What's the big issue with it anyway?

[Niamh.]

So let's just say Ali is right and Khaled is acting nicer than he is. Why does that make her so angry anyway, what is his evil plan does she think?

[Adamw92]

She is right. He uses every opportunity to come out looking like the good guy, he might not be the absolute devil but it’s not genuine.

[Niamh.]

She is right. He uses every opportunity to come out looking like the good guy, he might not be the absolute devil but it’s not genuine.

Like what though? What do you mean coming out the good guy? I don't actually understand what he's done that he covered up by being a good guy

[DrunkerThanMoses]

It's because ali is just a sad cow who can't accept some people are nice

[Adamw92]

Like what though? What do you mean coming out the good guy? I don't actually understand what he's done that he covered up by being a good guy

One example being how he pretended that he defended Izaaz with the police task during the shopping task last week when he literally sat back and said nothing against it. He didn’t wanna look bad in that situation so he just pretended that he was such a good friend.

[Benjamin]

So let's just say Ali is right and Khaled is acting nicer than he is. Why does that make her so angry anyway, what is his evil plan does she think?

It’s the same reason she hates Sarah and BP too.

[Benjamin]

She is right. He uses every opportunity to come out looking like the good guy, he might not be the absolute devil but it’s not genuine.

Even that was true, why does she need to be so hateful about it?

[Maru]

So let's just say Ali is right and Khaled is acting nicer than he is. Why does that make her so angry anyway, what is his evil plan does she think?

I think it too directly challenges her role in the house as the group's in-house therapist. If other people respond too positively to Khaled and he becomes a person people feel they can depend on, it may make her gameplan too obvious.

Same with Marcello. He's been quite conciliatory and considerate of other people in there when some were having a difficult time themselves. The only person he hasn't taken to was her, but then I think after seeing how she's been treating Khaled the way she has, I don't blame him for taking a different route and keeping his distance...

[Swan]

Some real deep seeded hatred for the only male Muslim in the house, who just tries to be "the good guy". Lily with her toddler act is fine, but Khalid just being a pretty normal well mannered guy is the crime of the century? K then.

[FromBB8]

One example being how he pretended that he defended Izaaz with the police task during the shopping task last week when he literally sat back and said nothing against it. He didn’t wanna look bad in that situation so he just pretended that he was such a good friend.

He did raise having a third person on the task but the others convinced him otherwise. He then took the brunt on the radio show and said he was happy with the decision if not the process.

I actually think his and Izaaz's relationship started to break down after he was made Head of House, and tension with Ali started to rear it's head. The police task just exacerbated that.

[FromBB8]

I think it too directly challenges her role in the house as the group's in-house therapist. If other people respond too positively to Khaled and he becomes a person people feel they can depend on, it may make her gameplan too obvious.

Same with Marcello. He's been quite conciliatory and considerate of other people in there when some were having a difficult time themselves. The only person he hasn't taken to was her, but then I think after seeing how she's been treating Khaled the way she has, I don't blame him for taking a different route and keeping his distance...

On the live feed - heaven help anything positive makes the highlights show except when it relates to Lily's 'journey' or the romance - both Daze and Sarah have commented how Khaled went/goes out of his way to comfort them/raise their spirits when they have been upset.

[ThomasC]

I think they had built bridges then he brings it up not long after it happens after telling people he will discuss it with her tomorrow.

I don't think she's angry, she comes across calm
She says her points.

[Adamw92]

Even that was true, why does she need to be so hateful about it?

Because it must be really stressful living with someone who is constantly plastering on this false nice guy facade. It would be exhausting to live with.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Our therapist is delulu and needs to work on unresolved trauma

[Vanessa]

He's just a nice guy. Foreign concept to her.

[bots]

Ali is vulnerable and he keeps cornering her in front of a camera, he knows exactly what he is doing

[Benjamin]

Because it must be really stressful living with someone who is constantly plastering on this false nice guy facade. It would be exhausting to live with.

Same can be said for Lily’s screaming (which she has no issue with) or her own OTT reactions.

[Adamw92]

Same can be said for Lily’s screaming (which she has no issue with) or her own OTT reactions.

I agree. I’m not claiming she’s right to not be annoyed about that though.

[Benjamin]

I agree. I’m not claiming she’s right to not be annoyed about that though.

Like I totally get her issue with Marcello (he can be crass), but I don’t get why she’s so fixated on Khaled, Sarah and BP. Sarah and BP haven’t come for her at all. She just strikes me as the type of person who needs to hate people, and be vocal about it.

[rusticgal]

So let's just say Ali is right and Khaled is acting nicer than he is. Why does that make her so angry anyway, what is his evil plan does she think?


I cannot see anything that he has done wrong….probably just being a nice person grates on the biggest bitch in the house.

[Niamh.]

Ali is vulnerable and he keeps cornering her in front of a camera, he knows exactly what he is doingThe whole house is full of cameras

[Adamw92]

Like I totally get her issue with Marcello (he can be crass), but I don’t get why she’s so fixated on Khaled, Sarah and BP. Sarah and BP haven’t come for her at all. She just strikes me as the type of person who needs to hate people, and be vocal about it.

We don’t see everything so we’ll never know for sure. I don’t know what her issue is with Sarah or BP but I can see where her issue with Khaled comes from in terms of the fakeness. I know you don’t agree but that’s fine.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think they had built bridges then he brings it up not long after it happens after telling people he will discuss it with her tomorrow.

I don't think she's angry, she comes across calm
She says her points.

She has threatened to leave and tonight burst into tears again

No one else acts like that

She is raging and she has issues

[Benjamin]

We don’t see everything so we’ll never know for sure. I don’t know what her issue is with Sarah or BP but I can see where her issue with Khaled comes from in terms of the fakeness. I know you don’t agree but that’s fine.

Yeah, but she’s always so vocal about it. It’s like she needs others to know she hates certain people. If she hadn’t have come for Khaled last week he’d probably not be too bothered by her.

[GlitterUK]

She has man issues.

[GoldGlitter]

Because it must be really stressful living with someone who is constantly plastering on this false nice guy facade. It would be exhausting to live with.

Agreed. Look at what he said about Lily in his first nomination. He's proven he's not a nice guy. Dean said himself he's seen it with his own eyes.

[ThomasC]

She has threatened to leave and tonight burst into tears again

No one else acts like that

She is raging and she has issues

Has she? Do you have a clip?

She comes across calm and articulate most of the time imo.

I don't want to judge as it must be a pressure cooker in there

I do feel like she has got a lot of grief and Dean hasn't

[Benjamin]

She has man issues.

Nah, that I will say isn’t true. Again, she also has issues with Sarah and BP.

[Scarlett.]

Her gaslighting behaviour is very worrisome considering she's a psychologist

[Adamw92]

Agreed. Look at what he said about Lily in his first nomination. He's proven he's not a nice guy. Dean said himself he's seen it with his own eyes.

Exactly but according to people on here, multiple people seeing the same thing is clearly just their imagination even though they live with the guy 24/7.

[Benjamin]

Has she? Do you have a clip?

She comes across calm and articulate most of the time imo.


Articulate very much so, but not sure what your definition of calm is. :laugh:

[ThomasC]

She has threatened to leave and tonight burst into tears again

No one else acts like that

She is raging and she has issues

Who does she 'hate'?

I don't think she hates anyone, she just doesn't get on with Khaled and found Marcello remarks vulgar.

Who else does she have a big issue with?

[ThomasC]

Articulate very much so, but not sure what your definition of calm is. :laugh:

Able to put her point across and leave it.

Khaled has carried things on.

She's not swearing, kicking the walls, shouting

[Benjamin]

Able to put her point across and leave it.

Khaled has carried things on.

She's not swearing, kicking the walls, shouting

But she starts it half the time (when she’s not being calm) :laugh:

[ThomasC]

But she starts it half the time (when she’s not being calm) :laugh:

Well our definitions of calm are different

Some people perceive standing up for yourself, disliking someone or having a different opinion as not being calm

[Niamh.]

But she starts it half the time (when she’s not being calm) [emoji23]And her "leaving it" half the time means having her say and then walking off without letting the other person have theirs

[Adamw92]

But she starts it half the time (when she’s not being calm) :laugh:

She didn’t start it this time though. He said he would leave her for the night but still went at her knowing he’d get a reaction and come off looking like the poor innocent sweet victim because he’s fake as hell and needs to be seen as the sweet guy who does nothing wrong. If he was genuinely looking for what he claims he was looking for out of that conversation he would have left it until the morning like he claimed he would.

[Mystic Mock]

So let's just say Ali is right and Khaled is acting nicer than he is. Why does that make her so angry anyway, what is his evil plan does she think?

Well if she's right it is incredibly phony isn't it?

One of my big issues with the entertainment industry these days is people being fake "nice" and trying to be "positive" about everyone and everything.

So I can personally understand where Ali's coming from if she feels that way about Khaled.

It's the issues with the other guys in the house that I'm more curious about with Ali.

[Benjamin]

She didn’t start it this time though. He said he would leave her for the night but still went at her knowing he’d get a reaction and come off looking like the poor innocent sweet victim because he’s fake as hell and needs to be seen as the sweet guy who does nothing wrong. If he was genuinely looking for what he claims he was looking for out of that conversation he would have left it until the morning like he claimed he would.

I didn’t say she started it this time. :tongue:

[Adamw92]

I didn’t say she started it this time. :tongue:

So you admit he started it then? :tongue: :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Nah, that I will say isn’t true. Again, she also has issues with Sarah and BP.

But tbf at different points of the Show she has expressed/or had issues with Khaled, Ryan, Nathan, Marcello, and even blamed Dean for last night's fallout.:laugh:

I like Ali (against my better judgement tbh) because if I were in the house she would piss me off with her obvious issues with men.

[Garfie]

Ali is vulnerable and he keeps cornering her in front of a camera, he knows exactly what he is doing

It seems unfair when she accuses him of doing this, as the whole house is covered in cameras. Wherever he chooses to discuss an issue with her, there will be a camera nearby. It’s the BB house, when all is said and done!

[Garfie]

And her "leaving it" half the time means having her say and then walking off without letting the other person have theirs

There is truth in what you say here.

[GoldHeart]

She has man issues.

She has issues full stop ,next destination is padded cell.

But she's really snaky & calculating with it. Even accusing Khaled of performing for the cameras...when she's the one very aware of the cameras ,and what the outside world ie her job will think of her :whistle::crazy: .

[Garfie]

She didn’t start it this time though. He said he would leave her for the night but still went at her knowing he’d get a reaction and come off looking like the poor innocent sweet victim because he’s fake as hell and needs to be seen as the sweet guy who does nothing wrong. If he was genuinely looking for what he claims he was looking for out of that conversation he would have left it until the morning like he claimed he would.

There is a certain irony in the fact that Khaled is criticised for raising the issue when he did, yet Ali felt it was acceptable to attack him seconds after he had been in the same difficult position as her last week. It was a fair point to raise, in my opinion, and he did so much more respectfully than she did.

[GlitterUK]

Her sister commented all the stuff with Khaled stems from that first bust up between Hanah and Khaled, yet Hanah and Khaled are good mates now and Hanah has forgiven and forgotten so surely if Hanah can, why can't Ali.

[FromBB8]

She didn’t start it this time though. He said he would leave her for the night but still went at her knowing he’d get a reaction and come off looking like the poor innocent sweet victim because he’s fake as hell and needs to be seen as the sweet guy who does nothing wrong. If he was genuinely looking for what he claims he was looking for out of that conversation he would have left it until the morning like he claimed he would.

I think they were both wrong there - Khaled could have said, "I know how tough that was" rather than the question, and Ali could have responded, "Yes, it was horrible, don't want to go through it again" rather than immediately going into attack mode over point scoring. Do I think Khaled was deliberately trying to rile her up? I personally don't. But I do wonder if he would have approached it differently had he not had that conversation with Marcello beforehand, who was annoyed.

[GoldHeart]

There is a certain irony in the fact that Khaled is criticised for raising the issue when he did, yet Ali felt it was acceptable to attack him seconds after he had been in the same difficult position as her last week. It was a fair point to raise, in my opinion, and he did so much more respectfully than she did.

And she twisted the truth and lied and made it sound like Khaled Went " ha ha " to her ... like he was enjoying her being in that position, she always paints the other person as the villain and plays the victim.

She's devious & spiteful,and it's ashame she isn't up for eviction :fist: .

[Mystic Mock]

And she twisted the truth and lied and made it sound like Khaled Went " ha ha " to her ... like he was enjoying her being in that position, she always paints the other person as the villain and plays the victim.

She's devious & spiteful,and it's ashame she isn't up for eviction :fist: .

Tbh, Khaled (to me anyway) did come across a bit smug in their chat with each other.

I honestly don't think that Ali was necessarily wrong on that.

[Redway]

Tbh, Khaled (to me anyway) did come across a bit smug in their chat with each other.

I honestly don't think that Ali was necessarily wrong on that.

Don’t you think her reaction was just a little bit over-the-top?

[Mystic Mock]

Don’t you think her reaction was just a little bit over-the-top?

It was, because Khaled's flaws imo doesn't make him the evil monstrosity that Ali's conjuring up in her head.

But I don't also think that Ali is as crazy as some people are in the public believe her to be when it comes to Khaled, because I do believe that he exaggerates his niceness, and I do think that he has one of the bigger egos in the house, that he tries to conceal.

I ultimately do believe Khaled to be a decent guy, but just not the saint that he wants everyone to see him as, which I think is twigging with Ali who already has a bias against men anyway.

[Ammi]

She has man issues.

…Ali hasn’t connected with all of the female housemates either and she gets along with some of the guys so I can’t see that being true, tbh…there is/has been lots to discuss with her in terms of behaviour we’ve seen…(…obviously that’s edited and highlighted which has to be considered as well…)…but I can’t see ‘man hater’…

…sadly, unfair get ‘slapped on’ to people and then a bandwagon can run with them regardless of whether there is truth or not…

[ThomasC]

Her gaslighting behaviour is very worrisome considering she's a psychologist

This really annoys me.

If people didn't know her job would they be saying the same thing.

There's one thing going into the BB house and another slating her occupation and using it as a weapon against her.

I have seen people question her ability to do her job..... How people can't differentiate between a social experiment and the ability to do her job is bewildering

[Zizu]

This really annoys me.

If people didn't know her job would they be saying the same thing.

There's one thing going into the BB house and another slating her occupation and using it as a weapon against her.

I have seen people question her ability to do her job..... How people can't differentiate between a social experiment and the ability to do her job is bewildering


So much about the way people in here see Ali is bewildering .. just a reflection of our damaged , ignorant and intolerant society sadly


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[ThomasC]

And her "leaving it" half the time means having her say and then walking off without letting the other person have theirs

I think she just gets to the point.often it's a dragged out heated debate.

I think with Khaled he wants to make an amends, but she's not bothered with that. Like she said we don't like each other it's fine, leave it at that.

[FromBB8]

It was, because Khaled's flaws imo doesn't make him the evil monstrosity that Ali's conjuring up in her head.

But I don't also think that Ali is as crazy as some people are in the public believe her to be when it comes to Khaled, because I do believe that he exaggerates his niceness, and I do think that he has one of the bigger egos in the house, that he tries to conceal.

I ultimately do believe Khaled to be a decent guy, but just not the saint that he wants everyone to see him as, which I think is twigging with Ali who already has a bias against men anyway.

There was an interesting conversation between Khalid and I think it was Emma on live feed which I wish they'd aired on the highlights, as it may have given context on his behaviour in the house - at least it helped me.

Khaled was explaining that, when he was younger, he had trouble handling his emotions - he'd react first and think later to every situation. He said he worked on himself, hence the boxing and working out, to try and be measured, and not get overly emotional about anything for that reason.

I think that might be why Ali has an issue. He's not being fake in the sense that who we're seeing is who he has worked on to be, but perhaps she is sensing the "react first" part of his nature but, because they've never sat down and had that discussion, she can't place it. So instead she believes he's playing up to the cameras.

That might be why Khaled said to Ali he feels she can't read him, and believes that's why he bothers her to such an extent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

maybe Khaled stirs feelings in Ali that she has repressed when she went full Lesbian?

just a thought....

[*mazedsalv**]

If Ali was a man and acted the way she did last night, she would be hated by the very people who are so called supporting her to the death.

Khaled has the patience of a saint. 99.9% of people wouldn't have been as calm as he was.

If i had someone like Ali work in the same place with me, i would steer clear from her, because just the very presence of me would set her off.

Someone on X said it all,

"Ali, could you please pass the salt?"

"OK, listen, i know what you are trying to do, you are trying to vilify me in a way in front of the cameras which will be detrimental to my job. I am done with this conversation".

[Garfie]

If Ali was a man and acted the way she did last night, she would be hated by the very people who are so called supporting her to the death.

Khaled has the patience of a saint. 99.9% of people wouldn't have been as calm as he was.

If i had someone like Ali work in the same place with me, i would steer clear from her, because just the very presence of me would set her off.

Someone on X said it all,

"Ali, could you please pass the salt?"

"OK, listen, i know what you are trying to do, you are trying to vilify me in a way in front of the cameras which will be detrimental to my job. I am done with this conversation".

I must admit that another hypocrisy that tends to emerge in Ali, is the accusation that Khaled is trying to vilify her on camera. I do find this somewhat frustrating in her because she has very publicly, in front of large groups of housemates as well as the cameras, levelled very harsh judgements at him.

She has accused him of being false and fake, with all that implies regarding dishonesty and deceit, and she has suggested he showed no sensitivity or consideration for Martha, when he clearly explained the process he went through to arrive at his decision in the fairest way possible.

Ironically, it is often Ali who is vilifying Khaled, but she seems unable to recognise that. I do have an understanding of why Ali behaves as she does, and I have sympathy for that, but I think that on looking back, she herself, will see that this is something she needs to address and moderate in her interactions with others.

The accusation or suggestion of vilification has been used each time another housemate has tried to discuss or resolve an issue with Ali - this serves only to silence them, so ensures that problems can never be solved and that resentment remain on both sides. It is a shame that she seems unable to be more open-minded in these situations, or that someone she trusts in there is not willing to discuss this with her in a kind and thoughtful way,

[Mystic Mock]

There was an interesting conversation between Khalid and I think it was Emma on live feed which I wish they'd aired on the highlights, as it may have given context on his behaviour in the house - at least it helped me.

Khaled was explaining that, when he was younger, he had trouble handling his emotions - he'd react first and think later to every situation. He said he worked on himself, hence the boxing and working out, to try and be measured, and not get overly emotional about anything for that reason.

I think that might be why Ali has an issue. He's not being fake in the sense that who we're seeing is who he has worked on to be, but perhaps she is sensing the "react first" part of his nature but, because they've never sat down and had that discussion, she can't place it. So instead she believes he's playing up to the cameras.

That might be why Khaled said to Ali he feels she can't read him, and believes that's why he bothers her to such an extent.

That's fair.

I didn't know that about Khaled tbf.

[ThomasC]

If Ali was a man and acted the way she did last night, she would be hated by the very people who are so called supporting her to the death.

Khaled has the patience of a saint. 99.9% of people wouldn't have been as calm as he was.

If i had someone like Ali work in the same place with me, i would steer clear from her, because just the very presence of me would set her off.

Someone on X said it all,

"Ali, could you please pass the salt?"

"OK, listen, i know what you are trying to do, you are trying to vilify me in a way in front of the cameras which will be detrimental to my job. I am done with this conversation".

But it's hard to make the comparison of what she would be like out the house as the environment is completely different.

People seem unable to differentiate

[GlitterUK]

I think Ali will apologise once she is out to Khaled at the very least. I hope she sorts it with him in there but I think Khaled is doomed whatever he does now in her eyes. Khaled seems a very forgiving person and the way he has handled himself is amazing.

[Swan]

If Ali was a man and acted the way she did last night, she would be hated by the very people who are so called supporting her to the death.

Khaled has the patience of a saint. 99.9% of people wouldn't have been as calm as he was.

If i had someone like Ali work in the same place with me, i would steer clear from her, because just the very presence of me would set her off.

Someone on X said it all,

"Ali, could you please pass the salt?"

"OK, listen, i know what you are trying to do, you are trying to vilify me in a way in front of the cameras which will be detrimental to my job. I am done with this conversation".

Yeah this is absolutely spot on. She has real deep seeded hate for Khalid and you really have to question yourself why?

Like when Ali and Dean had a decision to make regarding the save and replace. Khalid wasn't even angry, he was calm and said to her when they were alone, in a nice way i might add - "it's hard isn't it" (as he had the same decision to make the week previous) and she flew off the handle at him, making HERSELF the victim yet again. He was was merely pointing out what a difficult process it all is, and that as she'd been through it now she would be able to empathise with him. But nah, Ali saw it as an opportunity to have yet another pop at the guy.

People wont have this i know, but imagine if Ryan had taken this instant dislike to Khalid early on for no apparent reason. If Ryan was displaying this irrational hatred of Khalid? Well, some of the same people supporting Ali now would be absolutely accusing Ryan of Islamphobia. It's like because Ali is and gay and supports trans rights (she knew what she was doing by wearing that t-shirt) she couldn't possibly be against Khalid because he's a practising Muslim and man of colour.

In any case, Ali was lapping up the sympathy yesterday, all this is playing right into her game plan. And it's working. In her head though, she's loving this outcome. Im genuinely surprised so many are falling for it.

[FromBB8]

I think Ali will apologise once she is out to Khaled at the very least. I hope she sorts it with him in there but I think Khaled is doomed whatever he does now in her eyes. Khaled seems a very forgiving person and the way he has handled himself is amazing.

Last night's show was the first time we saw a sign of him reaching breaking point. Unfortunately, I feel that will come back to bite him.

[rusticgal]

Ali has aligned herself with the weakest people in there...the ones she knows she can control and manipulate.
She sounds like she knows what she is talking about but she completely contradicts her own behaviour most of the time. She has told a few of them that Dean was the instigator of those decisions but left her to take the flak...then Dean comes over and asks her if she is ok and she doesn't say a word to him about it. She knows she has Dean where she wants him atm (he is weak, all mouth and no trousers)...unyet she has pretty much slagged him off behind his back...and she calls Khalid FAKE.

[Niamh.]

Ali has aligned herself with the weakest people in there...the ones she knows she can control and manipulate.
She sounds like she knows what she is talking about but she completely contradicts her own behaviour most of the time. She has told a few of them that Dean was the instigator of those decisions but left her to take the flak...then Dean comes over and asks her if she is ok and she doesn't say a word to him about it. She knows she has Dean where she wants him atm (he is weak, all mouth and no trousers)...unyet she has pretty much slagged him off behind his back...and she calls Khalid FAKE.

Exactly. That was more fake than anything Khaled has ever done

[rusticgal]

Yeah this is absolutely spot on. She has real deep seeded hate for Khalid and you really have to question yourself why?

Like when Ali and Dean had a decision to make regarding the save and replace. Khalid wasn't even angry, he was calm and said to her when they were alone, in a nice way i might add - "it's hard isn't it" (as he had the same decision to make the week previous) and she flew off the handle at him, making HERSELF the victim yet again. He was was merely pointing out what a difficult process it all is, and that as she'd been through it now she would be able to empathise with him. But nah, Ali saw it as an opportunity to have yet another pop at the guy.

People wont have this i know, but imagine if Ryan had taken this instant dislike to Khalid early on for no apparent reason. If Ryan was displaying this irrational hatred of Khalid? Well, some of the same people supporting Ali now would be absolutely accusing Ryan of Islamphobia. It's like because Ali is and gay and supports trans rights (she knew what she was doing by wearing that t-shirt) she couldn't possibly be against Khalid because he's a practising Muslim and man of colour.

In any case, Ali was lapping up the sympathy yesterday, all this is playing right into her game plan. And it's working. In her head though, she's loving this outcome. Im genuinely surprised so many are falling for it.


Good post...I hope Khalid doesn't make any more attempts to make amends because she will just turn on him again...he should let it it go now. .

[Beso]

She hates Khaled cause he is a Muslim man, and she doesn't trust muslim men around women..hence the need to check up on hanah.

[GoldHeart]

Yeah this is absolutely spot on. She has real deep seeded hate for Khalid and you really have to question yourself why?

Like when Ali and Dean had a decision to make regarding the save and replace. Khalid wasn't even angry, he was calm and said to her when they were alone, in a nice way i might add - "it's hard isn't it" (as he had the same decision to make the week previous) and she flew off the handle at him, making HERSELF the victim yet again. He was was merely pointing out what a difficult process it all is, and that as she'd been through it now she would be able to empathise with him. But nah, Ali saw it as an opportunity to have yet another pop at the guy.

People wont have this i know, but imagine if Ryan had taken this instant dislike to Khalid early on for no apparent reason. If Ryan was displaying this irrational hatred of Khalid? Well, some of the same people supporting Ali now would be absolutely accusing Ryan of Islamphobia. It's like because Ali is and gay and supports trans rights (she knew what she was doing by wearing that t-shirt) she couldn't possibly be against Khalid because he's a practising Muslim and man of colour.

In any case, Ali was lapping up the sympathy yesterday, all this is playing right into her game plan. And it's working. In her head though, she's loving this outcome. Im genuinely surprised so many are falling for it.

Outside the house , especially on L& L a few audience members seem to be finally seeing what a bitch Ali is . It got tiresome how L& L kept acting as if the sun shined out her backside. That Harriet guest ( no idea who she is) , is always defending Ali as she clearly has a bias.. :bored: .

I agree about parts of what you're saying re: if this was Ryan against Khaled,we all know how quickly things would go down a certain ugly narrative to paint Ryan as the villain.

Hanah rightly pointed out that Ali is getting sympathy,whereas Khaled was left to hang out and dry basically, more people in the house are pandering to Ali's feelings , whereas Khaled was pushed aside,whilst whispers of him being " fake " was said behind his back.

Ali is a very cold cruel game player, and she definitely is capitalising on the whole ' Red witch drama' now, she can't let it drop . She probably thinks she'll get her own feminist podcast titled ' Red witch hour ' or something, if she was chocolate she would eat herself... she's that self absorbed.