ITV2HD Tuesday 9PM-10:15PM (Day 16) Big Brother 2024 Discussion

[Ammi]

lily spilling the tea

…they already took the tea away…

[Lostie!]

Lily clocked them :clap1:

[NICKP]

I love Lily and Ali’s friendship

[Benjamin]

I don't like porridge either. It's so bland

The fact even the sugar Sarah tried to hide got taken too

[smudgie]

Lily proving she isn’t as daft as she lets on.:laugh:

[Adamw92]

Izaaz :love:

[Conzors]

Yeah but why’s she not said it to his face? She’s also being two faced.

Baked potato is so nice to be honest

[Ammi]

Lily proving she isn’t as daft as she lets on.:laugh:

…she might lose that wisdom with her porridge diet…

[bots]

i love oats in all forms

[Adamw92]

Lily clocked them :clap1:

She read them for filth. Ali is the only reason either of them are relevant tonight.

[Benjamin]

Baked potato is so nice to be honest

I love BP a lot

[Vanessa]

BP is such a lovely woman.

[smudgie]

Porridge is very healthy food…as long as there is no sugar.:laugh:

[Glenn.]

I don't like porridge either. It's so bland

What do you have it with, water?

Porridge is lovely

[Adamw92]

Starve yourself then hun. Don’t break the rules. Simple.

[joeysteele]

Hanah is coming across really bad tonight.

[Ammi]

I love BP a lot

…:lovedup:…tomorrow it’ll all be forgotten, there there…so sweet…

[Benjamin]

I feel like Hanah is signing her eviction notice for next week

[Conzors]

Hanah came across so well yesterday and today it’s all gone pear shaped

[smudgie]

So why don’t you walk then Hannah.
Cocky twit.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wait till Segan hears about Hanahs gag reflex


Gutted

[Ammi]

I feel like Hanah is signing her eviction notice for next week

Hanah came across so well yesterday and today it’s all gone pear shaped

…sadly, yep…

[bots]

Spud doesn't know where to look :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Segan backpedaling now :laugh:

[thesheriff443]

He bottled it

[Benjamin]

I can actually see Hanah and Ali being evicted in a double next week

[Adamw92]

Camera man #3 being fake as hell. You were sat in the hot tub laughing, you’re not sorry. Go back to the camera run where you belong. :idc:

[joeysteele]

So why don’t you walk then Hannah.
Cocky twit.

If I'd been BB that's what I'd have suggested she did too smudgie

[smudgie]

Segun is a weak two faced blip.

[Benjamin]

Segun at least be a man, you weren’t saying it as a joke. Coward

[Maru]

Going to catch up now. I had to run errands

[arista]

Hannah is Tough



Refusing to eat plain porridge

[Ammi]

Segan backpedaling now :laugh:

… ‘it was just a joke’ ….hmmmm, no it wasn’t….

[bots]

Going to catch up now. I had to run errands

be prepared

[Maru]

Nooooo Hanahhh

[MTVN]

Lovely apology from Segun :love:

[thesheriff443]

Just a prank bro

[Ammi]

Going to catch up now. I had to run errands
….:love:..

[Maru]

be prepared

:bawling:

[thesheriff443]

:bawling:

Love your posts

[Benjamin]

At least Hanah is owing it, Segun is such a coward.

[Adamw92]

Hanah, with all due respect. He had multiple people standing up for him, he didn’t need anyone to make sure he’s okay.

[bots]

i don't like the way hanah is trying to play every conceivable minority card

[Swan]

At least Hanah is owing it, Segun is such a coward.

Yeah and she's making some good points too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Mar Gello?

[smudgie]

I think Hannah has the hots for Khaled.

[Maru]

Oh noo even BB is saying red witch now :joker:

[Vanessa]

I don't trust her either

[Maru]

Love your posts

Thank you, Shereef

:douf:

[smudgie]

Gender war, a bit ott I reckon Hannah.

[Ammi]

Oh noo even BB is saying red witch now :joker:

…except Martha, she says ginger witch…:laugh:…

[Lostie!]

Izaaz :love:

What a gent. Travesty if he goes

[FromBB8]

I guess this is what Ali means - Hanah pinning the pairings on Ali and Dean not saying anything to the contrary.

[bots]

thomas has ****ed off out the house for the day :laugh:

[Adamw92]

What a gent. Travesty if he goes

Shame, isn’t it? :( only decent guy there.

[FromBB8]

thomas has ****ed off out the house for the day :laugh:

You're only asking this now??? :laugh:

[Vanessa]

thomas has ****ed off out the house for the day :laugh:

The Tesco shift :joker:

[Beso]

Hannah was spot on about the males being expected to act in a certain way.

[Benjamin]

thomas has ****ed off out the house for the day :laugh:

He popped in for his ten second weekly appearance. Same time next week guys. Stay tuned.

[Swan]

thomas has ****ed off out the house for the day :laugh:

He's out of his depth with all this, so many other stronger characters. And he doesn't really seem like the type to get involved with confrontation

[Dogeatdog]

Missed the episode because of football I’m catching up now on +1

[Benjamin]

Missed the episode because of football I’m catching up now on +1

Sarah’s a treat in this ep :lovedup:

[Ammi]

He's out of his depth with all this, so many other stronger characters. And he doesn't really seem like the type to get involved with confrontation

…yeah exactly that…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hanah saying porridge is giving Famine is a Xenophobic hate crime

Where is Hamza Useless when you need him?

[Ammi]

Missed the episode because of football I’m catching up now on +1

…happy catch up…:love:..

[Benjamin]

Hahaha of course they out two chickens in the oven

[Dogeatdog]

Sarah’s a treat in this ep :lovedup:

Ooh I can’t wait :love:

[Garfie]

Hanah, with all due respect. He had multiple people standing up for him, he didn’t need anyone to make sure he’s okay.

It was only Nathan who stood up for him when a number of the girls were attacking him. Hanah has a fair point.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I swear down

Oh Dean please stop with the Roadman act

[Dogeatdog]

…happy catch up…:love:..

:love:

[Benjamin]

lol Sarah accidentally rumbling them

[arista]

More Rule breaks


He put a Chicken in the oven.

[Ammi]

…Lily snitching on the chicken…

[Adamw92]

It was only Nathan who stood up for him when a number of the girls were attacking him. Hanah has a fair point.

No it wasn’t, he had Marcello and Segun backing him too. Even if it was only 1 person that’s still not “no one saying anything” is it?

[Vanessa]

Not them trying to hide a chicken :joker:

[Benjamin]

…Lily snitching on the chicken…

It was Sarah, she thought she’d left it in there

[Conzors]

Marcello is dumb do they really think big brother wouldn’t know?

[Swan]

That would have pissed me off too tbh, im on Marcello's side here :joker:

[Vanessa]

:laugh3:Marcello

[Ammi]

It was Sarah, she thought she’d left it in there

…not my Sarah, surely…

[smudgie]

More rule breaks. Chuffing idiot.:fist:

[Garfie]

He popped in for his ten second weekly appearance. Same time next week guys. Stay tuned.

:laugh:

[Adamw92]

Don’t know why he’s so annoyed, like even if they managed to fully cook it Big Brother wouldn’t just let them eat it.

[Maru]

Missed the episode because of football I’m catching up now on +1

Same. I'm at the part where Khaled is talking about being stabbed here here and in his ass....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Crafty Cello, I like it

[Ammi]

…chicken-gate…

[Adamw92]

Don’t apologise Sarah

[Benjamin]

Marcello don’t be a dick to Sarah she thought it was her fault.

[Benjamin]

Lily sticking up for Sarah

[Ammi]

…Sarah and Marcello not friends today…

[Vanessa]

Phil from EastEnders :joker:

[bots]

like bb wouldn't have seen them eating chicken

[Ammi]

…’go over there, we’re done…’…wow…

[Swan]

"i feel like chicken tonight, like chicken tonight"

Tensions are so high in the house atm. We might even get a Fight Night during this series, i swear :laugh:

[Adamw92]

Can’t stand this cretin, get him out

[Conzors]

If Ali or lily hid the chicken in the oven marcello and everyone would be fuming but cos marcello did it people are finding it funny.

Hanah is right about Gender but the opposite side this time rude

[smudgie]

Marcello is pathetic.
Ruined his chicken mission.
He really wouldn’t have got away with it, he is the numpty, eating said chicken.

[Conzors]

…’go over there, we’re done…’…wow…

Proves the way he talks to women

[bots]

oops Marcello sealing his fate

[Benjamin]

Sarah :clap1:

[Conzors]

Sarah don’t you dare apologise, drag him

[FromBB8]

If Ali or lily hid the chicken in the oven marcello and everyone would be fuming but cos marcello did it people are finding it funny.

Hanah is right about Gender but the opposite side this time rude

You're right to an extent, but I think it's down to the people involved rather than gender.

[Swan]

Sarah in the right here for sure

[Conzors]

Sarah hasn’t ****ed up!!!!

[Ammi]

…it wasn’t a joke Marcello, you were angry and dismissed her…

[bots]

Marcello was not joking about the chicken

[smudgie]

Please get Marcello out.
Nathan can stay another week.

[Adamw92]

Keep coming for the nations sweetheart Marcreepo. Gain those eviction votes :clap1:

[Benjamin]

Stand your ground Sarah :clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

That Chicken caper would have worked like a charm and the Vegans blagged to the feds

[Ammi]

Sarah in the right here for sure

…Marcello’s behaviour is pretty bad and he’s struggling to contain his anger with her…

[Dogeatdog]

Same. I'm at the part where Khaled is talking about being stabbed here here and in his ass....

Yep just see that part kinda feel for Hanah, she was basically used and if Lily would’ve been up for nomination, hanah would’ve just been collateral damage if she ended up being evicted.

[Ammi]

…wow, that was an episode…

[smudgie]

Too late Marcello, we saw you losing your rag.
Joke my backside.

[madman411]

good god marshmallow is so annoying.

[bots]

i hope that saves Izaaz

[Vanessa]

Marcello isn't helping himself here

[Crimson Dynamo]

Marcello isn't helping himself here

He wanted to help himself to the Chicken

[Adamw92]

Now that was some mild gaslighting there. He made the issue and went at Sarah and then tried to turn it around on her and make out that she was the one with the problem.

[Ammi]

…’it was just a joke’ is such a fake thing to say…/…just own your anger in that moment…

[smudgie]

i hope that saves Izaaz

Marcello must now be favourite to go after all that crap tonight.

[Lostie!]

Hopefully Marcello just saved Izaaz :fc:

[ThomasC]

Proves the way he talks to women

Yes it does.

He had my 5 votes a couple of days a go.

I like Isaac as he has a back bone and isn't being a sheep

[MTVN]

Marcello is imperfect but always makes up in the end, respect that

[joeysteele]

Nothing to like re Marcello or Hanah tonight.

Nor Segun too but then he's just there anyhow, doesn't stand by much of anything or for anything.

[Ammi]

Proves the way he talks to women

…yeah absolutely, it was quite revealing…

[Benjamin]

Now that was some mild gaslighting there. He made the issue and went at Sarah and then tried to turn it around on her and make out that she was the one with the problem.

I’m glad she wasn’t having any of it and stood her ground with him with her view. They are friends but she’s right to call him out when he acts like that.

[ThomasC]

…yeah absolutely, it was quite revealing…

Agreed.

[Adamw92]

I’m glad she wasn’t having any of it and stood her ground with him with her view.

Same. Love her even more now :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The only thing that was revealed was Marcello was hungry

[bots]

…’it was just a joke’ is such a fake thing to say…/…just own your anger in that moment…

he was really angry about the chicken, blaming them for telling BB .... it was never a joke :laugh:

[Maru]

I'm at Thomas' 15 seconds of cameratime

[Dogeatdog]

Cor Thomas spoke a full sentence in the diary room.

[bots]

At the end, Thomas walks in with a burger king wrapper stuck to his foot

[Benjamin]

I'm at Thomas' 15 seconds of cameratime

Cor Thomas spoke a full sentence in the diary room.

Are you two at the same point haha

[Dogeatdog]

Are you two at the same point haha

Yep :laugh:

[FromBB8]

That was a weird one.

Out of the mezzanine three, I'm trying to look at it with an unbiased eye and I think Khaled came out best.

Hanah at least spoke to Dean but why not Ali as well? Especially as I think her greater issue was with her. Lily was right in the Diary Room.

I'd have had more respect for Segun if he was open and honest about his reasons behind the name calling. It was not a joke.

I still think Ali brought a lot of this on herself for reasons I have already stated. And she didn't have a great episode, still going after Dean but not bringing it up with him, whilst Hanah, for example, can bring up a more serious issue with him. And the fixation with Khaled as though he's the root of all her problems in there - if she hadn't picked Hanah then Hanah probably wouldn't be bothered. Though that's my other issue with Hanah; suddenly she cares about Khaled's history in the house??? She was close to him, but wasn't as vocal before.

Nathan is playing such an odd game. What's with the slow spreading of doubting Ali?

The funniest part of the episode was "There's a chicken in the oven... there's a chicken in the oven... there's a chicken in the oven... there's a chicken in the oven", followed by "Please can one Housemate bring the chicken to the Diary Room". But Marcello may just be overtaking Izaaz in the eviction vote now.

[Maru]

Wtf hanah yelling back at BB :joker:

[Dogeatdog]

Martha come on that was never gonna work.

[Maru]

Yep :laugh:

:laugh:

[Maru]

I'm at chickengate

[Dogeatdog]

I’m at say it with chest.

[Maru]

I'm so glad that pimple is burst with the red witch/wolf ****... just let it all be out in the open at this rate

[Dogeatdog]

Nnnnnn. Hanah with the back chat to BB she’s got me pumped up :laugh:

[Garfie]

Nothing to like re Marcello or Hanah tonight.

Nor Segun too but then he's just there anyhow, doesn't stand by much of anything or for anything.

This is opinion stated as fact. In my view, Hanah made some intelligent and accurate points. You might not agree with them but it’s truer to say that, for you there was nothing to like.

[Dogeatdog]

“I just put the chicken in the oven” :laugh:

[Maru]

I'm at the part where Nathan nearly died

[Garfie]

At the end, Thomas walks in with a burger king wrapper stuck to his foot

:laugh:

[Dogeatdog]

I like Hanah she’s a bit of a wildcard. Feel like anything could happen if you piss her off.

[Maru]

I like Hanah she’s a bit of a wildcard. Feel like anything could happen if you piss her off.

Exactly. I watch her closely because she tells you what's really happening in the house in between the lines...

[Dogeatdog]

Dean is a sly bastard. Martha is a suck ass. Izaaz needs to piss off home. Can’t stand either of them three.

[Maru]

Sugar and the bag of sugar :laugh:

[bots]

it was a pretty iconic episode

[Maru]

Oh God, please walk Dean.. yes, it's a game... what did you think you signed up for???

[rusticgal]

Dean is a sly bastard. Martha is a suck ass. Izaaz needs to piss off home. Can’t stand either of them three.



Totally agree with this.

[Maru]

it was a pretty iconic episode

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[Maru]

Dean is a sly bastard. Martha is a suck ass. Izaaz needs to piss off home. Can’t stand either of them three.

:worship:

[Dogeatdog]

Sarah the sugar thief. New title for the fanclub?

[Maru]

Ali is not surprised by the red witch commentary... is that not a red flag to her? If I thought someone I knew thought I was insane enough to give me crazy names on their shipping labels, I'd be maybe like "hmm"... maybe I'm a bitch?

[Adamw92]

Ali is not surprised by the red witch commentary... is that not a red flag to her? If I thought someone I knew thought I was insane enough to give me crazy names on their shipping labels, I'd be maybe like "hmm"... maybe I'm a bitch?

Why would it be a red flag to her? She knows they don’t like her so it’s not that big a leap to think they’ve been calling her names and bitching about her behind her back?

[Ammi]

Sarah the sugar thief. New title for the fanclub?

…oh sugar, sugar…Sarah our candy girl…?..

[rusticgal]

Ali tells her mates that Dean left her to take the flak…why doesn’t she tell him so?….she called Khalid fake for being nice…but the judgemental Ali slagging Dean off behind his back and not saying it to his face.
Why?…because she has him just where she wants him.

[Saph]

Did big brother not know about the chicken in the oven?

[joeysteele]

This is opinion stated as fact. In my view, Hanah made some intelligent and accurate points. You might not agree with them but it’s truer to say that, for you there was nothing to like.

Well obviously it's for me there was nothing to like
I only post MY views on here, no one else's.
Who else's view did I say it was.????

Crying out loud.

[Adamw92]

Did big brother not know about the chicken in the oven?

I kind of like the idea that big brother let it cook so that it would smell so nice and then they could take it off of them. :joker:

[Dogeatdog]

…oh sugar, sugar…Sarah our candy girl…?..

Not too much sugar tho… they say she’s sweet enough :love:

[Maru]

I'm at joint and muscular pain relief... (CMs)

[Ammi]

Did big brother not know about the chicken in the oven?

…there were two chickens in the oven, they knew about one but it doesn’t feel as though they knew there was a second one…

[Ammi]

Not too much sugar tho… they say she’s sweet enough :love:

…:love:…she’s for sure a sweetheart…

[Saph]

…there were two chickens in the oven, they knew about one but it doesn’t feel as though they knew there was a second one…

Maybe they were hoping someone would eat it for the drama

[Maru]

It would've been funnier if they grabbed the chicken, but then all took pieces off of it while running it to the store room

[Dogeatdog]

Dean is just sly and out for himself. I feel like he sees Ali group as the stronger side but I’d say she’s only got 1 loyal person in her corner and that’s Lilly

[bots]

being called a red witch obviously isn't a red flag to the board of forensic psychologists, so no danger of being struck off

[Maru]

Dean is just sly and out for himself. I feel like he sees Ali group as the stronger side but I’d say she’s only got 1 loyal person in her corner and that’s Lilly

He is very much into the rules/strategies of the game. He screams nerd. He reminds me of a DnD player. (in a good way)

[Maru]

Lily stop crying about porridge, it's probably better for your pores

[FromBB8]

I kind of like the idea that big brother let it cook so that it would smell so nice and then they could take it off of them. :joker:

I imagine they were planning to let Marcello cook it, then ask for it to be delivered to the Diary Room. Free lunch.

I have no idea how he expected to get away with it. Perhaps it's because he was in a place with no cameras? Oh wait...

[bots]

I imagine they were planning to let Marcello cook it, then ask for it to be delivered to the Diary Room. Free lunch.

I have no idea how he expected to get away with it. Perhaps it's because he was in a place with no cameras? Oh wait...

the smell of a cooking chicken would never permeate the cardboard wall to the camera run :laugh:

[Maru]

Dean crying. The social isolation in there must be unreal atm..

[Adamw92]

I imagine they were planning to let Marcello cook it, then ask for it to be delivered to the Diary Room. Free lunch.

I have no idea how he expected to get away with it. Perhaps it's because he was in a place with no cameras? Oh wait...

I love that idea even more :laugh:

[FromBB8]

I love that idea even more :laugh:

It's what I would have done in their shoes. :laugh:

[Dogeatdog]

“I can’t do plain porridge, that’s famine” honestly her quotes have me creasing :laugh:

[Maru]

Not a joke, Segun

[Dogeatdog]

It was a joke oh come on Segun

[Maru]

Noooo don't be mean to Emma

[Maru]

BB get them they're writing morse code on people with makeup

[Maru]

Hanah: Marjello

[Zizu]

Hanah and co reminded me there of the awful Jay and his sidekicks known as the wolfpack against Aaron in the first BB on channel 5.


Not watching but they sound more like Olivia and her band of deadlegs from the last series


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[Adamw92]

It's what I would have done in their shoes. :laugh:

Deliciously evil… pun intended.

[Dogeatdog]

I’ve honestly come to the conclusion that if all these lot just stopped bullshitting and lying to each other and actually backed themselves on what they say they’d probably feel a lot better.

[rusticgal]

Lily stop crying about porridge, it's probably better for your pores


If she can eat what comes out of her nose…she can eat porridge :laugh:

[Maru]

I’ve honestly come to the conclusion that if all these lot just stopped bullshitting and lying to each other and actually backed themselves on what they say they’d probably feel a lot better.

Yeah they've gotten too absorbed in the gameplaying aspect of the house

[Maru]

If she can eat what comes out of her nose…she can eat porridge :laugh:

Right??

[Benjamin]

If she can eat what comes out of her nose…she can eat porridge :laugh:

:joker:

[Maru]

Not watching but they sound more like Olivia and her band of deadlegs from the last series


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You should watch this episode, you'll like it.

[Maru]

LOL The burnt chicken... they're stuck with that smell now (they all deserve it, tbh)

[Maru]

I can see why the crankiness is so off the charts because these people are acting so hard to live with atm.. with the constant rule breaks, the bitching, the moodiness with the food situation, the copious amounts of cope & seethe... just drama for the sake of it at this rate.

Oh and this is where the vegan joke thing happened... I'm at that part.

[Maru]

I have no idea what they're fighting about if I'm honest....

[Maru]

Marshmellow is being melty

[FromBB8]

I have no idea what they're fighting about if I'm honest....

Apparently there's a chicken in the oven. It wasn't really mentioned.

[Maru]

Ok well then

[Dogeatdog]

Marcello was being a dick about the chicken. He blatantly would’ve been clocked by BB.

[Garfie]

Well obviously it's for me there was nothing to like
I only post MY views on here, no one else's.
Who else's view did I say it was.????

Crying out loud.

You seem to be purposely misunderstanding the point I made. I didn’t suggest you were stating anyone else’s views, and I credit you with being well aware of that. I said that you’d stated your opinion as fact.

Why the sarcasm and aggression in your response? I feel your attitude here suggests you are looking to turn a minor comment into some major point of contention, but I’m just not here for that. :shrug:

[Abra]

The fact that Ali heard all of those comments made by Hanah and still found a way to make it into Khaled's fault :joker: Her obsession with him is wild

[Redway]

Not B.B. ratting them all out like that.

At least Hannah says the tings with her chest and to the face.

[Mrluvaluva]

Ali is just **** stirring again imo. She's telling all and sundry, who will listen to her, Dean was more forthright in decision forming and yet she's saying basically she's being demonised for it, yet, she hasn't spoken with Dean about it from what I saw. And Dean doesn't really have a backbone if that is the case. It's like "woe is me", let me go and slag Dean off and I've come to the conclusion that it's intentional and part of her gameplay.

[Redway]

Big Brother see everything, Marcello. They would’ve called you out on the chicken with or without other HMs pointing it out.

How daft is this guy?

[Redway]

Seriously, why’s Marcello trying to hide the chicken ting, as if B.B. doesn’t have cameras everywhere?

[thesheriff443]

Seriously, why’s Marcello trying to hide the chicken ting, as if B.B. doesn’t have cameras everywhere?

Because like others have said in the past they forget the camera are there

Plus being hungry makes people angry and interferes with brain function

[BBXX]

Now Ali is after Dean. She really is a professional victim

She was 100% correct though, nothing she said about Dean was mean, it was just what what happened.

[BBXX]

I acknowledge that they are rounding on her, but it is Ali's actions which have helped lead to this. And she is now starting to turn on Dean too.

Is it? She's had a few disagreements with Khaled and Marcello. That is literally all that's happened. She actually seems to be on solid ground with Marcello most of the time despite head bashing now and again.

How does that warrant three people rounding in on her? And also, why is Hanah bothered they used her to protect Lily, when they saved them both later anyway?

It's so interesting because whenever Ali mentions anyone negatively, it's constantly framed by people on here are "targeting" and "turning on". How can one person target 5 different people? :laugh: She's making observations on situations, whether her observations are right or wrong doesn't matter, but they all are mentioning people all the time... is Nathan "targeting" Martha? Is he "turning on" Ali?

Makes me laugh that Ali is accused of targeting Sarah... BP... Dean...by saying something negative to one other person, or in the Diary Room, but Segun, Hanah and Khaled all agreeing to nominate Ali next week isn't "targeting" :shrug:

[BBXX]

I think that scene in with Segun and Khaled in the hot tub was uncomfortable, and the smirk that Khaled in particular gave is exactly the kind of thing Ali was talking about. He looks incredible smug.

[Oliver_W]

I like the way Aziz pronounces Ali's name was if she's a Pakistani man.

[FromBB8]

Is it? She's had a few disagreements with Khaled and Marcello. That is literally all that's happened. She actually seems to be on solid ground with Marcello most of the time despite head bashing now and again.

How does that warrant three people rounding in on her? And also, why is Hanah bothered they used her to protect Lily, when they saved them both later anyway?

It's so interesting because whenever Ali mentions anyone negatively, it's constantly framed by people on here are "targeting" and "turning on". How can one person target 5 different people? :laugh: She's making observations on situations, whether her observations are right or wrong doesn't matter, but they all are mentioning people all the time... is Nathan "targeting" Martha? Is he "turning on" Ali?

Makes me laugh that Ali is accused of targeting Sarah... BP... Dean...by saying something negative to one other person, or in the Diary Room, but Segun, Hanah and Khaled all agreeing to nominate Ali next week isn't "targeting" :shrug:

Yes. To me Ali had been targeting Khaled and making his life uncomfortable in there being she thought he wasn't genuine. She's also dealt with it far differently to the likes of Sarah and Rosie, where she's aired the view in the Diary Room but not the house. Everyone where she stands with him and, the moment someone has a disagreement with him, it suddenly comes out of nowhere that Ali may be right - see Martha, Izaaz, Thomas.

Additionally it looks worse because we saw the three of them vent but, in terms of building a target, it was little worse than Ali and Dean's sessions on the live feed which didn't make the highlights. It is working both ways in there. It isn't as if the three are suddenly disliking Ali for no reason. Particularly Khaled.

[joeysteele]

You seem to be purposely misunderstanding the point I made. I didn’t suggest you were stating anyone else’s views, and I credit you with being well aware of that. I said that you’d stated your opinion as fact.

Why the sarcasm and aggression in your response? I feel your attitude here suggests you are looking to turn a minor comment into some major point of contention, but I’m just not here for that. :shrug:

There were plenty others saying negatives but you just jumped on my post for whatever reason

That's fine.
However I'm not here for that either!!!

There was NO sarcasm,no attitude from me at all.
Just making a point.

I didn't respond to anything you posted, it was you who nitpicked at my own contribution.

[joeysteele]

Big Brother see everything, Marcello. They would’ve called you out on the chicken with or without other HMs pointing it out.

How daft is this guy?

He seems unbelievably so.

Although it was really daft to think they wouldn't or couldn't see him with the fork and the chicken then walking round in the kitchen grabbing a piece of it to eat.

Spot on from you.

[BBXX]

Yes. To me Ali had been targeting Khaled and making his life uncomfortable in there being she thought he wasn't genuine. She's also dealt with it far differently to the likes of Sarah and Rosie, where she's aired the view in the Diary Room but not the house. Everyone where she stands with him and, the moment someone has a disagreement with him, it suddenly comes out of nowhere that Ali may be right - see Martha, Izaaz, Thomas.

Additionally it looks worse because we saw the three of them vent but, in terms of building a target, it was little worse than Ali and Dean's sessions on the live feed which didn't make the highlights. It is working both ways in there. It isn't as if the three are suddenly disliking Ali for no reason. Particularly Khaled.

I agree that Ali hasn't handled the Khaled situation correctly, but I do think there is a bit of a difference between Dean and Ali, or Lily and Ali, or Martha and Ali discussing a HM and Segun, Hanah and Khaled plotting to all nominate her.

Segun, Hanah and Khaled should be allowed to talk freely about their thoughts on Ali (aside from calling her a witch and discussing nominations) without it being labelled bullying or ganging up, why is the same not afforded to Ali? It's always 'targeting' and 'turning on' but when others do similar, or worse, it's fine.

Ali has an issue with Khaled. I don't agree with her issue per se (though he spent most of yesterday looking smug). That's not targeting, that's someone not liking someone else, which happens in life. The reason it's been different is because she voiced her opinion to someone who shared it with Khaled, which led to Ali and Khaled talking, and things went from there. Because Khaled knows how Ali feels, every time there is a head-but, it feeds into their conversation, as it's bound to.

People talk about people infantilising Lily but many viewers do the same with Khaled. He's a grown man having a disagreement with a grown woman.

[arista]

“I just put the chicken in the oven” :laugh:


Yes he needs to be Punished Hard
as he even eats bits of it.................................

[FromBB8]

I agree that Ali hasn't handled the Khaled situation correctly, but I do think there is a bit of a difference between Dean and Ali, or Lily and Ali, or Martha and Ali discussing a HM and Segun, Hanah and Khaled plotting to all nominate her.

Segun, Hanah and Khaled should be allowed to talk freely about their thoughts on Ali (aside from calling her a witch and discussing nominations) without it being labelled bullying or ganging up, why is the same not afforded to Ali? It's always 'targeting' and 'turning on' but when others do similar, or worse, it's fine.

Ali has an issue with Khaled. I don't agree with her issue per se (though he spent most of yesterday looking smug). That's not targeting, that's someone not liking someone else, which happens in life. The reason it's been different is because she voiced her opinion to someone who shared it with Khaled, which led to Ali and Khaled talking, and things went from there. Because Khaled knows how Ali feels, every time there is a head-but, it feeds into their conversation, as it's bound to.

People talk about people infantilising Lily but many viewers do the same with Khaled. He's a grown man having a disagreement with a grown woman.

For me, Ali was expressive about her opinion of Khaled to a wider group, including to those who were friendly with Khaled which, even if unintentional, can feel like an attempt to be influential and sway opinions. That's slightly different for me to Hanah, Khaled and Segun discussing it who, all of solo mind, would have nominated her even without the discussion yesterday. That was the stupidity behind their words; they didn't even have to say them to each other.

Up until yesterday housemates seemed to be in agreement that Khaled hadn't said a bad word to them about Ali - something which frustrated her greatly as she viewed it as him being fake.

I would add that Lily has also called out Khaled to a wider group, though not, from what we have seen, to his face. Now I have typed that, due to their closeness, part of me wonders whether one reason Ali approached Khaled in the first place was so Lily wouldn't be dragged into it.

But this is why I would stand by the argument that Ali has targeted Khaled more than the other way round, even after the events of yesterday's show.

[Mrluvaluva]

Is it? She's had a few disagreements with Khaled and Marcello. That is literally all that's happened. She actually seems to be on solid ground with Marcello most of the time despite head bashing now and again.

How does that warrant three people rounding in on her? And also, why is Hanah bothered they used her to protect Lily, when they saved them both later anyway?

It's so interesting because whenever Ali mentions anyone negatively, it's constantly framed by people on here are "targeting" and "turning on". How can one person target 5 different people? :laugh: She's making observations on situations, whether her observations are right or wrong doesn't matter, but they all are mentioning people all the time... is Nathan "targeting" Martha? Is he "turning on" Ali?

Makes me laugh that Ali is accused of targeting Sarah... BP... Dean...by saying something negative to one other person, or in the Diary Room, but Segun, Hanah and Khaled all agreeing to nominate Ali next week isn't "targeting" :shrug:

Ali and Dean didn't know they were going to be able to killer nominate/save and replace.

Let's talk hypothetically. If Lily hadn't been paired with Hanah. Say it was Hanah and Sarah for instance. And Hanah and Sarah were both up for eviction and Lily was safe in a different pairing. Do you think Ali would have gone the same way or, in her mind, would she have been tempted to save Nathan? Would save and replace even have been applied?

I feel Hanah was saved only because of Lily and I guess Hanah can see this. Of course it's a tactical game but she's not just taking this one thing into consideration. Ali can be unreasonable in her behaviour and dismissive of others and we don't actually get to see everything.

[FromBB8]

Ali and Dean didn't know they were going to be able to killer nominate/save and replace.

Let's talk hypothetically. If Lily hadn't been paired with Hanah. Say it was Hanah and Sarah for instance. And Hanah and Sarah were both up for eviction and Lily was safe in a different pairing. Do you think Ali would have gone the same way or, in her mind, would she have been tempted to save Nathan? Would save and replace even have been applied?

I feel Hanah was saved only because of Lily and I guess Hanah can see this. Of course it's a tactical game but she's not just taking this one thing into consideration. Ali can be unreasonable in her behaviour and dismissive of others and we don't actually get to see everything.

On the grounds that Ali didn't know Save and Replace was going to be a choice, I think she made a tactical mis-step with pairing Hanah with Lily. I think Lily should have been Khaled. Hanah and Lily were nominated by Emma & Thomas, Nathan & Izaaz and Rosie & Sarah. I'm not sure whether any of them would have as comfortable nominating Khaled as they were Hanah. Ali became so fixated that Khaled's group were the ones nominating Lily, she didn't consider the wider house, and where relationships had formed.

[GoldHeart]

ITVX isn't working for me,oh well I can't catch-up on yesterday episode :rolleyes:.

[FromBB8]

ITVX isn't working for me,oh well I can't catch-up on yesterday episode :rolleyes:.

The episode's been taken down for "compliance" reasons, apparently.

[GoldHeart]

The episode's been taken down for "compliance" reasons, apparently.

:conf: really? . At first I thought it was some error .

[Beso]

I cant remeber and it's all a bit blurry now, BUT, didnt Ali want to target Sarah when they first started deliberating their choices?