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Benjamin
13-10-2024, 02:09 PM
Tonight’s show will highlight tensions between the two again.
Ali called him out about some of his false behaviours; lacking empathy and yawning/being bored during the eviction but then checking in on everyone to see if they’re ok. This led her to feeling as though he is being false. Apparently Khaled admitted he was like that during the eviction.
Crimson Dynamo
13-10-2024, 02:17 PM
who the hell does she think she is??
concentrate on yourself luv and stop marking housemates out of 10 based on your own criteria
the bloody nerve of the woman
:mad:
Benjamin
13-10-2024, 02:18 PM
who the hell does she think she is??
concentrate on yourself luv and stop marking housemates out of 10 based on your own criteria
the bloody nerve of the woman
:mad:
Looking at the latest BB vid looks like it’s a lot of the ladies feeling this way about him.
Crimson Dynamo
13-10-2024, 02:31 PM
Looking at the latest BB vid looks like it’s a lot of the ladies feeling this way about him.
How he reacts to an eviction is none of their business
who the hell does she think she is??
concentrate on yourself luv and stop marking housemates out of 10 based on your own criteria
the bloody nerve of the woman
:mad:
I thought you liked characters, interesting outspoken individuals ..
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rusticgal
13-10-2024, 03:46 PM
Tonight’s show will highlight tensions between the two again.
Ali called him out about some of his false behaviours; lacking empathy and yawning/being bored during the eviction but then checking in on everyone to see if they’re ok. This led her to feeling as though he is being false. Apparently Khaled admitted he was like that during the eviction.
....but she adores Lily :joker:
BigAsher
13-10-2024, 03:47 PM
They'll never make me hate you, Ali.
Tonight’s show will highlight tensions between the two again.
Ali called him out about some of his false behaviours; lacking empathy and yawning/being bored during the eviction but then checking in on everyone to see if they’re ok. This led her to feeling as though he is being false. Apparently Khaled admitted he was like that during the eviction.
If all the above is correct then Khaled is indeed out of order
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rusticgal
13-10-2024, 03:48 PM
Ali does seem a little obsessed with 'fake' people...
They'll never make me hate you, Ali.
Yeah
How could you !!
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Looking at the latest BB vid looks like it’s a lot of the ladies feeling this way about him.
…yeah, in the Peek vid today it was Lily who mentioned her doubts first about Khaled and thought she was the only one…Ali confirmed that she had doubts as well but hadn’t she already voiced that to Khaled directly anyway…
They'll never make me hate you, Ali.
…:laugh:…:love:…
With all due respect, is someone with adhd really the best judge of character.
BigAsher
13-10-2024, 04:14 PM
With all due respect, is someone with adhd really the best judge of character.With no respect at all, you obviously aren't the best judge of character.
GoldHeart
13-10-2024, 04:16 PM
Looking at the latest BB vid looks like it’s a lot of the ladies feeling this way about him.
I guess Khaled is getting nominated this week, can you imagine if they all gang up on him,whilst letting Marcello escape nominations... despite Marcello being the one who's actually annoyed them :bored: .
With no respect at all, you obviously aren't the best judge of character.
All my bb favourites in all the bb years I've picked a favourite, have finished top 3.
I thank you for your complaint though.
GoldHeart
13-10-2024, 04:25 PM
Looking at the latest BB vid looks like it’s a lot of the ladies feeling this way about him.
Ali does seem a little obsessed with 'fake' people...
She needs to stop banging on about who is fake. I haven't seen her enjoy anything yet.
She needs to stop banging on about who is fake. I haven't seen her enjoy anything yet.
I’m not sure enjoyment is an option and without thinking about it I don’t t think I can explain my comment..
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With all due respect, is someone with adhd really the best judge of character.
Quite possibly yes
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Quite possibly yes
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People with ADHD often have very strong moral convictions, and feel a strong need to uphold them. This can make them very quick to judge others who they perceive as behaving unfairly or unjustly
People with ADHD often have very strong moral convictions, and feel a strong need to uphold them. This can make them very quick to judge others who they perceive as behaving unfairly or unjustly
I concur but people can also change their views on people/things ..
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GoldHeart
13-10-2024, 04:39 PM
I’m not sure enjoyment is an option and without thinking about it I don’t t think I can explain my comment..
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I think she's being harsh on Khaled.
rusticgal
13-10-2024, 04:47 PM
With all due respect, is someone with adhd really the best judge of character.
I believe my son has ADHD and he is a good judge of character Tbf.
I think she's being harsh on Khaled.
Maybe so , maybe she’s just guarded
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I believe my son has ADHD and he is a good judge of character Tbf.
Very possible
An attention to detail should be a plus in judging character - I notice things about people that they don’t even notice themselves
When I am watching a footie game on telly and someone comes on as a substitute.. I can tell within seconds who the new player is by his gait ( the way he runs ) when the camera shows play from a distance .
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I believe my son has ADHD and he is a good judge of character Tbf.
It should bode him well in the future.
On the one hand she talks about how her ADHD can make interactions challenging and also goes on about how everyone's own way of experiencing things is the most valid etc. and yet she is being very judgey and cynical towards other housemates for how they express themselves and questions their authenticity. If anyone did the same to her she'd no doubt feel outraged
On the one hand she talks about how her ADHD can make interactions challenging and also goes on about how everyone's own way of experiencing things is the most valid etc. and yet she is being very judgey and cynical towards other housemates for how they express themselves and questions their authenticity. If anyone did the same to her she'd no doubt feel outraged
Well she’s not perfect ( ok lookswise she may be lol)
I’d guess her mind is overworking/overheating, constantly contemplating everything that she is seeing and hearing and then trying to make sense of each thing by applying everything she has learnt and studied and experienced over the years
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Oliver_W
13-10-2024, 05:10 PM
If all the above is correct then Khaled is indeed out of order
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Why though? He might not have personally cared about who left, but he could probably see that other people wanted comforting. Or maybe he felt bad for how he came off, and was trying to make up for it.
Why though? He might not have personally cared about who left, but he could probably see that other people wanted comforting. Or maybe he felt bad for how he came off, and was trying to make up for it.
Maybe so
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thesheriff443
13-10-2024, 05:20 PM
Maybe so
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The thing is as we have seen before you are completely invested in Ali and will challenge any negativity that is raised in any future threads
GoldHeart
13-10-2024, 05:20 PM
Why though? He might not have personally cared about who left, but he could probably see that other people wanted comforting. Or maybe he felt bad for how he came off, and was trying to make up for it.
Well judging by L& L exclusive all the housemates must be a bunch of heartless Bstrds then ,why is Khaled getting singled out :shrug:. Will Best even joked on L& L to Ryan he was like " sorry mate they've moved on" . Martha had the biggest grin on her face like she was glad Ryan had gone .
The thing is as we have seen before you are completely invested in Ali and will challenge any negativity that is raised in any future threads
Until I am proved wrong .. probably so
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thesheriff443
13-10-2024, 05:24 PM
Until I am proved wrong .. probably so
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No probably about it
You can’t help yourself
No probably about it
You can’t help yourself
True enough
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Well judging by L& L exclusive all the housemates must be a bunch of heartless Bstrds then ,why is Khaled getting singled out :shrug:. Will Best even joked on L& L to Ryan he was like " sorry mate they've moved on" . Martha had the biggest grin on her face like she was glad Ryan had gone .
I remember remarking in the main episode thread that it was such a bizarrely tepid reaction from everyone involved. Ryan reacted like he knew it was coming, which is fair enough, but everyone else didn't even seem to bother with making the customary song and dance about it. Very strange eviction.
GoldHeart
13-10-2024, 05:46 PM
I remember remarking in the main episode thread that it was such a bizarrely tepid reaction from everyone involved. Ryan reacted like he knew it was coming, which is fair enough, but everyone else didn't even seem to bother with making the customary song and dance about it. Very strange eviction.
Exactly
Ryan definitely knew he was going.
smudgie
13-10-2024, 05:59 PM
Khaled really got up housemates noses last night.
Lots of muttering about it.
Azeez was pulled up by Khaled for not being in his corner re the argument.
I think he had a go at Lilly as well.
He has dropped from my top three, very disappointing the way he was handling the situation.
GoldGlitter
13-10-2024, 06:51 PM
Khaled really got up housemates noses last night.
Lots of muttering about it.
Azeez was pulled up by Khaled for not being in his corner re the argument.
I think he had a go at Lilly as well.
He has dropped from my top three, very disappointing the way he was handling the situation.
Wish I could have seen the whole thing play out. They're bound to show it on the highlights.
vesavius
13-10-2024, 07:18 PM
Mother Superior Ali was sent to Earth to judge us all.
Apparently.
GoldHeart
13-10-2024, 07:19 PM
Mother Superior Ali was sent to Earth to judge us all.
Apparently.
I liked her to start with,but I feel she may be judgemental and a bit bitchy .
ThomasC
13-10-2024, 07:33 PM
who the hell does she think she is??
concentrate on yourself luv and stop marking housemates out of 10 based on your own criteria
the bloody nerve of the woman
:mad:
Calm down, she's allowed to make a judgement based on what she has seen
With all due respect, is someone with adhd really the best judge of character.
Bizarre thing to say
Adamw92
13-10-2024, 07:49 PM
Looks like Khaled might get a few nominations this week
GoldHeart
13-10-2024, 07:50 PM
Looks like Khaled might get a few nominations this week
If Khaled gets nominations whilst Marcello gets none,it will be a massive joke :bored: .
Adamw92
13-10-2024, 07:56 PM
If Khaled gets nominations whilst Marcello gets none,it will be a massive joke :bored: .
I think we’re stuck with Marcello for a few more weeks :bored:
vesavius
13-10-2024, 08:18 PM
On the one hand she talks about how her ADHD can make interactions challenging and also goes on about how everyone's own way of experiencing things is the most valid etc. and yet she is being very judgey and cynical towards other housemates for how they express themselves and questions their authenticity. If anyone did the same to her she'd no doubt feel outraged
Truth
fredmeneedle
13-10-2024, 09:27 PM
I guess Khaled is getting nominated this week, can you imagine if they all gang up on him,whilst letting Marcello escape nominations... despite Marcello being the one who's actually annoyed them :bored: .
Khaled is immune as HoH... pay attention!
Crimson Dynamo
13-10-2024, 09:35 PM
News flash
They are arguing as I type
Khaled has now stormed off
(Livestream)
News flash
They are arguing as I type
Khaled has now stormed off
(Livestream)
Has live stream started already !!!!!?
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Calm down, she's allowed to make a judgement based on what she has seen
Bizarre thing to say
People with ADHD often have very strong moral convictions, and feel a strong need to uphold them. This can make them very quick to judge others who they perceive as behaving unfairly or unjustly
GlitterUK
13-10-2024, 10:18 PM
Ali really went down in my estimations tonight. The way she treated Khaled was awful.
rusticgal
13-10-2024, 10:20 PM
I liked her to start with,but I feel she may be judgemental and a bit bitchy .
Me too…
GlitterUK
13-10-2024, 10:37 PM
She comes across as a mean girl. I also think she is playing Lily.
She comes across as a mean girl. I also think she is playing Lily.
Switch on live stream
Wicked Ali is comforting a distraught Daze ..
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ThomasC
13-10-2024, 10:40 PM
People with ADHD often have very strong moral convictions, and feel a strong need to uphold them. This can make them very quick to judge others who they perceive as behaving unfairly or unjustly
Right OKay,........
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vesavius
14-10-2024, 12:29 AM
She comes across as a mean girl. I also think she is playing Lily.
yep yep.
GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 05:29 AM
It's official
I now dislike Ali ,what ashame ...this one actually hurts as I was really hoping she'd be a breath of fresh air . And I liked how composed and intelligent she initially was.
But she's just a ice cold bitch , that conversation she had with Khaled was dreadful to the ears ,and it was the most pointless tone deaf thing.
she wasn't taking on board a word he said, she's made a snap judgement of him out of nowhere. Even when he tried apologising,she just shut him down and walked off in a very weird passive aggressive way. She's made up her mind about him...and she clearly won't give him a chance.
Does she think she's above him ? . She's stuck up and seems to have a permanent scowl on her face . If she wants to psycho analyse the housemates, maybe she should try and apply for the therapist job next time on L& L ...but somehow I think Judi James' job is safe... So Judi has nothing to worry about.
Only time I've seen Ali crack a smile is when Nathan broke wind . She really is a sour lemon :bored: .
…I’m not going to dislike Ali after one highlight show and one conversation…and I don’t think either she or Khaled looked great from it all…but I’m thinking more that she’s not really someone who can easily be part of a group…I wonder as a psychologist, how she would analyse herself…
It's official
I now dislike Ali ,what ashame ...this one actually hurts as I was really hoping she'd be a breath of fresh air . And I liked how composed and intelligent she initially was.
Only time I've seen Ali crack a smile is when Nathan broke wind . She really is a sour lemon :bored: .
People with autism may have difficulty making appropriate facial expressions, including smiling, at the right times:
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Crimson Dynamo
14-10-2024, 08:09 AM
People with autism may have difficulty making appropriate facial expressions, including smiling, at the right times:
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Lol
who smiles at the right time?
that is totally subjective
GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 08:11 AM
People with autism may have difficulty making appropriate facial expressions, including smiling, at the right times:
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I appreciate that,but she really hasn't helped herself... especially in last night's HL . It seems more arguments and cold behaviour is to come.
Lol
who smiles at the right time?
that is totally subjective
Its not MY view - it was copied and pasted.
It is a well accepted autistic trait
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Right OKay,........
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Dont you believe me
ThomasC
14-10-2024, 11:18 AM
Dont you believe me
I don't agree or disagree on that statement tbh.
I think sometimes we can easily blur the lines and look into things too deeply, ADHD or not.
I think she had an opinion and expressed it rather well. Whether it was a 'fair' opinion I do not know. We only see very little
Glenn.
14-10-2024, 02:28 PM
I’d say she has more experience working someone out than most people in there, and on here tbh.
GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 02:29 PM
I don't agree or disagree on that statement tbh.
I think sometimes we can easily blur the lines and look into things too deeply, ADHD or not.
I think she had an opinion and expressed it rather well. Whether it was a 'fair' opinion I do not know. We only see very little
I disagree about her ' expressing it well', that conversation she had with Khaled was just her talking at him in a very clinical passive aggressive way. I could feel Khaled's confusion & frustration through the screen, she walked away in such a dismissive way ...and had a final sarcastic tone towards him.
She is making herself come across as unfeeling and cold, and it'a not a good look.
vesavius
14-10-2024, 02:41 PM
It's official
I now dislike Ali ,what ashame ...this one actually hurts as I was really hoping she'd be a breath of fresh air . And I liked how composed and intelligent she initially was.
But she's just a ice cold bitch , that conversation she had with Khaled was dreadful to the ears ,and it was the most pointless tone deaf thing.
she wasn't taking on board a word he said, she's made a snap judgement of him out of nowhere. Even when he tried apologising,she just shut him down and walked off in a very weird passive aggressive way. She's made up her mind about him...and she clearly won't give him a chance.
Does she think she's above him ? . She's stuck up and seems to have a permanent scowl on her face . If she wants to psycho analyse the housemates, maybe she should try and apply for the therapist job next time on L& L ...but somehow I think Judi James' job is safe... So Judi has nothing to worry about.
Only time I've seen Ali crack a smile is when Nathan broke wind . She really is a sour lemon :bored: .
Yes :dance::dance:
ThomasC
14-10-2024, 07:30 PM
I disagree about her ' expressing it well', that conversation she had with Khaled was just her talking at him in a very clinical passive aggressive way. I could feel Khaled's confusion & frustration through the screen, she walked away in such a dismissive way ...and had a final sarcastic tone towards him.
She is making herself come across as unfeeling and cold, and it'a not a good look.
Disagree.
She was very clear on what she said. She had nothing else to say so that was it. People don't always like the forward approach.
He was frustrated because he's a people pleaser. He wanted to resolve it, but Ali didn't particularly want to, that's how she felt
To sit there and slate someones personality, then just get up and walk out when they try to defend themselves is the act of a cold and callous individual.
To sit there and slate someones personality, then just get up and walk out when they try to defend themselves is the act of a cold and callous individual.
:wavey:
Exactly - and she did it in front of other people too when she should have asked to speak to him in private.
Niamh.
14-10-2024, 09:09 PM
Not a good show tonight for Ali. Khaled really defended himself well though I thought and Ali knew it too. Gone right off her
Benjamin
14-10-2024, 09:10 PM
Not a good show tonight for Ali. Khaled really defended himself well though I thought and Ali knew it too. Gone right off her
Yeah, she was really on him. He had to make a choice and he gave his reason for doing so.
Niamh.
14-10-2024, 09:19 PM
Yeah, she was really on him. He had to make a choice and he gave his reason for doing so.The cheek of her as well saying that he was trying to villainise her after she called him fake the night before, glad he said that too
Not a good show tonight for Ali. Khaled really defended himself well though I thought and Ali knew it too. Gone right off her
When Ali went to nominate Khaled immunity said proudly to the person next to him that if someone ( Ali) attacks him he will retaliate harder .. is that a good look ?
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Not a good show tonight for Ali. Khaled really defended himself well though I thought and Ali knew it too. Gone right off her
Yeah she looked butthurt when he was up speaking giving his reasons. Not exactly showing that was she open to anything he was saying, more like "ewww"...
Dogeatdog
14-10-2024, 09:21 PM
The cheek of her as well saying that he was trying to villainise her after she called him fake the night before, glad he said that too
Yep I thought this too. She didn’t really have a response to this because it was true so I’m glad that he pointed this out.
eternal
14-10-2024, 09:47 PM
Yep I thought this too. She didn’t really have a response to this because it was true so I’m glad that he pointed this out.
Khaled ethered her in that interaction on the sofa. I was pleasantly surprised. She's a complete hypocrite.
GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 09:51 PM
Khaled ethered her in that interaction on the sofa. I was pleasantly surprised. She's a complete hypocrite.
He's 23 and showed alot more maturity and intelligence in his little toe ,than she had in her whole being. She's basically hot air of psycho babble :idc: .
Niamh.
14-10-2024, 09:57 PM
When Ali went to nominate Khaled immunity said proudly to the person next to him that if someone ( Ali) attacks him he will retaliate harder .. is that a good look ?
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Absolutely, you don't believe in defending yourself?
It just didn’t sit right as he said it
This person explains it better - especially the last sentence
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Is Khaled not proving Ali’s point with that statement “it’s hard to do good things. Everyone’s got selfish desires. God know I wanna say some **** […] If someone starts throwing daggers at me, I throw a lot harder. I’ve been nice and smiley but ….. “
[emoji848] #BBUK
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GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 11:47 PM
It just didn’t sit right as he said it
This person explains it better - especially the last sentence
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Is Khaled not proving Ali’s point with that statement “it’s hard to do good things. Everyone’s got selfish desires. God know I wanna say some **** […] If someone starts throwing daggers at me, I throw a lot harder. I’ve been nice and smiley but ….. “
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No it doesn't
He's human,we all have a breaking point...I'm sure even Rosie would snap if she was pushed hard enough,and she's the most happy go lucky housemate in there ,they all must get angry and upset.
No it doesn't
He's human,we all have a breaking point...I'm sure even Rosie would snap if she was pushed hard enough,and she's the most happy go lucky housemate in there ,they all must get angry and upset.
He actually said he’d been nice and smiley but. … meaning he hasn’t been showing his true emotions/feelings .
Isn’t that exactly what Ali accused him of doing?
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GlitterUK
14-10-2024, 11:58 PM
I hope he continues to handle Ali the way he has done, he has showed her up for being cold and calculating. He has dealt with the matter really well. Ali is 38 and been really awful towards him.
GoldHeart
15-10-2024, 12:18 AM
I hope he continues to handle Ali the way he has done, he has showed her up for being cold and calculating. He has dealt with the matter really well. Ali is 38 and been really awful towards him.
He's actually proved he's more mature aswell, I'm pleased he stood up to her .
AnnieK
15-10-2024, 06:09 AM
From what Ali said in the diary room last night about her girlfriend and family being disappointed she hasn't flown under the radar and said all the right things to stay in, she's a bit pissed that Khaled is managing to do just that and so she is going after him.
Just my take on it and I could be way off. I do wish Ali would just take a breath, stop analysing everything and try and enjoy it. She's a great housemate but she is going to ruin her own experience if she doesn't chill a little
From what Ali said in the diary room last night about her girlfriend and family being disappointed she hasn't flown under the radar and said all the right things to stay in, she's a bit pissed that Khaled is managing to do just that and so she is going after him.
Just my take on it and I could be way off. I do wish Ali would just take a breath, stop analysing everything and try and enjoy it. She's a great housemate but she is going to ruin her own experience if she doesn't chill a little
Loads of people online suggesting Ali may have quit last night hence no live stream
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AnnieK
15-10-2024, 06:26 AM
Loads of people online suggesting Ali may have quit last night hence no live stream
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That will be a real shame if she has.
I don't like it when anyone quits
Benjamin
15-10-2024, 06:32 AM
Loads of people online suggesting Ali may have quit last night hence no live stream
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Ajay confirmed she hadn’t though.
From what Ali said in the diary room last night about her girlfriend and family being disappointed she hasn't flown under the radar and said all the right things to stay in, she's a bit pissed that Khaled is managing to do just that and so she is going after him.
Just my take on it and I could be way off. I do wish Ali would just take a breath, stop analysing everything and try and enjoy it. She's a great housemate but she is going to ruin her own experience if she doesn't chill a little
…yeah, I think this take also…I’m not sure though because of her tendency to overthink so much, whether she would be able to continue and settle and chill because I don’t think she can help herself, either….but time will tell as you say…(…if she’s neither evicted or walks…)…
Crimson Dynamo
15-10-2024, 07:34 AM
Ajay confirmed she hadn’t though.
and we saw in the house live at 10.45pm
thesheriff443
15-10-2024, 07:49 AM
Ali in the diary room was self indulgent waffle
I could of said all the right things and my housemates and public would of swallowed it whole because I’m that good
I think with Kahled, Ali has a pre conceived perception of the way muslim men are with women and she is trying in her head to justify her hatred of muslim men by nit picking at kahled and everything he says.
Anyway, I hope she walks to save us a boring interview.
Garfie
15-10-2024, 07:56 AM
It's official
I now dislike Ali ,what ashame ...this one actually hurts as I was really hoping she'd be a breath of fresh air . And I liked how composed and intelligent she initially was.
But she's just a ice cold bitch , that conversation she had with Khaled was dreadful to the ears ,and it was the most pointless tone deaf thing.
she wasn't taking on board a word he said, she's made a snap judgement of him out of nowhere. Even when he tried apologising,she just shut him down and walked off in a very weird passive aggressive way. She's made up her mind about him...and she clearly won't give him a chance.
Does she think she's above him ? . She's stuck up and seems to have a permanent scowl on her face . If she wants to psycho analyse the housemates, maybe she should try and apply for the therapist job next time on L& L ...but somehow I think Judi James' job is safe... So Judi has nothing to worry about.
Only time I've seen Ali crack a smile is when Nathan broke wind . She really is a sour lemon :bored: .
I can understand your response, as even though I understand why Ali might have behaved as she did, on this occasion, I don’t think she handled the situation well, and I didn’t like how she made her accusations and humiliated Khaled in a very public way, even though to her, she probably perceived her behaviour as honest, genuine and direct.
If she felt this way, it would have been kinder and more appropriate to have discussed it with Khaled in a personal, rather than public setting.
I do kind of agree that her perception of Khaled has been influenced and formed with her professional head on, rather than from norms of behaviour in a social setting - the first approach of which she would find a confident and comfortable way of thinking, whilst the second would be much more difficult for her to understand. Autistic people can become quite fixated on an idea, and I feel that Ali has made a judgement of Khaled that she cannot now shake off, and which might influence her perception of everything he does in future. I don’t personally agree with her perception, or find her judgement justified.
Even though I might understand why she may have behaved as she did, I don’t believe she chose the right approach on this occasion, and I do wonder whether she might recognise that when she has had some time to think.
Benjamin
15-10-2024, 08:51 AM
and we saw in the house live at 10.45pm
True.
Niamh.
15-10-2024, 09:24 AM
It just didn’t sit right as he said it
This person explains it better - especially the last sentence
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Is Khaled not proving Ali’s point with that statement “it’s hard to do good things. Everyone’s got selfish desires. God know I wanna say some **** […] If someone starts throwing daggers at me, I throw a lot harder. I’ve been nice and smiley but ….. “
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It says absolutely nothing of the sort, he's saying if someone attacks his character he will do that same. Wouldn't most people stick up for themselves?
Niamh.
15-10-2024, 09:25 AM
He actually said he’d been nice and smiley but. … meaning he hasn’t been showing his true emotions/feelings .
Isn’t that exactly what Ali accused him of doing?
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That's not at all what that means, he had no reason not to be nice and smiley until someone called him fake
GoldHeart
15-10-2024, 11:15 AM
I can understand your response, as even though I understand why Ali might have behaved as she did, on this occasion, I don’t think she handled the situation well, and I didn’t like how she made her accusations and humiliated Khaled in a very public way, even though to her, she probably perceived her behaviour as honest, genuine and direct.
If she felt this way, it would have been kinder and more appropriate to have discussed it with Khaled in a personal, rather than public setting.
I do kind of agree that her perception of Khaled has been influenced and formed with her professional head on, rather than from norms of behaviour in a social setting - the first approach of which she would find a confident and comfortable way of thinking, whilst the second would be much more difficult for her to understand. Autistic people can become quite fixated on an idea, and I feel that Ali has made a judgement of Khaled that she cannot now shake off, and which might influence her perception of everything he does in future. I don’t personally agree with her perception, or find her judgement justified.
Even though I might understand why she may have behaved as she did, I don’t believe she chose the right approach on this occasion, and I do wonder whether she might recognise that when she has had some time to think.
I appreciate your response Garfie :wavey:
I know Ali is on the spectrum , but It also feels like she can't just accept that Khaled might just be a normal guy . She seems to be dissecting him constantly, she needs to stop analysing him .
I joked in another thread ...that if BB allowed writing tools , she'd probably be robotically nodding her head
whilst jotting down notes as Khaled is trying to get his
point across.
She may think she's giving her honest direct opinion, but the third degree she's now giving Khaled over his nomination twist - decision is just ridiculous,the guy had to choose something,and either way people would be complaining . A damned if he does & damned if he doesn't situation :shrug:.
And now hearing on L& L exclusive that Ali was threatening to leave, I'm sorry it just gives me " my game plan failed " energy . I don't think she expected Khaled to stand up to her in such a strong mature way . She obviously sees him as a silly boy or something. But I think he acted alot better than she did ,he explained his reasons. And you can tell it's frustrating for him to constantly be attacked.
He was even trying to persuade her to stay , but I guess she wanted her melodramatic moment. Plus she's still running away from Khaled & dismissing him . He was trying to put their differences aside by looks of it. She's being so difficult.
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