Ali. What a nasty piece of work

[Vanessa]

Gaslighting poor Khaled :fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

She has blown it tonight

Disaster edit for her

[Benjamin]

Throwing Dean under the bus too

[Vanessa]

Throwing Dean under the bus too

Did she forget that the cameras are running? She's lying left right and centre :laugh2:

[smudgie]

Playing the game.

[Adamw92]

Anyway… :rolleyes:

[Dogeatdog]

Yh threw Dean under the bus. I wonder if she’s still worried about her job? After tonight’s episode she should be.

[Swan]

Yeah she's a vile horrible bully.

[Lostie!]

She didn't "gaslight" anyone and it's a shame that's become a catch all buzzword for "this person said something I don't like"

[Ray.]

She seems a touch mentally unbalanced.

[rusticgal]

Such a liar…nasty bit of work. Hope she gets chants on Friday.

[Vicky.]

Can't stand her but am enjoying watching it :laugh:

[Adamw92]

She didn't "gaslight" anyone and it's a shame that's become a catch all buzzword for "this person said something I don't like"

That and the word bully are thrown around so easily these days.

[Vanessa]

She's lucky she's immune. But it's only for this week.

[rusticgal]

Yh threw Dean under the bus. I wonder if she’s still worried about her job? After tonight’s episode she should be.


She had Dean eating out of her hand…Dean talks like he is his own man but he is quite pathetic imo.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

She's been like this since day 2. I hope with all the rule breaking she is doing she is stripped of her hoh and nominated as well

[Maru]

She had Dean eating out of her hand…Dean talks like he is his own man but he is quite pathetic imo.

Excellent gameplay, tbh

[GoldGlitter]

I'm glad they saved Lily and Hanah. Dean looked like her lapdog. She would be willing to throw anyone under the bus.

[Black Dagger]

Gaslighting has become the new “bullying”

It’s funny how the whole house can claim everybody else is a fake but she can’t. Farcical

[Glenn.]

She is a queen

[Liam-]

We get it, he’s pretty

[ThomasC]

I like her a lot

She is a great housemate.

Don't get how Dean has pretty much avoided criticism when we saw he was driving most of the conversation.

[Swan]

Hannah just saying on L&L she's pretty much sussed Ali

[Mystic Mock]

Khaled was point scoring tbf.

Although having said that, I think that Ali really needs to see a Therapist about her issues with men.

[Glenn.]

On Late and Live, the nasty Khaled, Segun and Hannah are rattled and plotting

[Mystic Mock]

Yh threw Dean under the bus. I wonder if she’s still worried about her job? After tonight’s episode she should be.

She didn't do anything that bad.:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Red Witch is coming...

[Mystic Mock]

We get it, he’s pretty

:laugh:

[ThomasC]

That and the word bully are thrown around so easily these days.

Yeah it makes me angry.

It's so disrespectful to those who actually do get bullied.

She's not persistent, she says what she wants then leaves it.

Khalid brought this all up again

[Lostie!]

She didn't do anything that bad.:laugh:

The overdramatics are strong tonight

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah it makes me angry.

It's so disrespectful to those who actually do get bullied.

She's not persistent, she says what she wants then leaves it.

Khalid brought this all up again

Well I'm someone that has experienced bullying, and I agree with you that Ali is not a bully.

She's a teddy bear in comparison to the bullies that I've experienced.

And obviously some people experience far worse than what I've faced.

[ThomasC]

Yh threw Dean under the bus. I wonder if she’s still worried about her job? After tonight’s episode she should be.

Why should she?

It's an entertainment show.

[Adamw92]

Yeah it makes me angry.

It's so disrespectful to those who actually do get bullied.

She's not persistent, she says what she wants then leaves it.

Khalid brought this all up again

THANK YOU. :clap1:

[ThomasC]

Well I'm someone that has experienced bullying, and I agree with you that Ali is not a bully.

She's a teddy bear in comparison to the bullies that I've experienced.

And obviously some people experience far worse than what I've faced.

Spot on.

[Mystic Mock]

The overdramatics are strong tonight

People need to see Ch4 or Ch5 BB again.

The audience would be in shock at some of the behaviour in those years.:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Vinted booted out as sponsor in favour of British Gas (lighting)?

[Beso]

It was interesting to watch her never leave Deans side when all the decision making was being made, whispering away to him about atmospheres, but as soon as the decisions they made became public she was straight back over beside Lily, whispering away about Dean.

[joeysteele]

Nah, I agree with Mock she does seem to have issues with some men.

Nah though, she's bringing drama.
More of it please for me.

Maybe all that could be wanted to be seen is this fake romance nonsense.
Well.no thanks from me to that.

[GlitterUK]

Ali is vile bully. She is even turning on Dean now, she seems to hate everyone. Hope Dean gets to see her comments on him. She is a man hater and you can even see her sister looked uncomfortable trying to defend her on L&L.

[Glenn.]

Her sister did not look uncomfortable :joker:

And Ali is not a vile bully. She hasn’t bullied anyone.

[ThomasC]

Ali is vile bully. She is even turning on Dean now, she seems to hate everyone. Hope Dean gets to see her comments on him. She is a man hater and you can even see her sister looked uncomfortable trying to defend her on L&L.

How would you explain the men she gets on with in the house though?

Such an absurd thing to come out with.

[ThomasC]

Her sister did not look uncomfortable :joker:

And Ali is not a vile bully. She hasn’t bullied anyone.

Agreed

[joeysteele]

Well I'm someone that has experienced bullying, and I agree with you that Ali is not a bully.

She's a teddy bear in comparison to the bullies that I've experienced.

And obviously some people experience far worse than what I've faced.

Well said Mock.

[GlitterUK]

How would you explain the men she gets on with in the house though?

Such an absurd thing to come out with.

The men she gets on with are the ones she can manipulate and has hold on.

[ThomasC]

The men she gets on with are the ones she can manipulate and has hold on.

Disagree.

[GoldHeart]

Ali is gaslighting Khaled that much I'm surprised she hasn't burst into flames - the Red witch:joker: ... that's her new nickname now,I don't care :smug: .

And she was so flipping disrespectful and rude the way she walked away, when Khaled was trying to calmly talk to her .

she's so passive aggressive. Everything she's doing...if the shoe was on the other foot ,and can you imagine the outrage if Khaled stormed off if she was in mid conversation. She is so condescending.

[BBXX]

Oh dear, it seems people have lost a lot of perspective.

[Vanessa]

Ali is gaslighting Khaled that much I'm surprised she hasn't burst into flames - the Red witch:joker: ... that's her new nickname now,I don't care :smug: .

And she was so flipping disrespectful and rude the way she walked away, when Khaled was trying to calmly talk to her .

she's so passive aggressive. Everything she's doing...if the shoe was on the other foot ,and can you imagine the outrage if Khaled stormed off if she was in mid conversation. She is so condescending.

She's so horrible to him. I think he's just a decent guy. I don't know why she finds that so hard to believe.

[Zizu]

Oh dear, it seems people have lost a lot of perspective.


You would honestly think that some of these people are living in the BB house were tensions are heightened and judgements impaired..


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[ThomasC]

It was interesting to watch her never leave Deans side when all the decision making was being made, whispering away to him about atmospheres, but as soon as the decisions they made became public she was straight back over beside Lily, whispering away about Dean.

Well they were both HOH she could hardly be with a different group

If you're going to take a pop at her at least make it make sense

[Zizu]

Well they were both HOH she could hardly be with a different group

If you're going to take a pop at her at least make it make sense


He’s just relentless with his inane negativity towards Ali .. even to the extent where he makes up fictitious conversations between Ali and her ‘short haired girlfriend ‘ .

Bewildering


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[bots]

I think Ali was great last night

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think Ali was great last night

yes but bots to be fair you are the king of the bad takes on bb

:hehe:

[Beso]

Well they were both HOH she could hardly be with a different group

If you're going to take a pop at her at least make it make sense

I'm not on about the decision making you plum.

[Beso]

He’s just relentless with his inane negativity towards Ali .. even to the extent where he makes up fictitious conversations between Ali and her ‘short haired girlfriend ‘ .

Bewildering


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Plesse link to quote where I make up a conversation.

And you blindly defending her simply because she has adhd shows your shallowness

[Crimson Dynamo]

Plesse link to quote where I make up a conversation.

And you blindly defending her simply because she has adhd shows your shallowness

:nono:

stop making up conversations Beso between ali and her cropped hair latest gf

[thesheriff443]

I think Ali was great last night

Seriously, you think that performance was genuine from her last night

People use tears to gain control because others naturally want to comfort the person crying

I’ve not liked her from day dot
What I’m very happy with is the other forum members that share my view of her
These members have seen nearly all the series and many different housemates over the years
They also have wealth of life experience

[bots]

i'm liking her because the other hm's really don't know how to deal with her. Look at the drama she has caused from very few actual actions. It is masterful

[thesheriff443]

i'm liking her because the other hm's really don't know how to deal with her. Look at the drama she has caused from very few actual actions. It is masterful

It’s not masterful, society has moved in a direction that you can’t actually say what you would of said years ago

In the same way housemates are so guarded in what they say in there these days
The thing is with Ali she knew she fked up in the first rows went full I wanna go home
Kept her down prior to eviction
Didn’t get evicted so she has returned to her old ways thinking it’s making her popular
She will push it to far and she will be gone

[Crimson Dynamo]

I also do not buy the trope she is intelligent

I have seen no evidence. She wears poorly thought out outdated activist apparel, mispronounces words that she uses because she thinks it sounds "clever" . Hangs around with kids making fun of housemates. Iv not heard as decent conversation from her yet?

She also picks battles she thinks she will win but they have just shown her up to be a very unpleasant person

And her sister (last night on L & L) seems to be as poorly informed and unpleasant as she is

:shrug:

[bots]

it's pretty difficult to have an intellectual conversation with that group. When their average intelligence level misspells coffee, you know it's not the time to discuss the theory of relativity

[Niamh.]

I also do not buy the trope she is intelligent

I have seen no evidence. She wears poorly thought out outdated activist apparel, mispronounces words that she uses because she thinks it sounds "clever" . Hangs around with kids making fun of housemates. Iv not heard as decent conversation from her yet?

She also picks battles she thinks she will win but they have just shown her up to be a very unpleasant person

And her sister (last night on L & L) seems to be as poorly informed and unpleasant as she is

:shrug:

I've certainly seen others have far better understanding of other peoples psychology in there, even Marcello oddly enough :laugh:

[Kazanne]

it's pretty difficult to have an intellectual conversation with that group. When their average intelligence level misspells coffee, you know it's not the time to discuss the theory of relativity

And there she is with Lily as her bestie,lol,lol, I don't think she is looking for intellectual conversations ,just ones where she thinks she can manipulate to look good.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I've certainly seen others have far better understanding of other peoples psychology in there, even Marcello oddly enough :laugh:

Marcello is far more emotionally intelligent than Ali is

[GlitterUK]

I think she is more her true self around Lily. I don't think work mode ever turns off but in the glimpses it does it is around Lily from what I have seeen.

[Beso]

I think she is more her true self around Lily. I don't think work mode ever turns off but in the glimpses it does it is around Lily from what I have seeen.

She did a cartwheel with Martha, once.

[Niamh.]

Marcello is far more emotionally intelligent than Ali is

If only he didn't have such a disgusting mouth sometimes when talking to women

[Zizu]

yes but bots to be fair you are the king of the bad takes on bb

:hehe:


The absolute IRONY !!

Pizzed myself laughing


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[Crimson Dynamo]

If only he didn't have such a disgusting mouth sometimes when talking to women

that has calmed down a lot now as he has become less nervous

[Zizu]

She did a cartwheel with Martha, once.


We have been here before
Martha started that conversation.. asking if Ali could do a handstand - they were both bored in the garden area ..

Ali said she couldn’t but then she did a cartwheel instead ..

But go ahead and blame Ali for everything as usual


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[Crimson Dynamo]

She did a cartwheel with Martha, once.

If she ever gets evicted rather than the most likely scenario ie walking

that will be in her "highlights" reel

and a short reel it will be


:joker:

[Beso]

We have been here before
Martha started that conversation.. asking if Ali could do a handstand - they were both bored in the garden area ..

Ali said she couldn’t but then she did a cartwheel instead ..

But go ahead and blame Ali for everything as usual


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Explain what I'm blaming on Ali!

[Maru]

I also do not buy the trope she is intelligent

I have seen no evidence. She wears poorly thought out outdated activist apparel, mispronounces words that she uses because she thinks it sounds "clever" . Hangs around with kids making fun of housemates. Iv not heard as decent conversation from her yet?

She also picks battles she thinks she will win but they have just shown her up to be a very unpleasant person

And her sister (last night on L & L) seems to be as poorly informed and unpleasant as she is

:shrug:

Agree (haven't seen her sister). She thinks intelligence amounts to how many opinions one can fit into a conversation.

[Zizu]

I also do not buy the trope that Ali is intelligent


:shrug:


Quelle surprise


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[Abra]

Last night's episode was rough for her.

The way she tried to act like the save and replace nomination wasn't personal and had nothing to do with her hatred for Khaled was laughable. AND she tried to put all the blame on Dean :laugh:

Posted this in last night's episode thread too but another thought:

It's interesting to me that Ali is branding herself as the one who is "real" and says it how it is, even though she has called several people in the house fake behind their backs without ever going to their face and telling them how she feels. It's a pretty good game plan though because most people in there think she's on their side without knowing they are probably next on her list.

[GlitterUK]

I think her list is getting scrappy, it is now a case of throw anyone under the bus to save her self.

Martha's best bits will be short. Where as Ali's will be jam packed over which bust up to pick over the next.

[Ammi]

I think her list is getting scrappy, it is now a case of throw anyone under the bus to save her self.

Martha's best bits will be short. Where as Ali's will be jam packed over which bust up to pick over the next.

…that’s also quite strange when we think as well because only really a few short days ago, Ali had thoughts of leaving because it wasn’t the experience she had hoped for and she hadn’t wanted to become involved in arguments etc…it’s all quite conflicting atm…

[Abra]

Also I have to say I found it funny that Ali and Dean's plan to pair up the HM's to get Khaled and Marcello nominated totally backfired. She got lucky with the save and replace but I've noticed that she seems to get triggered and annoyed every time she realises that people aren't turning against Khaled how she had hoped. It was the same when he won HoH and she snapped and then again last night when he didn't get nominated.

[FromBB8]

…that’s also quite strange when we think as well because only really a few short days ago, Ali had thoughts of leaving because it wasn’t the experience she had hoped for and she hadn’t wanted to become involved in arguments etc…it’s all quite conflicting atm…

I wonder whether the Khaled experience has led her to be less vocal about her feelings in the house. But surely that makes her as 'fake' as she accuses Khaled of being, considering the likes of Sarah, Rosie and I'm sure there's another, seemingly do not know how she feels about them.

[Ammi]

I wonder whether the Khaled experience has led her to be less vocal about her feelings in the house. But surely that makes her as 'fake' as she accuses Khaled of being, considering the likes of Sarah, Rosie and I'm sure there's another, seemingly do not know how she feels about them.

…that’s interesting with her as well because she did seem to step back a bit and be less vocal as you say…/…quite subdued, even…but then, Khaled was HoH that time so seen as the person with the house control../that person she’d felt least connected with…?….now Ali is the HoH with Dean so she has the control…?..and so it all begins again with arguments…

[GlitterUK]

I think having HOH gives you a bit of room to be a bit sly if that is in your nature. With Khaled it wasn't he did what he thought was fair. Where as Dean and Ali have messed about and even laughed when putting Nathan with Izaaz for example and then tried to work out how they would explain it to everyone sniggering as they went.

As we know it is the rise before the fall.

[Gusto Brunt]

After last night's episode she's gone further down in my estimation.

Just a horrible, vindictive woman.

Nasty, selfish, and a huge trouble maker.

[Maru]

…that’s also quite strange when we think as well because only really a few short days ago, Ali had thoughts of leaving because it wasn’t the experience she had hoped for and she hadn’t wanted to become involved in arguments etc…it’s all quite conflicting atm…

She thrives off conflict too much for me to think she actually wanted to leave because of that.

[Zizu]

She thrives off conflict too much for me to think she actually wanted to leave because of that.


Well she obviously does NOT thrive off conflict but hey carry on with your flawed character assassination


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[Beso]

She is ruined by spite..

So spiteful she couldnt even bring herself to cut kahled some slack after he was first to smash the portraits but left hers intact..

Very nasty and spiteful

[FromBB8]

Well she obviously does NOT thrive off conflict but hey carry on with your flawed character assassination


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Then why does she constantly go out of her way to create it.

Take yesterday's highlights.

"Now can you see how it wasn't easy for me?" or WTTE
If she had replied, "Yeah, that was a horrible thing to go through" they could have just moved on. But by bringing up point scoring she started the slippery slope towards another disagreement which, this time, is growing in size.

[BBXX]

Yes I think Marcello summed it up that Ali thinks negatively of people. I don't think Ali is horrible, I think she's a great HM and I very much want her to win, but I do think her biggest flaw is thinking negatively of people - she often does think the worst of them and it's probably rooted in paranoia. I don't think that makes her a horrible person, but it does mean she clashes, often in cases that were unneeded.

Ironically though, much of the rhetoric around Ali from those who dislike her are doing precisely the same thing as she is about her. She's nowhere near deserving of 95% of the negative labels she's been given.

[vesavius]

Last night's episode was rough for her.

The way she tried to act like the save and replace nomination wasn't personal and had nothing to do with her hatred for Khaled was laughable.

lol, right? More preformative niceness from the 'queen of real'. Everything that she accuses others of so easily.

It was stone cold personal from those two and a targeted assassination.

I hope that the other HMs saw it as clearly as some of us do.

[Ray.]

I hope that the other HMs saw it as clearly as some of us do.

From the sneak previews we've seen thus far, it seems they do. :cheer2:

[Zizu]

lol, right? More preformative niceness from Ali the 'queen of real'.

I hope that the other HMs saw it as clearly as some of us do.


Na we aren’t smokin’ the stuff you seem to be



Some of your thoughts and theories are out there somewhere ..


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[vesavius]

Na we aren’t smokin’ the stuff you seem to be



Some of your thoughts and theories are out there somewhere ..


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Once again, talk about the HMs and stop making personal attacks on forum members. You are constantly baiting for a personal slagging match between us but I don't want to get into it like that.

For the record though, literally everything I have said about Ali is supported by her actions and I was saying it before the anti Ali train started. Calling me names or trying to make out that I am some kind of loon doesn't change that.

[GoldHeart]

Also I have to say I found it funny that Ali and Dean's plan to pair up the HM's to get Khaled and Marcello nominated totally backfired. She got lucky with the save and replace but I've noticed that she seems to get triggered and annoyed every time she realises that people aren't turning against Khaled how she had hoped. It was the same when he won HoH and she snapped and then again last night when he didn't get nominated.

Yeah she was banking on the housemates nominating Khaled & Marcello. She cares more about how it makes her look ...now that both her & Dean picked ' save & replace '. And both Dean & Ali are full of BS , Dean rolling off utter lies about how " well we thought the boys would handle it better" . And Ali making out it's not because she had issues with Khaled & Marcello as she cries crocodile tears .

She's the biggest fake in there ,why didn't she just admit that the reason they picked Marcello & Khaled to face eviction is because both her and Dean find them ' problematic & controversial '. Own the decision and stop playing victim.

And don't turn it into another battle with Khaled to make him look like the bad guy , he was never point scoring and she knows it . She hated the fact Khaled was right about HOH being tough at times...so instead she wanted to take the opportunity to get sympathy.

[Vanessa]

She's this year villain. The new nasty Nick? :laugh:

[Ray.]

She's this year villain. The new nasty Nick? :laugh:

:laugh: She's not nearly as clever :nono:

[Vanessa]

:laugh: She's not nearly as clever :nono:

Trying to subtly influence nominations. She reminds me so much of him.
I hope the housemates don't fall for her bs

[ThomasC]

Yes I think Marcello summed it up that Ali thinks negatively of people. I don't think Ali is horrible, I think she's a great HM and I very much want her to win, but I do think her biggest flaw is thinking negatively of people - she often does think the worst of them and it's probably rooted in paranoia. I don't think that makes her a horrible person, but it does mean she clashes, often in cases that were unneeded.

Ironically though, much of the rhetoric around Ali from those who dislike her are doing precisely the same thing as she is about her. She's nowhere near deserving of 95% of the negative labels she's been given.

Shhhhhhh, you can't pull people up on hypocrisy. We're perfect and they're not lol

[GoldHeart]

She's this year villain. The new nasty Nick? :laugh:

I dunno ,I have a feeling Nick is a nice guy. The few clips I saw of him in ultimate BB he seemed more genuine.

I think he just played a bad game in the first series.

[jem-jem]

Ain't that the truth. She's so blind to her behaviour.

[Vanessa]

The Red Witch. Appropriate name for her. :laugh: