Not only is Ali an obnoxious control freak she is wildly inconsistent

[vesavius]

First, really bored of her constantly attempting to control the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

[GlitterUK]

Cannot stand the bully. Her treatment of Khaled was awful. She is a hypocritical cold bitch.

[Mrluvaluva]

Personally I wouldn't pander to her opinions. I would call her out, but then again, like you say, she's very dismissive. I agree with every word. With discussion comes clarity. She has shown many times that she states her opinion and then walks away because she thinks she is quite correct in her viewpoints.

She needs a reality check.

[GlitterUK]

She reminds me of Roxanne Palette from celeb bb in the way she goes about things. There is some real hate within her like Roxy was with that poor lad.

[Mrluvaluva]

She's made Khaled feel uncomfortable. Now Marcello. She's been **** stirring about Sarah and others. She was **** stirring to Lily on live feed on Saturday night. If it's your aim in life to do that then that's not a great attribute in a person.

[GlitterUK]

She is too busy commenting on others, she needs to look at her own actions before judging others.

[Maru]

Everything does conveniently seem to work out to be about how Ali is always right. That's always been a red flag for me for BB HMs. Nobody is 100% right all the time. And yet she's incredibly self-aware she leaves this perception because she's often prepping people with "I'll admit fault, if X" and how she's ready to concede different views, but never seems to find herself in a position to actually have to do the work to do so. It's always conveniently done when it works in her favor.

There are times we should actively take part in sharing blame with others, instead of picking it apart looking for inaccurate bits. Especially when there are relationships that could be worth salvaging or maintaining. This isn't the same as someone being angry at themselves for not getting it right. Or being sorry that another person as a result "feels bad". Or even worse, reduces another person's main complaints in a disagreement to be lesser than, more like simple clerical errors in judgement. Sometimes though people will turn around their massive errors to be more like a compliment that seemingly works against themselves :laugh:... "my virtuousness got the best of me".

People that work in that way will generally reduce others down to their level of score-keeping, so we never really get in touch with the real them. We sort of just get reminded our placement on some imaginary scoreboard. Of course, it is conveniently rigged to work out so that where they are forced to admit fault lies, it's usually something only they themselves can actually analyze using their self-made special rubric.

Personally I wouldn't pander to her opinions. I would call her out, but then again, like you say, she's very dismissive. I agree with every word. With discussion comes clarity. She has shown many times that she states her opinion and then walks away because she thinks she is quite correct in her viewpoints.

She needs a reality check.

Yes, she does that to control the other person I feel like and enjoys the fact it makes them feel distressed that they can't resolve issues with her easily. They have to approach it in a way where it's going to put themselves in a position to feel vulnerable and for her, that makes them easier to provoke. It sometimes hard for someone being in this treated this way to admit to themselves that this person can be so methodical, because they prefer to believe there's some middle road option. People like that will see that, though, and take advantage of it.

She really does seem to interpret Khaled's willingness to be gracious towards others as as a weakness. Her problem is not that he is "fake". It's more that he clearly is imaginary, because the idea of someone having that willingness to connect to others is too foreign, or maybe even scary, because God forbid there be a person in her world who competes with her inner Therapy Goddess. It also says a lot about the depth of her character and how she interprets that as a character flaw if she were to show any signs of vulnerability and second-guessing around others.

Marcello does try to console people too and I've noticed he uses a lot of positivity-language also when dealing with others. I wonder if that's another reason he was pegged, is that he's gone too far and is contradicting her friendly doctor friend position too much. Just a guess. It's not like Marcello hasn't been shifting space and time to violate other personal boundaries, but that wasn't even her main complaint...... perhaps she feels if says the quiet part outloud, it'll make her gameplan too obvious, so she had to come up with the "Actually, my job will be in trouble" nonsense.

Just some speculations.

[GlitterUK]

If you are that concerned for your job don't come on BB. She has a superiority complex.
Like others has said she is a Poundland Sigmund Freud.

Man hater -
Put Ryan in storage on day 1 over Martha yet he was Blue team which confused us back then but makes sense now
Dislike of Khaled/seed planting
Calling Khaled out in group setting
what would she do if she was PM - give men a curfew
Lily can talk about being horny, suck toes, sit with her legs wide open and be vulgar yet nothing said.
Emma can be vulgar, Sarah also nothing said.
Rosie part of the sex chat yet doesn't get any initial flak
The general way she talks down to men
Shaming Marcello in a group setting when talking about sex stuff belittling him.

She tries to control others. For someone who is a psychologist she is judgemental, patronising, calculated and a master manipulator and not someone I would want to work with.

People use excuses like it is her ADHD etc but it is not she has a stinking attitude.

She is however an entertaining housemate and divides the audience.

[bots]

I don't think Ali deals with individual "patients" on a personal level. She doesn't appear to be a doctor, so how could she get struck off.

If she had patients, could she just leave them to someone else for 6+ weeks to go on a TV show? Is that not more of a red flag to any disciplinary board than what someone says on a TV show? This doesn't add up to me. Is she a BB mole? I'm sensing something a bit fishy

[Zizu]

She is too busy commenting on others, she needs to look at her own actions before judging others.


They are all continuously talking about other housemates - that’s because there’s nothing else to do .

You realise that , surely ?


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[Beso]

I don't think Ali deals with individual "patients" on a personal level. She doesn't appear to be a doctor, so how could she get struck off.

If she had patients, could she just leave them to someone else for 6+ weeks to go on a TV show? Is that not more of a red flag to any disciplinary board than what someone says on a TV show? This doesn't add up to me. Is she a BB mole? I'm sensing something a bit fishy

Bb rat

[bots]

Bb rat

i doubt she really is a bb plant, but her professional life isn't exactly clear, and she hasn't done anything to clarify it

[Ammi]

First, really bored of her constantly attempting to [b]control[b] the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

…yeah I think ‘control’ is exactly the right word and way of it…with that conversation, I personally don’t think it was so much the content of it…(…although, she didn’t like the content…)…but I personally think that it was more that she couldn’t leave as BB had gathered them on the sofa…?…so it’s that lack of or giving up of ‘control’ and I honestly think that’s what Ali is struggling with…she tried to close down Marcello by saying that she KNEW what would get her struck off the register with her job…I mean, that’s just nonsense, it really is…to say that it’s ok with the register and employers to go into the BB house but not to be present for any content that she isn’t a part of anyway…no, it’s all nonsense and very controlling nonsense and levelled at people to close them down and say…don’t you dare question me, how in heavens would you know…!!!!!!!!…..

[Ammi]

…I wonder if BB see these characteristics in people through the interview stages and think….ooooooo, yeah…controlling would be good, that’ll bring some drama…or if they don’t see them and they just unfold once the housemates enter the house…it’s quite interesting…

[bots]

controlling personality is not a typical trait of a psychiatrist :laugh:

[Ammi]

controlling personality is not a typical trait of a psychiatrist :laugh:

…Ali’s a forensic psychologist, though and the skill set with different sections of psychology will also differ…as well as training obviously…but it’s not necessarily something that would display within her job role anyway, is it…it can be there as something which creates a ‘balance’ outside of work…?…like for instance and I’m just throwing this out there in a moment, I haven’t given it any thought etc…:laugh:…but so much of her job/work role could be out of her control in the things she will be made aware of in human behaviour because she deals with the criminal mind, as it were…?…so ‘controlling’ in other aspects of her life could be a coping tool that she uses, if that makes sense…obviously I’m just making all of that up and pondering what you said….

[bots]

i've never heard of the role forensic psychologist before. Forensic basically means evidenced based research to my thinking. It sounds more like a desk job. A forensic accountant for example examines figures. I'm not convinced she has any dealings with "patients", so how could she get struck off :laugh:


To me, there is more to what she is not saying rather than what she is sharing

[Ammi]

i've never heard of the role forensic psychologist before. Forensic basically means evidenced based research to my thinking. It sounds more like a desk job. A forensic accountant for example examines figures. I'm not convinced she has any dealings with "patients", so how could she get struck off :laugh:


To me, there is more to what she is not saying rather than what she is sharing

…she may not directly be ‘face to face’ with offenders…(…but then she may be, also because some forensic psychologists will…)…but the job role I think, would involve profiling alongside police and investigation teams so pretty grim things and crimes etc …I mean, she’s obviously been drawn to that as a career so it’s obviously also something that her character ‘fits’, you know…?…

[Crimson Dynamo]

I mean pretending that

Going on Big Brother is not an issue with her job

But listening to someone talk about "sex" is

Is beyond fanciful

[FromBB8]

I'd have thought her behaviour in the house would be putting her job more at risk than listening to the housemates talk about sex.

[bots]

the other thing is, her job is likely to be more of a freelance role. I basically think she is spinning a yarn to the hm's

[Ammi]

the other thing is, her job is likely to be more of a freelance role. I basically think she is spinning a yarn to the hm's

…I’m not sure about spinning a yarn, that’s something that would be revealed so quickly, wouldn’t it…the media would have been on that…but I think she’s manipulating and using some things as a way to control…’if you continue with the sex chat and inferences etc, then you’re putting my whole career at risk…’…that’s not a good look from her at all, is it…

[thesheriff443]

If her parents were going to be shocked and upset by that conversation how did their heads not fall of their shoulders when she told them she is now a lesbian

[Maru]

controlling personality is not a typical trait of a psychiatrist :laugh:

She's not a psychiatrist as I think they handle medications and are more like clinicians. She'd have pilled Lily by now and sent her labs in to clamp down on the chronic screaming and nosepicking behavior.

[rusticgal]

Cannot stand her...she is one manipulative bitch who constantly spills hypocrisy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

…I wonder if BB see these characteristics in people through the interview stages and think….ooooooo, yeah…controlling would be good, that’ll bring some drama…or if they don’t see them and they just unfold once the housemates enter the house…it’s quite interesting…

I doubt its that subtle


all they heard was "blah blah blah blah blah lesbian blah blah blah"

tick

[AnnieK]

She is so far out of her comfort zone, I actually feel quite concerned for her. The BB house is obviously not the right environment for her to be in.

The behaviour she is exhibiting looks like total defence mechanisms but she is not realising how bad it is making her look trying to control the narrative for everyone.

I think she will come to regret this experience dearly.

[FromBB8]

She is so far out of her comfort zone, I actually feel quite concerned for her. The BB house is obviously not the right environment for her to be in.

The behaviour she is exhibiting looks like total defence mechanisms but she is not realising how bad it is making her look trying to control the narrative for everyone.

I think she will come to regret this experience dearly.

The irony being, if she could just be more friendly towards Khaled, I think he could be someone who could help her through it. From what we've heard on the live feed from Daze and Sarah, he's been very supportive towards them through tough moments.

[Zizu]

She is so far out of her comfort zone, I actually feel quite concerned for her. The BB house is obviously not the right environment for her to be in.

The behaviour she is exhibiting looks like total defence mechanisms but she is not realising how bad it is making her look trying to control the narrative for everyone.

I think she will come to regret this experience dearly.


.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series



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[arista]

controlling personality is not a typical trait of a psychiatrist :laugh:


Forensic Psychologist

[FromBB8]

.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series

Just imagine when she is voted out and starts reading all the awful criticisms aimed at her on TwitterX … AND on THIS forum .. and then does something unthinkable !!


You will all be partly to blame ..


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Then it's up to the producers to manage the situation effectively in, and also outside of, the House, particularly in supporting Ali. Your approach seems to be that Ali should be above criticism for her behaviour in the House. That's just not feasible considering the public vote is purely based on how we perceive and judge the housemates.

[AnnieK]

:conf:.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series

Just imagine when she is voted out and starts reading all the awful criticisms aimed at her on TwitterX … AND on THIS forum .. and then does something unthinkable !!


You will all be partly to blame ..


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Is this posted at me as I have not said anything on this forum, or anywhere else, that I wouldn't feel comfortable saying to a person's face. :shrug: I would absolutely NOT love Ali or anyone falling apart in the name of entertainment,

You yourself have been critical of many reality stars over the years, I remember your dislike for Ekin-Su during her time on Love Island and you were pretty vocal then and so you cannot put blame on people for voicing an opinion on a forum for a TV show that someone has voluntarily applied for and gone on.

I appreciate you feel quite protective of Ali for various reasons but people are allowed to have other thoughts and feelings and express them.

[Ammi]

Forensic Psychologist

…indeed sir, there are multiple branches of psychology and Ali isn’t in any type of social psychology so far as I know…profiling of criminal behaviours and looking at typical behaviour patterns and how to help in directing them in more healthy ways is very specific…in a house of criminals and offenders etc…she’d be very valuable, I would say…very insightful …but maybe her career makes her quite ‘suspicious and paranoid’ in observing behaviour as well and actions and reactions…/…she might over think and over study in people who she doesn’t know so well…I still find her interesting, I have to say….

[Ammi]

.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series

Just imagine when she is voted out and starts reading all the awful criticisms aimed at her on TwitterX … AND on THIS forum .. and then does something unthinkable !!


You will all be partly to blame ..


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…no, we really and sincerely wouldn’t, Zizu…that would be pretty horrific and uncomfortable …if there are a few who feel that and want that…?….then that would be a tiny minority I would say…

[vesavius]

.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series

Just imagine when she is voted out and starts reading all the awful criticisms aimed at her on TwitterX … AND on THIS forum .. and then does something unthinkable !!


You will all be partly to blame ..


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I make it a habit to not talk about the forum members here and ty to keep it about the HMs and show, but this is a disgusting post.

So much wrong with it that I cba to break it down.

[Niamh.]

i've never heard of the role forensic psychologist before. Forensic basically means evidenced based research to my thinking. It sounds more like a desk job. A forensic accountant for example examines figures. I'm not convinced she has any dealings with "patients", so how could she get struck off :laugh:


To me, there is more to what she is not saying rather than what she is sharing

What does a forensic psychologist do?
A Forensic Psychologist, sometimes referred to as a Criminal Profiler, works with law enforcement agencies to develop a brief profile of criminals, based on common psychological traits. In their line of work they study the behavior of criminals and address anything from psychological theories to legal issues.

[Niamh.]

:conf:

Is this posted at me as I have not said anything on this forum, or anywhere else, that I wouldn't feel comfortable saying to a person's face. :shrug: I would absolutely NOT love Ali or anyone falling apart in the name of entertainment,

You yourself have been critical of many reality stars over the years, I remember your dislike for Ekin-Su during her time on Love Island and you were pretty vocal then and so you cannot put blame on people for voicing an opinion on a forum for a TV show that someone has voluntarily applied for and gone on.

I appreciate you feel quite protective of Ali for various reasons but people are allowed to have other thoughts and feelings and express them.

Exactly. This is what BB is about. It seems very selective moral high grounding depending on which HMs he likes/dislikes.

[Gusto Brunt]

Cannot stand the bully. Her treatment of Khaled was awful. She is a hypocritical cold bitch.

I wouldn't go as far as saying I can't stand her, but she is a rather dull person who using what she does in her day job, to try and twist what the housmates say or are feeling.

She doens't have a sense of humour and I find everything she says in small talk tedious. :p

[Ammi]

What does a forensic psychologist do?
A Forensic Psychologist, sometimes referred to as a Criminal Profiler, works with law enforcement agencies to develop a brief profile of criminals, based on common psychological traits. In their line of work they study the behavior of criminals and address anything from psychological theories to legal issues.

…bots is still a bit of an apprentice when it comes to true crime stuff and the criminal mind…

[Niamh.]

…bots is still a bit of an apprentice when it comes to true crime stuff and the criminal mind…

:hehe:

Oh I watched that show as well Sweet Bobby, crazy

[bots]

i'm a slow horse

[Vicky.]

She said something along the lines of 'you aren't listening to me so the conversation is over' to Marcello too..so basically if you don't capitulate to me there's no point in talking. Kind of got my back up tho I don't like him either

[Zizu]

Then it's up to the producers to manage the situation effectively in, and also outside of, the House, particularly in supporting Ali. Your approach seems to be that Ali should be above criticism for her behaviour in the House. That's just not feasible considering the public vote is purely based on how we perceive and judge the housemates.


I actually think she shouldn’t have gone in .. on the first place .. the production team also have a responsibility/ duty of care though .
If she suffers any kind emotional distress they will get some serious criticism from many different groups.

They would have definitely put measures in place if she had some kind of visible ( not visual) impairment.


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[Zizu]

:conf:

Is this posted at me as I have not said anything on this forum, or anywhere else, that I wouldn't feel comfortable saying to a person's face. :shrug: I would absolutely NOT love Ali or anyone falling apart in the name of entertainment,

You yourself have been critical of many reality stars over the years, I remember your dislike for Ekin-Su during her time on Love Island and you were pretty vocal then and so you cannot put blame on people for voicing an opinion on a forum for a TV show that someone has voluntarily applied for and gone on.

I appreciate you feel quite protective of Ali for various reasons but people are allowed to have other thoughts and feelings and express them.


It was aimed at all the people who are relentlessly targeting Ali often unjustly.. sometimes predicting what despicable thing she will do next ..


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[Niamh.]

Sounds about right.

She said something along the lines of 'you aren't listening to me so the conversation is over' to Marcello too..so basically if you don't capitulate to me there's no point in talking. Kind of got my back up tho I don't like him either

Yeah I don't like either of them much so it's a lot easier imo to be objective. I don't like a lot of things he says but this situation was ridiculous and Ali was totally in the wrong and very selective in who she called out, there were others involved in that conversation not just Marcello. That conversation was pretty tame and something you should really expect in the BB house

[Zizu]

:conf:

Is this posted at me as I have not said anything on this forum, or anywhere else, that I wouldn't feel comfortable saying to a person's face. :shrug: I would absolutely NOT love Ali or anyone falling apart in the name of entertainment,

You yourself have been critical of many reality stars over the years, I remember your dislike for Ekin-Su during her time on Love Island and you were pretty vocal then and so you cannot put blame on people for voicing an opinion on a forum for a TV show that someone has voluntarily applied for and gone on.

I appreciate you feel quite protective of Ali for various reasons but people are allowed to have other thoughts and feelings and express them.


Ekin Sue wasn’t autistic


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[Zizu]

I make it a habit to not talk about the forum members here and ty to keep it about the HMs and show, but this is a disgusting post.

So much wrong with it that I cba to break it down.


I didn’t name anyone.. if you feel bad thats on you ..

Some nasty ‘personal’ things maybe shouldn’t be said /posted on a public forum as they can come back and bite ..

imho


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[FromBB8]

I actually think she shouldn’t have gone in .. on the first place .. the production team also have a responsibility/ duty of care though .
If she suffers any kind emotional distress they will get some serious criticism from many different groups.

They would have definitely put measures in place if she had some kind of visible impairment.


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Isn't that the issue with these kinds of shows, though? You could argue if any of the Housemates go through any kind of emotional distress then there's going to be backlash. To an extent, there is now.

The more I do see of her the more I agree with you that it probably wasn't the best move for her to go in. Now the producers will have to handle the fallout, not only with the actions in the house but also the upcoming public vote and the message it will potentially send out. They are on dodgy ground and I can accept the argument they have at least partly brought it on themselves.

[Zizu]

I wouldn't go as far as saying I can't stand her, but she is a rather dull person who using what she does in her day job, to try and twist what the housmates say or are feeling.

She doens't have a sense of humour and I find everything she says in small talk tedious. :p


Having a sense of humour is something rarely attributed to autistic people .. indeed.

::::::

Some autistic people both get and make jokes of the more “traditional” variety. But some people with autism simply don’t find popular joke types or structures amusing. While they may get the point of a funny anecdote or something that is visually or physically funny, they may struggle with more contrived types of humour.


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[Ammi]

She said something along the lines of 'you aren't listening to me so the conversation is over' to Marcello too..so basically if you don't capitulate to me there's no point in talking. Kind of got my back up tho I don't like him either

… oh absolutely I’m the same and was the same with Khaled also…in their own characters are not in any way related to any actions or reactions of Ali …Marcello isn’t someone that could be a favourite for me and that hasn’t changed throughout just because of Ali displaying controlling aspects…

[bots]

She is getting everyone talking about her, so she must be doing something right

[Ammi]

Yeah I don't like either of them much so it's a lot easier imo to be objective. I don't like a lot of things he says but this situation was ridiculous and Ali was totally in the wrong and very selective in who she called out, there were others involved in that conversation not just Marcello. That conversation was pretty tame and something you should really expect in the BB house

…I do also think the sex and screaming is relevant as well as I made the thread about but probably explained badly ….Ali couldn’t remove herself from that conversation so she made it felt how unacceptable she found that…?…but we so far haven’t seen any agreement from her that others also find it unacceptable that they can’t remove themselves from high pitched screaming…hmmmm, I’m thinking she might have actually defended Lily even….

[Niamh.]

…I do also think the sex and screaming is relevant as well as I made the thread about but probably explained badly ….Ali couldn’t remove herself from that conversation so she made it felt how unacceptable she found that…?…but we so far haven’t seen any agreement from her that others also find it unacceptable that they can’t remove themselves from high pitched screaming…hmmmm, I’m thinking she might have actually defended Lily even….

Yep absolutely. The screaming would wreck my head. That "eeeeeeeeeee" sound is like it's almost chosen to maximise the annoyance in other people too, it's an awful sound

[bots]

…I do also think the sex and screaming is relevant as well as I made the thread about but probably explained badly ….Ali couldn’t remove herself from that conversation so she made it felt how unacceptable she found that…?…but we so far haven’t seen any agreement from her that others also find it unacceptable that they can’t remove themselves from high pitched screaming…hmmmm, I’m thinking she might have actually defended Lily even….

She said something along the lines of, it's how lily lets off steam/deals with the stress

[vesavius]

I didn’t name anyone.. if you feel bad thats on you ..

Some nasty ‘personal’ things maybe shouldn’t be said /posted on a public forum as they can come back and bite ..

imho


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Your passive aggressive nonsense is transparent.

Anyhow, thought you were done? Why are you still hanging around? If you are gonna flounce and make a drama exit post at least have the self respect to stay gone.

I don't feel bad. You don't have the ability to make me feel that way and I have never spoke anything but the truth regarding Ali. If her actions can't stand up to that then she is playing very poor game of BB.

[Ammi]

She is getting everyone talking about her, so she must be doing something right

…oh I don’t disagree that she gives great discussion…but the world has changed since back in the day BB and ‘hate by social media’ is much more a thing and pretty grim and it’s awful to see anyone become ‘hated’ for being in a reality show…so being a discussion point isn’t something I’d always want for a housemate…these are the conflicts that we fans have….

[bots]

Your passive aggressive nonsense is transparent.

Anyhow, thought you were done? Why are you still hanging around? If you are gonna flounce and make a drama exit post at least have the self respect to stay gone.

no need for that, i like having Zizu around

[vesavius]

no need for that, i like having Zizu around

Police someone else. I'm not interested.

[bots]

Police someone else. I'm not interested.

hands up punk

[Niamh.]

no need for that, i like having Zizu around

Police someone else. I'm not interested.

hands up punk

:hehe:

But yes, lets try not to get personal (including Zizu) everyone is allowed air their opinions on here, even about your fav :nono:

[vesavius]

hands up punk

:bored:

[AnnieK]

Ekin Sue wasn’t autistic


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She was still human.....and capable of being affected by words

[jones89]

First, really bored of her constantly attempting to control the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

The “you’re not going to agree with me” was hilarious and you’re right, sums her up perfectly.. seen that too with Khaled, he wasn’t 100% agreeing with her when they had that chat and then she was for walking :joker:

[Zizu]

Your passive aggressive nonsense is transparent.

Anyhow, thought you were done? Why are you still hanging around? If you are gonna flounce and make a drama exit post at least have the self respect to stay gone.

I don't feel bad. You don't have the ability to make me feel that way and I have never spoke anything but the truth regarding Ali. If her actions can't stand up to that then she is playing very poor game of BB.


I would honestly prefer to not be posting on the BB series but I keep having to explain myself to people like you


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[Vicky.]

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

Ah yeah that was it..somehow missed this part of OP :laugh:

[vesavius]

I would honestly prefer to not be posting on the BB series but I keep having to explain myself to people like you


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No, you don't.

[vesavius]

The “you’re not going to agree with me” was hilarious and you’re right, sums her up perfectly.. seen that too with Khaled, he wasn’t 100% agreeing with her when they had that chat and then she was for walking :joker:

She's awful. She demands utter compliance and worship, or you're a problem nail to be hammered.

[Niamh.]

She's awful. She demands utter compliance and worship, or you're a problem nail to be hammered.

That's probably why her and Lily are so close because she literally hero worships her and she can control her easily

[Kazanne]

.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series



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It's not that deep Zizu, people just don't like her after the way she has been,she would have been vetted before going in,she wont leave, she just needs to stop telling other people what they should be doing and saying and stop thinking she is above everyone else.

[Kazanne]

I would honestly prefer to not be posting on the BB series but I keep having to explain myself to people like you


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We get you idolise her Zizu,some of us don't it's that simple, I like Nathan but he is getting some negativity now,that's just the nature of the game, none of them will give a toss in a few weeks time.

[caprimint]

I agreed with everything she said to Marcello, she's absolutely right that he can talk that **** to his friends but if she felt uncomfortable about it then she shouldn't be forced to listen to it. The way he speaks in general is so disgusting and definitely not "adult" or "maturely" at all like he claims it is and I'm shocked nobody has called him out already tbh. He legit acts like a horny teenager and it's beyond gross and embarrassing

[Niamh.]

I agreed with everything she said to Marcello, she's absolutely right that he can talk that **** to his friends but if she felt uncomfortable about it then she shouldn't be forced to listen to it. The way he speaks in general is so disgusting and definitely not "adult" or "maturely" at all like he claims it is and I'm shocked nobody has called him out already tbh. He legit acts like a horny teenager and it's beyond gross and embarrassing

In general I agree with you but that particular discussion wasn't bad at all, at least Marcellos part in it anyway(for once), as others have said he wasn't the only one participating in it but he seemed to be the only one that Ali had the issue with afterwards.

[FromBB8]

In general I agree with you but that particular discussion wasn't bad at all, at least Marcellos part in it anyway(for once), as others have said he wasn't the only one participating in it but he seemed to be the only one that Ali had the issue with afterwards.

Everyone knows I'm not a fan of All but Marcello called her for a chat, not the other way round. From that, she seemed for offended by him calling her out than the original conversation, when she called out the group. She just focused on Marcello due to a facial expressions he subsequently pulled.

[vesavius]

I agreed with everything she said to Marcello, she's absolutely right that he can talk that **** to his friends but if she felt uncomfortable about it then she shouldn't be forced to listen to it. The way he speaks in general is so disgusting and definitely not "adult" or "maturely" at all like he claims it is and I'm shocked nobody has called him out already tbh. He legit acts like a horny teenager and it's beyond gross and embarrassing

And a person fully has the right to not like that, but pretending that her job depended on it was cheap and manipulative. Shutting down conversations that you don't personally like is toxic and controlling. A normal person in a shared situation simply chooses to not be part of it for the couple of minutes it is happening.

Instead of sitting in judgement of the conversations of others, she might want to actually try and be interesting enough to have a conversation of her own with people she likes (if she actually likes anyone in there, which I doubt).

But, yeah, he didn't say anything wild... These conversations have happened literally every year. Emma's jokes have been way way more crude (but I still like her).

This wasn't about what he said though,not really. It was about it being a long five minutes since Ali had shut someone down and she loves doing that way too much.

[Kazanne]

I agreed with everything she said to Marcello, she's absolutely right that he can talk that **** to his friends but if she felt uncomfortable about it then she shouldn't be forced to listen to it. The way he speaks in general is so disgusting and definitely not "adult" or "maturely" at all like he claims it is and I'm shocked nobody has called him out already tbh. He legit acts like a horny teenager and it's beyond gross and embarrassing

So why doesn't she have that conversation with Lily ? as she is also gross and annoying,maybe she doesn't like men.

[BBXX]

Didn't he say he was an ejactulation machine or words to that effect. Ali said "It's fine when it's just in the house as I can walk away". She's freely admitting that everyone is free to say what they want and she'll remove herself, but on this occasion, she couldn't and was asking for a favour on not discussing such things while she was in the situation she couldn't remove herself from. I honestly think that's completely fair enough.

We know, though we haven't really been shown, how Marcello is. I can't imagine how it must be biting your tongue on the way he speaks to and about women for so long. About time someone finally called him out.

[BBXX]

Shutting down conversations that you don't personally like is toxic and controlling.

Talking about you ejaculating in front of people you've known for 2 weeks when they're in a situation they can't remove themselves from is worse. Judging them for raising it as an issue is also manipulative.

[Zizu]

No, you don't.


There you go again .. predicting what someone is going to say or do ..
Baseless nonsense


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[Beso]

Is there a possibility the real Ali is locked up in a cupboard somewhere and this is one of her "clients"

[Zizu]

She's awful. She demands utter compliance and worship, or you're a problem nail to be hammered.


The vast majority of your posts are like this ..all pretty much baseless

Just your weird take on things rehashed as facts


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[Zizu]

It's not that deep Zizu, people just don't like her after the way she has been,she would have been vetted before going in,she wont leave, she just needs to stop telling other people what they should be doing and saying and stop thinking she is above everyone else.


Its kinda who she is .. a lot of it is out of her control .. sadly unless you’ve ‘lived it’ people will never understand

She shouldn’t be in there as I said

I would be shocked if her parents and girlfriend aren’t in talks with the producers to get her out of there asap


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[Cherie]

Zizu, I understand where you are coming from, you can post in her fan thread and nothing negative can be posted in there so maybe you can still participate but only in a positive way?

It is a discussion forum so like Love Island positive and negative posts are going to appear

[Zizu]

We get you idolise her Zizu,some of us don't it's that simple, I like Nathan but he is getting some negativity now,that's just the nature of the game, none of them will give a toss in a few weeks time.


I do like her .. a lot .. I’m a sucker for a beautiful face but I also think I understand her , her ways , how she understands things, how she reacts to things .. as I am on the same page 99.9% of the time- for obvious reasons


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[Zizu]

Zizu, I understand where you are coming from, you can post in her fan thread and nothing negative can be posted in there so maybe you can still participate but only in a positive way?

It is a discussion forum so like Love Island positive and negative posts are going to appear



Fans threads are for gushing compliments.. thats not really my style . I have just posted some nice photos of her

Sadly I have spent 90% of my energies DEFENDING something Ali has said or done or disagreeing with nasty , unjust comments aimed at her - in other threads


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[Zizu]

In general I agree with you but that particular discussion wasn't bad at all, at least Marcellos part in it anyway(for once), as others have said he wasn't the only one participating in it but he seemed to be the only one that Ali had the issue with afterwards.


Serious question

How much of that whole conversation did we get to hear ?
I’d guess it was far more than was shown ..

So everyone maybe basing their opinions unfairly-there may have been loads more unsuitable things discussed


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[Beso]

Fans threads are for gushing compliments.. thats not really my style . I have just posted some nice photos of her

Sadly I have spent 90% of my energies DEFENDING something Ali has said or done or disagreeing with nasty , unjust comments aimed at her - in other threads


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What housemates do you not like zizu.?

[Gusto Brunt]

Having a sense of humour is something rarely attributed to autistic people .. indeed.

::::::

Some autistic people both get and make jokes of the more “traditional” variety. But some people with autism simply don’t find popular joke types or structures amusing. While they may get the point of a funny anecdote or something that is visually or physically funny, they may struggle with more contrived types of humour.


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I didn't know she has autism. But all the same, she is still boring. Lots of autistic people in showbiz aren't dull like she is. So no excuse.

[vesavius]

The vast majority of your posts are like this ..all pretty much baseless

Just your weird take on things rehashed as facts


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Keep it to the HMs.

You are personalising this all way too much. Go outside for a bit and calm down.

[Zizu]

Keep it to the HMs.


Apologies


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[Beso]

I didn't know she has autism. But all the same, she is still boring. Lots of autistic people in showbiz aren't dull like she is. So no excuse.

She hasnt been diagnosed with Autism, by a professional. She has self diagnosed herself.

[Gusto Brunt]

She hasnt been diagnosed with Autism, by a professional. She has self diagnosed herself.

:joker::joker: Says it all about her then. High and mighty she thinks she can supercede a professional doctor.:joker:

[Zizu]

What housemates do you not like zizu.?


Not keen on Martha who’s shown us nothing of herself imho

I dislike the vulgar side of Marcello but he has some nice traits..


I don’t mind the rest tbh


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[Zizu]

I didn't know she has autism. But all the same, she is still boring. Lots of autistic people in showbiz aren't dull like she is. So no excuse.


Every autistic person is totally unique but they all share many traits at the same time ..


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[Zizu]

She hasnt been diagnosed with Autism, by a professional. She has self diagnosed herself.


You keep saying that ..

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[Zizu]

:joker::joker: Says it all about her then. High and mighty she thinks she can supercede a professional doctor.:joker:

This is one of the flaws with forums
You have been influenced by one of Ali’s fiercest critics ..


See above post


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[Niamh.]

Everyone knows I'm not a fan of All but Marcello called her for a chat, not the other way round. From that, she seemed for offended by him calling her out than the original conversation, when she called out the group. She just focused on Marcello due to a facial expressions he subsequently pulled.

Yes, my mistake, I hadn't watched the full show yet(I have now) just seen some clips from it

[FromBB8]

You keep saying that ..

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I think everyone appreciates that but, at the same time, it should not give anyone carte blanche to be free of criticism for their behaviour in the house.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I will just leave this here

really nasty..

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[bots]

it's not nasty at all

[Maru]

I can't wait til she's voted out.

[FromBB8]

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

[Niamh.]

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

Because she knows they're right probably

[vesavius]

This is one of the flaws with forums
You have been influenced by one of Ali’s fiercest critics ..


See above post


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That text says nothing about self-diagnosis or not.

[Zizu]

I think everyone appreciates that but, at the same time, it should not give anyone carte blanche to be free of criticism for their behaviour in the house.


Not so much an excuse more a possible explanation


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[Zizu]

That text says nothing about self-diagnosis or not.


You’d rather take notice of one of Ali’s haters ?


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[jones89]

Is there a possibility the real Ali is locked up in a cupboard somewhere and this is one of her "clients"

You know whaaaa?.. we’re gonna have to look into this cause that didn’t even cross my mind :joker:

[Beso]

This is one of the flaws with forums
You have been influenced by one of Ali’s fiercest critics ..


See above post


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To use your logic..

They havnt met her.
They are judging on a condensed clip heavily edited by bb.

[vesavius]

You’d rather take notice of one of Ali’s haters ?



Sometimes

[Zizu]

Sometimes


Nuff said


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[caprimint]

In general I agree with you but that particular discussion wasn't bad at all, at least Marcellos part in it anyway(for once), as others have said he wasn't the only one participating in it but he seemed to be the only one that Ali had the issue with afterwards.
Marcello seemed to be the one leading the conversation though and he was the one who made the particular comment about "ejaculating" which is what I think she was uncomfortable listening to

And a person fully has the right to not like that, but pretending that her job depended on it was cheap and manipulative. Shutting down conversations that you don't personally like is toxic and controlling. A normal person in a shared situation simply chooses to not be part of it for the couple of minutes it is happening.

Instead of sitting in judgement of the conversations of others, she might want to actually try and be interesting enough to have a conversation of her own with people she likes (if she actually likes anyone in there, which I doubt).

But, yeah, he didn't say anything wild... These conversations have happened literally every year. Emma's jokes have been way way more crude (but I still like her).

This wasn't about what he said though,not really. It was about it being a long five minutes since Ali had shut someone down and she loves doing that way too much.
We don't know too much about the specific details of her job so it's difficult for anyone else to judge that fairly. She wasn't telling him to never speak about it, she just said she was uncomfortable being forced to be there when that conversation was taking place and to talk about it with his friends or others who he knows wants to partake in it, I don't think that's entirely unreasonable?

She's always (and was always) chatting with Lily, Nathan, Daze, Dean, Izaaz and even Khaled lately too, but considering she's got the most threads about her on here then she must be pretty interesting for you to keep discussing :fan:

She comes across as though she doesn't hide/hold back her thoughts and feelings and always says exactly what she thinks. It's normal human behaviour rather than "wanting to shut people down"

So why doesn't she have that conversation with Lily ? as she is also gross and annoying,maybe she doesn't like men.
The worst Lily has done is pick her nose :laugh: It's not even comparable. Ali gets on well with Nathan, Dean & Izaaz so saying she has an issue with men is a stretch just because she's had disagreements with a couple of them

[GlitterUK]

I think given what has happened to Ali personally she should be more aware of how she comes acts herself to others - she is bullying Khaled. Not seen the highlights or what they show but the parts I have seen she should be pulled up for bullying. Khaled has handled himself amazingly. He has remained calm and compassionate to her feelings and is always willing to give her another try. He is someone who just wants her to like him but she doesn't.

Looks like she could be self employed to me looking at her on the below site. States sessions from £100? be not taking referrals at present due to being on bb etc.
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[Niamh.]

I think given what has happened to Ali personally she should be more aware of how she comes acts herself to others - she is bullying Khaled. Not seen the highlights or what they show but the parts I have seen she should be pulled up for bullying. Khaled has handled himself amazingly. He has remained calm and compassionate to her feelings and is always willing to give her another try. He is someone who just wants her to like him but she doesn't.

Looks like she could be self employed to me looking at her on the below site. States sessions from £100? be not taking referrals at present due to being on bb etc.
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Thing is just because someone is a psychologist doesn't mean they're good people or actually suited to that profession either. They're just human beings like everyone else

[Swan]

She's a textbook modern day liberal.

[GoldHeart]

First, really bored of her constantly attempting to control the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

:clap1: perfectly put

And just as I predicted, Marcello is getting the brunt of it . Despite the fact Rosie & Dean were also involved in the chitter chat. Notice how Dean & Rosie nod and go along with Ali all the time .

Like Marcello said,he wasn't even aiming the conversation at Ali ,but once again block of ice takes it upon herself to be offended and to take everything so personal. No idea why she keeps bringing up her profession...if she's that worried & uncomfortable about what her job/ work colleagues think ... maybe she's on the wrong TV show.

It's also not fair of her to put that guilt on other housemates, she cannot police other people's conversations. And Marcello was right...it was an ' adult conversation ' .

Ali is condescending, stuck ,rude & extremely, controlling
& patronising & miserable . Any time anyone tries to clear the air with her ,or to explain themselves ... it's like banging their head against a brick wall.

And my goodness didn't she love smashing Marcello's glass portrait, like she had achieved something big .. spiteful vindictive woman :bored: .

[Gusto Brunt]

I can't wait til she's voted out.

She's getting on my ***s, too. :D

[GlitterUK]

That's probably why her and Lily are so close because she literally hero worships her and she can control her easily

Spot on, I think Lily also feeds back snippets to Ali.

[GoldHeart]

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

Because she loves the sound of her own voice,she tells people they're not letting her speak ...whilst she also rudely cuts them off ,when they're trying to defend themselves. She's a self righteous sour face ,with a superiority complex.

[GoldHeart]

Spot on, I think Lily also feeds back snippets to Ali.

Like her little puppet

[Crimson Dynamo]

Like her little puppet

pretty sure Ali fancies her too

[vesavius]

And my goodness didn't she love smashing Marcello's glass portrait, like she had achieved something big .. spiteful vindictive woman :bored: .

Did you get the impression that when she finally loses it she goes 100% ballistic?

It was a little eye opening.

[FromBB8]

Did you get the impression that when she finally loses it she goes 100% ballistic?

It was a little eye opening.

I do wonder, and that's why she shuts down or walks away from conversations. Because she feels herself losing control so wants to take a step back. I would have more respect if she said that - "Can we talk later as I just need time to myself" - rather than shutting conversations down as she is.

[GoldHeart]

Did you get the impression that when she finally loses it she goes 100% ballistic?

It was a little eye opening.

I was expecting her to explode,but it seems her automatic reaction is to just be cold & manipulative. Oh and when she really wants to make someone feel bad ,the moaning waterworks ( haven't actually seen tears ,but you know what I mean) come out .... like when she was threatening to leave the other week.

[vesavius]

I do wonder, and that's why she shuts down or walks away from conversations. Because she feels herself losing control so wants to take a step back. I would have more respect if she said that - "Can we talk later as I just need time to myself" - rather than shutting conversations down as she is.

Indeed

[vesavius]

I was expecting her to explode,but it seems her automatic reaction is to just be cold & manipulative. Oh and when she really wants to make someone feel bad ,the moaning waterworks ( haven't actually seen tears ,but you know what I mean) come out .... like when she was threatening to leave the other week.

Everyone has a limit, I just wonder if we have yet seen hers.

[FromBB8]

Everyone has a limit, I just wonder if we have yet seen hers.

I think we saw Ali's when she threatened to walk.

Edit: Mind you, she said to Dean on the LF yesterday she'd be ten times worse towards Khaled outside the house, so maybe not.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pronouns?

:joker:

Total red flag that she is a nutter

[GoldHeart]

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

It's hard to believe she's meant to listen to people's problems in her day job, she's too dismissive & is always shutting down people who disagree with her. Unless she only had time for people when she's getting paid,I guess her clients are just files and numbers to her.

[jamiewordsley]

I love her she is a mess, I go from loving to disliking her everydaym but Id rather have her in there over half the bores in there.

[Zizu]

I think given what has happened to Ali personally she should be more aware of how she comes acts herself to others - she is bullying Khaled. Not seen the highlights or what they show but the parts I have seen she should be pulled up for bullying. Khaled has handled himself amazingly. He has remained calm and compassionate to her feelings and is always willing to give her another try. He is someone who just wants her to like him but she doesn't.

Looks like she could be self employed to me looking at her on the below site. States sessions from £100? be not taking referrals at present due to being on bb etc.
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Wow

She really has gotten under your skin!!

All that super sleuthing just to hopefully find some more faults with her to be shared with your cronies ..

Shame


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[Beso]

You know whaaaa?.. we’re gonna have to look into this cause that didn’t even cross my mind :joker:

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[vesavius]

I think we saw Ali's when she threatened to walk.

Edit: Mind you, she said to Dean on the LF yesterday she'd be ten times worse towards Khaled outside the house, so maybe not.

Christ... She is actually terrifying

[vesavius]

Wow

She really has gotten under your skin!!

All that super sleuthing just to hopefully find some more faults with her to be shared with your cronies ..

Shame


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You do understand that the entire point of watching BB and coming to this forum is to discuss HMs, right?

[GoldHeart]

Christ... She is actually terrifying

Sounds like the therapist needs therapy herself.

She thinks she's above everyone else, like she's some delicate classy rose stuck in mud. she needs a reality check !

[jem-jem]

First, really bored of her constantly attempting to control the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

Absolutely agree, this girl can dish it out but can't take it. Why does she constantly feel the need to analyze everyone. Personally, I think she is jealous of the Baked Potato/Nathan romance. She's so arrogant.

[GoldHeart]

Absolutely agree, this girl can dish it out but can't take it. Why does she constantly feel the need to analyze everyone. Personally, I think she is jealous of the Baked Potato/Nathan romance. She's so arrogant.

I find the baked potato/ Nathan situation cringe . But I definitely think Ali is jealous ( obviously not in a romantic way) ...but she sees Nathan as her bestie friend being taken away,and suddenly she's got this possessive nature to her .

She tried to be protective to Hanah with the Khaled situation,but what she really wanted was to control the narrative as some SJW coming to Hannah's defence...so she could paint Khaled as the monster.

[Maru]

I find the baked potato/ Nathan situation cringe . But I definitely think Ali is jealous ( obviously not in a romantic way) ...but she sees Nathan as her bestie friend being taken away,and suddenly she's got this possessive nature to her .

She tried to be protective to Hanah with the Khaled situation,but what she really wanted was to control the narrative as some SJW coming to Hannah's defence...so she could paint Khaled as the monster.

I'm immensely proud of Hanah (as a literal nobody, obviously :laugh:) for not giving into that... I like to watch Hanah because she's a very good indicator of where the wind is blowing since she's very much her own influencer

[GoldHeart]

I'm immensely proud of Hanah (as a literal nobody, obviously :laugh:) for not giving into that... I like to watch Hanah because she's a very good indicator of where the wind is blowing since she's very much her own influencer

I noticed Hanah & Sarah seem to float more towards to boys anyway, I'm glad they don't just follow the crowd.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Our therapist needs a therapist!!

[Mrluvaluva]

She would make a good politician the way she dodges questions.

[jones89]

Oh it’s “point scoring” now.. i can’t with this woman :joker:

[Garfie]

Having seen the different articles that members have posted, I’m confused about Ali, her actual diagnosis and her actual profession, as the information seems to differ somewhat. From what I’ve read, rather than being Autistic, she has Autistic traits, and like in the general population, those traits can be positive or negative. For me, although I might understand the reason behind her behaviour, it doesn’t excuse her when she does something wrong. Just like everyone else, people with Autistic traits will make mistakes; the important thing is for them to step back, reassess if necessary, and learn from those mistakes. Those on the Spectrum might well need a trusted external individual to guide them in this.

Having said all that, I personally feel that Ali has made an unfair analysis of Khaled, on which she has fixated, and now everything he does or says is interpreted by her, based on her original judgement, Fixed thinking is often an Autistic trait, which, in this case, is serving her badly and leading her to treat Khaled in a very judgemental, harsh and unjust manner. He can’t win.

Appropriate social skills can also be a struggle for those on the Spectrum, and they can present badly in social settings. They will often lack the niceties of social interactions, because they just don’t always understand them. An Autistic trait in a social setting, is to share their thoughts openly, bluntly and directly, as to them that it honesty. However, they won’t always recognise that to others those comments might be hurtful and tactless. They also might well fail to recognise the impact their words could have on the person on the receiving end or feel they aren't doing anything wrong.

Do I understand why Ali is behaving as she is? Yes.
Do I agree with or like her behaviour towards either Khaled or Marcello? No.

It’s a shame that someone neutral and outside of the situation isn’t there to help her reflect on her behaviour and to reassess the way she is expressing herself. To me, she needs to be rethinking her harsh judgements, recognising that there are alternative reasons for Khaled’s actions, and to be reminded how to tackle these conversations in a more open-minded, tactful and considerate way.

There is definitely an element of control Ali is trying to have over people’s behaviours and perceptions, and over the ‘rules’ in the house. Like many on the spectrum, Ali will feel the need to control situations, because she can operate more comfortably in environments she feels she has some control over. Again, is that right, or fair on others? No. Does it make her a bad person? No. Will it, however, come across to others badly and make her quite difficult to live with? Yes.

[GlitterUK]

She is one of them people you cannot win with. You are doomed whether you do or don't with her. Once she has made her mind up about you that is it.

[Zizu]

Having seen the different articles that members have posted, I’m confused about Ali, her actual diagnosis and her actual profession, as the information seems to differ somewhat. From what I’ve read, rather than being Autistic, she has Autistic traits, and like in the general population, those traits can be positive or negative. For me, although I might understand the reason behind her behaviour, it doesn’t excuse her when she does something wrong. Just like everyone else, people with Autistic traits will make mistakes; the important thing is for them to step back, reassess if necessary, and learn from those mistakes. Those on the Spectrum might well need a trusted external individual to guide them in this.

Having said all that, I personally feel that Ali has made an unfair analysis of Khaled, on which she has fixated, and now everything he does or says is interpreted by her, based on her original judgement, Fixed thinking is often an Autistic trait, which, in this case, is serving her badly and leading her to treat Khaled in a very judgemental, harsh and unjust manner. He can’t win.

Appropriate social skills can also be a struggle for those on the Spectrum, and they can present badly in social settings. They will often lack the niceties of social interactions, because they just don’t always understand them. An Autistic trait in a social setting, is to share their thoughts openly, bluntly and directly, as to them that it honesty. However, they won’t always recognise that to others those comments might be hurtful and tactless. They also might well fail to recognise the impact their words could have on the person on the receiving end or feel they aren't doing anything wrong.

Do I understand why Ali is behaving as she is? Yes.
Do I agree with or like her behaviour towards either Khaled or Marcello? No.

It’s a shame that someone neutral and outside of the situation isn’t there to help her reflect on her behaviour and to reassess the way she is expressing herself. To me, she needs to be rethinking her harsh judgements, recognising that there are alternative reasons for Khaled’s actions, and to be reminded how to tackle these conversations in a more open-minded, tactful and considerate way.

There is definitely an element of control Ali is trying to have over people’s behaviours and perceptions, and over the ‘rules’ in the house. Like many on the spectrum, Ali will feel the need to control situations, because she can operate more comfortably in environments she feels she has some control over. Again, is that right, or fair on others? No. Does it make her a bad person? No. Will it, however, come across to others badly and make her quite difficult to live with? Yes.


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[Garfie]

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I know this discussion has been challenging tonight, Zizu. I’m hoping your comment here suggests that my rather long assessment of Ali and her condition has helped a little. I’ve tried to be as honest as possible here. Sending love to you, dear Zizu. :hug:

[GoldHeart]

She is one of them people you cannot win with. You are doomed whether you do or don't with her. Once she has made her mind up about you that is it.

Ali is gaslighting Khaled , and she is pleased with herself that she's put Marchy & Khaled up . She's weirdly going against Dean behind his back , she's completely nuts !.