The USA Presidential election 2024 - Tuesday 5th November

[MTVN]

Warm words flooding in for President Trump from Macron, Zelensky and others

Chop chop Starmer

Ah good

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[Mystic Mock]

My heart goes out to all the Americans who aren’t straight white men.

Truly horrific.

Tbf, the Democrats are to blame for not appealing to straight white men.

They're half of the country's population, and the Democrats didn't come up with one policy to pull any of them over to their side.

[arista]

Ah good

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Yes before he got to the total.


Harris will not speak to the press?

[Mystic Mock]

She's too female and too melinated for American voters.

I hate identity politics and even I think that's what it was :joker:

The former definitely played it's part, Americans just aren't ready to accept a female President.

[MTVN]

Tbf, the Democrats are to blame for not appealing to straight white men.

They're half of the country's population, and the Democrats didn't come up with one policy to pull any of them over to their side.

It's not just white male voters either. Trumps support surged massively amongst black and hispanic voters too. There was a 33 point swing towards Trump amongst hispanic males

[arista]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1854034776815972649

[Mystic Mock]

It's not just white male voters either. Trumps support surged massively amongst black and hispanic voters too. There was a 33 point swing towards Trump amongst hispanic males

You're right tbf.

Democrats and their vote base need to get men on their side again, not insulting them or belittling them, as that's the kind of behaviour that will keep seeing the Democrats struggling to win elections for the foreseeable future.

And I am someone that is not a Republican supporter at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The markets are loving this news

[joeysteele]

Ugh.
What a depressing start to the day.

The only good thing is that in three and a half years the next presidential election process will be in full swing and thankfully this man cannot be a candidate ever again for the Presidency.

I do have to concede that he is an individual who it's hard to work out what he may do.
Which he can be positive or negative on, so a slim hope may be that he seeks to be far better this time

[Ninastar]

Kamala was not a good candidate. She was incoherent in interviews and didn't have a compelling vision. If you weren't very happy with how the last four years had gone she offered absolutely nothing to make you think she could improve things. Instead she tried to hide from the spotlight as much as possible and rely on celebrity endorsements to win the race for her.

And the biggest problem is that no one voted for her as their candidate. Even a lot of Democrats would think it a bit distasteful the way it was handled, first with everyone insisting Biden was fine to stand and then forcing him out at the last minute by which time it was too late to have a proper primary

I know she was picked as VP, but honestly the dems should have been able to vote who they wanted to take over as president

They let Biden get too fragile and I think that’s where they ended up shooting themselves in the foot

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbnFYURWsAAl3xE?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ninastar]

Genuinely did not think this would happen. Hopefully no more world wars come of this result. It’s scary times for sure

[Oliver_W]

and now Trump will stay president until 2040 or something

:yuk:


pretty 100% sure Trump will do a Putin and make sure there won't be anymore elections to stay in power

Sooo many people are going to be disappointed when basically nothing changes and the world ticks on as usual.

[arista]

Genuinely did not think this would happen. Hopefully no more world wars come of this result. It’s scary times for sure

Not your Fault

All the Media said Harris would win.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbnIZjTXIAAg9Vc?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbsHNgoaQAArcMk?format=jpg&name=small


meanwhile....

on X today

David Lammy
@DavidLammy

Congratulations to RealDonaldTrump on your victory.

The UK has no greater friend than the US, with the special relationship being cherished on both sides of the Atlantic for more than 80 years.

:joker:

We look forward to working with you and
@JDVance
in the years ahead.

[joeysteele]

I think I actually dislike his running mate Vance as much as I do Trump.
He comes across really slimey.

[Vanessa]

Im so happy. Great result. I'm sure the time will come for a female president. But not yet.

[Nicky91]

Sooo many people are going to be disappointed when basically nothing changes and the world ticks on as usual.

i hope there will be a couple of changes though

a more stable middle east (for that to happen 1) Israel also needs sanctions for unnecessary bloodshed 2) Palestine need to get rid of Hamas and need to trust USA that they will prevent Israel from continuing with the massacres)

Putin's Russia withdrawing out of Ukraine (a special trade deal between USA and Russia might help talk sanity in Putin, with some rules here and there)

stable relations between the two Korea's (The Donald was very close in his 1st term so who knows if he might be fully successful this time around)

[bots]

Sooo many people are going to be disappointed when basically nothing changes and the world ticks on as usual.

that isn't true this time round. Trump has been very clear on what he intends to do and it certainly isn't business as usual

[joeysteele]

I hope he's MADE to act with more responsibility and decency.
However I won't hold my breath.

I guess one claim to fame he has, is he can beat women but not men.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They tried to jail him

They tried to kill him

The whole of the MSM were against him

But with God on his side and the great American people he won

[arista]

I hope he's MADE to act with more responsibility and decency.
However I won't hold my breath.

I guess one claim to fame he has, is he can beat women but not men.


He is Deal Maker,
a Businessman


That's why America Voted him back in

[James]

The result is part of the same pattern seen across the world: governments being voted out as countries deal with the after effects of the pandemic... inflation etc.

[MTVN]

The result is part of the same pattern seen across the world: governments being voted out as countries deal with the after effects of the pandemic... inflation etc.

Yeah essentially incumbent governments are being voted out everywhere. The US isn't as unique as either it thinks or the rest of the world seems to think. Seeing everyone in the UK and Europe raging about how Americans voted is mental imo, they're just normal people facing and responding to very similar challenges as everywhere else in the West

[Niamh.]

The result is part of the same pattern seen across the world: governments being voted out as countries deal with the after effects of the pandemic... inflation etc.

Yeah essentially incumbent governments are being voted out everywhere. The US isn't as unique as either it thinks or the rest of the world seems to think. Seeing everyone in the UK and Europe raging about how Americans voted is mental imo, they're just normal people facing and responding to very similar challenges as everywhere else in the West

I agree, I think there's lots of "protest" type voting going on all over in western countries.

[arista]

The result is part of the same pattern seen across the world: governments being voted out as countries deal with the after effects of the pandemic... inflation etc.


Yes Everything going up in Price.

Harris did not do Policy - Pathetic Coward
not even speaking to the press

[bots]

At the end of the day, it's democracy in action. Not every result goes the way people think/want it to. It's certainly going to be different. I disagree about the main driver being the pandemic. This result is much deeper rooted and relates to voters dissatisfaction going back well over a decade. The pandemic didn't help the dems, but this is about rebelling against an environment of acceptance and tolerance that does not reflect the views of 50% of the population

[Crimson Dynamo]

and all these popstsars who endorsed Harris too

:sad:

[Niamh.]

At the end of the day, it's democracy in action. Not every result goes the way people think/want it to. It's certainly going to be different. I disagree about the main driver being the pandemic. This result is much deeper rooted and relates to voters dissatisfaction going back well over a decade. The pandemic didn't help the dems, but this is about rebelling against an environment of acceptance and tolerance that does not reflect the views of 50% of the population

Yeah, the pandemic and all the rules that came with it certainly heightened those feeling amongst people though imo

[bots]

Yeah, the pandemic and all the rules that came with it certainly heightened those feeling amongst people though imo

i would actually go further because Trump found new voters above what people thought was his natural ceiling, and I think that is because his opponent was a black woman tied to the progressive left of the dems which became a focal point for trump voters to further rebel against

[The Slim Reaper]

After 50 years of neoliberal destruction of living standards by the right, in cahoots with the smug centrists that parrot their policies but without the frothing fervour, people have had enough.

Trump ran to the left of the democratic candidate on issues like war. Refusal to separate herself from Biden, despite the fact he had to drop out because he'd reached insane levels of unpopularity, was the stupidest move of all time.

They gave people nothing to vote for, except arrogance.

The exact same thing is coming here. We have 2 parties in agreement that nothing should ever be better for everyday people, which has only ever paved the way for extremism. I've warned about this on here for years.

[The Slim Reaper]

i would actually go further because Trump found new voters above what people thought was his natural ceiling, and I think that is because his opponent was a black woman tied to the progressive left of the dems which became a focal point for trump voters to further rebel against

She is not part of the progressive left. If she'd offered some left wing policies, she would have had a better chance.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The woke lefties are losing it on X

and the fact they are doing it on X is hilarious


:joker:

[bots]

i reckon prince harry will be heading back to the uk soon

[Livia]

i reckon prince harry will be heading back to the uk soon

No! Isn't it bad enough we're likely to get James Cordon back?

[Liam-]

Yeah, perhaps telling people that you wouldn’t really do anything differently than what’s currently happening, while every poll suggests the country isn’t happy with what’s happening, wasn’t really the brightest idea

[arista]

i reckon prince harry will be heading back to the uk soon

Maybe the Democrats
will protect him?

[bots]

Yeah, perhaps telling people that you wouldn’t really do anything differently than what’s currently happening, while every poll suggests the country isn’t happy with what’s happening, wasn’t really the brightest idea

i actually liked Harris, she was thrown into the race without a chance to properly define herself. She should have thrown Biden under the bus. Her message of turning the page while supporting the Biden agenda just didn't seem believable to voters

Ultimately, Biden should never have run for a second term, that would have allowed proper primaries to take place where candidates earned the right to stand for president

[Liam-]

i actually liked Harris, she was thrown into the race without a chance to properly define herself. She should have thrown Biden under the bus. Her message of turning the page while supporting the Biden agenda just didn't seem believable to voters

Ultimately, Biden should never have run for a second term, that would have allowed proper primaries to take place where candidates earned the right to stand for president

Oh yeah she was by far the superior candidate, easily one of the most qualified candidates for a long time, I think she would have made an amazing president, but yeah looking at it now, I think any candidate would have beaten her, it’s just a massive shame it had to be that neanderthal, but they’re gonna deserve everything they get now though

[Crimson Dynamo]

i reckon prince harry will be heading back to the uk soon

D:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Harris was a bomb scare

[Ninastar]

Yeah, perhaps telling people that you wouldn’t really do anything differently than what’s currently happening, while every poll suggests the country isn’t happy with what’s happening, wasn’t really the brightest idea

Agreed. This was probably her biggest downfall. It’s a shame really

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump slashed the Democrat lead among 18-29 years from about 24 points to around 13 points (exit poll).

Gen Z males are abandoning the woke dems and voting Trump!

[Glenn.]

Congratulations to your sexual offender winning! Must be so proud!

Make sure you hug all the women in your lives a little tighter today.

[Glenn.]

You’d think being a rapist would be enough for people to not support you but obviously not.

[Vanessa]

So many sour grapes, I'm loving it :joker:

[MTVN]

Very poor that Kamala is still silent. Surely her supporters deserved a few words of thanks last night and surely the country deserves a concession from her this morning now that the result has been clear for hours

[Glenn.]

It’s sour grapes to not be happy that a rapist is president!

I have women in my life that I cherish and the thought of them being raped and the rapist being worshipped makes me sick. As should it be for everyone

[Nicky91]

Trump slashed the Democrat lead among 18-29 years from about 24 points to around 13 points (exit poll).

Gen Z males are abandoning the woke dems and voting Trump!

well no surprise this whole outcome when the dems select a candidate with 0% Charisma

and they were kinda trying too hard either to appeal to the younger voters with the help by the popstars to tell their fans to vote for Kamala


the dems really should've let the people choose their candidate honestly

[BBXX]

So many sour grapes, I'm loving it :joker:

You sound nice. People are worried for other people's rights and lives. Let people be worried without gloating.

[bots]

Very poor that Kamala is still silent. Surely her supporters deserved a few words of thanks last night and surely the country deserves a concession from her this morning now that the result has been clear for hours

Trump was so magnanimous when he lost :laugh:

[Vanessa]

You sound nice. People are worried for other people's rights and lives. Let people be worried without gloating.

They'll survive. We have Starmer here as PM and I hate him. But life goes on.

[Glenn.]

You sound nice. People are worried for other people's rights and lives. Let people be worried without gloating.

Oh we’ve had a lengthy talk about it in the discord and her and someone else are positively gleeful that a rapist is president.

No moral values

[Nicky91]

my nation's PM his response
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[BBXX]

They'll survive. We have Starmer here as PM and I hate him. But life goes on.

There is a difference between hating a politician and said politician being the entry way of your rights being stripped away.

[Nicky91]

will be a better meetup in the white house between Schoof and Trump i think than in 2016 between Mark Rutte and Trump

[Glenn.]

There’s also an American in that discord that posted how upset and worried he is now and they had no idea why.

There’s no decency

[Vanessa]

There is a difference between hating a politician and said politician being the entry way of your rights being stripped away.

Can we not just wait and see what he does before?
Before assuming the worst?

[Crimson Dynamo]

will be a better meetup in the white house between Schoof and Trump i think than in 2016 between Mark Rutte and Trump

I see you have done another 180 turn

where is yesterdays signature?

[BBXX]

There’s also an American in that discord that posted how upset and worried he is now and they had no idea why.

There’s no decency

Ignorance to the point of stupidity. Some people can't be helped.

[Glenn.]

Ignorance to the point of stupidity. Some people can't be helped.

Preach it

[Nicky91]

arista

what's the latest results on the house of representatives, how many more seats to go?

[The Slim Reaper]

Ignorance to the point of stupidity. Some people can't be helped.

I don't believe it's ignorance this time around. This is purely on the centrism that is the perfect bedfellow to fascism. It conditions people to think that nothing better is possible, and that billionaires collecting all the money whilst they can't get healthcare is just how it is. Desperation leads to extremism, and this is the historically repeated, Pavlovian response to desperation.

Dems offered literally nothing, whilst trump was out there saying he wanted to end wars and deport people. he gave folks a reason to vote for him, even if we disagree with those reasons (and also that they were mostly lies).

[Nicky91]

okay i looked up

House of Representatives (with 57 still to be determined)

Republicans: 198
Democrats: 180



Senate

Republicans: 52
Democrats: 42



currently us presidency

Trump: 277
Harris: 224

[The Slim Reaper]

Dems saw this and thought they were on the right track. I said Gaza would depress their vote, and it did by 15-20m votes. Trump set to lose 4m votes from 2020, too, but that's how badly the dems have done.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gbrh1GtX0AUHf9z?format=jpg&name=small

[The Slim Reaper]

In 2020, Biden carried the district of Dearborn, Michigan, with 88% of the vote.

This time around:

TRUMP 45%
STEIN 33%
HARRIS 15%

[Nicky91]

20 to go for a win in the house for the republicans


218 is the projected target for a majority

[The Slim Reaper]

Just like Starmer over here, this is how well the dems ignoring a semi-enthusiastic and progressive base, to do outreach the right turned out, and this is what they got to show for it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbsMSB0bgAAVLpl?format=png&name=small

[Nicky91]

i'll just give Trump the benefit of the doubt, to see if he can do better on his 2nd term compared to his 1st term


also how surprising that he talked about Melania's book success, considering he usually more talks about himself

[Maru]

My friend went to a polling place to supervise the count overnight as a regular citizen. There was something that went off at that location related to the building so she went to sit in. She was impressed with how well it was all run and how they were hyper-vigilant about making sure they had a representative from each side all throughout the entire process. They were gleeful enough about her participation they invited her to apply to be part of it next time around... the poll people are very lovely, in my experience.

[arista]

My friend went to a polling place to supervise the count overnight as a regular citizen. There was something that went off at that location related to the building so she went to sit in. She was impressed with how well it was all run and how they were hyper-vigilant about making sure they had a representative from each side all throughout the entire process. They were gleeful enough about her participation they invited her to apply to be part of it next time around... the poll people are very lovely, in my experience.


Good To Hear

Maru.


Can I ask you
why is Harris avoiding the Press?

[Alf]

Dems saw this and thought they were on the right track. I said Gaza would depress their vote, and it did by 15-20m votes. Trump set to lose 4m votes from 2020, too, but that's how badly the dems have done.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gbrh1GtX0AUHf9z?format=jpg&name=smallThat's because last time Dems cheated. That's why the vote froze for 5 days before they declared sleepy Joe the winner with the most votes in history.

And when they couldn't get away with it this time, it was back to running smoothly and settled on the night.

Treason.

[Maru]

Good To Hear

Maru.


Can I ask you
why is Harris avoiding the Press?

I imagine she is really upset. As soon as she concedes, it's going to be a bloodbath (for her, possibly), so better to let people get used to it and give herself breathing room...

[arista]

okay i looked up

House of Representatives (with 57 still to be determined)

Republicans: 198
Democrats: 180



Senate

Republicans: 52
Democrats: 42



currently us presidency

Trump: 277
Harris: 224



Good on you Nicky

[Oliver_W]

Stealing this comment from another forum, but:
He didn't build the wall, he didn't arrest Hillary, and the economy did improve. Maybe it won't be so bad.

[arista]

I imagine she is really upset. As soon as she concedes, it's going to be a bloodbath (for her, possibly), so better to let people get used to it and give herself breathing room...

But she can get her team,
to Record a Video Message

The longer she delays this
it will look worse





Video Message gives her breath room


Disrespecting the Democrats

[Ninastar]

My friend went to a polling place to supervise the count overnight as a regular citizen. There was something that went off at that location related to the building so she went to sit in. She was impressed with how well it was all run and how they were hyper-vigilant about making sure they had a representative from each side all throughout the entire process. They were gleeful enough about her participation they invited her to apply to be part of it next time around... the poll people are very lovely, in my experience.

I had exactly the same experience. Felt no judgement whatsoever

[Ninastar]

Everyone was so friendly and encouraging plus it was very diverse which always makes me happy. That is the America that the media refuses to show.

[The Slim Reaper]

Stealing this comment from another forum, but:
He didn't build the wall, he didn't arrest Hillary, and the economy did improve. Maybe it won't be so bad.

I have no idea how it will turn out, but the wall isn't the problem with him. He couldn't have arrested Hilary, because he didn't have the abilty to do so just on a whim. His supreme court has since given the president the power to do whatever he/she wants, including murdering his political opponents. The economy improved because it was on that trajectory from Obama. It improved by way more under Biden, on that same Obama trajectory.

He will have learned some lessons from his first time around, and whilst I think power and money is enough to satisfy such a small man, the people he has surrounded himself with are extremely dangerous.

[Liam-]

I don’t even think he’ll make it through the full term, he’ll either croak or they’ll get rid of him and install Vance

[bots]

it wouldnt surprise me if someone tries to pop him again and is successful

[arista]

it wouldnt surprise me if someone tries to pop him again and is successful

As USA President, again
he will have Better Protection.

[bots]

He will have learned some lessons from his first time around, and whilst I think power and money is enough to satisfy such a small man, the people he has surrounded himself with are extremely dangerous.


he wants to stay out of jail, make money and play golf. There are plenty nutters in the wings more competent than him that will enact the plan

[Alf]

Kamala could still become the first female President. If sleepy Joe steps down now.

[arista]

Kamala could still become the first female President. If sleepy Joe steps down now.

I doubt that , now

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/06/08/91745653-14047725-image-a-48_1730882946754.jpg

[Alf]

She got over 20 million votes less than Biden.

Did the Democrats really lose over 20 million voters? Or did they just cheat last time?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Vance will be a great successor

It's set up beautifully now

The woke nutjob Dems are so far off the pace the make the Tories look organised

[MTVN]

Anyone heard from Harris yet?

[MTVN]

She got over 20 million votes less than Biden.

Did the Democrats really lose over 20 million voters? Or did they just cheat last time?

It'll be more like 10 million fewer by the time all votes are counted I think

Still a significant drop off though

[Alf]

Anyone heard from Harris yet?She's not conceeding, insurrection incoming.

[Cherie]

it wouldnt surprise me if someone tries to pop him again and is successful

I said this to my son earlier, Vance will probably arrange it :laugh:

[Maru]

Arizona taking forever to count again I see

[MTVN]

She's not conceeding, insurrection incoming.

Two of the first comments I heard this morning as the result was becoming clear was one Democrat blaming 'voter suppression' and 'disinformation' for the result and then someone asked if we had to fear rampaging violence from Republicans off the back of Trump winning :umm2:

[GoldHeart]

Two of the first comments I heard this morning as the result was becoming clear was one Democrat blaming 'voter suppression' and 'disinformation' for the result and then someone asked if we had to fear rampaging violence from Republicans off the back of Trump winning :umm2:

Honestly if I was in America ,I wouldn't be voting for anyone.

I am so disinterested in our politics & American politics is crazy.

Social media is nuts on both sides as well.

[Swan]

Honestly if I was in America ,I wouldn't be voting for anyone.

I am so disinterested in our politics & American politics is crazy.

Social media is nuts on both sides as well.

Yeah that's how i feel. I find American politics "interesting" but try not to get too invested in any of it. It's honestly like a WWE storyline :joker:

[MTVN]

The Democrats really need their own version of Trump in 2028 to win people back round again. An outsider who hasn't spent their whole life towing the party line and can actually speak to their base with enthusiasm and offer something new. Trumps two big successes were:

- reconnecting with the Republican base and particularly blue collar republicans who were sick of the same old drab politicians

- broadening the support to people the Republicans didn't normally speak to. That helped with the Hispanic vote this election but it also really connected with the young vote. Trump made the Republicans cool again especially with the endorsements from people like Joe Rogan, Bryson DeChambeau, Hulk Hogan etc. that was a whole section of voters that was politically homeless and Trump mobilised

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Democrats really need their own version of Trump in 2028 to win people back round again. An outsider who hasn't spent their whole life towing the party line and can actually speak to their base with enthusiasm and offer something new. Trumps two big successes were:

- reconnecting with the Republican base and particularly blue collar republicans who were sick of the same old drab politicians

- broadening the support to people the Republicans didn't normally speak to. That helped with the Hispanic vote this election but it also really connected with the young vote. Trump made the Republicans cool again especially with the endorsements from people like Joe Rogan, Bryson DeChambeau, Hulk Hogan etc. that was a whole section of voters that was politically homeless and Trump mobilised

Don't forget Theo

[Ninastar]

The Democrats really need their own version of Trump in 2028 to win people back round again. An outsider who hasn't spent their whole life towing the party line and can actually speak to their base with enthusiasm and offer something new. Trumps two big successes were:

- reconnecting with the Republican base and particularly blue collar republicans who were sick of the same old drab politicians

- broadening the support to people the Republicans didn't normally speak to. That helped with the Hispanic vote this election but it also really connected with the young vote. Trump made the Republicans cool again especially with the endorsements from people like Joe Rogan, Bryson DeChambeau, Hulk Hogan etc. that was a whole section of voters that was politically homeless and Trump mobilised

Honestly Hulk Hogan talking like he does, ripping off his shirt (and the trump shirt by accident) and then making his nipples dance was the best part of all of it for me

It just didn’t feel real

Like something from a fever dream

It was one of those ‘is this real life?’ moments for sure

[Ninastar]

Also, I live in a very Latino/middle eastern part of town. I was genuinely surprised by how many of them wanted Trump. Like genuinely shocked.

A family I know from Lebanon were saying they want us to help them get their country back together.

[Alf]

The Democrats really need their own version of Trump in 2028 to win people back round again. An outsider who hasn't spent their whole life towing the party line and can actually speak to their base with enthusiasm and offer something new. Trumps two big successes were:

- reconnecting with the Republican base and particularly blue collar republicans who were sick of the same old drab politicians

- broadening the support to people the Republicans didn't normally speak to. That helped with the Hispanic vote this election but it also really connected with the young vote. Trump made the Republicans cool again especially with the endorsements from people like Joe Rogan, Bryson DeChambeau, Hulk Hogan etc. that was a whole section of voters that was politically homeless and Trump mobilisedLike who? There's nobody like Trump. He's a one off.

[Alf]

Also, I live in a very Latino/middle eastern part of town. I was genuinely surprised by how many of them wanted Trump. Like genuinely shocked.

A family I know from Lebanon were saying they want us to help them get their country back together.They've come from tyranny, they've escaped it. So they know what it entails. So of course they support Trump.

[Ninastar]

Honestly what we really truly need here is a party that is in the middle. I can genuinely say that most people I know and talk to would all fall under the ‘middle’ category. They hate the left and the right and feel stuck with who to choose.

I just wish we could have a normal person who has genuinely struggled before in life and knows what it’s like to be at the bottom. I feel like if you have never struggled (or served in the military) you should not be allowed to run for president.

[Ninastar]

They've come from tyranny, they've escaped it. So they know what it is. So of course they support Trump.

Yeah, I guess that’s the basics of it.

Every single person I have talked to about living here (yes, I’m talking about immigrants) have said how much they love and appreciate being here.

And honestly, what is most important to me is that they say their kids are much happier and safer here. Which is hard enough to believe in itself because… Baltimore. But I guess it is better than living in a war torn country

Oh yeah no, so there was one family who did move back to their home country and that was because the father didn’t like how much video games and TV kids were allowed over here. So he took them back so they could appreciate more important things in life.

And that honestly makes sense to me

[Glenn.]

Yeah, I guess that’s the basics of it.

Every single person I have talked to about living here (yes, I’m talking about immigrants) have said how much they love and appreciate being here.

And honestly, what is most important to me is that they say their kids are much happier and safer here. Which is hard enough to believe in itself because… Baltimore. But I guess it is better than living in a war torn country

Oh yeah no, so there was one family who did move back to their home country and that was because the father didn’t like how much video games and TV kids were allowed over here. So he took them back so they could appreciate more important things in life.

And that honestly makes sense to me

It’s just a shame how ill of them he speaks huh

[Oliver_W]

I'm really surprised by how un-close it is. I thought it would be basically 51-49 to one or the other.

I don't think Trump's win could quite be called a "land slide", but it's certainly decisive.

[MTVN]

Honestly Hulk Hogan talking like he does, ripping off his shirt (and the trump shirt by accident) and then making his nipples dance was the best part of all of it for me

It just didn’t feel real

Like something from a fever dream

It was one of those ‘is this real life?’ moments for sure

It really was but honestly this whole campaign has been full on fever dream. We've had Trump convicted of a felony and shot during a rally then by the end of it he's working in McDonalds and driving a bin lorry :joker: and at his winning speech he has Dana White on the microphone I mean wtf is going on really

[Zizu]

I'm really surprised by how un-close it is. I thought it would be basically 51-49 to one or the other.

I don't think Trump's win could quite be called a "land slide", but it's certainly decisive.


Forbes were predicting 60:40 approx to Trump yesterday


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[Alf]

It really was but honestly this whole campaign has been full on fever dream. We've had Trump convicted of a felony and shot during a rally then by the end of it he's working in McDonalds and driving a bin lorry :joker: and at his winning speech he has Dana White on the microphone I mean wtf is going on reallyWell let me answer you a couple of those points. Trump loves his McDonalds but really, it's because Kamala falsely claimed she worked at McDonalds. He was trolling.

The bin man was because Biden called all Trump supporters "Garbage" so he trolled them by becoming the "garbage man"

[MTVN]

Well let me answer you a couple of those points. Trump loves his McDonalds but really, it's because Kamala falsely claimed she worked at McDonalds. He was trolling.

The bin man was because Biden called all Trump supporters "Trash" so he trolled them by becomthe "trash man"

Oh yeah I know why he was doing it, it's just hilarious all the weird **** that happened during this election

And I didn't even get into the Dem campaign and Bidens debate disaster and then him wearing a MAGA hat

What an election

[Ninastar]

It’s just a shame how ill of them he speaks huh

Yeah his mouth is (one of) the worst things about him

[Glenn.]

Well let me answer you a couple of those points. Trump loves his McDonalds but really, it's because Kamala falsely claimed she worked at McDonalds. He was trolling.

The bin man was because Biden called all Trump supporters "Garbage" so he trolled them by becoming the "garbage man"

Vice President Kamala Harris has recalled her stint at a Bay Area McDonald’s 41 years ago in introducing herself to voters — a biographical detail relatable to millions of Americans who have toiled in fast-food restaurants.

But former President Donald J. Trump has repeatedly accused her of inventing it. Lacking a shred of proof, he has charged that she never actually worked under the golden arches — recalling his earlier false claim that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

Mr. Trump’s latest allegation also appears to be false.

Whether a presidential candidate actually flipped burgers as a college student is a far less serious allegation, of course. But Mr. Trump’s seeding of doubts about Ms. Harris’s story, while insidious and outside the lines of traditional fair play in politics, advances his goal of portraying Ms. Harris as a fraud.

No proof she didn’t and every trump fan I’ve seen online is garbage. I’ve yet to find one that’s engaging and clued up

[Alf]

Yeah his mouth is (one of) the worst things about himHe speaks like we the people do. Not like the political class do, with all their lies and avoiding of the questions with political speech. That's why the people love him.

[Oliver_W]

He speaks like we the people do. Not like the political class do, with all their lies and avoiding of the questions eith political speech. That's why the people love him.

I can't say he talks much like me, to be honest :joker:

[Glenn.]

Adding to my previous post that I’ve come to that conclusion by watching his supporters interviewed at his rally’s. They don’t seem to understand anything. When asked about different stuff they just don’t know the answer or just give the wrong answer.

One that comes to mind is a red neck complaining that Obama didn’t do anything about 9/11

[Alf]

I can't say he talks much like me, to be honest :joker:You never worked in a factory or a building site ect, Where the common man works? Them's the people Trump speaks for, the little, forgotten people. The ones who work themselves to death for peanuts, but are so valuable to our survival. While the elites rob them blind by taxing them to death

[Ninastar]

If you’re going to run a country, you need to learn how to speak like a decent human being

[Alf]

If you’re going to run a country, you need to learn how to speak like a decent human beingWho made those rules? What's not decent about the common person?

[Ninastar]

No one, it’s just my simple opinion :)

[Glenn.]

He called immigrants “animals”

[Vanessa]

You never worked in a factory or a building site ect, Where the common man works? Them's the people Trump speaks for, the little, forgotten people. The ones who work themselves to death for peanuts, but are so valuable to our survival. While the elites rob them blind by taxing them to death

He's an excellent businessman and is going to do great things for America.

[Swan]

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The delusion getting real

[Alf]

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The delusion getting realTypical Democrats, blaming the non-White people.

[Glenn.]

I mean she could if she wanted to. Trump did the exact same thing last time :joker:

[Swan]

I mean she could if she wanted to. Trump did the exact same thing last time :joker:

What would make her any less petty than him if she did do that?

[Alf]

Notice anything here? You still think I was talking bullsh!t when I continued for 4 years to say it was stolen?

Treason


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[Alf]

They needed Covid to cheat. I also said that, and I stick by it.

[Glenn.]

:joker: :joker:

[Glenn.]

What would make her any less petty than him if she did do that?

Nothing. The fact that she won’t means she’s a far better person than he is.

[Ninastar]

Nothing. The fact that she won’t means she’s a far better person than he is.

Definitely

[MTVN]

Wow Kamala looks like a corpse

[Maru]

Who the hell wrote this speech

[MTVN]

Who the hell wrote this speech

A GCSE English student

[Ninastar]

Oh no

Anyone got a link?

[Maru]

Oh no

Anyone got a link?
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[Ninastar]

She doesn’t look that bad imo, she looks super sad though and it’s hard to watch

[Ninastar]

I just found one! 1 hour + of live feed but I found it. Thank you!

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is why she lost and lost big
Fake, insincere, humourless, woke twit

Who on earth can't see through that pish?

Astounding that anyone voted for her and he fake pronouns

[Swan]

#DoNotConcedeKamala is currently trending on Elon Musk's X. Kinda ironic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

#DoNotConcedeKamala is currently trending on Elon Musk's X. Kinda ironic.

It's not ironic. It's indicative of 18 year old idiots on social media

[bots]

it could be explained as a mistake from voters in 2016, but not in 2020 and most certainly not in 2024. This is who the american people are and they are the way they are because of the decades of failure from the political system.

Sometimes the political system does need to be burned down if it's not fit for purpose. Hilary Clinton set the scene for 2024 in 2015 by calling people deplorable. That set the voters on the path that led to now

[Oliver_W]

Yes Kamala, I too remember how unpeaceful the handover of monarchial power was in Buckingham Palace :rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

it could be explained as a mistake from voters in 2016, but not in 2020 and most certainly not in 2024. This is who the american people are and they are the way they are because of the decades of failure from the political system.

Sometimes the political system does need to be burned down if it's not fit for purpose. Hilary Clinton set the scene for 2024 in 2015 by calling people deplorable. That set the voters on the path that led to now

Agreed that was a watershed moment, a hideous moment.

The liberal out of touch elites showing their hand

[Cal.]

Do NOT concede Kamala! It’s voter fraud!

[Quantum Boy]

It's not ironic. It's indicative of 18 year old idiots on social media

And yet after 2020's election, there were full grown men on this forum saying the same thing about Trump... Until as recently as 2023 :think:.

[bots]

I liked Kamala. I think what she achieved in 100 days was not far short of a miracle. She will always have my respect

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dan calls out the bias MSM coverage beautifully

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[Nicky91]

Do NOT concede Kamala! It’s voter fraud!

it's not voter fraud


Trump won in a fair and square way




this is that Bush landslide win over Kerry all over again, only difference that Kerry was a stronger opponent compared to emotionless, Miss zero charisma Kamala

[Nicky91]

Donald Trump: 295
Kamala Harris: 226

with 17 TBD




as for the house

Republicans: 206 (12 more to go to reach the majority)
Democrats: 191

[Ninastar]

The more I think about it, the more I feel so bad for Kamala. She was kind of just thrown into the race when the public finally realised that Biden was no longer fit to be president.

They knew he wasn’t doing too hot and kept acting like everything was going great. I genuinely think it’s the reason why they lost.

It also brings about presidential age into question. Should there be an age cut off? I think there should be. But again, that’s not exactly fair on someone who may be completely healthy and competent at 87 vs someone who gets dementia at like 57

Ugh just so many things went wrong and it’s a damn shame

[Crimson Dynamo]

The more I think about it, the more I feel so bad for Kamala. She was kind of just thrown into the race when the public finally realised that Biden was no longer fit to be president.

They knew he wasn’t doing too hot and kept acting like everything was going great. I genuinely think it’s the reason why they lost.

It also brings about presidential age into question. Should there be an age cut off? I think there should be. But again, that’s not exactly fair on someone who may be completely healthy and competent at 87 vs someone who gets dementia at like 57

Ugh just so many things went wrong and it’s a damn shame

'Don't Despair,' Kamala Tells Celebrating Nation

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gbvle70XYAwD2OD?format=jpg&name=small

While Americans of all ages, races, and socioeconomic backgrounds
continued to joyously celebrate Trump's return to power, Harris pleaded with
everyone not to give in to any feelings of sorrow and heartbreak.

[arista]

Yes Harris can bugger off,

They can Elect a better Party Leader


USA President Biden is to go Live 4PM UK Time
all News

[bots]

There are a lot of devastated people after trump winning. I thought Kamala's speech was perfect

[Quantum Boy]

There are a lot of devastated people after trump winning. I thought Kamala's speech was perfect

It was Bots but some people are exceptionally keen to see those people give in and be broken. If anything it's 90% of the reason they're happy about the Trump win in the first place. "Stick it to the wokies" or whatever tragic mission is floating the ice in their dram tonight.

Less fun for them if people remain stoic, thus her very reasonable speech must be mocked, else this window of opportunity for insubstantial sporadic joy be missed.

No one here obviously.

But some people.

[arista]

There are a lot of devastated people after trump winning. I thought Kamala's speech was perfect

No Way at the start

She started repeating the same words

Like Mad Women

[bots]

No Way at the start

She started repeating the same words

Like Mad Women

Rubbish, the crowd were loud and she needed to repeat it

[Alf]

Here is her perfect speech. I'm sure it came from the heart, with so much thought put into it.

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[Glenn.]

Am I missing something?

[Quantum Boy]

Am I missing something?

Alf not getting nasty or gloating :skull:

[arista]

President Biden
just spoke far better than Harris.

He Spoke in brief for around 5mins
He confirmed he spoke on the phone to
President-Elect Trump to congratulate him

And confirmed he has lost this battle.


Like Harris he was 30mins late.

[Maru]

Listening to Biden's speech. Way better... (for me)

[arista]

Listening to Biden's speech. Way better... (for me)



Yes 5mins was all he needed


Fair talking


Good he said a Peaceful handover

[Beso]

It was Bots but some people are exceptionally keen to see those people give in and be broken. If anything it's 90% of the reason they're happy about the Trump win in the first place. "Stick it to the wokies" or whatever tragic mission is floating the ice in their dram tonight.

Less fun for them if people remain stoic, thus her very reasonable speech must be mocked, else this window of opportunity for insubstantial sporadic joy be missed.

No one here obviously.

But some people.




99% for me.:smug:

[Alf]

99% for me.:smug:Does a true Scotsman take ice in his dram?

[Alf]

"The blame game begins. Biden is blaming Obama & Pelosi for forcing him out. Harris is blaming Biden for sabotaging her campaign. Dem pundits are calling blacks & Latinos misogynists for voting for Trump. They Dems didn’t lose because they stabbed each other in the back. They lost because they stabbed the American people in the back with their policies of open borders, inflation, the abuse of the rule of law, & their endless lies."


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[Alf]

It wasn't a landslide, it was a tsunami.


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[Ninastar]

https://x.com/turtledumplin/status/1854565000394031318?s=46

So I think this is one of the best posts re the whole election/supporters etc

[Nicky91]

It wasn't a landslide, it was a tsunami.


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good to see so much confidence in Trump then


although the bar was really low after the Biden administration and Kamala also didn't deliver much in her campaign either

[Oliver_W]

Alf not getting nasty or gloating :skull:
Stop The Gloats :D

Listening to Biden's speech. Way better... (for me)
To be fair, he'd already "lost" a few weeks back. It's easier for him to view the situation with some balance.

https://x.com/turtledumplin/status/1854565000394031318?s=46

So I think this is one of the best posts re the whole election/supporters etc
Good post for sure.

"If you're not with hundo per, you're against us" turns people off.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.spectator.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/image.png

[Glenn.]

It wasn't a landslide, it was a tsunami.


1854365276042866999

Very odd.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcHRiZHawAA--2F?format=jpg&name=small

[Glenn.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcHRiZHawAA--2F?format=jpg&name=small

1855747963395481843?s=46&t=jGjsPOhSduCbgISdXHWlrQ

Was gonna wait for a few more people to post brainless things before replying with this but it was too good not to.

[Crimson Dynamo]

1,566 Followers

he must be a Martha-type influencer

:joker:


Still great to see you using and posting Elon's free speech platform

:thumbs:

[Glenn.]

1,566 Followers

he must be a Martha-type influencer

:joker:


Still great to see you using and posting Elon's free speech platform

:thumbs:

I must have clocked you. :joker:

[Glenn.]

I think Lara Trump is the perfect example of why a woman should have a choice of her own body.
Nothing screams unwanted pregnancy than a mother, ignoring her own crying child while she gets pissed on cheap wine.

[Glenn.]

I’m loving the videos from Trump supporters that have been dumped by their friends and family.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As Elon said

must just be coincidence....


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcCYEOobwAAX0RQ?format=jpg&name=small

[bots]

the rules for voter registration are shocking in some states. All the have to do is recite an oath that they are who they say they are ..... that is crazy whatever your political affiliation

[Ninastar]

It also leads to people getting their votes stolen. I was talking to a guy who went to vote and they told him that he had already voted and if he wanted to complain about it he could put in a complaint after the election

I would be so pissed.

[Glenn.]

Someone likened this result as someone getting a D and then an F then an A+

Very suspicious

[Oliver_W]

The fact that someone who married into the Trump family seems about as responsible around children as Harris is, doesn't mean a whole lot.

That said, I'm not convinced that even is wine Harris had, I'm not a big drinker but it didn't look like any wine I've seen, more like pop!

[Maru]

the rules for voter registration are shocking in some states. All the have to do is recite an oath that they are who they say they are ..... that is crazy whatever your political affiliation

It also leads to people getting their votes stolen. I was talking to a guy who went to vote and they told him that he had already voted and if he wanted to complain about it he could put in a complaint after the election

I would be so pissed.

The worst part is even if the vote is not maybe being stolen, it has a very real effect of making people distrust the result...and that has negative effects on how people will perceive things are going, even if things are going relatively well, they may attribute that to well it could've gone better but...

[Glenn.]

The fact that someone who married into the Trump family seems about as responsible around children as Harris is, doesn't mean a whole lot.

That said, I'm not convinced that even is wine Harris had, I'm not a big drinker but it didn't look like any wine I've seen, more like pop!

It’s not about responsibility around children. It’s pointing out that the republicans have an issue with a grown adult having the audacity to have a glass of wine but will turn a blind eye to actual neglect of a crying child.

The children in the photo of Kamala don’t seem to be having a bad time.

[Oliver_W]

It’s not about responsibility around children. It’s pointing out that the republicans have an issue with a grown adult having the audacity to have a glass of wine but will turn a blind eye to actual neglect of a crying child.

The children in the photo of Kamala don’t seem to be having a bad time.

I do get that, but only one of the women in question are anywhere near politics. I hadn't even heard of his daughter in law before that post, so she's probably not prominently in his campaigns :shrug:

[Glenn.]

I do get that, but only one of the women in question are anywhere near politics. I hadn't even heard of his daughter in law before that post, so she's probably not prominently in his campaigns :shrug:

You don’t need to be in politics to be a decent parent.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy. It’s the best part

[Ninastar]

The worst part is even if the vote is not maybe being stolen, it has a very real effect of making people distrust the result...and that has negative effects on how people will perceive things are going, even if things are going relatively well, they may attribute that to well it could've gone better but...

Yeah, makes me feel like we can’t trust the government or something…

Wack

[Maru]

Yeah, makes me feel like we can’t trust the government or something…

Wack

This election felt really good and I was stress free on the day I went in to vote and even watching the results, I felt pretty good, so I'll take that as a win... but supposedly Arizona has some stuff going on. I don't know what to make of Arizona taking its time, tbh, but I know several people there and they don't trust their results at all which is a scary place to be... Officials always say that when they're very casual about how the vote is taken, that even if it's fraudulent (signatures wrong, missing, etc), it'll be weeded out magically during the count and I think that's just not good enough :spin: ... all it takes is a few bad actors. It's not rocket science.

[bots]

This election felt really good and I was stress free on the day I went in to vote and even watching the results, I felt pretty good, so I'll take that as a win... but supposedly Arizona has some stuff going on. I don't know what to make of Arizona taking its time, tbh, but I know several people there and they don't trust their results at all which is a scary place to be... Officials always say that when they're very casual about how the vote is taken, that even if it's fraudulent (signatures wrong, missing, etc), it'll be weeded out magically during the count and I think that's just not good enough :spin: ... all it takes is a few bad actors. It's not rocket science.

there won't be that many, and if it's a close vote, everything is scrutinised in a recount. So, i dont think thats really a problem area

I'm more sceptical about the fact that trump won by 3% in a lot of places, but thats just me :laugh:

[Alf]

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[arista]

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Yes Alf
I love her Passion.

[bots]

An interesting few polls since the election ( 1 week ago ) have shown that increasing numbers of republicans are happy with the current state of the economy and an increasing number of democrats are unhappy with the economy :laugh: