A Coven of Witches is forming

[Lister of Smeg]

Ali, Daze and Lilly are forming a coven :nono:. Fortunately the house has an Inquisition led by Nathan, Khalid and Izaaz who will banished them from the house :cheer2:.

[Glenn.]

Women who don’t take **** from men are witches now?

[caprimint]

You leave Lily out of this

[Lister of Smeg]

You leave Lily out of this

I can see the wart forming on her nose :nono:

[Beso]

I dont mind Daze, she very likeable. The other 2 though, very unlikeable. Daze needs to distance herself from them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Women who don’t take **** from men are witches now?

One burst in to tears for being mildly critised the other threw a tantrum and threatened to walk

That really isn't "don't take sh1t"

🤣

[GlitterUK]

Ali is the ring leader, thinks she is above other people.

[Glenn.]

One burst in to tears for being mildly critised the other threw a tantrum and threatened to walk

That really isn't "don't take sh1t"

🤣

Says a dismissive “man”

[Glenn.]

Ali is the ring leader, thinks she is above other people.

She is. Far more intelligent than anyone in there.

[caprimint]

I can see the wart forming on her nose :nono:
Probs a bogey :worry:

[Beso]

She is. Far more intelligent than anyone in there.

Super mega intelligent..

Shes super mega intelligent and has managed to have the whole house under her control...


Oh wait, no, it's only Lily.

[thesheriff443]

Probs a bogey :worry:

She probably smeared bogeys all over her house

[GlitterUK]

They didn't show her wiping her nose on the oven glove in the highlights. Gross.

[GoldHeart]

I dont mind Daze, she very likeable. The other 2 though, very unlikeable. Daze needs to distance herself from them.

Daze is close to Lily & Ali , can't see her distancing herself. I definitely think Ali & Lily are alot worse. But I think Daze will be evicted.

[Beso]

Daze is close to Lily & Ali , can't see her distancing herself. I definitely think Ali & Lily are alot worse. But I think Daze will be evicted.

Are the three of them close though? Or is it just what the 3 of them have been left with..

Take lily and Ali for instance, it was like someone had smeared poop under alis nose when lily was on about picking her nose the other day... now all of a sudden shes laughing and joking about it with her.. it just, just feels so put on and fake for me, I'm afraid

[Lister of Smeg]

Ali is the ring leader, thinks she is above other people.

Exactly the head witch.

[GoldHeart]

Are the three of them close though? Or is it just what the 3 of them have been left with..

Take lily and Ali for instance, it was like someone had smeared poop under alis nose when lily was on about picking her nose the other day... now all of a sudden shes laughing and joking about it with her.. it just, just feels so put on and fake for me, I'm afraid

Well yeah Ali & Lily's friendship is BS...I've said I don't think Ali would have anything to do with Lily on the outside,I think it's for convenience , part of a game plan.
But the 3 of them gravitate . If Daze gets evicted...that dynamic will likely change.

[vesavius]

Ali, Daze and Lilly are forming a coven :nono:. Fortunately the house has an Inquisition led by Nathan, Khalid and Izaaz who will banished them from the house :cheer2:.

I just used this same word in a post I made without seeing this one.

Needless to say, I agree mostly.

I would swap out Izaaz for Marcello, because Izaaz lacks any kind of spine or strength enough to be considered an ally to anyone and at least Marcello stood up for Khaled when they were on the sofas.

Ali and Daze are the worst, I think Lily is just being dragged along for numbers.

It's weird that self proclaimed 'liberals' are often the most authoritarian and controlling.

[vesavius]

Well yeah Ali & Lily's friendship is BS...I've said I don't think Ali would have anything to do with Lily on the outside,I think it's for convenience , part of a game plan.
But the 3 of them gravitate . If Daze gets evicted...that dynamic will likely change.

Agree.

[Ammi]

…I don’t think that a coven of witches is forming at all but I do feel a divide forming…that might all diffuse though depending on who is evicted this week as there are some key elements to that divide in the mix for possible eviction…

[vesavius]

…I don’t think that a coven of witches is forming at all but I do feel a divide forming…that might all diffuse though depending on who is evicted this week as there are some key elements to that divide in the mix for possible eviction…

I know a good few actual witches that I really like, so ok maybe that isn't fair I admit.

But Ali and Daze are an alliance from hell.

[Kazanne]

They didn't show her wiping her nose on the oven glove in the highlights. Gross.

Nor her wanting to smell Nathans fart !!!!! what was that one all about?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Double, double toil and trouble:
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble.

By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes.

Nathan and Khaled shall never vanquished be until
Cart-wheel catastrophe Martha to high The Bogey Queen Lilly
Shall come against Them.

What's done cannot be undone.

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[Jessica.]

God forbid women have a few conversations without a man around! :shocked:

[rusticgal]

She is. Far more intelligent than anyone in there.


She tries to come across as intelligent but she really isn't...

[Vanessa]

Lily is actually ok. Not a nasty person.

[vesavius]

She tries to come across as intelligent but she really isn't...

Yeah, agree with this. she really is not at all insightful or really that bright. She simply regurgitates a handful of cliche terms based on prejudiced self self-influenced surface observations.

Education =/= intelligence

[Zizu]

Lily is actually ok. Not a nasty person.


I am up and down with her .. I find her unpredictable and volatile plus so many disgusting habits

She can go for me


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[GoldHeart]

Nor her wanting to smell Nathans fart !!!!! what was that one all about?

She's disturbed
Another housemate... was it Emma or Hannah said? , they're wondering what Lily will do next re: her awful habits.

[Kazanne]

She's disturbed
Another housemate... was it Emma or Hannah said? , they're wondering what Lily will do next re: her awful habits.

I agree,Why would you not be embarrassed to do and show the things she is doing to the public ?

[Kazanne]

Lily is actually ok. Not a nasty person.

I will wager she is Vanessa.:wavey:

[Benjamin]

Lily is actually ok. Not a nasty person.

I beg to differ. She was a bitch about Sarah on launch night.

[Beso]

I beg to differ. She was a bitch about Sarah on launch night.

Yeah, the voice mimicking was downright nasty

[Glenn.]

She tries to come across as intelligent but she really isn't...

Yeah, agree with this. she really is not at all insightful or really that bright. She simply regurgitates a handful of cliche terms based on prejudiced self self-influenced surface observations.

Education =/= intelligence

I’d love to see both of your qualifications you have in psychology.

I mean you both clearly have them for you to make such insightful claims.

I’ll wait

[vesavius]

I’d love to see both of your qualifications you have in psychology.

I mean you both clearly have them for you to make such insightful claims.

I’ll wait

Dude, the forum is not about us as forum members, it's about HMs.

If you have a point to make about them go for it, but I won't be jumping up and down to validate my opinions on a TV show to you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dude, the forum is not about us as forum members, it's about HMs.

If you have a point to make about them go for it, but I won't be jumping up and down to validate my opinions on a TV show to you.

amen

[Zizu]

Yeah, agree with this. she really is not at all insightful or really that bright. She simply regurgitates a handful of cliche terms based on prejudiced self self-influenced surface observations.

Education =/= intelligence


I’m pretty certain she is intelligent.. seems quite apparent tbh


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[vesavius]

I’m pretty certain she is intelligent.. seems quite apparent tbh


Nah, I have met way too many well spoken people that that have gone to decent Unis who are utter dunces.

I never assume intelligence just because a person can trot out a few cliches and has a nice accent.

[Glenn.]

Dude, the forum is not about us as forum members, it's about HMs.

If you have a point to make about them go for it, but I won't be jumping up and down to validate my opinions on a TV show to you.

I mean I think the point I was trying to make is pretty obvious. I guess not though :shrug:

Ali is far more qualified to make these observations. You know, that’s what she does.

[vesavius]

Ali is far more qualified to make these observations. You know, that’s what she does.

Ali is more than capable of dishonest prejudiced self serving takes.

I do not trust her observations or the motivations behind them.

[GoldHeart]

I’d love to see both of your qualifications you have in psychology.

I mean you both clearly have them for you to make such insightful claims.

I’ll wait

Do you have a degree in psychology then ?. The funny thing is this is exactly how Ali behaves...she is treating Khaled like a therapy patient or something, she's in a social experiment.... she's not at work, she thinks she's an expert . She needs to stop over analysing & scrutinizing the poor guy.

We're on this forum to give our views on housemates,and I believe Ali has shown her true colours. I know you like her ...but she has let herself down .

[Glenn.]

Ali is more than capable of dishonest prejudiced self serving takes.

I do not trust her observations or the motivations behind them.

She was right in her observation of him though. He was false and the little speech he made was the cringiest thing I’ve seen on BB.

[vesavius]

She was right in her observation of him though. He was false and the little speech he made was the cringiest thing I’ve seen on BB.

Are you qualified to make that judgement?

We can wait.

Just a joke. No I disagree with you and your take on this though.

[Zizu]

Nah, I have met way too many well spoken people that that have gone to decent Unis who are utter dunces.

I never assume intelligence just because a person can trot out a few cliches and has a nice accent.


In discussions or conversations ?

I agree on people like Daze who just lectures everyone


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[Glenn.]

Do you have a degree in psychology then ?. The funny thing is this is exactly how Ali behaves...she is treating Khaled like a therapy patient or something, she's in a social experiment.... she's not at work, she thinks she's an expert . She needs to stop over analysing & scrutinizing the poor guy.

We're on this forum to give our views on housemates,and I believe Ali has shown her true colours. I know you like her ...but she has let herself down .

I’m saying she has more of an insight than we do. It’s the perfect place for a psychologist. Years ago a psychologist used to be part of the show if you remember.

[GoldHeart]

She was right in her observation of him though. He was false and the little speech he made was the cringiest thing I’ve seen on BB.

False how?:conf: , BB told him to give his nomination and the reason why . I think he was logical in his approach. If you want to know real cringe ,I think a few other housemates spring to mind. Khaled was calm and mature.

[Glenn.]

Are you qualified to make that judgement?

We can wait.

Just a joke. No I disagree with you and your take on this though.

Cool

[Glenn.]

False how?:conf: , BB told him to give his nomination and the reason why . I think he was logical in his approach. If you want to know real cringe ,I think a few other housemates spring to mind. Khaled was calm and mature.

Oh I’m talking about what started the whole thing. The speech he gave at the party.
Then he went upstairs to everyone else and checked in on them.

[vesavius]

In discussions or conversations ?

I agree on people like Daze who just lectures everyone


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Well, both.

But, yeah, Daze is another who initially gives off that first impression of intelligence until you hear her actually speak.

Ali is clearly brighter than Daze, but that bar is pretty low.

[Beso]

She was right in her observation of him though. He was false and the little speech he made was the cringiest thing I’ve seen on BB.

More cringy than Lily showing us how intelligent she is by showing us she can shout up to 60?


Are you sure glenn?

[GoldHeart]

I’m saying she has more of an insight than we do. It’s the perfect place for a psychologist. Years ago a psychologist used to be part of the show if you remember.

Oh dear :rolleyes:, like I said If Ali wants to psycho analyse the housemates ......maybe she should have observed outside the house with her pen & paper. People
like Judi James never lived in the BB house with the housemates, it's an entirely different ball game what
you're talking about.

Those psychologist's are paid to make judgements & to study people's body language & behaviour. None of them have ever socially lived with or gotten to know the housemates they talk about, they're just a fascinating case study on a screen for them.

Plus they can also be wrong in their diagnosis/ theories, I wonder how many of these psychologists would admit
they pre judged someone based on a certain behaviour pattern,to then realise the person is actually genuine.

[GoldHeart]

Oh I’m talking about what started the whole thing. The speech he gave at the party.
Then he went upstairs to everyone else and checked in on them.

He noticed a bad vibe/ things being off ,so he went to check. To which Ali snapped at him . Suddenly it's a crime to be concerned and nice I guess :idc: .

[Glenn.]

More cringy than Lily showing us how intelligent she is by showing us she can shout up to 60?


Are you sure glenn?

Yep

Oh dear :rolleyes:, like I said If Ali wants to psycho analyse the housemates ......maybe she should have observed outside the house with her pen & paper. People
like Judi James never lived in the BB house with the housemates, it's an entirely different ball game what
you're talking about.

Those psychologist's are paid to make judgements & to study people's body language & behaviour. None of them have ever socially lived with or gotten to know the housemates they talk about, they're just a fascinating case study on a screen for them.

Plus they can also be wrong in their diagnosis/ theories, I wonder how many of these psychologists would admit
they pre judged someone based on a certain behaviour pattern,to then realise the person is actually genuine.

No you’re right! Living with someone 24/7 and watching an hour edit is the same thing.

[Glenn.]

He noticed a bad vibe/ things being off ,so he went to check. To which Ali snapped at him . Suddenly it's a crime to be concerned and nice I guess :idc: .

When it’s fake af yes

[Ammi]

Oh dear :rolleyes:, like I said If Ali wants to psycho analyse the housemates ......maybe she should have observed outside the house with her pen & paper. People
like Judi James never lived in the BB house with the housemates, it's an entirely different ball game what
you're talking about.

Those psychologist's are paid to make judgements & to study people's body language & behaviour. None of them have ever socially lived with or gotten to know the housemates they talk about, they're just a fascinating case study on a screen for them.

Plus they can also be wrong in their diagnosis/ theories, I wonder how many of these psychologists would admit
they pre judged someone based on a certain behaviour pattern,to then realise the person is actually genuine.

…yeah, I do agree that to ‘professionally analyse’ then she would have to have detachment from that situation and person and with this she doesn’t have that detachment but that’s still being applied and focusing a lot on Khaled…and in doing that, she’s kind of fallen into prejudgement …ironically one of the very things that her profession self wouldn’t or shouldn’t do…it’s all very ironic, really…I think she’s very much an over thinker and fear she’s over thought herself into unhappiness in the house and suspicion…

[Glenn.]

Her ADHD will play a massive factor into this too.

[GoldHeart]

Yep


No you’re right! Living with someone 24/7 and watching an hour edit is the same thing.

But that's my point ,Judi and her Psychologist buddies aren't living in the house, yet Ali IS living in the house...but she can't see past the therapy side to things. I'll be the first to admit,I enjoy a good body language analysis and I find that type of thing interesting...I even wish I studied psychology , because the brain alone is amazing,and I enjoy learning what makes people tick .

But Ali seems to just pick apart everything Khaled does, you would think she'd be more understanding the fact that she has ADHD etc ,and I can bet she'd hate being wrongly perceived or judged etc .


Are you actually saying Khaled is more cringe than goblin Lily !?? , nah you have to be trolling ..I'm dead at this ridiculous notion:skull: :crazy:

[Glenn.]

He’s disingenuous. It’s fake.

Lily is very much real. Annoying and disgusting as she is, she’s not fake with people

[Beso]

Yep



No you’re right! Living with someone 24/7 and watching an hour edit is the same thing.



And you expect to be taken seriously. Omg.:hehe:

[Glenn.]

And you expect to be taken seriously. Omg.:hehe:

When did I say that? I’m just posting my opinions.

[Beso]

When did I say that? I’m just posting my opinions.

Yes, indeed.

Try keeping them about the housemates.

[Glenn.]

Yes, indeed.

Try keeping them about the housemates.

Like you’re doing right now?

Practice what you preach.

[GoldHeart]

He’s disingenuous. It’s fake.

Lily is very much real. Annoying and disgusting as she is, she’s not fake with people

Imagine preferring Lily scruff pot over cool Khaled ...I just can't :skull: .

[Glenn.]

Imagine preferring Lily scruff pot over cool Khaled ...I just can't :skull: .

Cool

[Beso]

We need Martha to join them, and take over as leader...


So I can use martha and the muffins, without talking about her overhang.

[vesavius]

We need Martha to join them, and take over as leader...


So I can use martha and the muffins, without talking about her overhang.

Now I have had to stick Echo Beach on.

[Abra]

Women who don’t take **** from men are witches now?

What "****" have any of the men put them through? They have just created issues with Khaled for no reason and then act shocked and victimise themselves when it backfired on them. At least Daze and Nathan have an actual cause for debate and conflict.

[Zizu]

Now I have had to stick Echo Beach on.


Gotta love those one hit wonders !


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[Glenn.]

What "****" have any of the men put them through? They have just created issues with Khaled for no reason and then act shocked and victimise themselves when it backfired on them. At least Daze and Nathan have an actual cause for debate and conflict.

Ali’s issue was with Khaled faking concern for the guys not at the party. His fake humble act when he won HoH after playing for hours to win it.

[rusticgal]

Dude, the forum is not about us as forum members, it's about HMs.

If you have a point to make about them go for it, but I won't be jumping up and down to validate my opinions on a TV show to you.


Brilliant…:laugh:

[Abra]

Ali’s issue was with Khaled faking concern for the guys not at the party. His fake humble act when he won HoH after playing for hours to win it.

That's just not true because by that point she had already been going after him for days, bitching about him behind his back, and trying to twist every little thing he did to fit her narrative of him. It blew up on the night of the HoH party because him winning HoH and getting immunity threw a spanner in the works in her plan to target him. Now she's trying to play the victim because it didn't work and she got called out for it, and she ended up getting nominated by her HM's instead. Imo not everything is "men vs women", none of the men in the house have done anything to them.

[Glenn.]

Cool

[Zizu]

That's just not true because by that point she had already been going after him for days, bitching about him behind his back, and trying to twist every little thing he did to fit her narrative of him. I.


You got all that from a 5 second clip of Ali and Lily discussing Khaled ?!?

Astonishing


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[GoldHeart]

That's just not true because by that point she had already been going after him for days, bitching about him behind his back, and trying to twist every little thing he did to fit her narrative of him. It blew up on the night of the HoH party because him winning HoH and getting immunity threw a spanner in the works in her plan to target him. Now she's trying to play the victim because it didn't work and she got called out for it, and she ended up getting nominated by her HM's instead. Imo not everything is "men vs women", none of the men in the house have done anything to them.


:clap1:
Exactly
She was gunning for him well before HOH , him winning HOH jeopardised her. And she couldn't hide how annoyed she was . She was hoping the whole house would side with her delusions.

[Abra]

You got all that from a 5 second clip of Ali and Lily discussing Khaled ?!?

Astonishing


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...No? :conf: She had spoken about him behind his back several times before HoH, starting since she walked into his conversation with Hannah.

[Beso]

...No? :conf: She had spoken about him behind his back several times before HoH, starting since she walked into his conversation with Hannah.

Yep..spot on..that is exactly where all this started. She thought she needed to check on hannah cause she was left alone with the muslim man.

I think shes racist myself.:shrug:

[ThomasC]

Yep..spot on..that is exactly where all this started. She thought she needed to check on hannah cause she was left alone with the muslim man.

I think shes racist myself.:shrug:

That is a very bold statement.

If that is true why does she only feel like Khaled is fake?

[Beso]

That is a very bold statement.

If that is true why does she only feel like Khaled is fake?

Because shes only racist towards muslim men, and the way she percieves them to be around women. Her being big on feminism in her trans rights t shirt, and all that.

[ThomasC]

Because shes only racist towards muslim men, and the way she percieves them to be around women. Her being big on feminism in her trans rights t shirt, and all that.

I think it's outrageous really. Classical pull out the racism card because she doesn't get on with 1 housemate despite there being 3 Muslims?..

In there.

Get a grip

[Glenn.]

Because shes only racist towards muslim men, and the way she percieves them to be around women. Her being big on feminism in her trans rights t shirt, and all that.
There it is!

Knew we would get there eventually

[Beastie]

Just caught up on last night's ep. Daze accusing Nathan of a "vicious attack" Pathetic.

[Abra]

Yep..spot on..that is exactly where all this started. She thought she needed to check on hannah cause she was left alone with the muslim man.

I think shes racist myself.:shrug:

I haven't seen anything that would make me think she is racist, I just think that she thought Khaled would be an easy target and it backfired.

[Adamw92]

Yep..spot on..that is exactly where all this started. She thought she needed to check on hannah cause she was left alone with the muslim man.

I think shes racist myself.:shrug:

Oh come on… this is just clutching at straws. Anyone could quite easily point out that out of all the candidates who hadn’t been up for eviction last week to give the killer nomination to Khaled chose Martha… the only woman despite there already being 3 women up and despite how he nominated two of those women… does that make him a misogynist?

[vesavius]

Just caught up on last night's ep. Daze accusing Nathan of a "vicious attack" Pathetic.

And the fact that she wouldn't walk it back.

Daze is the first person to complain about 'damaging language' and the like yet is happy to use such extreme terms to negatively image another.

Not to mention Ali, who also cares so much about being made to look bad on TV to the public by being labelled as unpleasent things, didn't seem to care much either.

Only when it suits or effects them, I guess.

[vesavius]

I haven't seen anything that would make me think she is racist, I just think that she thought Khaled would be an easy target and it backfired.

I agree with this take.

[GlitterUK]

Yeah that is spot on I think. Thought he would be an easy target but he stands his ground, thinks his answers out and is one of the most genuine in there for me.

[flashlightening]

Women who don’t take **** from men are witches now?


Ali is a witch she just wants to be superior

[Zizu]

Ali is a witch she just wants to be superior


This has to be a second account - one of Ali’s serial haters ..


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[GoldHeart]

Ali is a witch she just wants to be superior

I find it pathetic that she's took it upon herself to be offended on Hannah's behalf as well , when Hannah & Khaled squashed that drama a week ago. That had nothing to do with Ali ,she needs to mind her own business. She just keeps coming up with excuse after excuse to dislike Khaled.

His apology was from the heart ,her apology was half arsed and nothing about it was genuine. She projects her own problems & issues onto Khaled,and is blaming him for her own feelings. She had no valid reasons to dislike him ,and no matter how many times she tries to deny it ...she most definitely IS picking on him & has caused this whole argument.

She had the nerve to act like it wasn't her own doing,she needs to take responsibility and accountability. She is 38 for goodness sake. She's a condescending block of ice .

[Zizu]

I find it pathetic that she's took it upon herself to be offended on Hannah's behalf as well , when Hannah & Khaled squashed that drama a week ago. That had nothing to do with Ali ,she needs to mind her own business. She just keeps coming up with excuse after excuse to dislike Khaled.

His apology was from the heart ,her apology was half arsed and nothing about it was genuine. She projects her own problems & issues onto Khaled,and is blaming him for her own feelings. She had no valid reasons to dislike him ,and no matter how many times she tries to deny it ...she most definitely IS picking on him & has caused this whole argument.

She had the nerve to act like it wasn't her own doing,she needs to take responsibility and accountability. She is 38 for goodness sake. She's a condescending block of ice .


Wow


All that hatred pent up for 24 hours !!


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