Dean labelling Khaled as 'problematic'

[vesavius]

wtf is that about? How is Khaled 'Problematic' (god, I hate that word)

And Ali nodding along pretending to not be mean but loving it. We call that 'performative niceness', btw.

But, what has Khaled done to be close to being 'problematic'?

[GoldGlitter]

Dean right. He's petty stopping Lily becoming the head of house because she would prove him wrong. He looked so cocky after walking back after smashing the window.

[GlitterUK]

Problematic - could win it? Therefore needs to go?

[FromBB8]

Dean right. He's petty stopping Lily becoming the head of house because she would prove him wrong. He looked so cocky after walking back after smashing the window.

In that case, most of the Housemates are problematic. Most took glee in what they did. I don't think Ali could have thrown the hammer much harder at Marcello's.

[GlitterUK]

It was very Traitors esk task. Quite a few of them really went for it.

[Abra]

Dean right. He's petty stopping Lily becoming the head of house because she would prove him wrong. He looked so cocky after walking back after smashing the window.

She would prove him wrong about what?

[GlitterUK]

Being a good HOH I guess.

[GoldGlitter]

She would prove him wrong about what?

Khaled has been saying for ages that Lily would be bad in that position and Daze stuck up for her during the pm task.

[Benjamin]

Because most from the other side like and trust him, so he’s their biggest threat.

[Ammi]

…I didn’t understand the problematic description either but I agree with Benjamin, Khaled is a ‘popular threat’ in the house isn’t he, so they were reasoning things …there may be disconnections between housemates but tactics are at play also…

[arista]

wtf is that about? How is Khaled 'Problematic' (god, I hate that word)

And Ali nodding along pretending to not be mean but loving it. We call that 'performative niceness', btw.

But, what has Khaled done to be close to being 'problematic'?


I assume he was thinking of when
Khaled was the Prime Minister in the task last week

[bots]

He could simply be problematic because he wasn't easy to pair with an opposing housemate :laugh:

[GoldGlitter]

Ali is playing more of a game. She knew Rosie has a good chance of winning bb that's why she tried to pair her with Marcello. It was Dean was stuck up for her and put Khaled there instead.

[Oliver_W]

I suppose it depends on if he meant the word in the way people on twitter use it; or if he meant "a problem in the house", which could mean a handful of things from being hard or awkward to live with (which wouldn't necessarily be obvious in the highlights show) to being a more likely winner in their eyes.

Dean doesn't strike me as the terminally online type, so he probably wasn't using the twitter-saddo definition.

[FromBB8]

Looking back the morning after the night before I wonder whether he meant problematic as in "anti-Lily".

[Maru]

This one I could easily blame on **** editing. But I thought it was more likely he was tricky competition.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ali is jealous that BP has taken Nathan away from her

Watch her go after him now

[GoldGlitter]

Ali is jealous that BP has taken Nathan away from her

Watch he go after her now

That was Emma.

[Abra]

Khaled has been saying for ages that Lily would be bad in that position and Daze stuck up for her during the pm task.

Well I have to agree with Khaled :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

wtf is that about? How is Khaled 'Problematic' (god, I hate that word)

And Ali nodding along pretending to not be mean but loving it. We call that 'performative niceness', btw.

But, what has Khaled done to be close to being 'problematic'?


Dean & Ali together are like a couple of mean bitches,I actually understood part of their couple choices... until they got spiteful about Khaled & Marcello. Ali pretending she feels bad ,when really she doesn't care and probably enjoys it.

And I don't understand why she agreed to put 2 of her so called friends together ( Nathan & Izaaz) ,when she knows they dislike eachother. It felt like both her & Dean wanted to b a bit vindictive there for no reason.

[GoldHeart]

He could simply be problematic because he wasn't easy to pair with an opposing housemate :laugh:

It's jealousy aswell,they know Khaled is competition.

[GoldGlitter]

Well I have to agree with Khaled :laugh:

Lily has never been in that position. He's letting his ego cloud his judgement. He would want her to be the head of house to prove she's acting thick.

[GoldHeart]

Lily has never been in that position. He's letting his ego cloud his judgement. He would want her to be the head of house to prove she's acting thick.

He's right though
Lily would be a terrible HOH ,no doubt she'll probably get it at some point though :notimpressed: ....and then the screaming would be even worse .

[FromBB8]

Lily has never been in that position. He's letting his ego cloud his judgement. He would want her to be the head of house to prove she's acting thick.

How does that work when he smashed her portrait so she definitely wouldn't be Head of House?

[GlitterUK]

I think with someone like lily she will get to the final regardless of how annoying she is. Does HOH continue after this week so others have a shot?

[Mystic Mock]

I'm curious about that comment.

When did he make it?

[GoldHeart]

I'm curious about that comment.

When did he make it?

In the basement ,when they were doing the nomination twist .

[Mystic Mock]

In the basement ,when they were doing the nomination twist .

It's a bizarre comment though because Khaled hasn't really been "problematic" from what we've seen so far anyway.

[GoldHeart]

It's a bizarre comment though because Khaled hasn't really been "problematic" from what we've seen so far anyway.

It's all based on Ali's irrational hatred for Khaled, Dean is going along with it as he has no brain of his own.

[Mystic Mock]

It's all based on Ali's irrational hatred for Khaled, Dean is going along with it as he has no brain of his own.

Tbf Dean did push for Khaled to be paired with Marcello, he has somehow got away with that one.:laugh:

Dean is an odd one imo.

[GlitterUK]

I liked Dean up until he was HOH. I think he maybe wants to impress Ali? or maybe see's her as powerful.

[GoldHeart]

I liked Dean up until he was HOH. I think he maybe wants to impress Ali? or maybe see's her as powerful.

But funny things is Ali is throwing him under the bus to save her own skin, Dean is thick as 2 planks if he trusts Ali :joker:.

[Abra]

Lily has never been in that position. He's letting his ego cloud his judgement. He would want her to be the head of house to prove she's acting thick.

How would he want her to be head of house when he smashed her portrait? Lily would be a terrible HoH, maybe somewhat entertaining to watch because of just how terrible she would be, but let's not act like Khaled is wrong for saying that... :laugh:

[GlitterUK]

But funny things is Ali is throwing him under the bus to save her own skin, Dean is thick as 2 planks if he trusts Ali :joker:.
I don't think it is personal it s just desperate measures now she will throw anyone under to save herself.

[Ray.]

I'm curious about that comment.

When did he make it?

Given he's made no secret of how wary he was to be interacting with straight men when he first entered the house, it wouldn't surprise me that he meant Khaled was problematic in the far-left twitterati sense, sadly.

[Oliver_W]

Given he's made no secret of how wary he was to be interacting with straight men when he first entered the house, it wouldn't surprise me that he meant Khaled was problematic in the far-left twitterati sense, sadly.

That's one of the things which make him seem (to me) to be a bit of a relic - how can someone only a bit older than me have encountered so much homophobia from his peers? To the extent where he's actually wary of interacting with straight men? It doesn't really ring true.

[vesavius]

It's all based on Ali's irrational hatred for Khaled, Dean is going along with it as he has no brain of his own.

Mostly agree. This task is really exposing Dean though. He isn't Ali's dupe, I don't think.

He was playing a good game under the radar with his 'I'm just a nice guy who isn't used to being accepted' schtick, but we are starting to see him now and Ali and the spotlight of HoH is a core part of that.

This pairing is cold as ice and the others will regret deeply not removing them from the HoH pool.

I dislike both, either would have been in my targets in that breaking glass task, but I think Dean is more of an active player than people are giving him credit for. What we have seen so far isn't what Dean is, but this task is showing him up a little.

I actually think Ali noticed how Dean let her take all the damage over the fallout alone though more than she says and won't forget that going forward.

[GlitterUK]

I think the difference is you don't have horrible guys in there, most of them are lovely nice blokes.

[Mystic Mock]

Given he's made no secret of how wary he was to be interacting with straight men when he first entered the house, it wouldn't surprise me that he meant Khaled was problematic in the far-left twitterati sense, sadly.

Sadly, it does come across that way.

[Maru]

It's a bizarre comment though because Khaled hasn't really been "problematic" from what we've seen so far anyway.

There was a bit of code going on during that exercise as it seemed like half of their mutual impressions were agreed by facial expressions more than outright saying "X is blah". Unless BB cut something substantial out. Ali led a lot with silence, imo.

[eternal]

I liked Dean at the start but he's coming across badly in the last 2 episodes. Suckling up to Ali which is nauseating when she's been b1tching to others about him.

Hopefully he sees the light soon.

[Maru]

Given he's made no secret of how wary he was to be interacting with straight men when he first entered the house, it wouldn't surprise me that he meant Khaled was problematic in the far-left twitterati sense, sadly.

Yes, I think they share a similar gameplan, if not value set, and so they didn't have to worry as much about taking what the other might say about some of the choices for granted.. was my thought. I don't know that he meant problematic that specifically, but I thought maybe it was left open intentionally to mean a myriad of things at the same time.. or the editing cut off a lot of nuance that would've provided context. I couldn't rule out the latter because that whole scene seemed rushed. And we can't know a specific meaning obviously without more clues.

[GlitterUK]

Dean has quite a bit of an angry side.

[vesavius]

Dean has quite a bit of an angry side.

People need to wake up to Dean.

So far he has played the 'I'm a nice guy who is overwhelmed at being accepted' schtick to the hilt and flown under the radar as his game, but that isn't him. I am glad that this week is starting the put a spotlight on the real Dean. Even the HM on his side in all this is questioning his bullshit.

[FromBB8]

I just want Ali to confront Dean over the way he has approached this because I think she has a point. It was him who put Khaled with Marcello - he was originally with Sarah. But doing that, it did make it look like there was a hidden agenda, with those two being the only friends paired together, and people would automatically assume Ali was behind it as she had had confrontations with both.

[vesavius]

I just want Ali to confront Dean over the way he has approached this because I think she has a point. It was him who put Khaled with Marcello - he was originally with Sarah. But doing that, it did make it look like there was a hidden agenda, with those two being the only friends paired together, and people would automatically assume Ali was behind it as she had had confrontations with both.

Yes, but Ali did not stop him either. In fact, she made it way too clear that SHE couldn't do that as a thing.

She played him.

[FromBB8]

Yes, but Ali did not stop him either. In fact, she made it way too clear that SHE couldn't do that as a thing.

She played him.

And that's probably why she won't confront Dean about it. Because, if she did, he'd just ask why she agreed with him at the time.

[vesavius]

And that's probably why she won't confront Dean about it. Because, if she did, he'd just ask why she agreed with him at the time.

And he would be right to.

Rewatch that whole exchange if you get the time.

[GoldHeart]

What is Dean's place in the house ?, other than to keep drifting from Ali to Hanah. He keeps stroking Ali's ego. She's the organ grinder and he's her monkey.

And why does it look like Dean is wearing the same clothes every day ?....like he got his suitcase nicked ,or are all his clothes the same :skull: .