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Benjamin
11-10-2024, 09:04 PM
Thoughts?

jones89
11-10-2024, 09:05 PM
I mean he’s creepy with everyone tbh but the “vape kiss” then “we kissed” was obviously a joke

Dogeatdog
11-10-2024, 09:05 PM
I mean he’s creepy with everyone tbh but the “vape kiss” then “we kissed” was obviously a joke

Yh I agree.

Adamw92
11-10-2024, 09:06 PM
He’s creepy in general. He manages to make everything sexual and seems allergic to shirts… just eww :omgno:

MTVN
11-10-2024, 09:07 PM
I mean he’s creepy with everyone tbh but the “vape kiss” then “we kissed” was obviously a joke

Agreed and just playing off the fact they came out the smoking area together, it's a pretty obvious joke to make and no one would have thought it was serious given that she's gay and he's straight

Ali was the one who made a drama out of it

Jordan.
11-10-2024, 09:07 PM
Creepy and disrespectful of her sexuality.

joeysteele
11-10-2024, 09:08 PM
He comes across creepy full stop.

Barry.
11-10-2024, 09:10 PM
A creep

Crimson Dynamo
11-10-2024, 09:23 PM
He is a creep and she is sly

Both at fault

Glenn.
11-10-2024, 09:24 PM
Definitely creepy

fredmeneedle
11-10-2024, 09:27 PM
Thinks he's god's gift but really is a smarmy up himself horror

rusticgal
11-10-2024, 09:31 PM
He needs to reign it in…but he is so up himself thinking he is gods gift I can’t see him doing it.

Starscream
11-10-2024, 09:33 PM
He's a creep who will go to far with Baked Potato before long.

fredmeneedle
11-10-2024, 09:42 PM
He needs to reign it in…but he is so up himself thinking he is gods gift I can’t see him doing it.

If we had been talking in person that would have been a case for "linking of the pinkies"!!

BBDodge
11-10-2024, 09:49 PM
He's creepy with all the women.

Liam-
11-10-2024, 09:54 PM
He’s a major creep

Heaven = Winner
11-10-2024, 09:54 PM
I'm coming out of hiding for the year just to say how dreadfully abhorrent the vile Marcello is. I can't remember the last time I loathed watching a housemate the same way I loathe watching this terrible cretin.

Benjamin
11-10-2024, 10:11 PM
I'm coming out of hiding for the year just to say how dreadfully abhorrent the vile Marcello is. I can't remember the last time I loathed watching a housemate the same way I loathe watching this terrible cretin.

:lovedup: welcome back.

Heaven = Winner
11-10-2024, 10:21 PM
:lovedup: welcome back.

Thank you! <3

Mystic Mock
11-10-2024, 10:24 PM
Not just with Ali, but also with Sarah and Rosie.

Niamh.
11-10-2024, 10:24 PM
He is a creep and she is sly

Both at fault

Hiw was she at fault? She did nothing

Ammi
11-10-2024, 10:25 PM
I'm coming out of hiding for the year just to say how dreadfully abhorrent the vile Marcello is. I can't remember the last time I loathed watching a housemate the same way I loathe watching this terrible cretin.

…one thing I like about him…?…he brought you back to the forum, lovely to see you posting…:love:…

Mystic Mock
11-10-2024, 10:26 PM
Agreed and just playing off the fact they came out the smoking area together, it's a pretty obvious joke to make and no one would have thought it was serious given that she's gay and he's straight

Ali was the one who made a drama out of it

It's the boy who cried Wolf with Marcello at this point.

thesheriff443
11-10-2024, 10:29 PM
I can’t see the fuss being made about some old dull lesbian

Cherie
11-10-2024, 10:31 PM
Agreed and just playing off the fact they came out the smoking area together, it's a pretty obvious joke to make and no one would have thought it was serious given that she's gay and he's straight

Ali was the one who made a drama out of it

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fredmeneedle
11-10-2024, 10:31 PM
The thread is about him not her..... he is a legend in his own lunchtime and a complete narcissist.

Mystic Mock
11-10-2024, 10:31 PM
I can’t see the fuss being made about some old dull lesbian

She's not my type.

But she is heads and shoulders above the other women this year in terms of looks imo, so creeps like Marcello go into overdrive when they see someone like Ali.

Liam-
11-10-2024, 10:33 PM
Hiw was she at fault? She did nothing

The crime of being a woman

Cherie
11-10-2024, 10:34 PM
If she was in anyway upset about it she would be honing in on Marcello not on Khalid and suggesting alliances, Khalid and Hanah ironed out their diffferences, no need for her to take offence on Hanahs behalf

thesheriff443
11-10-2024, 10:35 PM
She's not my type.

But she is heads and shoulders above the other women this year in terms of looks imo, so creeps like Marcello go into overdrive when they see someone like Ali.

No way mock she got a long face with a big nose rosey and Hannah are far more attractive

thesheriff443
11-10-2024, 10:37 PM
If she was in anyway upset about it she would be honing in on Marcello not on Khalid and suggesting alliances, Khalid and Hanah ironed out their diffferences, no need for her to take offence on Hanahs behalf

Can see her being the sh1t stirrer

Heaven = Winner
11-10-2024, 10:39 PM
…one thing I like about him…?…he brought you back to the forum, lovely to see you posting…:love:…

Oh, espčce de charmeur! Thank you, lovely <3

Mystic Mock
11-10-2024, 10:46 PM
No way mock she got a long face with a big nose rosey and Hannah are far more attractive

Fair enough.

At least you didn't say Lily.:laugh:

Cherie
11-10-2024, 10:50 PM
Can see her being the sh1t stirrer

I think she will be a major bitch and she will drag Nathan and Lily down with her if they are not careful

Maru
11-10-2024, 10:52 PM
I don't think it matters whether it is Ali or someone else, he's farming for reactions. I think part of the reason they're not reacting to his "banter" yet is because it must be very obvious in the house what he is doing.

Ali I think considered taking it further, but then realized it could backfire massively... consider too if he's that blatantly creepy to us, only imagine how it must feel like in there. Then why would Ali share a vape with him at all, if she's worried about boundaries accidentally appearing to be crossed? She's not stupid, either.

Niamh.
11-10-2024, 10:56 PM
I don't think it matters whether it is Ali or someone else, he's farming for reactions. I think part of the reason they're not reacting to his "banter" yet is because it must be very obvious in the house what he is doing.

Ali I think considered taking it further, but then realized it could backfire massively... consider too if he's that blatantly creepy to us, only imagine how it must feel like in there. Then why would Ali share a vape with him at all, if she's worried about boundaries accidentally appearing to be crossed? She's not stupid, either.Letting him try her vape is hardly encouraging someone though, that wouldn't even have occurred to me

fredmeneedle
11-10-2024, 10:57 PM
I don't think it matters whether it is Ali or someone else, he's farming for reactions. I think part of the reason they're not reacting to his "banter" yet is because it must be very obvious in the house what he is doing.

Ali I think considered taking it further, but then realized it could backfire massively... consider too if he's that blatantly creepy to us, only imagine how it must feel like in there. Then why would Ali share a vape with him at all, if she's worried about boundaries accidentally appearing to be crossed? She's not stupid, either.

Indeed, well said. I can see him getting a reprimand at some point when he takes his lothario-ness a bit too far

Maru
11-10-2024, 11:26 PM
Letting him try her vape is hardly encouraging someone though, that wouldn't even have occurred to me

I wouldn't think to share anything that has my body fluids attached to it with a person who is actively going out of their way to overly sexualize interactions with other females in the house. I certainly couldn't push aside that tendency with an SO watching :laugh: It's too hard to believe for me she wouldn't be aware of that with her psych background, either.

That said, I don't think he or the gf would be offended by a bad joke at home because it's so obviously not a "thing" between them. And if the girlfriend were to be the sensitive jealous type, she would be even more careful with her interactions around that person. So the level she had to take it to to find offense, imo, seems a bit strange.

I'm not saying it has to this delicately contrived scheme of 3D chess, but Marcello is his own downfall waiting to happen. It's clear to us, so have to think, it's reasonably clear to many of them in there? Interacting directly with him is a good way to test how he actually handles conflict and whether he actually is intentionally hitting buttons or not. So she can figure out what might happen with him by making him more comfortable around her with little gestures like sharing a vape as it gives her a chance to make a good analysis of him. It's not to get him evicted per say because he's going anyway... but any resulting drama from his bad wording of virtually anything can work in her favor also if she plays her cards right, since we know Marcello is quite the skilled wordsmith according to Marcello... Still, it's too early for anyone to start up too much drama, as Marcello is an easy pickings for the next person out. Doing nothing about it is an easy way to avoid getting under people's skin and being nominated earlier on.

I don't think the HMs are as offended by his commentary and behavior as we might be out here, but other than Lily, they would have to be daft to not even be considering how he easily could be perceived based on past ejections alone.

Zizu
12-10-2024, 12:22 AM
I'm coming out of hiding for the year just to say how dreadfully abhorrent the vile Marcello is. I can't remember the last time I loathed watching a housemate the same way I loathe watching this terrible cretin.


He’s even more loathsome in the unedited LIVE FEED !!

When speaking to females more or less every conversation turns to sex ..


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Maru
12-10-2024, 12:32 AM
He’s even more loathsome in the unedited LIVE FEED !!

When speaking to females more or less every conversation turns to sex ..


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Oh wow...

Garfie
12-10-2024, 12:34 AM
Just to make people aware, one of the major difficulties of people on the Autistic Spectrum, is their inability to read and understand social interactions effectively, as they tend to interpret language in a very literal way, making it challenging to recognise when someone is being sarcastic, using banter or making a joke.. I would imagine it is probably her condition, rather than for any devious reason, that Ali showed concern about the kiss comment.

Due to how they interpret language, Autistic people can be quite naive and innocent regarding the intentions of other people, and can therefore easily be taken advantage of, or manipulated. Just as their tendency is to interpret language very literally, they also tend to use it in the same way, and for that reason, they have much less capacity to lie, deceive, manipulate or scheme than the average person.

The majority of us can identify whether someone is being serious or having a joke through social cues which we can easily recognise, such as tone of voice, facial expressions and body language. We can do this without even thinking about it. In contrast, Autistic people cannot read social cues, so they are often unable to understand them in the way we instinctively do - to them, these cues are a foreign language which is immensely difficult (and for many impossible) to master, as their brains just don’t work that way. This makes navigating social situations and interactions unimaginably challenging, and like a minefield of confusion.

These are things that might be worth considering when forming views on how Ali is behaving.

Mystic Mock
12-10-2024, 12:39 AM
He’s even more loathsome in the unedited LIVE FEED !!

When speaking to females more or less every conversation turns to sex ..


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Marcello is going to come out to this song, isn't he?:laugh:

RF0HhrwIwp0

Maru
12-10-2024, 12:59 AM
Just to make people aware, one of the major difficulties of people on the Autistic Spectrum, is their inability to read and understand social interactions effectively, as they tend to interpret language in a very literal way, making it challenging to recognise when someone is being sarcastic, using banter or making a joke.. I would imagine it is probably her condition, rather than for any devious reason, that Ali showed concern about the kiss comment.

Due to how they interpret language, Autistic people can be quite naive and innocent regarding the intentions of other people, and can therefore easily be taken advantage of, or manipulated. Just as their tendency is to interpret language very literally, they also tend to use it in the same way, and for that reason, they have much less capacity to lie, deceive, manipulate or scheme than the average person.

The majority of us can identify whether someone is being serious or having a joke through social cues which we can easily recognise, such as tone of voice, facial expressions and body language. We can do this without even thinking about it. In contrast, Autistic people cannot read social cues, so they are often unable to understand them in the way we instinctively do - to them, these cues are a foreign language which is immensely difficult (and for many impossible) to master, as their brains just don’t work that way. This makes navigating social situations and interactions unimaginably challenging, and like a minefield of confusion.

These are things that might be worth considering when forming views on how Ali is behaving.

Hmmmm.. That gives me something to consider. Honestly, if it weren't for her psych background, I could've just as easily chocked it to slow reaction time and not really thinking through regarding who she was dealing with. But I might have still kept her on yellow. However, I feel like of all the HMs there, even with an Autism diagnosis, she has a potential edge when it comes to gameplay if she plays her cards right. It's entirely possible though she or BB are over-representing her expertise. That wouldn't be surprising either.

GlitterUK
12-10-2024, 01:23 AM
I don't think he is being any different towards Ali than he is with baked potato. He is a bit sleazy and cringey.
I also think Ali is a smart cookie, I think she is a game player.

MTVN
12-10-2024, 06:19 AM
Did Ali say she's autistic? I know she said she has ADHD

Zizu
12-10-2024, 06:28 AM
Did Ali say she's autistic? I know she said she has ADHD


It apparently comes under the spectrum these days

I guess everything under the spectrum kinda overlaps to one degree or another


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Zizu
12-10-2024, 06:32 AM
I don't think he is being any different towards Ali than he is with baked potato. He is a bit sleazy and cringey.
I also think Ali is a smart cookie, I think she is a game player.


He was unbelievably sleezey when interacting with Rosie last night in the LIVE footage show..

But sadly Rosie is a tad needy and was lovin it - she was like a giggly schoolgirl- soaking all the sleezeball comments up like a sponge

It was an uncomfortable watch to my mind


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GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 09:03 PM
First of all wtf is that weird little vaping/ smoking hut with their own mini lockers .

It's too enclosed / tiny , there isn't even chairs or anything.

Why was the camera in there like it was being filmed on a literal potato from 2001 old vintage style :joker::rolleyes: .

Why did Ali even share a vape with Marcello, I've always found it a bit gross when smokers casually do that .

His comment wasn't funny,and he kept pushing the joke . Ali should have just ignored his garbage antics and walked away.

Anyone with common sense knows he's full of BS, you can tell he's enjoying causing trouble and pushing people's buttons. Ali should have just told him he'd be the last man she'd Kiss.

Crimson Dynamo
12-10-2024, 09:06 PM
Did Ali say she's autistic? I know she said she has ADHD

I think it depends on who she is talking to

thesheriff443
12-10-2024, 09:09 PM
First of all wtf is that weird little vaping/ smoking hut with their own mini lockers .

It's too enclosed / tiny , there isn't even chairs or anything.

Why was the camera in there like it was being filmed on a literal potato from 2001 old vintage style :joker::rolleyes: .

Why did Ali even share a vape with Marcello, I've always found it a bit gross when smokers casually do that .

His comment wasn't funny,and he kept pushing the joke . Ali should have just ignored his garbage antics and walked away.

Anyone with common sense knows he's full of BS, you can tell he's enjoying causing trouble and pushing people's buttons. Ali should have just told him he'd be the last man she'd Kiss.

They don’t want to make the smoking area comfortable and housemates to spend too much time in there because it’s not being filmed for us to watch the lockers are so each house mate can keep their own smoke stuff safe

smudgie
12-10-2024, 09:11 PM
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He is a sex pest.
Thinks far too highly of himself and needs putting in his place.

Zizu
12-10-2024, 09:16 PM
I think it depends on who she is talking to


ADHD actually comes under the autism spectrum so as usual Ali is proven to be correct


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GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 09:16 PM
They don’t want to make the smoking area comfortable and housemates to spend too much time in there because it’s not being filmed for us to watch the lockers are so each house mate can keep their own smoke stuff safe

Yeah the lockers make sense ,but ....

I think it's a bad idea having a smoking hut to begin with, it's too much like a bizarre hideaway . Creep Marcello knew what he was doing,even though you can't swing a cat in there . And why was the camera footage so weak in quality ... It's giving 2001 old style.

Last year there must have been chairs or something,as I remember Olivia and her gang spending ages in there, but it was never filmed.

They should just do a open shelter or something,where they can have a roof over their head whilst smoking,but not a weird enclosed bit .

Zizu
12-10-2024, 09:20 PM
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He is a sex pest.
Thinks far too highly of himself and needs putting in his place.


They will have to remove him for everyone’s safety ( his included) if he continues in the same way.

I can’t imagine that he hasn’t been called into the diary room and TOLD to tone things down by the production team

Wether he is bright enough to adapt is up for discussion.

I don’t think he can help himself and will cross the line in the coming days


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thesheriff443
12-10-2024, 09:22 PM
Yeah the lockers make sense ,but ....

I think it's a bad idea having a smoking hut to begin with, it's too much like a bizarre hideaway . Creep Marcello knew what he was doing,even though you can't swing a cat in there . And why was the camera footage so weak in quality ... It's giving 2001 old style.

Last year there must have been chairs or something,as I remember Olivia and her gang spending ages in there, but it was never filmed.

They should just do a open shelter or something,where they can have a roof over their head whilst smoking,but not a weird enclosed bit .

You have answered your own question last year housemates spending too much time there so they made it small and dingy as for the camera because it’s not being filmed for the main show it’s not production quality camera

As to Marcello he does his smut all over the house so it’s not like that was his chance to pounce on her.

GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 09:32 PM
You have answered your own question last year housemates spending too much time there so they made it small and dingy as for the camera because it’s not being filmed for the main show it’s not production quality camera

As to Marcello he does his smut all over the house so it’s not like that was his chance to pounce on her.

Yeah I'm glad they came up with a solution to stop them spending too much time in there ,still a odd little hut / area though.

Marcello would never pounce on anyone in there , he just likes talking smut . And he never knows when to drop it ...hence why they should all tell him to grow up and not feed into it .

thesheriff443
12-10-2024, 09:35 PM
Yeah I'm glad they came up with a solution to stop them spending too much time in there ,still a odd little hut / area though.

Marcello would never pounce on anyone in there , he just likes talking smut . And he never knows when to drop it ...hence why they should all tell him to grow up and not feed into it .

It’s early days and a game
Enemies equals nominations

Deirdre
12-10-2024, 09:53 PM
Marcello is one of those guys that thinks he's smooth with women but is actually the opposite. He thinks saying that was funny but it had the opposite affect. If he said that to Rosie it would be different, she would find it funny. But Marcello views all women the same so didn't realize he can't say that to Ali who is gay, has a gf and on the spectrum. The joke failed terribly but it was harmless in intent

Zizu
12-10-2024, 09:57 PM
Marcello is one of those guys that thinks he's smooth with women but is actually the opposite. He thinks saying that was funny but it had the opposite affect. If he said that to Rosie it would be different, she would find it funny. But Marcello views all women the same so didn't realize he can't say that to Ali who is gay, has a gf and on the spectrum. The joke failed terribly but it was harmless in intent


He was softening up Rosie last night, bombarded her with compliments like ‘have you modelled ?’ and ‘ you are looking sooo beautiful tonight “ and she was lapping it up as she has such a low esteem . Then he turned to his usual smutty, suggestive stuff


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GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 10:00 PM
He was softening up Rosie last night, bombarded her with compliments like ‘have you modelled ?’ and ‘ you are looking sooo beautiful tonight “ and she was lapping it up as she has such a low esteem . Then he turned to his usual smutty, suggestive stuff


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He probably thinks he has a chance with baked potato,he has more chance with an actual potato .

She's polite and friendly so she will accept his compliments. She definitely isn't a fan when he turns sexual talk though. I think she knows he's an idiot .

caprimint
12-10-2024, 10:16 PM
Yeah definitely, he's creepy with any girl from what we've seen. You just know he could never have any girl "friends" bc he'd just try to get with any of them regardless of whether or not they were in a relationship or even if they were a lesbian it seems :skull:

GoldHeart
12-10-2024, 10:19 PM
Yeah definitely, he's creepy with any girl from what we've seen. You just know he could never have any girl "friends" bc he'd just try to get with any of them regardless of whether or not they were in a relationship or even if they were a lesbian it seems :skull:

It seems nothing puts him off , he's like a cringier version of Vincent Simone . But I think Vincent was more tongue in cheek with his flirting and less smutty.

Maru
12-10-2024, 10:31 PM
Marcello is one of those guys that thinks he's smooth with women but is actually the opposite. He thinks saying that was funny but it had the opposite affect. If he said that to Rosie it would be different, she would find it funny. But Marcello views all women the same so didn't realize he can't say that to Ali who is gay, has a gf and on the spectrum. The joke failed terribly but it was harmless in intent

It's hard for me to take any one specific event in offense as he seemingly tries to push lines every single time with sexual stuff. So I can't say his "intent" is this or that... basically, he's just Marcello... I would say it's victimless, but then we're sat here forced to sit through his cringe back to back so... it's probably not as intense in the house... one would hope.

Zizu
12-10-2024, 11:11 PM
It's hard for me to take any one specific event in offense as he seemingly tries to push lines every single time with sexual stuff. So I can't say his "intent" is this or that... basically, he's just Marcello... I would say it's victimless, but then we're sat here forced to sit through his cringe back to back so... it's probably not as intense in the house... one would hope.


Everything is intensified in the house !!


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Maru
12-10-2024, 11:32 PM
Everything is intensified in the house !!


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Yeah but more to focus on than just Marcello

Zizu
12-10-2024, 11:39 PM
Yeah but more to focus on than just Marcello


His behaviour is unpleasant for us to witness so just imagine living with it 24/7 day after day in a place where everything is heightened beyond belief

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rusticgal
12-10-2024, 11:44 PM
So far all his conversations aired are sexual innuendos…I cannot see that BB would deliberately make him out to be a sex pest if he is offering up other conversations…but obviously he isn’t…

He needs to go or be warned to reign it in…

Zizu
12-10-2024, 11:47 PM
So far all his conversations aired are sexual innuendos…I cannot see that BB would deliberately make him out to be a sex pest if he is offering up other conversations…but obviously he isn’t…

He needs to go or be warned to reign it in…


Maybe they are hoping he seals his own fate ..and boosts the viewing audience


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Maru
12-10-2024, 11:49 PM
His behaviour is unpleasant for us to witness so just imagine living with it 24/7 day after day in a place where everything is heightened beyond belief

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Right now there are enough people in there to run off and have conversations with that it's easier to not look like they are actively avoiding him. Imagine if there were fewer people in the house.

The cooking for the girls seems a nice ploy to force the women particularly to interact with him. But Sarah at least wasn't complaining on LF... and most seem to just be pretending he isn't making the commentary at this point. It's not like they're howling in laughter or anything when he's says sexy things... more like a polite "heh heh".

Zizu
12-10-2024, 11:54 PM
Right now there are enough people in there to run off and have conversations with that it's easier to not look like they are actively avoiding him. Imagine if there were fewer people in the house.

The cooking for the girls seems a nice ploy to force the women particularly to interact with him. But Sarah at least wasn't complaining on LF... and most seem to just be pretending he isn't making the commentary at this point. It's not like they're howling in laughter or anything when he's says sexy things... more like a polite "heh heh".


Then Marcello instigates some “play-fighting”
with Lily


Soooooo predictable

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Garfie
13-10-2024, 12:06 AM
ADHD actually comes under the autism spectrum so as usual Ali is proven to be correct


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ADHD and Autism are two separate conditions. You can just have one or the other on its own, or a combination of both. However, having one doesn’t actually mean you have both, even though there is an increasing awareness that there can be some overlap. (This comes from my understanding as a teacher with a specialism in students with social and emotional difficulties, neurodiverse conditions, mental health issues and other special needs.)

Zizu
13-10-2024, 12:13 AM
ADHD and Autism are two separate conditions. You can just have one or the other on its own, or a combination of both. However, having one doesn’t actually mean you have both, even though there is an increasing awareness that there can be some overlap. (This comes from my understanding as a teacher with a specialism in students with social and emotional difficulties, neurodiverse conditions, mental health issues and other special needs.)


ADHD and Autism are two separate conditions. You can just have one or the other on its own, or a combination of both. However, having one doesn’t actually mean you have both, even though there is an increasing awareness that there can be some overlap. (This comes from my understanding as a teacher with a specialism in students with social and emotional difficulties, neurodiverse conditions, mental health issues and other special needs.)


I concur with your statement

I read somewhere that ADHD now comes under the autism spectrum nowadays — which surprised me somewhat


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Garfie
13-10-2024, 12:23 AM
He was softening up Rosie last night, bombarded her with compliments like ‘have you modelled ?’ and ‘ you are looking sooo beautiful tonight “ and she was lapping it up as she has such a low esteem . Then he turned to his usual smutty, suggestive stuff


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That’s spot on. And the ‘compliments’ didn’t come across as genuine but more as tools to achieve certain aims. It’s sad that such false flattery and smutty comments seem to boost the confidence of women with low self-esteem, as it is worth nothing from such self-serving, shallow and vomit-inducing men like Marcelo.

Garfie
13-10-2024, 01:01 AM
I concur with your statement

I read somewhere that ADHD now comes under the autism spectrum nowadays — which surprised me somewhat


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There is definitely some merging of terminology - from my understanding, people who have characteristics of both conditions are now referred to as AuDHD, whereas they were previously recorded as ASD/ADHD or ADHD with Autistic tendencies or vice versa. It just means the terminology is more succinct.

However, the students I work with, in a mainstream setting, vary greatly. Many are purely Autistic and have no characteristics of ADHD, and in fact are hyper-focused and self-contained, rather than attention deficit of hyperactive.

Others are purely ADHD with no Autistic traits, and some are just ADD, so ADHD without the hyperactivity. ItÂ’s all very individual, and no two people with either or both of the conditions will present exactly the same, as there are so many different traits that form each condition, and individuals can have all or just some, and to varying degrees. People can have a diagnosis, but only by knowing and monitoring them very closely is it possible to identify the traits that are most prominent in them, and which pose the most difficulties.

If I was to make a guess at this stage, I would say Ali has these conditions to mild degree, with fewer tendencies than many. For me, she has shown the attention-deficit aspect of ADD, rather than the hyperactivity of ADHD. This might mean she needs longer to absorb or process information, especially in a social setting, whereas her Autistic tendencies would make it harder for her to read people and situations, due to a very literal understanding of language. This would explain why she took MarcelloÂ’s joke so seriously and why her response was slightly delayed.

Zizu
13-10-2024, 01:09 AM
There is definitely some merging of terminology - from my understanding, people who have characteristics of both conditions are now referred to as AuDHD, whereas they were previously recorded as ASD/ADHD or ADHD with Autistic tendencies or vice versa. It just means the terminology is more succinct.

However, the students I work with, in a mainstream setting, vary greatly. Many are purely Autistic and have no characteristics of ADHD, and in fact are hyper-focused and self-contained, rather than attention deficit of hyperactive.

Others are purely ADHD with no Autistic traits, and some are just ADD, so ADHD without the hyperactivity. ItÂ’s all very individual, and no two people with either or both of the conditions will present exactly the same, as there are so many different traits that form each condition, and individuals can have all or just some, and to varying degrees. People can have a diagnosis, but only by knowing and monitoring them very closely is it possible to identify the traits that are most prominent in them, and which pose the most difficulties.

If I was to make a guess at this stage, I would say Ali has these conditions to mild degree, with fewer tendencies than many. For me, she has shown the attention-deficit aspect of ADD, rather than the hyperactivity of ADHD. This might mean she needs longer to absorb or process information, especially in a social setting, whereas her Autistic tendencies would make it harder for her to read people and situations, due to a very literal understanding of language. This would explain why she took MarcelloÂ’s joke so seriously and why her response was slightly delayed.


Interesting !!

I noticed Ali looked extremely uncomfortable when they were doing the drag show and she was very reluctant to join in on the Conga

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Garfie
13-10-2024, 01:33 AM
Interesting !!

I noticed Ali looked extremely uncomfortable when they were doing the drag show and she was very reluctant to join in on the Conga

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Again, given her autistic traits, that wouldn’t surprise me. I know my Autistic kids don’t cope well with noise, crowds, too much movement around them or hectic situations, and many also have a greater need for personal space.

I had a student shut himself in a store cupboard because he was unable to cope with some chaos occurring outside of my classroom. The poor lad became totally overwhelmed, and needed to be coaxed out. Obviously, his Autism was more extreme than Ali’s, but they probably both find the same things triggering in terms of their sense of stability.