ITV2HD Monday 9PM (Day 8) Big Brother 2024 Discussion

[A8473]

Also this is not the luxury room I had in mind.

[Maru]

If he was smart and wanted to guarantee one if those two out he’d save Daze and replace her with someone like Thomas.

I wonder if this is why Daze went off last night? (He didn't save her...)

[Ammi]

he decided to prolong the drama :fist:

…maybe he is that fake person who is trying to work out what would look best for the public…?…

[A8473]

I wonder if this is why Daze went off last night? (He didn't save her...)

She was going off on Nathan though. Specifically. So dunno?

[Benjamin]

…maybe he is that fake person who is trying to work out what would look best for the public…?…

Tbf he’s prob trying to work out what game to play best.

[ThomasC]

when is the eviction, Wednesday?

That soon?

[Maru]

She was going off on Nathan though. Specifically. So dunno?

She'd said something along the lines of how much she had been supporting Khalid, and vice-versa... not sure if a betrayal happened or not

[smudgie]

Here comes the beef:cheer2:

[Ammi]

..oh has he saved Daze…?…

[Conzors]

Omg not Khalid being outed haha

[Vanessa]

Killer nomination! Yes!

[A8473]

Omg they reveal it like this. No wonder it kicks off LOL

[Maru]

Omg they reveal it like this. No wonder it kicks off LOL

That's what I thought happened

[Ammi]

..poor Martha…

[Vanessa]

Martha? That's a bit random :joker:

[bots]

4 girls :joker:

[_Tom_]

Bit crap for the HoH that this bit is public!

[MTVN]

Yes Khaled!!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Holy mother of God!!!!

[A8473]

Bye Martha.

[Benjamin]

Oooh Martha

[Maru]

His reasons for not doing save and replace makes sense

[bots]

glad to see Martha took it well

[Benjamin]

But yeeeeessss Sarah is safe

[Adamw92]

Not so Mr Nice Guy

[smudgie]

Martha makes sense.
His explanation makes sense.

[Dogeatdog]

But yeeeeessss Sarah is safe

Woohooo!!!

[Ammi]

…oh Lily…silly Lily, talking about nominations already…

[A8473]

We will finally get to see the real Martha

[Conzors]

He is proving Ali right why Martha?
Save the boys he’s a lads lads he’s a loon

[Maru]

But yeeeeessss Sarah is safe

:love:

[thesheriff443]

It’s not like Martha was never going to get nominated

[Benjamin]

Yeah I agree with Martha, but that’s got to suck.

[Maru]

But Martha, if you make it through, your self-esteem will go woop woop

[Conzors]

How is Martha the fairest option? Ali is right about him drag him everyone

[Benjamin]

Not one person going to see if she’s ok either :(

[Adamw92]

Drag him Daze :clap2:

[Benjamin]

Daze is going this week.

[MTVN]

glad to see Martha took it well

:joker:

[Vanessa]

We've got beef!

[joeysteele]

He is proving Ali right why Martha?
Save the boys he’s a lads lads he’s a loon

I agree with you.

[Ammi]

Daze is going this week.

…maybe Martha…

[A8473]

look at that divide

[Benjamin]

I reckon it was calculated on Khaled’s part. I reckon he thinks Martha will survive.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ali attacking him for not doing what she would. **** off you witch

[MTVN]

Wowww Ali clocked!

[Maru]

Ali, really... seriously...

[bots]

Khalid is an arse

[smudgie]

Shut up Daze.
Making a show of yourself.

[arista]

I knew Ali
would have ago at him.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Jerry Jerry

[smudgie]

I reckon it was calculated on Khaled’s part. I reckon he thinks Martha will survive.

Yes. Clever lad.

[Benjamin]

Leave Khaled alone. He had to pick someone.

[Vanessa]

Ali just won't leave him alone :fist:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I knew Ali
would have ago at him.

It's giving Aaron Taylor Johnson and his wife for vibes

[Crimson Dynamo]

Khaleds rights are human rights luv

[Dogeatdog]

Jerry Jerry

:laugh:

[Ammi]

…tbh, I think they’re as bad as each other…I think neither have any liking for the other for whatever reason…

[arista]

Martha may go

Or Daze
Lily
or Ali

[Maru]

She's mad he's not clear about how he feels and is being fake and now he's being honest and she's like "Stop being fake!"... no, she's digging...

"You're accusing me of villifying you"... "now everyone will perceive this"... but it's OK for her to label him fake?...

[GoldHeart]

…oh Lily…silly Lily, talking about nominations already…

She really is an idiot.

[AnnieK]

Khaled did great there....he held his own and said what he needed to quite respectfully and Ali didn't really have a come back as what he was saying was right

[thesheriff443]

How is Martha the fairest option? Ali is right about him drag him everyone

Your delusional

[_Tom_]

Leave Khaled alone. He had to pick someone.

Exactly

[bots]

khalid can do one, can't stand him

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jerry Jerry

:laugh2:

[Benjamin]

I think Martha is the safest.

[GoldHeart]

Martha may go

Or Daze
Lily
or Ali

I think Daze is going.

Best outcome would be Lily going, I don't like how she thinks she's going to win .

[thesheriff443]

Khaled did great there....he held his own and said what he needed to quite respectfully and Ali didn't really have a come back as what he was saying was right

Exactly

[Adamw92]

Something about him not going to apologise to Martha and staying there to defend his nice guy image makes me feel like Ali is spot on about him being false

[MTVN]

Khaled did great there....he held his own and said what he needed to quite respectfully and Ali didn't really have a come back as what he was saying was right

Yeah she really didn't, his response actually seemed to floor her a bit

[GoldHeart]

Ali just won't leave him alone :fist:

She needs to get in the bin ,if only it was a double eviction with her going.

[Conzors]

Your delusional

She is right! He said the fairest option was Martha but didn’t divulge how it was fair. Why Martha over everyone else?

But I am delulu

[arista]

I think Daze is going.

Best outcome would be Lily going, I don't like how she thinks she's going to win .


Yes Could Be

[Ammi]

khalid can do one, can't stand him

…I really think they’re both too self aware and that’s what sparks their suspicion of each other…

[Conzors]

Something about him not going to apologise to Martha and staying there to defend his nice guy image makes me feel like Ali is spot on about him being false

This

[Cherie]

Go Khaled he shut Ali down there

[Crimson Dynamo]

Something about him not going to apologise to Martha and staying there to defend his nice guy image makes me feel like Ali is spot on about him being false

Apologise for playing the game?

Are you for real?

Lol

[Maru]

Khaled isn't a victim, but he said what he needed to say. She wanted him to say more to her so she could create controversy out of it... the only person really deserving of any explanation is Martha.

[Lostie!]

Something about him not going to apologise to Martha and staying there to defend his nice guy image makes me feel like Ali is spot on about him being false

It was pretty clear she didn't wanna talk to him in that moment, I don't see how immediately chasing her would have been constructive

[thesheriff443]

She is right! He said the fairest option was Martha but didn’t divulge how it was fair. Why Martha over everyone else?

But I am delulu

He explained how he came up with his decision try watching

[Conzors]

He explained how he came up with his decision try watching

How did he come to Martha then?

[Crimson Dynamo]

No one realises what a terrible position Khaled was put in as they are all too busy thinking about themselves

[A8473]

I would rather keep Ali Daze & Lily a bit longer than Martha if i had to choose. They are a bit more entertaining.

[smudgie]

Hopefully we now get to see the drama from Daze..all about the ferocious attack on her from Nathan, enough tears to fill a big bucket.

[Lostie!]

No one realises what a terrible position Khaled was put in as they are all too busy thinking about themselves

Yeah, I feel worse for him than Martha tbh

[Maru]

…I really think they’re both too self aware and that’s what sparks their suspicion of each other…

I think they both see competition for that reason.

[Ammi]

Something about him not going to apologise to Martha and staying there to defend his nice guy image makes me feel like Ali is spot on about him being false

…I’m starting to feel that as well…

[Adamw92]

Apologise for playing the game?

Are you for real?

Lol

100% yes. He’s very much all about how he looks to others rather than just being nice to be nice.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Martha reacted so badly storming out

[Dogeatdog]

Sorry but if Khaled chased Martha out the room to apologise to her there would still be people out there accusing him of being fake

[Adamw92]

…I’m starting to feel that as well…

Nice to see others not buying into it

[Maru]

Something about him not going to apologise to Martha and staying there to defend his nice guy image makes me feel like Ali is spot on about him being false

So he should do the thing that's most likely going to get him pegged as "being fake"?... it's a lose-lose proposition. (as far as immediately)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Daze can't take it

Lol

Baby

[thesheriff443]

How did he come to Martha then?

Go back and watch it lazy man

[eternal]

Khaled just destroyed Ali there

[Crimson Dynamo]

Martha you dough faced eejit you just broke the rules

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Yeah is Nathan a bit racist why is he always ready to jump down her throat

[Conzors]

Go back and watch it lazy man

You’re proving my point haha

[_Tom_]

Not again...

[Benjamin]

Martha breaking noms rules.

[Adamw92]

So he should do the thing that's most likely going to get him pegged as "being fake"?... it's a lose-lose proposition. (as far as immediately)

If I had nominated someone right there to their face while trying to say I’m being fair, I absolutely would apologise to them rather than sit there trying to make myself look better, she literally walked away crying and then walked right past them, he could have went after her once she came back downstairs and yet he didn’t. Just doesn’t feel like he’s genuinely sorry, just that he doesn’t want to look bad.

[Benjamin]

I’m not ready for Daze to go. I want more Nathan vs Daze.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah is Nathan a bit racist why is he always ready to jump down her throat

Because she talks sh1t maybe?

[bots]

Martha reacted so badly storming out

that was the best moment of tonights show :laugh:


What this now means is that daggers will be drawn from this point forward, it's going to be great

[Dogeatdog]

So he should do the thing that's most likely going to get him pegged as "being fake"?... it's a lose-lose proposition. (as far as immediately)

Exactly it’s a lose lose situation damned if he do or damned if he doesn’t.

[joeysteele]

I’m not ready for Daze to go. I want more Nathan vs Daze.

I love their exchanges.

[Ammi]

I’m not ready for Daze to go. I want more Nathan vs Daze.

…just exactly what I was thinking…

[Vanessa]

We need more of this beef

[Benjamin]

Martha reacted so badly storming out

And nobody going to check on her :laugh:

Did feel for her tbf.

[MTVN]

Nathan is being a bit rude tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Daze obviously has never had anyone pull her up for her BS

[eternal]

Daze obviously has never had anyone pull her up for her BS

Exactly.

[bots]

Nathan's teeth freak me out

[Conzors]

Nathan is being a bit rude tbh

If someone kept talking over me like that I would be fuming Nathan let her speak! Haha

[Crimson Dynamo]

Viscious attack

:joker:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Well you do do it

[MTVN]

Last season felt like every disagreement got ended with a hug and making up, this year they just walk away from each other still fuming :joker:

[thesheriff443]

You’re proving my point haha

No if you can’t keep up I’m not wasting my time going over what you missed

[Crimson Dynamo]

If someone kept talking over me like that I would be fuming Nathan let her speak! Haha

Er that is not how a conversation works

[smudgie]

Viscious attack

:joker:

Yeah right. Now wait for the tearful performance.

[arista]

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[GoldHeart]

It was pretty clear she didn't wanna talk to him in that moment, I don't see how immediately chasing her would have been constructive

Exactly
She clearly wanted space .

Ali is constantly making digs at Khaled, she's like a dog with a bone. I knew the HOH / nomination twist would be a no win situation,no matter what Khaled did... he'd be slated :bored: .

[bots]

Last season felt like every disagreement got ended with a hug and making up, this year they just walk away from each other still fuming :joker:

it's much more realistic

[MTVN]

Marcello, man of peace and love

[GoldHeart]

Nathan's teeth freak me out

Wtf :joker:

[Benjamin]

Hanah is really growing on me

[Cherie]

How many rule breaks have their been since the nom reveal, never seen such bad feeling over being nominated :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The waterworks now

It's all because she got nomed

[Adamw92]

Nathan's teeth freak me out

Same :laugh:

[Vanessa]

I'm liking Marcello tonight. God help me :joker:

[Benjamin]

I'm liking Marcello tonight. God help me :joker:

Same :joker:

[eternal]

Give it a rest, Daze.

[Maru]

Marcello redemption arc incoming

[GoldHeart]

How many rule breaks have their been since the nom reveal, never seen such bad feeling over being nominated :laugh:

Like how difficult is it not to discuss nominations,bliddy hell... they're mouths are like verbal diarrhoea :facepalm: .

[Vanessa]

Same :joker:

He's being so nice and caring

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm liking Marcello tonight. God help me :joker:

Me too

[smudgie]

Oh god, don’t encourage her.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Because she talks sh1t maybe?

Who doesn't. Why are others getting away with nonsense. Maybe he can have a word with Marcello sometimes

[Ammi]

Nathan's teeth freak me out

…is it just me that never notices his teeth ….

[Adamw92]

Daze has a point tbf

[Crimson Dynamo]

Daze get a grip

Pathetic

[Maru]

Oh they cut the part where Ali said that there's a lot of extroverts that like to take up lots of space in the house...

[bots]

Daze should glue herself to the kitchen table, she would feel more at home

[A8473]

It was a weird argument. Neither was willing to concede. Best thing was to walk away like they did.

[Maru]

Daze should be thrilled to be nominated then if she wants to go home

[R2Y5A0N2]

I'm surprised by the nominations for Segun and Izaaz, but obviously we're not living with them 24/7 so won't fully understand the reasons for their nominations. Also surprised that Marcello escaped Ali's nominations.

[smudgie]

I hope she does get evicted.

[joeysteele]

…is it just me that never notices his teeth ….

I don't see them as an issue.:joker:
Not something I'd concentrate on.

[hijaxers]

Marcello, man of peace and love

Peace love and bull crap more like.

[A8473]

Didn't even realise the episode was longer tonight!

[Maru]

Making popcorn

[eternal]

Is Ali a misandrist?

[Vanessa]

I'm definitely Team Khaled. Ali is way too judgemental.

[Beso]

They cut so much out of that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looking forward to a full week of love blossoming between The Italian Stallion and the Rosy tattie :love:

[bots]

i'm starting to like Ali :shocked:

[Ammi]

Is Ali a misandrist?

…because there’s one male housemate that she doesn’t connect with …?…

[Crimson Dynamo]

…because there’s one male housemate that she doesn’t connect with …?…

She only speaks to Nathan, no other man

[bots]

oh god, let it go Nathan

[Vanessa]

Nathan will pick up a fair few nominations next

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Is Marcello being a pig not worth you speaking up as well then Nathan

[Adamw92]

Nathan :bored:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

It's giving condescending oppression

[Maru]

"felt like a vicious attack"
"But i am not saying it was intended" ... sigh... slippery

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

What constitutes "ample opportunity" as much as you?

[Benjamin]

Ali telling Nathan off :laugh:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Go Ali!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Get them telt Nathan

Battered them both

Woop woop

[Vanessa]

Omg Nathan. He's so pedantic. Really going off him

[eternal]

"felt like a vicious attack"
"But i am not saying it was intended" ... sigh... slippery

Talking in circles.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

About ample opportunity. Who are you mazza

[Adamw92]

Nah he literally only does it to Daze though

[MTVN]

Hmm not sure about Nathan, think he laboured that unnecessarily

[thesheriff443]

i'm starting to like Ali :shocked:

You bring on another stroke to like that

[Maru]

Ali infantilizes Daze, imo...

[Benjamin]

Oh can we just get rid of that trash bag Lily.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Marcello is just living his best life. :joker:

[Ammi]

…’we’ll just leave it there …’…and walks off …so, basically what Ali has been villainised for…?…

[smudgie]

Ali infantilizes Daze, imo...

Ali thinks she is the head girl in school I think:laugh:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Ali your dad is the nutty professor? That laugh

[bots]

…’we’ll just leave it there …’…and walks off …so, basically what Ali has been villainised for…?…

yeah, people really can't see it in themselves :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Nathan more my favourite now after tonight.

I hope the public don't split Daze and his confrontations/ exchanges.
They're TV gold.

[Ammi]

Hmm not sure about Nathan, think he laboured that unnecessarily

…well he basically was Ali 2 there, I think…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Keep talking crap Daze and you will be toast come Friday

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

If Nathan was doing all that to Lilly it wouldn't fly

[GoldHeart]

I'm definitely Team Khaled. Ali is way too judgemental.

This

[Maru]

…’we’ll just leave it there …’…and walks off …so, basically what Ali has been villainised for…?…

He tried to resolve it, Daze wasn't accepting the answers. Daze is the one who had the issue. Ali had an issue as well (apparently). They love to hear themselves argue, but never like the answers...

[bots]

can i just say that was probably the defining episode for the rest of the series

[thesheriff443]

Nathan more my favourite now after tonight.

I hope the public don't split Daze and his confrontations/ exchanges.
They're TV gold.
Yea he was great tonight

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

If Nathan did all that to lily it wouldn't fly

[Adamw92]

can i just say that was probably the defining episode for the rest of the series

Shame we’ll lose a bigger personality this week as usual though :idc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

What an episode!!

[thesheriff443]

He tried to resolve it, Daze wasn't accepting the answers. Daze is the one who had the issue. Ali had an issue as well (apparently). They love to hear themselves argue, but never like the answers...

So true

[Vanessa]

Best episode so far

[Ammi]

yeah, people really can't see it in themselves :laugh:

…I imagine he’ll be villainised in the same way as Ali has, that’s what will happen because it’s only fair…(…we’ll see how that flows……:laugh:…)…

[Cherie]

Ali your dad is the nutty professor? That laugh

:joker:

[Benjamin]

That dress on Ajay :love:

[GoldHeart]

Oh can we just get rid of that trash bag Lily.

She's going nowhere unfortunately :bored:

[Lostie!]

Great episode that (apart from the disappointing nomination result)

[Ammi]

Great episode that

…old school…:lovedup:…

[GoldHeart]

If Nathan did all that to lily it wouldn't fly

They need to stop giving Lily passes.

[Adamw92]

He tried to resolve it, Daze wasn't accepting the answers. Daze is the one who had the issue. Ali had an issue as well (apparently). They love to hear themselves argue, but never like the answers...

Oh come on… he didn’t go at Ali the same way he was going at and has gone at Daze before. He didn’t like that she “insulted” him by calling him out on how he speaks to her.

[Strictly Jake]

Can they please extend this series. This is feeling like it needs an extra two weeks.

[Beso]

…’we’ll just leave it there …’…and walks off …so, basically what Ali has been villainised for…?…

Tbf it was after about half an hour of daze going round and round in circles refusing to admit she was wrong to say vicious.. on live feed she had the exact same conversation she had with nathan, with marcello, ali and lily before the 2nd round with nathan. He only walked away out of frustration at her.

Totally different scenario to kahled and Ali.

[Lostie!]

…old school…:lovedup:…

Wasn't it! Last year I kept saying it felt like Big Brother Lite, this series really feels like Big Brother

[storybrooke]

I like Nathan more after this episode . No idea where vicious attack came from

[Ammi]

Wasn't it! Last year I kept saying it felt like Big Brother Lite, this series really feels like Big Brother



…yeah this year they’re giving us the house cocktails…let them flow, baby…:flutter:…

[GoldHeart]

Oh come on… he didn’t go at Ali the same way he was going at and has gone at Daze before. He didn’t like that she “insulted” him by calling him out on how he speaks to her.

There's no love lost between Daze & Nathan, from the beginning they've been clashing on their political differences.

It's funny Nathan thinks Ali is a ' mediator', when all of them seem to enjoy having the last word.

[R2Y5A0N2]

Ali is definitely victimising Khaled - she's vile. She knows exactly what she is doing, she is a Forensic psychologist - she knows what to say, how to act, how to manipulate people & situations.

[Adamw92]

There's no love lost between Daze & Nathan, from the beginning they've been clashing on their political differences.

It's funny Nathan thinks Ali is a ' mediator', when all of them seem to enjoy having the last word.

I just think it does seem like he’s always going for Daze but ignoring when other people do similar things to her. I can see where the was coming from with the attacking comment.

[GoldHeart]

I just think it does seem like he’s always going for Daze but ignoring when other people do similar things to her. I can see where the was coming from with the attacking comment.

Because he has forever beef with Daze ,he nominated her . He still likes Ali and seems to excuse her behaviour. Despite the fact he himself noticed Ali was grilling Khaled's nomination decision.

[Adamw92]

Because he has forever beef with Daze ,he nominated her . He still likes Ali and seems to excuse her behaviour. Despite the fact he himself noticed Ali was grilling Khaled's nomination decision.

Right but he seems perfectly capable of calling out what he feels is any wrongdoing and he believes Khaled was being unfairly attacked and yet still only went for Daze, just feels mean to me and I’m not even a fan of Daze.

[GoldHeart]

Right but he seems perfectly capable of calling out what he feels is any wrongdoing and he believes Khaled was being unfairly attacked and yet still only went for Daze, just feels mean to me and I’m not even a fan of Daze.

Yeah I noticed it aswell , he's bias about Ali . He thinks Ali does no wrong.

[Zizu]

Interesting

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[Mystic Mock]

Right but he seems perfectly capable of calling out what he feels is any wrongdoing and he believes Khaled was being unfairly attacked and yet still only went for Daze, just feels mean to me and I’m not even a fan of Daze.

Nathan does like to wind Daze up I've noticed.:laugh:

I do think she could've worded herself better though, because "vicious attack" does sound OTT.:laugh:

And I do like both Nathan and Daze.

[GoldHeart]

Interesting

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I thought it was a good technique :shrug: , he had to find a way to sneak through the secret room. I actually thought Ali spotted him....as she was sitting directly underneath with a view to the staircase.

[jet]

Tbf it was after about half an hour of daze going round and round in circles refusing to admit she was wrong to say vicious.. on live feed she had the exact same conversation she had with nathan, with marcello, ali and lily before the 2nd round with nathan. He only walked away out of frustration at her.

Totally different scenario to kahled and Ali.

This ^^ The 2 scenarios were in no way similar.

[GoldHeart]

Nathan does like to wind Daze up I've noticed.:laugh:

I do think she could've worded herself better though, because "vicious attack" does sound OTT.:laugh:

And I do like both Nathan and Daze.

I think Daze is a little addicted to drama ,same as Ali . Nathan enjoys the last word aswell,but I could tell he was getting fed up.

[Zizu]

I thought it was a good technique :shrug: , he had to find a way to sneak through the secret room. I actually thought Ali spotted him....as she was sitting directly underneath with a view to the staircase.


Yes it was clever but the religious folk online weren’t too impressed


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[Mystic Mock]

Yes it was clever but the religious folk online weren’t too impressed


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Diddums.:laugh:

Khaled isn't hurting anyone with a fake prayer lol.

[Mystic Mock]

I think Daze is a little addicted to drama ,same as Ali . Nathan enjoys the last word aswell,but I could tell he was getting fed up.

It's BB Housemates.

95% of them are addicted to drama lol.

[GoldHeart]

Yes it was clever but the religious folk online weren’t too impressed


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I don't see why ,when Khaled is religious/ Muslim
anyway. It's not like an atheist was pretending to pray :shrug: .

[jet]

Diddums.:laugh:

Khaled isn't hurting anyone with a fake prayer lol.

Maybe he was praying for guidance for the task that lay ahead....:hee:

[GoldHeart]

It's BB Housemates.

95% of them are addicted to drama lol.

This is also true lol

But I get the feeling some of them never know when to drop things. I think Nathan,Daze & Ali continue to fight to have the last word .

[Mystic Mock]

Maybe he was praying for guidance for the task that lay ahead....:hee:

Well you might be right on that tbf.

Another reason why that tweet that Zizu put up is being harsh towards him imo.

[Mystic Mock]

This is also true lol

But I get the feeling some of them never know when to drop things. I think Nathan,Daze & Ali continue to fight to have the last word .

Tbf I can relate to the three of them on that.:laugh:

[Zizu]

I don't see why ,when Khaled is religious/ Muslim
anyway. It's not like an atheist was pretending to pray :shrug: .


It is kinda belittling ..using something sooo important to trick someone


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[jet]

Khalid was excellent in the way he handled the killer nomination. He gave very clear and fair reasons - and he respectfully shut Ali up when she once again stuck her nose in....she was floundering for a change! :bouncy:

[GoldHeart]

It is kinda belittling ..using something sooo important to trick someone


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Oh come on :rolleyes:

[GoldHeart]

Khalid was excellent in the way he handled the killer nomination. He gave very clear and fair reasons - and he respectfully shut Ali up when she once again stuck her nose in....she was floundering for a change! :bouncy:

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[Zizu]

Oh come on :rolleyes:


Not to me or you .,

Some religious folk see things differently


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[Garfie]

It's going to kick off , Khaled is now the scapegoat. And his nomination power gives them another excuse to bitch about him.

You were so right with this prediction.

[Mystic Mock]

Not to me or you .,

Some religious folk see things differently


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They're probably a bit more extreme though imo.

[Zizu]

They're probably a bit more extreme though imo.


Too right .. some people get stoned to death for less !!


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[Mystic Mock]

Too right .. some people get stoned to death for less !!


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Some get it for being raped which is just... Interesting.:umm2:

[Garfie]

She's mad he's not clear about how he feels and is being fake and now he's being honest and she's like "Stop being fake!"... no, she's digging...

"You're accusing me of villifying you"... "now everyone will perceive this"... but it's OK for her to label him fake?...

This was my thought process. Personally, I didn’t see any problem with the way he expressed himself, and his explanation for his difficult decision was logical. I don’t think he deserves to be attacked, and I have to agree with Nathan’s comments. It's like everything he does is perceived as negative by some housemates, whether it’s justified or not. He can’t win!

[Abra]

Khaled was great tonight in how he stood up to Ali, her targeting of him has truly been the strangest thing of this season so far.

[Maru]

Oh come on… he didn’t go at Ali the same way he was going at and has gone at Daze before. He didn’t like that she “insulted” him by calling him out on how he speaks to her.

Sorry, missed this and didn't see it in time.

Talking to Daze & Ali are night and day. I think Daze would be easier in some ways, because for the most part, she's just hyper-emotional and needs a sounding board. It would be easier to listen to what she has to say than to try to force some point. That doesn't mean that others don't also need the chance to be heard, and in Daze's case, she wasn't just accusing him of a faux pas, she made it very personal and said he was being vicious... (which she then shifts and says the crime was that it made her feel it was vicious...)

Ali would try as usual to get people to concede to her points so that her unique observational skills are openly acknowledged. It wouldn't go anywhere after a point if she starts talking "at" a person rather than with them. If she wants to state her feelings as facts, that's her prerogative. So to that...

I do agree with you with Nathan on the last bit. He will gravitate towards the highest power in the current friend group (clearly Ali). (Or I should say the current group most welcoming to him)

I think as far as the two people whom were having some issues with him, the less that is said is better. Both have strong views of some of the people they live with and are trying to frame it in a way that makes it appear less harmless/hostile. It's OK to dislike someone. I'm not on board with this idea of being forced to get on with anyone in the house (especially in a particular way), as long as that person is honest with themselves and acts accordingly, then I think that's perfectly fine. His relationship with Ali is clearly better than it is with Daze, but I don't see how that's a Nathan problem per say. Daze could solve that problem but frequently opts for conflict because her particular complex has her thinking that because others don't readily acknowledge her in the room, it automatically means they must massively dislike her somehow... hence the accusations about appearing to be "vicious."

Most of the issues happening right now come from the fact that some of the HMs clearly think they're smart enough to navigate themselves around issues by talking the loudest. The public will see right through it anyway, so there's absolutely no point in talking oneself into circles just to score a few extra points to "look less bad".

Khaled could took a chill pill as far as being overly reactionary, but I think for the large point he's done "OK".

Daze, imo, if she had 5-10 more years on her in terms of life experience, she could actually do a stellar job in BB. She has the character and the ideas to go with it. She needs to learn to speak clearly her about points without involving her own emotion so heavily. People are generally thirsty for conversation (and conflict even). It's just become a lost art. Conflict does not have to be toxic, harmful or deleterious to anyone's emotional health to be successful. Conflict can be used to form tighter bonds with one another and it's about the only meaningful way we can manage disagreement. Allowing people like Ali to infantilize her in the house so Ali can satisfy her own savior complex are not doing her any favors. It helps Ali because of course it does, but it robs Daze of a valuable opportunity to go beyond her current understandings of life and learn for herself what exists outside any walls she's maybe self-created.

Ali is Ali. Enough has been said on the point, so it doesn't need repeating.

I want both Ali and Daze to be better than they're being. They have a lot to contribute, but going very poorly about it atm. Nathan is adjusting to the game as far as I can tell and is not appearing to be going out of his way to seek conflict (just saying his piece), so it's a hard pill for me to swallow to suggest he's actively trying to pursue starting something up with anyone in there.

Sorry for the word wall. I went out for a walk at the park and had more thoughts, apparently. So please consider this a general posting of my thoughts rather than a reply.

Edit: Rewording

[Cherie]

Too right .. some people get stoned to death for less !!


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He didn't fake pray though, he actually prayed, using it as an excuse to clear the room

[Zizu]

He didn't fake pray though, he actually prayed, using it as an excuse to clear the room


Thats not how some perceived it though


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[Maru]

He's mentioned prayer numerous times on the show (it sounds like he does a lot), so I didn't think much of it. It's the first time they showed him actually praying though, so if it timing looks bad, maybe blame BB?

[Zizu]

He's mentioned prayer numerous times on the show (it sounds like he does a lot), so I didn't think much of it. It's the first time they showed him actually praying though, so if it timing looks bad, maybe blame BB?


Well he had no intention of praying he just used it to move the guys out of the way .. that’s what bothered some people online
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[Adamw92]

Nathan does like to wind Daze up I've noticed.:laugh:

I do think she could've worded herself better though, because "vicious attack" does sound OTT.:laugh:

And I do like both Nathan and Daze.

Oh he definitely enjoys it but all I was trying to say is that I can see why she felt like he was attacking her because he loves to try and put her in her place by winding her up and he did it again last night yet didn’t try and go for Ali until Ali spoke up in defence of Daze even though he disagreed with Ali just as much with the nomination argument. I can see why Daze feels like he’s targeting her even if he doesn’t mean to, I don’t think it helped with the way he came at her and tried to force an apology from her for saying “vicious attack” even if she used it when she probably could have worded it differently.

[Beso]

Khalid was excellent in the way he handled the killer nomination. He gave very clear and fair reasons - and he respectfully shut Ali up when she once again stuck her nose in....she was floundering for a change! :bouncy:

Exactly how i saw things..

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[GoldHeart]

Khaled was great tonight in how he stood up to Ali, her targeting of him has truly been the strangest thing of this season so far.

:clap1:
Khaled conducted himself so well

[GoldHeart]

Well he had no intention of praying he just used it to move the guys out of the way .. that’s what bothered some people online
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Those people online need to get out more and get fresh air , they sound like they've been cooped up too much .

[Abra]

Well he had no intention of praying he just used it to move the guys out of the way .. that’s what bothered some people online
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Maybe he killed two birds with one stone and prayed at the same time

Anyway, people need to chill :laugh:

[Zizu]

Those people online need to get out more and get fresh air , they sound like they've been cooped up too much .


They share the same religion as Khaled - is the point ..

It matters not a jot to us ..


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[Vanessa]

They never learn. Another rule break :joker: