Punishment

[Kate!]

Daze and Lily chained to the stairs!

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[Crimson Dynamo]

More BDSM

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[Beso]

More BDSM

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:joker:

[Jordan.]

Will's comment about it making a change from her being chained to the M25 :skull:

[Cherie]

I think Lily has some special needs? she looks incredible vacant at times and eating bogeys and thinking it is okay, you work in the food industry, I would imagine sales will drop like a stone if she returns?

[Niamh.]

I think Lily has some special needs? she looks incredible vacant at times and eating bogeys and thinking it is okay, you work in the food industry, I would imagine sales will drop like a stone if she returns?Ew gross I hadn't even thought about that, hopefully she just takes the orders and isn't anywhere near the food

[Cherie]

Ew gross I hadn't even thought about that, hopefully she just takes the orders and isn't anywhere near the food

even if she is front of house, she is still there if you get what i mean handling food going out...like yuk

[Mystic Mock]

More BDSM

:omgno:

Sarah was wishing it was herself.

And Marcello was wishing it was Rosie.

[Garfie]

I think Lily has some special needs? she looks incredible vacant at times and eating bogeys and thinking it is okay, you work in the food industry, I would imagine sales will drop like a stone if she returns?

I have questioned that myself, Cherie, as I can’t quite work her out. However, despite suggesting she cannot follow intellectual discussions, she actually seems to have quite a wide vocabulary and is able to use it correctly, which isn’t typical of someone with special needs. I also think, that if she was truly special needs, the producers would be unlikely to select her as a housemate, as they would be bound by a duty of care.

The fact that she has been shown doing exactly as she claimed with the contents of her nose, though, and then suggesting in conversation that she had no awareness of an alternative way of dealing with the matter in hand (quite literally, in her case,) was pretty bizarre!

I’m finding myself questioning more and more whether a lot of this is an act, and if she is trying to present herself as a combination of successful housemates such as Nicky, Jade and ‘blinking’ Helen from Wales.

Something about her is just not adding up for me.

[GlitterUK]

I would rather they were up for eviction or cannot vote. Hardly a punishment getting more special airtime. Maybe if they banned them from talking to each other and others.

[Cherie]

I have questioned that myself, Cherie, as I can’t quite work her out. However, despite suggesting she cannot follow intellectual discussions, she actually seems to have quite a wide vocabulary and is able to use it correctly, which isn’t typical of someone with special needs. I also think, that if she was truly special needs, the producers would be unlikely to select her as a housemate, as they would be bound by a duty of care.

The fact that she has been shown doing exactly as she claimed with the contents of her nose, though, and then suggesting in conversation that she had no awareness of an alternative way of dealing with the matter in hand (quite literally, in her case,) was pretty bizarre!

I’m finding myself questioning more and more whether a lot of this is an act, and if she is trying to present herself as a combination of successful housemates such as Nicky, Jade and ‘blinking’ Helen from Wales.

Something about her is just not adding up for me.

Yeah Garfie I agree with all that

[Beso]

I have questioned that myself, Cherie, as I can’t quite work her out. However, despite suggesting she cannot follow intellectual discussions, she actually seems to have quite a wide vocabulary and is able to use it correctly, which isn’t typical of someone with special needs. I also think, that if she was truly special needs, the producers would be unlikely to select her as a housemate, as they would be bound by a duty of care.

The fact that she has been shown doing exactly as she claimed with the contents of her nose, though, and then suggesting in conversation that she had no awareness of an alternative way of dealing with the matter in hand (quite literally, in her case,) was pretty bizarre!

I’m finding myself questioning more and more whether a lot of this is an act, and if she is trying to present herself as a combination of successful housemates such as Nicky, Jade and ‘blinking’ Helen from Wales.

Something about her is just not adding up for me.




Shes more John mcrirrick than any them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Shes more John mcrirrick than any them.

:joker:

[joeysteele]

I think Lily has some special needs? she looks incredible vacant at times and eating bogeys and thinking it is okay, you work in the food industry, I would imagine sales will drop like a stone if she returns?

Ugh.
I never even thought of that or picked up on it.
Ugh

[Zizu]

I would rather they were up for eviction or cannot vote. Hardly a punishment getting more special airtime. Maybe if they banned them from talking to each other and others.


They should stop Daze from preaching and insist that she can only ask questions ..


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[Maru]

I would rather they were up for eviction or cannot vote. Hardly a punishment getting more special airtime. Maybe if they banned them from talking to each other and others.

Agreed. I liked the way it used to be done. They take away privileges only to return them within days it feels like. Oh you messed up and your food budget is basics? Aww.. We'll offer you a cake task with free cake in a day or so, no worries... we never really get to see the special effects of their bad decision-making anymore.

[rusticgal]

I would rather they were up for eviction or cannot vote. Hardly a punishment getting more special airtime. Maybe if they banned them from talking to each other and others.


Yup…you can imagine the opportunity for Lily to have another childlike meltdown opportunity…:sleep:

[GoldHeart]

Who even casually admits to those gross habits,what next is Lily going to confess to not washing her hands or not flushing the toilet :yuk:. How can people find this endearing?..... she's 20 acting like a literal toddler with who hasn't developed their skills yet .

Even Hannah described her as a health hazard.

Plus Lily started the rule break ,by asking Daze the question in the first place. Daze foolishly took the bait :bored: .

[Garfie]

Who even casually admits to those gross habits,what next is Lily going to confess to not washing her hands or not flushing the toilet :yuk:. How can people find this endearing?..... she's 20 acting like a literal toddler with who hasn't developed their skills yet .

Even Hannah described her as a health hazard.

Plus Lily started the rule break ,by asking Daze the question in the first place. Daze foolishly took the bait :bored: .

It’s not even that she is casually admitting to this gross habit - she is openly doing it in front of the other housemates, and has been caught doing so on camera!

[Mrluvaluva]

I don't think Lily has any learning disabilities. I just think she's socially unaware. I've seen some things where she's surprised me with her vocabulary or her understanding of certain things. I think she most probably has had quite a sheltered life and doesn't know how to conduct herself around other people. She's already said she doesn't have many friends and worries if people like her or not. This could be a learning curve for her. Some people develop slower than others.

The punishment was quite tame though. The chains weren't even short. Loads of room to move around. Lily and Daze treated it like a slumber party.

Thomas was pumping an airbed up and Daze was pulling it away to check it was inflating correctly. Obviously no experience of airbeds...

[Zizu]

I don't think Lily has any learning disabilities. I just think she's socially unaware. I've seen some things where she's surprised me with her vocabulary or her understanding of certain things. I think she most probably has had quite a sheltered life and doesn't know how to conduct herself around other people. She's already said she doesn't have many friends and worries if people like her or not. This could be a learning curve for her. Some people develop slower than others.

The punishment was quite tame though. The chains weren't even short. Loads of room to move around. Lily and Daze treated it like a slumber party.

Thomas was pumping an airbed up and Daze was pulling it away to check it was inflating correctly. Obviously no experience of airbeds...


I noticed that Daze was telling Lily to use alternate hands to pump up the bed , then feet then suggested she used her mouth o blow it up .. yet just sat there watching, chuckling out suggestions


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[Garfie]

I don't think Lily has any learning disabilities. I just think she's socially unaware. I've seen some things where she's surprised me with her vocabulary or her understanding of certain things. I think she most probably has had quite a sheltered life and doesn't know how to conduct herself around other people. She's already said she doesn't have many friends and worries if people like her or not. This could be a learning curve for her. Some people develop slower than others.

The punishment was quite tame though. The chains weren't even short. Loads of room to move around. Lily and Daze treated it like a slumber party.

Thomas was pumping an airbed up and Daze was pulling it away to check it was inflating correctly. Obviously no experience of airbeds...

I agree she seems socially unaware - in fact, for me, she is severely lacking in social skills for a 20 year old.

She doesn’t even seem to be aware of very basic norms of behaviour in a social setting. Yet, these are skills she surely would have been taught at home and would have been demonstrated, and expected of her, during her schooling?

If I had a child of any age behaving as Lily does, as a responsible parent, I would be addressing it for her own benefit, by setting expectations and boundaries to help her learn and control herself. Surely, as a parent, you would want her to learn age appropriate behaviour in order for her to be able to fit in, make friends and be accepted?

Part of me is truly wondering whether this is an act to gain airtime and make her stand out.

[Mrluvaluva]

I agree she seems socially unaware - in fact, for me, she is severely lacking in social skills for a 20 year old.

She doesn’t even seem to be aware of very basic norms of behaviour in a social setting. Yet, these are skills she surely would have been taught at home and would have been demonstrated, and expected of her, during her schooling?

If I had a child of any age behaving as Lily does, as a responsible parent, I would be addressing it for her own benefit, by setting expectations and boundaries to help her learn and control herself. Surely, as a parent, you would want her to learn age appropriate behaviour in order for her to be able to fit in, make friends and be accepted?

Part of me is truly wondering whether this is an act to gain airtime and make her stand out.


Yeah. I think she's most probably been sheltered from normal social settings, apart from going to college etc, but maybe she didn't have much interaction with other students? We don't know much about her upbringing but she has mentioned this is the first time away from her parents. She's calmed down a lot. The fact she asked Ali about nasal hygiene shows she hasn't been taught certain things and she just thinks picking her nose in front of others is socially acceptable. Sometimes she shows awareness about things going on in the world but other times not. She's a conundrum!

[Garfie]

:shrug:Yeah. I think she's most probably been sheltered from normal social settings, apart from going to college etc, but maybe she didn't have much interaction with other students? We don't know much about her upbringing but she has mentioned this is the first time away from her parents. She's calmed down a lot. The fact she asked Ali about nasal hygiene shows she hasn't been taught certain things and she just thinks picking her nose in front of others is socially acceptable. Sometimes she shows awareness about things going on in the world but other times not. She's a conundrum!

Conundrum! You’ve identified the perfect word to sum her up!

What 20 year old hasn’t been taught nasal hygiene!? :laugh:
What 20 year old believes it is the norm to pick her nose and eat it, especially in public, and on national television!!?
What 20 year old hasn’t been taught to use a tissue!? :laugh:
This surely can’t be real, can it!?

She says she has worked at the Chinese Takeaway for 6 years, which suggests she will have had lots of human interaction with colleagues and customers, and she must have demonstrated appropriate behaviour to have maintained a job for so long .

She has also had 13 years in school/college, and even if she didn’t make close friends, she will have observed social norms in others, and her teachers will certainly have addressed any inappropriate behaviour, and explained expectations!

And, surely, no family is going to ignore the behaviour she demonstrates!? I mean, how could anyone live with her noise and chaos, not to mention her nasal habits, without addressing it!!? :conf2:::yuk:

Something just doesn’t add up! It’s not normal! I’m bewildered! :shrug:

[Mrluvaluva]

:shrug:

Conundrum! You’ve identified the perfect word to sum her up!

What 20 year old hasn’t been taught nasal hygiene!? :laugh:
What 20 year old believes it is the norm to pick her nose and eat it, especially in public, and on national television!!?
What 20 year old hasn’t been taught to use a tissue!? :laugh:
This surely can’t be real, can it!?

She says she has worked at the Chinese Takeaway for 6 years, which suggests she will have had lots of human interaction with colleagues and customers, and she must have demonstrated appropriate behaviour to have maintained a job for so long .

She has also had 13 years in school/college, and even if she didn’t make close friends, she will have observed social norms in others, and her teachers will certainly have addressed any inappropriate behaviour, and explained expectations!

And, surely, no family is going to ignore the behaviour she demonstrates!? I mean, how could anyone live with her noise and chaos, not to mention her nasal habits, without addressing it!!? :conf2:::yuk:

Something just doesn’t add up! It’s not normal! I’m bewildered! :shrug:

I agree. I can't comment on her parenting as I have no idea how she was brought up but you would think she was taught some social etiquette. She just doesn't seem to know how to interact with others in a social setting and know what's acceptable. I can't decide. Surely someone can't keep up the pretence of being socially inept for so long? I just don't know.

[GoldHeart]

It’s not even that she is casually admitting to this gross habit - she is openly doing it in front of the other housemates, and has been caught doing so on camera!

Which is what a nursery child does who hasn't developed proper manners or social skills yet .she even fully spat food out on the first night ,when she was in storage. She doesn't seem to care ot understand how to behave around people.

[Garfie]

Which is what a nursery child does who hasn't developed proper manners or social skills yet .she even fully spat food out on the first night ,when she was in storage. She doesn't seem to care ot understand how to behave around people.

Yes, exactly! She behaves as a very young child would behave, yet she mentioned gambling away her student loan, which suggests she is someone who apparently has the intelligence, qualifications and ability to be accepted onto a university course. The two things don’t add up.

[Mrluvaluva]

Yes, exactly! She behaves as a very young child would behave, yet she mentioned gambling away her student loan, which suggests she is someone who apparently has the intelligence, qualifications and ability to be accepted onto a university course. The two things don’t add up.

And she's been banned from the inernet and can only buy scratch cards on a Saturday. She admitted she couldn't complete her first course as it was so hard for her. It seems she's incapable of living life on her own. It's hard to imagine.

[Garfie]

And she's been banned from the inernet and can only buy scratch cards on a Saturday. She admitted she couldn't complete her first course as it was so hard for her. It seems she's incapable of living life on her own. It's hard to imagine.

I understand that she found the first course at Uni too difficult, but to be accepted in the first place, she ie educated to A Level standard, and must have achieved pretty decent grades in order to gain a University place in the first place. In my experience, Unis tend to interview candidates before an offer is issued, so again, she must have presented appropriately during that.

The fact that she achieved good A Level grades suggests she must be able to be calm and focused to study, which would indicate an ability to control herself. She must also have the intellect necessary to learn and understand more complex concepts to be able to complete A Levels.

Therefore, it doesn’t make sense to me that she is presenting almost like a young child. It seems to indicate that she is picking and choosing how and when she behaves. This, to me, is the conundrum you identified.

[GoldHeart]

Yes, exactly! She behaves as a very young child would behave, yet she mentioned gambling away her student loan, which suggests she is someone who apparently has the intelligence, qualifications and ability to be accepted onto a university course. The two things don’t add up.

Yeah i'm very sceptical,so either it's all about act or something doesn't add up. Is the university story an exaggeration....I wonder :suspect: .

Conditions like "special needs" & "ADHD" are being thrown around...and I do wonder if Lily has some type of learning need,but like we said it doesn't add up .

it's just strange that the actual person with a condition is cool as a cucumber aka Ali , infact she's almost icy lol.

[rusticgal]

And she's been banned from the inernet and can only buy scratch cards on a Saturday. She admitted she couldn't complete her first course as it was so hard for her. It seems she's incapable of living life on her own. It's hard to imagine.



Which is why we should take some responsibility and not let her walk off as the winner with that amount of money...:nono:

[Beso]

And she's been banned from the inernet and can only buy scratch cards on a Saturday. She admitted she couldn't complete her first course as it was so hard for her. It seems she's incapable of living life on her own. It's hard to imagine.



Her actual course at university tells us all we need to know about her aspirations.

[GoldHeart]

Which is why we should take some responsibility and not let her walk off as the winner with that amount of money...:nono:

And you know what she'll still win it ,it will be seen as a 'laugh', for someone that childish to win :notimpressed: .

[Mrluvaluva]

Her actual course at university tells us all we need to know about her aspirations.

Oh we know her aspirations. Just to keep working at the Chinese Takeaway forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.

[Mrluvaluva]

Which is why we should take some responsibility and not let her walk off as the winner with that amount of money...:nono:

Off to Ibiza in a private jet to gamble it all away. Don't think she'll have much change...

[GoldHeart]

Oh we know her aspirations. Just to keep working at the Chinese Takeaway forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.

Which would suggest little goals and no ambition or aspirations,yet she went to university :conf::huh:.

Obviously if you're happy in any job , there's nothing wrong with wanting to keep/ stay in that job for however long . But it's weird how she acts like she can't see beyond "Chinese takeaway", and it seems her mother needs to watch over her spending aswell...if she's so reckless with money & gambling. She doesn't sound like she knows how to be independent.