View Full Version : Absolutely baffled by the Khaled hate
Yes the guy can be cringe and yes he probably is laying it on a bit thick atm which could be for any number of reasons.
But fundamentally he's clearly a decent guy who has barely said a bad word against anyone. I do not understand why he's such fair game for being attacked and bitched about with such viciousness. Ali is fully on a mission to turn the whole house against him having already manipulated Lily into thinking that way. Apparently if Ali says it it must be true cos she can read minds.
Given Ali is also 15 years his senior it's a really bad look that she's trying to repress his personality and make him doubt the whole way he conducts himself. It's awful behaviour
Benjamin
13-10-2024, 09:04 PM
I think Ali is right, given the way Khaled was with Izaaz. However, her execution with it wasn’t great.
Crimson Dynamo
13-10-2024, 09:05 PM
Agreed
It's bullying
I haven’t seen enough of him to say if he’s false or not, but he's incredibly dull
I don't even think Khaled did anything wrong with Izaaz either tbh, he only said that he had to agree that the vibes were off - which is absolutely true given they'd all been bitching about Khaled 5 minutes earlier
Honestly, i think they are both at it, neither is particularly benefiting and if they keep it up they will be nominated quickly
Mrluvaluva
13-10-2024, 09:12 PM
One things for sure, Khaled will have Ali in his sights now. Depends what his "power" will be. She could be in the danger zone nomination wise.
At least she spoke to him about it. She's honest and not just bitching behind his back.
..no, I think there are a few of them being quite brutal and cold which is coming across as cruel..?…but Ryan just said similar on the Live show that Khaled might say the ‘right things’ but he goes into so much detail that it feels that he’s saying things because he feels they’re the right things to say …that he’s fake because it’s all gameplaying, essentially…
One things for sure, Khaled will have Ali in his sights now. Depends what his "power" will be. She could be in the danger zone nomination wise.
At least she spoke to him about it. She's honest and not just bitching behind his back.
…yeah, she seemed quite up for telling him actually…:laugh:…very cold/very unfeeling and emotionless and not a good look for her…
Poor bloke cant even enjoy being HOH, cause miss bitter face poo pood all the fun again.
Crimson Dynamo
13-10-2024, 09:15 PM
His crime was he did not react the way Sly Ali wanted him too...
I mean wtf
I don't even think Khaled did anything wrong with Izaaz either tbh, he only said that he had to agree that the vibes were off - which is absolutely true given they'd all been bitching about Khaled 5 minutes earlier
…no, he said if he didn’t agree with him then he would be lying/…agree with me or you’re not credible..…it’s not up to Khaled or anyone else to speak for Izaaz, only Izaaz can do that …
Dogeatdog
13-10-2024, 09:17 PM
He shouldn’t have gone upstairs and said what he said. I think his intentions were good but it made him look worse.
Vanessa
13-10-2024, 09:18 PM
He's definitely overdoing the nice guy act.
Mrluvaluva
13-10-2024, 09:18 PM
…yeah, she seemed quite up for telling him actually…:laugh:…very cold/very unfeeling and emotionless and not a good look for her…
She definitely could have handled it better. She had her say and then walked off. It didn't really diffuse the situation and she's left Khaled slightly paranoid. He's not going to enjoy his HOH role.
Well, at least he knows he can't trust Ali.
fredmeneedle
13-10-2024, 09:20 PM
Yes the guy can be cringe and yes he probably is laying it on a bit thick atm which could be for any number of reasons.
But fundamentally he's clearly a decent guy who has barely said a bad word against anyone. I do not understand why he's such fair game for being attacked and bitched about with such viciousness. Ali is fully on a mission to turn the whole house against him having already manipulated Lily into thinking that way. Apparently if Ali says it it must be true cos she can read minds.
Given Ali is also 15 years his senior it's a really bad look that she's trying to repress his personality and make him doubt the whole way he conducts himself. It's awful behaviour
If Izaaz had just kept his big gob shut, there wouldn't have been a confrontation...it was only his **** stirring with Ali that prompted her to go and confront him
Crimson Dynamo
13-10-2024, 09:21 PM
She definitely could have handled it better. She had her say and then walked off. It didn't really diffuse the situation and she's left Khaled slightly paranoid. He's not going to enjoy his HOH role.
And that was deliberate and downright nasty
She definitely could have handled it better. She had her say and then walked off. It didn't really diffuse the situation and she's left Khaled slightly paranoid. He's not going to enjoy his HOH role.
…(if)..some of the housemates are correct in their assessment of him constantly being self aware of doing and saying ‘the right thing’ and what he feels is the right thing to do and say etc…?…the I don’t think that he would enjoy HoH anyway because he’ll drive himself crazy in second guessing every decision he makes and his whole time in the room…
…no, he said if he didn’t agree with him then he would be lying/…agree with me or you’re not credible..…it’s not up to Khaled or anyone else to speak for Izaaz, only Izaaz can do that …
Yeah he was saying it in a pretty light hearted way between two mates, he wasn't exactly twisting his arm to make him say it. He also didn't really push it much after that and respected Izaaz's view imo
thesheriff443
13-10-2024, 09:26 PM
There is a difference in having an opinion on someone and trying to turn the house against someone
Tonight we saw Ali do that
rusticgal
13-10-2024, 09:30 PM
“You are a nice boy”…how bloody condescending.
Yeah he was saying it in a pretty light hearted way between two mates, he wasn't exactly twisting his arm to make him say it. He also didn't really push it much after that and respected Izaaz's view imo
…Izaaz face to me didn’t say that he felt it was lighthearted…:laugh:…he looked pretty uncomfortable with Khaled drawing him into the conversation…it could be interpreted as falling into what some housemates are feeling about Khaled…(…including Ryan on the Live show…)…that he was being very self aware and wasn’t sure how the conversation would be perceived so he wanted others to say the same thing…he had something to say but he wasn’t standing alone in saying it….hmmmmm…
ThomasC
13-10-2024, 09:33 PM
Yes the guy can be cringe and yes he probably is laying it on a bit thick atm which could be for any number of reasons.
But fundamentally he's clearly a decent guy who has barely said a bad word against anyone. I do not understand why he's such fair game for being attacked and bitched about with such viciousness. Ali is fully on a mission to turn the whole house against him having already manipulated Lily into thinking that way. Apparently if Ali says it it must be true cos she can read minds.
Given Ali is also 15 years his senior it's a really bad look that she's trying to repress his personality and make him doubt the whole way he conducts himself. It's awful behaviour
He hasn't been attacked. Ali has also been open with him
She hasn't turned the whole house against him either. She voiced her opinion.
ThomasC
13-10-2024, 09:33 PM
Agreed
It's bullying
Oh **** off with the bullying ****.
Don't even go there.
…and tbf, if it was said in a light hearted way between two mates then that’s how it would have been responded to, surely…one mate knows when another mate is being lighthearted…?…but that isn’t how it was responded to…Izaaz didn’t seem comfortable at all…
Mrluvaluva
13-10-2024, 09:37 PM
…(if)..some of the housemates are correct in their assessment of him constantly being self aware of doing and saying ‘the right thing’ and what he feels is the right thing to do and say etc…?…the I don’t think that he would enjoy HoH anyway because he’ll drive himself crazy in second guessing every decision he makes and his whole time in the room…
That's what I mean. He's going to be overthinking everything now. It seems to be having wider repercussions watching L&L.
Izaaz is the one that is guarded, not Khaled.
GlitterUK
13-10-2024, 10:48 PM
Ali is showing her true colours. She has gone from hero to zero for me. Khaled is a nice guy. She is a mean girl.
Ali is showing her true colours. She has gone from hero to zero for me. Khaled is a nice guy. She is a mean girl.
Guess you’re not watching Live Stream then ..
Ali is comforting a distraught Daze whilst Khaled is swearing obscenities in the lounge
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fredmeneedle
13-10-2024, 10:52 PM
Oh **** off with the bullying ****.
Don't even go there.
Yeah too right.... the "bullying" thing gets bandied about far too often when all that is happening is that people are being challenged on their viewpoints
Yeah too right.... the "bullying" thing gets bandied about far too often when all that is happening is that people are being challenged on their viewpoints
The funny thing is people get savaged for not having an opinion yet Ali is being roasted for having an opinion and sharing it ( to the other person’s face ( not backstabbing)
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Mystic Mock
13-10-2024, 10:57 PM
I'm not a huge fan of Khalid.
But I don't believe that he is this awful Human Being, I think that Ali is doing what Angela did to Matt in the recent BBUSA.
Mystic Mock
13-10-2024, 11:08 PM
Izaaz is the one that is guarded, not Khaled.
:clap1:
…(if)..some of the housemates are correct in their assessment of him constantly being self aware of doing and saying ‘the right thing’ and what he feels is the right thing to do and say etc…?…the I don’t think that he would enjoy HoH anyway because he’ll drive himself crazy in second guessing every decision he makes and his whole time in the room…
I think it's likely true, but calling him fake is one notch below gameplayer. It's more like he's simply paranoid... the absolutely worst thing he did was take Ali's bait (that's what I think of her little "assessment") when she put him on the defense to defend himself against what are perceptions... Can you imagine? "Everyone here thinks you're trying to manipulate them by being nice"... so if he tries to defend himself or act even nicer to them, he's manipulating them anyway. Nice. :laugh:
She's been doing that to multiple HMs now. Daze tonight on livefeed was beating Nathan upside the head with the "But I feel" line of argumentation that is equally as manipulative, except imo she wasn't articulate at all. But Ali comes in to tell her how incredibly smart and articulate she was and more or less confesses she's been trying to instruct the entire house as to how to speak to her...
Ali can't claim to be neutral when she's clearly sticking up for the same group of people (clearly her buddies) and going out of her way to defend them against attacks against their own personality flaws, but then hanging others out to dry for the public... I think it's fine she tells Khaled to his face she thinks about he's playing a game and doesn't like certain traits he's displayed. That's fine, but don't make it out to be like "Well other people said this"... that's manipulative.
Yeah he was saying it in a pretty light hearted way between two mates, he wasn't exactly twisting his arm to make him say it. He also didn't really push it much after that and respected Izaaz's view imo
That's how I would've interpreted it myself sat in that same scenario. But I can understand where they left plenty of room for that to be interpreted another way, such as strong arming him to pick a side. And they unintentionally gave Izaaz a free pass to play that card to his own advantage, hence him going to "inform" Ali, ie to get her involved in his place. I think when Khaled says he doesn't understand how the game is played, he's 100% not lying there :laugh: That was not a good call especially as he said himself he knew Izaaz was warmer with the other group... but I still think a lot of what's going on with Khaled could just as easily be anxiety, though, he's obviously trying to play a game too...
There is a difference in having an opinion on someone and trying to turn the house against someone
Tonight we saw Ali do that
Agreed, but she's clever enough with words that she can walk away from that accusation more easily than the others. It is what it is. That's why she's been selected and not another person.
I think it's likely true, but calling him fake is one notch below gameplayer. It's more like he's simply paranoid... the absolutely worst thing he did was take Ali's bait (that's what I think of her little "assessment") when she put him on the defense to defend himself against what are perceptions... Can you imagine? "Everyone here thinks you're trying to manipulate them by being nice"... so if he tries to defend himself or act even nicer to them, he's manipulating them anyway. Nice. :laugh:
She's been doing that to multiple HMs now. Daze tonight on livefeed was beating Nathan upside the head with the "But I feel" line of argumentation that is equally as manipulative, except imo she wasn't articulate at all. But Ali comes in to tell her how incredibly smart and articulate she was and more or less confesses she's been trying to instruct the entire house as to how to speak to her...
Ali can't claim to be neutral when she's clearly sticking up for the same group of people (clearly her buddies) and going out of her way to defend them against attacks against their own personality flaws, but then hanging others out to dry for the public... I think it's fine she tells Khaled to his face she thinks about he's playing a game and doesn't like certain traits he's displayed. That's fine, but don't make it out to be like "Well other people said this"... that's manipulative.
That's how I would've interpreted it myself sat in that same scenario. But I can understand where they left plenty of room for that to be interpreted another way, such as strong arming him to pick a side. And they unintentionally gave Izaaz a free pass to play that card to his own advantage, hence him going to "inform" Ali, ie to get her involved in his place. I think when Khaled says he doesn't understand how the game is played, he's 100% not lying there :laugh: That was not a good call especially as he said himself he knew Izaaz was warmer with the other group... but I still think a lot of what's going on with Khaled could just as easily be anxiety, though, he's obviously trying to play a game too...
Agreed, but she's clever enough with words that she can walk away from that accusation more easily than the others. It is what it is. That's why she's been selected and not another person.
And yet an hour ago Ali sided with Daze when Daze and Nathan were having a tiff ( so she went against her friend Nathan )
( Nathan and Daze had a fallout )
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In a house of 15 people how awful is it if someone is coming across as trying to be too nice, as Khalid is supposedly doing? Does it even matter? It might matter to viewers who want rows and drama but I can’t see it being a big thing for a resident HM with 14 other people in the house to focus on, many of them having worse traits and habits than being ‘too nice’.
Imo it wasn't at all appropriate for Ali to speak to him in such a superior and dismissive way “you can go back to your party” etc, and when she confronted him later (which she should have done in private instead of belittling him in front of his mates) she was so patronising and icy cold.
I just think the whole thing was vindictive and unnecessary.
GlitterUK
13-10-2024, 11:39 PM
Plus why is she nit picking at only Khaled? Surely Rosie, Martha come under the being too nice bracket also?
In a house of 15 people how awful is it if someone is coming across as trying to be too nice, as Khalid is supposedly doing? Does it even matter? It might matter to viewers who want rows and drama but I can’t see it being a big thing for a resident HM with 14 other people in the house to focus on, many of them having worse traits and habits than being ‘too nice’.
Imo it wasn't at all appropriate for Ali to speak to him in such a superior and dismissive way “you can go back to your party” etc, and when she confronted him later (which she should have done in private instead of belittling him in front of his mates) she was so patronising and icy cold.
I just think the whole thing was vindictive and unnecessary.
I agree that maybe things could have been handled better BUT this is Big Brother and we know how emotions and tensions are extremely heightened
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vesavius
13-10-2024, 11:41 PM
Plus why is she nit picking at only Khaled? Surely Rosie, Martha come under the being too nice bracket also?
I suspect that there is a streak of misandry that runs through her.
I agree that maybe things could have been handled better BUT this is Big Brother and we know how emotions and tensions are extremely heightened
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I wish Ali would give Lily an icy cold lecture on excavating her nostrils and munching on the contents.
In a house of 15 people how awful is it if someone is coming across as trying to be too nice, as Khalid is supposedly doing? Does it even matter?
I thought I was the only one feeling that way and it's kinda crazy to me. :laugh:
And yet an hour ago Ali sided with Daze when Daze and Nathan were having a tiff ( so she went against her friend Nathan )
( Nathan and Daze had a fallout )
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Judging by the argument with Daze on live feed, I think Nathan is a bit easier to "manipulate" and cojol. He swims for friendly waters no matter whose waters those are... but I did appreciate that he just was like "Nah". Made me like Lord Nathan more, tbh. Edit: Who knows now though where he'll swim...
Mystic Mock
13-10-2024, 11:49 PM
And yet an hour ago Ali sided with Daze when Daze and Nathan were having a tiff ( so she went against her friend Nathan )
( Nathan and Daze had a fallout )
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I don't get why Ali keeps getting herself involved in these squabbles though?
Sometimes being a wet lettuce like Izaaz is a smart gameplay move.
Mystic Mock
13-10-2024, 11:54 PM
I suspect that there is a streak of misandry that runs through her.
She's definitely playing a Misandry strategy (even though I know that certain people don't want to hear that, or read it in this case) I do think she's trying to play the modern day feminist strategy, which does tend to lean heavily into Misandry a lot of the time.
I like to think that Ali in her day to day life isn't like that though.
joeysteele
13-10-2024, 11:57 PM
Often very little actually makes any sense in the BB house.
People turn on others sometimes for no apparent reason.
Ali in her job is probably as she is in the house.
I have no dislike for Khaled but I do feel there's something about him that he isn't showing yet.
Actually Ryan said as much on TV tonight too in that he agreed with Ali.
At least she isn't being nice to his face while slagging him off in the diary room.
I do think she could have put her thoughts in different terms.
However at least he knows what she really thinks of him.
That's something many previous housemates on BB have never been able to work out about others in series.
vesavius
14-10-2024, 12:09 AM
She's definitely playing a Misandry strategy (even though I know that certain people don't want to hear that, or read it in this case) I do think she's trying to play the modern day feminist strategy, which does tend to lean heavily into Misandry a lot of the time.
I like to think that Ali in her day to day life isn't like that though.
Yeah, hopefully not, but I am of the thought that you can tell a lot who a person really is in how they choose to play a game.
Mystic Mock
14-10-2024, 12:12 AM
Yeah, hopefully not, but I am of the thought that you can tell a lot who a person really is in how they choose to play a game.
Sometimes that can be the case.
Other times it can be players playing too hard due to being extremely competitive.
Time will tell why Ali is playing that strategy imo.
And in fairness I am suspicious with who I think that Khaled could nominate himself, as I have noticed a pattern of him clashing with the girls a fair bit.
vesavius
14-10-2024, 12:14 AM
Sometimes that can be the case.
Other times it can be players playing too hard due to being extremely competitive.
Time will tell why Ali is playing that strategy imo.
And in fairness I am suspicious with who I think that Khaled could nominate himself, as I have noticed a pattern of him clashing with the girls a fair bit.
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I agree. I really liked Ali in the beginning but I think she's been very harsh on him, unless there is something we are entirely missing but I doubt it. I also don't really like how it's almost framed like because of Ali's profession that makes her qualified to make a full assessment of someone's personality based on very little.
I agree. I really liked Ali in the beginning but I think she's been very harsh on him, unless there is something we are entirely missing but I doubt it. I also don't really like how it's almost framed like because of Ali's profession that makes her qualified to make a full assessment of someone's personality based on very little.
We see a few minutes out of each day - of course we are missing something
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GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 05:46 AM
I don't even think Khaled did anything wrong with Izaaz either tbh, he only said that he had to agree that the vibes were off - which is absolutely true given they'd all been bitching about Khaled 5 minutes earlier
Exactly
And Izaaz needs to be careful,one minute it seems he's the peacemaker...but I think he wants to play both sides .but TBF I think he felt put in the middle so I'll let him off,as Ali just started slagging Khaled down ....and i don't think Izaaz knew what to say .
Izaaz clearly thought if he spoke to Ali , that herself and Khaled would clear the air. But it just went horribly wrong...as it seems Ali dislikes Khaled no matter what.
I don't know why people are suspicious of Khaled, i think he's genuine at the moment. And it's ridiculous how even Ryan is jumping on the bandwagon on L& L .
And David & Kate are talking complete BS about how they'd enjoy nomination power,who would enjoy that poisonous chalice??? . Last year the amount of hate Noky got from Olivia & Paul etc was really unpleasant to see .
And judging by the footage ,it looks like Ali is having a go at Khaled again due to the aftermath of the nomination twist . Khaled was in a no win situation. I hope he tries to enjoy his immunity... because no doubt he'll probably get nominated the following week.
Also I'm sensing a house divide ,if the clip on L& L is anything to go by . It looked like Khaled walked away...and Emma, Marcello and someone else was talking to him/ reassuring him separately from the other housemates :think: .
DrunkerThanMoses
14-10-2024, 06:39 AM
He hasent done anything wrong, its just Ali hating because she knows she a sad heartless cow really and cant relate to someone being nice
We see a few minutes out of each day - of course we are missing something
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What I meant was have we missed something serious that Khaled has done that would make their opinions of him more understandable, but that doesn't appear to be the case as nobody else has a problem with him other than Ali and Lily (who isn't exactly the most trustworthy in her judgement).
Even Hannah who had an actual confrontation with Khaled doesn't seem to have an issue with him.
vesavius
14-10-2024, 02:35 PM
He hasent done anything wrong, its just Ali hating because she knows she a sad heartless cow really and cant relate to someone being nice
Agree.
GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 02:39 PM
He hasent done anything wrong, its just Ali hating because she knows she a sad heartless cow really and cant relate to someone being nice
It's really terrible that when someone is just nice or shows concern, people are suspicious. Why are people so paranoid. Nobody thinks Rosie is fake ,and she's friendly with everyone and happy go lucky:shrug: .
What I meant was have we missed something serious that Khaled has done that would make their opinions of him more understandable, but that doesn't appear to be the case as nobody else has a problem with him other than Ali and Lily (who isn't exactly the most trustworthy in her judgement).
Even Hannah who had an actual confrontation with Khaled doesn't seem to have an issue with him.
Big Brother is continually accused of bad editing or manipulation - maybe Khaled simply isn’t as nice as we think ?
Live stream last night showed Hannah saying that she completely agrees with what Ali said about Khaled BUT didn’t like the way she had handled things
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Crimson Dynamo
14-10-2024, 02:41 PM
It's really terrible that when someone is just nice or shows concern, people are suspicious. Why are people so paranoid. Nobody thinks Rosie is fake ,and she's friendly with everyone and happy go lucky:shrug: .
yeah Rosie goes around with her gob open being miss nicey nice to everyone but Ali says nowt
(because she is a female)
Looks like Ali has men issues...
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It's really terrible that when someone is just nice or shows concern, people are suspicious. Why are people so paranoid. Nobody thinks Rosie is fake ,and she's friendly with everyone and happy go lucky:shrug: .
Hannah said she agreed with Ali’s assessment of Khaled but didn’t like the way it had been handled
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Big Brother is continually accused of bad editing or manipulation - maybe Khaled simply isn’t as nice as we think ?
Live stream last night showed Hannah saying that she completely agrees with what Ali said about Khaled BUT didn’t like the way she had handled things
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Hanah and Khaled already had a disagreement which made her pretty upset so he was on her radar. So no surprises there. It seems reasonable he'd have his guard up around certain people after that to avoid creating an issue.
I find it hard to believe BB would keep a good villain from us. I think we'll probably find out tonight though what he's like since as HoH he will have to be firmly off the fence.
GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 04:22 PM
Hannah said she agreed with Ali’s assessment of Khaled but didn’t like the way it had been handled
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I like Hannah,but I do wonder if her judgement is clouded by their clash on the whole ' aggy' clash. Both her & Khaled got off on the wrong foot. They seemed to sort things out,but maybe it's still made Hannah misunderstand him.
Niamh.
14-10-2024, 04:24 PM
I like Hannah,but I do wonder if her judgement is clouded by their clash on the whole ' aggy' clash. Both her & Khaled got off on the wrong foot. They seemed to sort things out,but maybe it's still made Hannah misunderstand him.
tbf to Hanah that would have annoyed me too, there is that "angry black woman" stereotype that seems to get rolled out almost every year on BB and she was not being in any way aggressive
GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 04:34 PM
tbf to Hanah that would have annoyed me too, there is that "angry black woman" stereotype that seems to get rolled out almost every year on BB and she was not being in any way aggressive
Yeah I get where she was coming from , I honestly think Khaled used the wrong word...and didn't mean it that way. They're both from similar cultures & have the same religion...so surely deep down he should have known what Hannah meant, especially now she's told Emma she's a Virgin aswell.
He knows women especially in certain traditional ' beliefs ' ....are expected to wait until they get married , and it's seen as sacred.
Yeah I get where she was coming from , I honestly think Khaled used the wrong word...and didn't mean it that way. They're both from similar cultures & have the same religion...so surely deep down he should have known what Hannah meant, especially now she's told Emma she's a Virgin aswell.
He knows women especially in certain traditional ' beliefs ' ....are expected to wait until they get married , and it's seen as sacred.
…I thought that the discussion they had was Hanah saying that she would consider herself a single person until she was married and that’s her personal decision and something she feels passionately …I don’t think she was speaking from a culture aspect but just for her personally….and because she was passionate in defending that…(…which we all would be, I would think…)…his suggestion/inference was that she was being aggressive in defending her personal choice…that was definitely not a good look for him either…
GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 05:00 PM
…I thought that the discussion they had was Hanah saying that she would consider herself a single person until she was married and that’s her personal decision and something she feels passionately …I don’t think she was speaking from a culture aspect but just for her personally….and because she was passionate in defending that…(…which we all would be, I would think…)…his suggestion/inference was that she was being aggressive in defending her personal choice…that was definitely not a good look for him either…
But it's obvious what she meant and it is rooted in her culture & beliefs :shrug:, she may date guys but unless they put a ring on her finger and make a commitment...the relationship will not be serious to her hence why she says ' single' .
I think Khaled took it too literal / personal with the whole 'single' comment, as if it was some type of disrespect to a boyfriend she would have, when in reality....I don't think she wants to introduce her family to a boyfriend until she knows they're getting married/ or if marriage is definitely on the cards 100% .
But it's obvious what she meant and it is rooted in her culture & beliefs :shrug:, she may date guys but unless they put a ring on her finger and make a commitment...the relationship will not be serious to her hence why she says ' single' .
I think Khaled took it too literal / personal with the whole 'single' comment, as if it was some type of disrespect to a boyfriend she would have, when in reality....I don't think she wants to introduce her family to a boyfriend until she knows they're getting married/ or if marriage is definitely on the cards 100% .
…maybe, but however he took it, it was also a questioning of her own belief which she only applied to herself and no one else…it wasn’t a culture thing in the way she explained it in the conversation, it was a Hanah thing and in maintaining that and even defending it, he suggested that she was being aggressive when she wasn’t…it’s not for him to question any potential boyfriend relationship she has…
Vanessa
14-10-2024, 05:13 PM
He's a nice guy, but I still prefer Lily.
GoldHeart
14-10-2024, 05:13 PM
…maybe, but however he took it, it was also a questioning of her own belief which she only applied to herself and no one else…it wasn’t a culture thing in the way she explained it in the conversation, it was a Hanah thing and in maintaining that and even defending it, he suggested that she was being aggressive when she wasn’t…it’s not for him to question any potential boyfriend relationship she has…
I agree with this
Niamh.
14-10-2024, 05:16 PM
…I thought that the discussion they had was Hanah saying that she would consider herself a single person until she was married and that’s her personal decision and something she feels passionately …I don’t think she was speaking from a culture aspect but just for her personally….and because she was passionate in defending that…(…which we all would be, I would think…)…his suggestion/inference was that she was being aggressive in defending her personal choice…that was definitely not a good look for him either…Yeah exactly, it wasn't about what they were talking about, that was irrelevant, it was him commenting on how she was handling herself in that discussion
Yeah exactly, it wasn't about what they were talking about, that was irrelevant, it was him commenting on how she was handling herself in that discussion
…exactly, it wasn’t a good look for him …he has no right anyway to question her own personal values and choices…she wasn’t referring to culture, only to what her own stance is…they may have sorted it out but it still happened …for me I’m not going to feel that…oh, for Khaled it was all just a misunderstanding, type thing while for Ali ….well, the standards for that lady are very different…for me if you like, it’s one strike each…:laugh:…but still both showing nice aspects to their character also…
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