits as an excuse
People do make judgements on others each and every day, and I don’t dispute that, but judgements can be made with some recognition, understanding and compassion for a person’s diagnosis. Given your circumstances, I’d anticipated that you feel that more deeply than most.
Garfie
13-10-2024, 10:42 PM
If it's so unknown to us, why are you totally disregarding peoples opinions about ali, and her level of adhd, when you've not had the full.picture either:shrug:.
I’m not disregarding people’s opinions about Ali. I agreed with Sheriff that Ali’s traits were less pronounced than in others.
I am just trying to create some awareness and understanding of how the Autistic mind works, and how it can affect someone’s behaviour within social settings. My aim is to give another perspective for people to consider. If it is not coming across that way, then all I can do is apologise, and be more mindful in future.
Only Ali's ADHD has been diagnosed. She has diagnosed herself as having Autistic traits
Only Ali's ADHD has been diagnosed. She has diagnosed herself as having Autistic traits
How can you possibly know that
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Garfie
13-10-2024, 10:57 PM
Oddly enough I do volunteer forestry work and help out at an animal sanctuary … pot bellied pigs , horses, donkeys, goats ( so many goats ) lambs, geese , ducks and various types of chickens
Oh and cats and a dawg
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Aww, Zizu! I love that you do that. We are on the same page. I knew there was a reason I’ve always felt on the same wavelength as you, and why I have always felt I would choose you as a friend. :hug:
Aww, Zizu! I love that you do that. We are on the same page. I knew there was a reason I’ve always felt on the same wavelength as you, and why I have always felt I would choose you as a friend. :hug:
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Hugz
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Garfie
13-10-2024, 11:05 PM
Our son and daughter are both ADHD and I have to live with that guilt
There are some positives but they are massively outweighed by the negatives
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There is no guilt to be felt, Zizu. It wasn’t of your choice and it isn’t your fault. Try to turn your thinking around on that way, and reframe it. Think of the positives for your children in having a parent who can relate to what they are experiencing, show them understanding and provide them with the best coping strategies.
fredmeneedle
13-10-2024, 11:13 PM
There is no guilt to be felt, Zizu. It wasn’t of your choice and it isn’t your fault. Try to turn your thinking around on that way, and reframe it. Think of the positives for your children in having a parent who can relate to what they are experiencing, show them understanding and provide them with the best coping strategies.
Garfie I am so sorry that people felt the need to attack you for your obvious skills and caring within what must be a difficult life situation.
This is supposed to be a light-hearted discussion forum on a silly "reality" TV show and you do not deserve to be attacked for no good reason.
Garfie
13-10-2024, 11:27 PM
Both ADHD and Autism are highly genetic, research already suggests up to 80%. There are also other factors at play such as complications during birth.
You also have to account for masking, women do it better than men. It's a coping technique.
I would suggest that the 'parents' have mastered the art of that. I would also say that if you're not very aware of subtle signs it may pass you.
Better diagnosing.... It's quite jew, autism used to be called schizophrenia and they were known as mentally ill patients......a lot of them would bite, you know what they did? They took your teeth out!! You'd be in a psychiatric asylum... I work in the 'industry'.... lve supported older generations and you can see the signs of institutional abuse (guarding their food etc)... Anyway going off on a tangent, but basically we are better equipped to diagnose, although lately you'll be lucky if anything can be done and a diagnosis can take years
Autism really isn't textbook. If you have met one autistic person, then you have met ONE. Yes, there's a lot of similarities, but not always.
It's quite comprehensive.... Then add in co-morbidities.
This is a super summary of Autism and the facts and situation around it. Thank goodness for research and greater understanding - the experiences of the older generation you work with are too heartbreaking to imagine, and just don’t bear thinking about. Discussions like these are so beneficial in raising awareness, and that’s why it’s positive that someone like Ali is on the show.
Garfie
13-10-2024, 11:30 PM
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Hugz
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Beautiful, Zizu!
Garfie
13-10-2024, 11:48 PM
Garfie I am so sorry that people felt the need to attack you for your obvious skills and caring within what must be a difficult life situation.
This is supposed to be a light-hearted discussion forum on a silly "reality" TV show and you do not deserve to be attacked for no good reason.
Bless you, fred - this is such a kind, considerate message and I truly appreciate your thoughtfulness in sending it.
I’m okay with it, though. It is what it is.:shrug:
The important thing is that I know what my intentions were, and I know that I was coming from a good place. I’ve seen too many Autistic students bullied, mocked, misinterpreted, badly treated or harshly judged over the years, and I’ve seen their pain and struggling first hand, so I stand by my desire to defend and protect those who face such injustices. If that makes me wrong in the eyes of some people, I can live with that.
Sometimes watching BB and the housemates can raise important real-life issues, that should be discussed, and they should have their place on the forum. I think I might be ready for some humour and laughter to balance it out soon, though, and from what I’ve seen so far, you are a pretty good at bringing the humour!
Thanks again, Fred. You’re a gem.
Mystic Mock
14-10-2024, 12:00 AM
You bring an interesting perspective to the Forum.
Garfie
GlitterUK
14-10-2024, 12:35 AM
Interesting when Emma was crying Ali came into the conversation and rather console Emma or ask why she was upset she turned the conversation around to herself. I would love to see Ali and Emma argue and see who wins.
Anyone get the impression Ali dislikes most men? I wish Ali would stop doing her job in big brother and just be herself.
Beautiful, Zizu!
You bring an interesting perspective to the Forum.
Garfie
I love when the BB forum is active. It is more wholesome in some ways because the rarer people come back and we get to have nice conversations and treats like this...
Interesting when Emma was crying Ali came into the conversation and rather console Emma or ask why she was upset she turned the conversation around to herself. I would love to see Ali and Emma argue and see who wins.
Anyone get the impression Ali dislikes most men? I wish Ali would stop doing her job in big brother and just be herself.
Interesting.. I was listening to Ali comfort a stressed out Daze ..
All I heard was Daze explaining her side and Ali listening then constantly reassuring her
How odd ..
Hopefully we get to see their conversation tomorrow night
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GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 05:21 AM
Interesting when Emma was crying Ali came into the conversation and rather console Emma or ask why she was upset she turned the conversation around to herself. I would love to see Ali and Emma argue and see who wins.
Anyone get the impression Ali dislikes most men? I wish Ali would stop doing her job in big brother and just be herself.
Disappointingly Ali has it in for the boys it seems. And she needs to leave Khaled alone. I truly believe he's genuine. It's barely been a week and she was already turning some of the housemates against him.
I'm hoping Nathan & Rosie continue to think for themselves ,they both seemed surprised by Ali's remarks about Khaled and they both think ( and rightly so) that he's a nice genuine guy.
I really hope this backfires on Ali big time,I'm not liking how ice cold she is towards people especially Khaled. Apparently it's a crime to be the concerning nice guy now ... seriously get in the bin Ali ! :bored: :idc: .
Interesting when Emma was crying Ali came into the conversation and rather console Emma or ask why she was upset she turned the conversation around to herself. I would love to see Ali and Emma argue and see who wins.
Anyone get the impression Ali dislikes most men? I wish Ali would stop doing her job in big brother and just be herself.
…no, I have to say that I don’t get that impression at all…all we’ve seen of her is in the BB house and there’s only one disconnection with a male and that’s Khaled so I don’t get at all how that could equate to ‘most men’…and she’s been very clear in that she feels it’s because he’s very ‘measured’ and contrived even in his actions and thinking about what he feels he wants to present as a personality rather than who he really is…as emotionless as she seemed in her conversation with him, she was surely being herself and wasn’t thinking about how she would be perceived…if she was then that conversation wouldn’t have been what it was, surely…she would have just said…yeah, it’s all cool and dandy, let’s move on/type thing…she genuinely seems to believe he’s contrived and can’t get beyond that atm to form any sort of understanding with him…are my thoughts, anyway…
Mystic Mock
14-10-2024, 05:25 AM
I love when the BB forum is active. It is more wholesome in some ways because the rarer people come back and we get to have nice conversations and treats like this...
I like it because it can mean that we can have more varied opinions that we don't really get as much of during off-season.
Which any member is welcome to join us off-season if they so wish.
We have Politics, General Chat, TV, Movie, Video Game, and Porn chats.
The good stuff.
…just to say also that Ali is a forensic/criminal psychologist specifically, so negative traits is something she’s highlighted to and looks for…and whether she’s correct or not, she obviously feels that she sees something that jars her with Khaled…just like some in the thread have said that they feel some knowledge about autistic traits and adhd etc because of their jobs…well, she’s also being led by what she feels through experience maybe as well…?…that doesn’t mean that anyone is correct, it just means that they’re trying to implement a learned and instinctive skill set…and we all form our thoughts on life experience which Ali possibly is as well…she didn’t look great last night and she may be in real danger this week but I’m not going to criticise her for criticising Khaled harshly and then criticise her harshly in the same vein…that kind of made sense in my head…
ThomasC
14-10-2024, 07:20 AM
This is a super summary of Autism and the facts and situation around it. Thank goodness for research and greater understanding - the experiences of the older generation you work with are too heartbreaking to imagine, and just don’t bear thinking about. Discussions like these are so beneficial in raising awareness, and that’s why it’s positive that someone like Ali is on the show.
Thank you.
I'm only 33, but some of the stories I've heard from older colleagues who worked the field back then are really shocking.
They'd take your children off you and replace them with a doll.
ThomasC
14-10-2024, 07:23 AM
…no, I have to say that I don’t get that impression at all…all we’ve seen of her is in the BB house and there’s only one disconnection with a male and that’s Khaled so I don’t get at all how that could equate to ‘most men’…and she’s been very clear in that she feels it’s because he’s very ‘measured’ and contrived even in his actions and thinking about what he feels he wants to present as a personality rather than who he really is…as emotionless as she seemed in her conversation with him, she was surely being herself and wasn’t thinking about how she would be perceived…if she was then that conversation wouldn’t have been what it was, surely…she would have just said…yeah, it’s all cool and dandy, let’s move on/type thing…she genuinely seems to believe he’s contrived and can’t get beyond that atm to form any sort of understanding with him…are my thoughts, anyway…
I don't get the impression she dislikes all the men either.
Can't say I can see the reason behind feeling like Khaled is fake. Haven't really seen it myself, but that's her opinion and TBF to her she was more than happy to go up to him and express her thoughts.
I found the conversation refreshing. She said what she said very openly and politely and left it at that.
From clips I have seen, Khaled doesn't seem to want to let it lie. He's upset by it, which he is entitled to be.
It's life, not everyone gets on
thesheriff443
14-10-2024, 07:42 AM
Ali actually reminds me of the time nasty nick was in the house
Ali actually reminds me of the time nasty nick was in the house
Oh yeah , he breathed oxygen , drank water and ate food as well !!!
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Crimson Dynamo
14-10-2024, 07:49 AM
Has Ali actually spent any time with the boys bar Nathan
Has she got an issue with hetro men??
GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 07:51 AM
Has Ali actually spent any time with the boys bar Nathan
Has she got an issue with hetro men??
I'm starting to think she only gets on with Nathan and she thinks they're 2 peas in a pod... he's very much in the bosom of her group . But he also gets on with Emma it seems ,I wonder how Ali will feel...if she knew Nathan disagreed with her views on Khaled.
thesheriff443
14-10-2024, 07:55 AM
Oh yeah , he breathed oxygen , drank water and ate food as well !!!
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Look you need calm the fcuk down
People are allowed opinions based on what we have seen learned and experienced
Look you need calm the fcuk down
People are allowed opinions based on what we have seen learned and experienced
I am perfectly calm .. seems it’s you who is stressing- I simply don’t agree with your ridiculous ( imho) comparison
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thesheriff443
14-10-2024, 08:14 AM
I am perfectly calm .. seems it’s you who is stressing- I simply don’t agree with your ridiculous ( imho) comparison
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I won’t been feeding you any more
arista
14-10-2024, 08:14 AM
I don't think it was good she revealed she worked in psych so early on, because now she's pigeon-holed into the box of being the "professional friend" while she is in... it's going to make it difficult for the public to warm to her since now every comment made seen as being made under an umbrella. It would've been more entertaining to let it go on a bit longer without the reveal...
Yes, she needs to Relax.
Her Stubbornness looks hard
Yes, she needs to Relax.
Her Stubbornness looks hard
Some people with her particular complexities simply cannot relax …
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GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 08:24 AM
Some people with her particular complexities simply cannot relax …
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I understand the difficulties ,but it honestly feels like you're giving her a huge pass. She has no problem mixing with certain housemates if she wants to, I get that Khaled and herself are from very different backgrounds...and probably wouldn't speak on the outside world.
But this is the same person who said she "doesn't hang around with Tories", and here she is besties with Nathan . She doesn't have to get on with everyone in the house. But she's coming across bitchy with it.
arista
14-10-2024, 08:25 AM
Some people with her particular complexities simply cannot relax …
Maybe a man
can make her happy?
Maybe a man
can make her happy?
Have you been watching the show LOL
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Maybe a man
can make her happy?
…oh dear Lord, Arista…she’s had a man, she wasn’t happy…she’s found a lady, she’s happy…them’s the apples, really…
rusticgal
14-10-2024, 08:32 AM
I'm starting to think she only gets on with Nathan and she thinks they're 2 peas in a pod... he's very much in the bosom of her group . But he also gets on with Emma it seems ,I wonder how Ali will feel...if she knew Nathan disagreed with her views on Khaled.
I have a feeling something went down last night and Khaled got a little ganged up on...Nathan came to his defence I think...hence the conversation between Nathan and Daze. Nathan seems unaware of Ali's dislike of Khalid so maybe it will all come to light...Nathan needs to steer clear.
Mystic Mock
14-10-2024, 08:36 AM
Maybe a man
can make her happy?
She's a Lesbian, Arista.
I understand the difficulties ,but it honestly feels like you're giving her a huge pass. She has no problem mixing with certain housemates if she wants to, I get that Khaled and herself are from very different backgrounds...and probably wouldn't speak on the outside world.
But this is the same person who said she "doesn't hang around with Tories", and here she is besties with Nathan . She doesn't have to get on with everyone in the house. But she's coming across bitchy with it.
I just know that she will be finding her time in the house about 3 times more difficult/ taxing / challenging/ exhausting than the rest of them .
I am 99.99% certain that her brain will be working 100% of the time in there.
She will also be doubting/ second guessing her every thought and suspicion then rerunning it all through her mind repeatedly.
All the above makes you extremely tense and maybe volatile
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Crimson Dynamo
14-10-2024, 09:12 AM
Some people with her particular complexities simply cannot relax …
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everyone has "issues" whether they have a name or not
stop making excuses for her
everyone has "issues" whether they have a name or not
stop making excuses for her
Well stop abusing/ attacking her with an endless stream of ridiculous claims and statements - you are making her into a hate hate figure from one or two conversations..
I admit to have criticised Marcello but for hundreds of sexual comments and suspect scenarios
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GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 02:23 PM
Well stop abusing/ attacking her with an endless stream of ridiculous claims and statements - you are making her into a hate hate figure from one or two conversations..
I admit to have criticised Marcello but for hundreds of sexual comments and suspect scenarios
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Don't you think it's strange though that Ali has such a strong dislike for Khaled,yet she's forgotten how Marcello lied about them kissing ?. You would think she'd still had it in for Marcello,but it seems she's not bothered by him now.
Khaled hasn't done anything to her , even if she finds some of his behaviour annoying...I find it very weird how she's turned on him.
Garfie
15-10-2024, 07:17 AM
…no, I have to say that I don’t get that impression at all…all we’ve seen of her is in the BB house and there’s only one disconnection with a male and that’s Khaled so I don’t get at all how that could equate to ‘most men’…and she’s been very clear in that she feels it’s because he’s very ‘measured’ and contrived even in his actions and thinking about what he feels he wants to present as a personality rather than who he really is…as emotionless as she seemed in her conversation with him, she was surely being herself and wasn’t thinking about how she would be perceived…if she was then that conversation wouldn’t have been what it was, surely…she would have just said…yeah, it’s all cool and dandy, let’s move on/type thing…she genuinely seems to believe he’s contrived and can’t get beyond that atm to form any sort of understanding with him…are my thoughts, anyway…
I think this is a very honest and rational summary of events, Ammi. I am not, personally seeing Khaled as fake. I just see a decent young guy, who is trying to treat others kindly and trying his best to fit in. To me, that’s understandable in the first week of meeting new people, and not a negative. I accept that, to some housemates, that might feel he is trying too hard, but I don’t feel he’s coming from a bad place.
Despite my understanding and defence of those on the Autistic Spectrum, I didn’t like what she did, or how she handled her feelings. She could have had a private conversation, and discussed her perception with him one-to-one. There was no need to call him out and humiliate him in a public setting - to me that was harsh, even though I understand that, to her, it was just being upfront and honest.
Part of me also feels that her thought process has been based on an analysis she might have made from a professional standpoint, which she would understand much more, rather than on social etiquette, that she would struggle to understand as effectively.
People on the spectrum can become quite fixated on certain things, and I think that she might have fixated on a certain view of Khaled that she can’t shake, and that is now affecting her perception of everything he says and does, even though it might not be justified.
In this instance, despite understanding it, I feel Ali’s actions were unnecessary and wrong, and I wish she would take a step back and think about the impact of public accusations and humiliation on an individual. Even if, in a social setting she might not understand that, she should be able to understand it from a professional basis.
GoldHeart
15-10-2024, 12:05 PM
The funny thing is everything Ali is accusing others of doing or more specifically Khaled, she's actually doing herself.... it's more like projection.
Don't you think it's strange though that Ali has such a strong dislike for Khaled,yet she's forgotten how Marcello lied about them kissing ?. You would think she'd still had it in for Marcello,but it seems she's not bothered by him now.
Khaled hasn't done anything to her , even if she finds some of his behaviour annoying...I find it very weird how she's turned on him.
Well it shows she doesn’t hold grudges ( unlike Khaled who clearly said he would forgive ( for the cameras) but NOT forget when speaking about Ali yesterday.
It also shows she doesn’t hate all men as claimed by many on this forum ( repeatedly)
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How can you possibly know that
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Cause she said it herself on the 1st or 2nd night.
She said she was diagnosed with adhd, but sees some autistic traits in herself.
Like I said the other day, it's better to watch the show, then post. Rather than posting whilst watching. You pick up a lot more info that way.
Adamw92
15-10-2024, 03:39 PM
Don't you think it's strange though that Ali has such a strong dislike for Khaled,yet she's forgotten how Marcello lied about them kissing ?. You would think she'd still had it in for Marcello,but it seems she's not bothered by him now.
Khaled hasn't done anything to her , even if she finds some of his behaviour annoying...I find it very weird how she's turned on him.
Have we even seen her really interact with Marcello since then though? Maybe she’s just distanced herself from him and doesn’t speak about him or maybe it’s not being shown if she does?
Like I said the other day, it's better to watch the show, then post. Rather than posting whilst watching. You pick up a lot more info that way.
Bollox
I record then watch with a delay
So watch pause post. .. watch pause post
Don’t let the truth or facts get in the way of your amateur sleuthing though ..baseless nonsense ..
I also watch 3 hours LIVE STREAM each night- do you ?
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Khaled hasn't done anything to her , even if she finds some of his behaviour annoying...I find it very weird how she's turned on him.
We see about 30 minutes of selective/edited highlights each day out of 24 HOURS
Now that works out at around 2 to 3 minutes of individual coverage .. yet everyone is soooooo happy to constantly crucify Ali based on a few minutes of specially selected footage
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