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She talks differently to him, and he gets more leeway than any of the other men with her and they always have a big strong hug after every conversation.
Niamh.
23-10-2024, 10:20 AM
No
Lol no. If she fancied any male in the house the obvious one would be Khalid. That be mean to them so they wont think you like them kinda deal thingy.
Lostie!
23-10-2024, 10:27 AM
The amount of people online I've seen invalidating Ali's sexuality this series is grim
The amount of people online I've seen invalidating Ali's sexuality this series is grim
She's had boyfriends before, and openly said she can find men attractive on day 2 or 3. But that she prefers women a lot more and would probably only have relationships with women now.
Lostie!
23-10-2024, 10:30 AM
She's had boyfriends before, and openly said she can find men attractive on day 2 or 3. But that she prefers women a lot more and would probably only have relationships with women now.
She's a lesbian. Plenty of gay people have dated people of the opposite sex before coming out. It's not that difficult of a concept to understand.
She's a lesbian. Plenty of gay people have dated people of the opposite sex before coming out. It's not that difficult of a concept to understand.
She said herself she can find men attractive, what can't you understand about that? Maybe she finds Khalid attractive and it annoys her, hence her frightening hatred of him.
Lostie!
23-10-2024, 10:34 AM
She said herself she can find men attractive, what can't you understand about that? Maybe she finds Khalid attractive and it annoys her, hence her frightening hatred of him.
And she said herself she's a lesbian. Finding someone attractive and fancying them are not the same thing. I'm gay and I can find females attractive, I have no sexual or romantic interest in them though
Imagine thinking you know a perfect stranger's sexual orientation better than they do. I guarantee you wouldn't be suggesting any of this if she had short hair and dressed masculine
And she said herself she's a lesbian. Finding someone attractive and fancying them are not the same thing. I'm gay and I can find females attractive, I have no sexual or romantic interest in them though
Imagine thinking you know a perfect stranger's sexual orientation better than they do.
Well at least you can see the fault in your post now.
Anyway, we're bound to explore every avenue for Ali's irrational hatred against a dark skinned Muslim male. He's literally done nothing wrong.
It was tongue in cheek, i doubt she does fancy him, im starting to lean more towards his religion as a reason for her irrational hatred now anyway
It's not a case of "go gay, you gotta stay" she changed once, so can change again..theres gay men on here who have slept with women after coming out.
Niamh.
23-10-2024, 10:37 AM
Well at least you can see the fault in your post now.
Anyway, we're bound to explore every avenue for Ali's irrational hatred against a dark skinned Muslim male. He's literally done nothing wrong.
I'm no Ali fan but implying she's racist is ridiculous
Lostie!
23-10-2024, 10:38 AM
Well at least you can see the fault in your post now.
Anyway, we're bound to explore every avenue for Ali's irrational hatred against a dark skinned Muslim male. He's literally done nothing wrong.
Where's the fault in my post? I'm afraid I can't see it, please enlighten me oh wise one.
Ah, the racism accusation is being trotted back out. :joker: It's even funnier coming from someone who's a proven bigot themselves
I'm no Ali fan but implying she's racist is ridiculous
Where's the fault in my post? I'm afraid I can't see it, please enlighten me oh wise one.
Ah, the racism accusation is being trotted back out. :joker: It's even funnier coming from someone who's a proven bigot themselves
Then why does she hate him so much? I just find it ironic how the same people defending her would be all over someone like Ryan had he been so hateful towards Khalid
GoldGlitter
23-10-2024, 10:40 AM
These disgusting questions are always being directed at Ali. Asking if she fancies different men in the house. I've seen quite a few on here.
These disgusting questions are always being directed at Ali. Asking if she fancies different men in the house. I've seen quite a few on here.
Discuss it then..
Niamh.
23-10-2024, 10:44 AM
Then why does she hate him so much? I just find it ironic how the same people defending her would be all over someone like Ryan had he been so hateful towards Khalid
Me? I don't even like Ali. I had no issue at all with Ryan. The racist line is weak regardless of the HM, she's done nothing at all to suggest she dislikes Khaled because of his race
Where's the fault in my post? I'm afraid I can't see it, please enlighten me oh wise one.
Ah, the racism accusation is being trotted back out. :joker: It's even funnier coming from someone who's a proven bigot themselves
With respect lostie you are just a man with a sexual orientation discussing a female with a sexual orientation
just like the rest of us..being gay doesnt give you care blanche into Alis head..you are in the exact same boat as swan
Me? I don't even like Ali. I had no issue at all with Ryan. The racist line is weak regardless of the HM, she's done nothing at all to suggest she dislikes Khaled because of his race
No not you. Im talking about the same people branding Ryan a "bigot" for no actual reason . But those same people would absolutely be all over a Ryan had he been so hateful towards Khalid
Crimson Dynamo
23-10-2024, 10:47 AM
It would certainly explain the erratic and mean behavoir. It could be all the men in the house has made her question her Lesbian switch and now she is raging that she has not left any doors open for a switch back?
Niamh.
23-10-2024, 10:49 AM
It would certainly explain the erratic and mean behavoir. It could be all the men in the house has made her question her Lesbian switch and now she is raging that she has not left any doors open for a switch back?
:rolleyes:
Niamh.
23-10-2024, 10:51 AM
The double standards are so weird. Nathan is viewed as a gay man because he likes men too but Ali can't possibly be a lesbian because she was previously with men.
Kate!
23-10-2024, 10:55 AM
No she doesn't fancy any of the men in the house.
FromBB8
23-10-2024, 10:56 AM
No. I would say she has the strongest bond with him out of all the male housemates, but does not fancy him.
:rolleyes:
I don't personally think she does fancy Khalid at all. Like i said in my OP, if it was any male HM it could only point to Khalid as an explanation for her hate for him. But no, i don't think she fancies him, or any other man.
But people are bound to try and find reasons as to why she has such a disdain for the guy. It's not like he's some loud obnoxious egotistical guy who tries to hog the camera. He's a chill, polite guy, yet she detests him.
It might be ridiculous for people to speculate about these things, but when you can find no other logical reason, it's human nature to explore the illogical. Her hate of him is baffling, and it has to stem from somewhere. We'll probably never know though.
And im calling this now, if he gets cheers on Friday, expect Sunday's HL show to show her taking him aside and asking for a "clean slate"
arista
23-10-2024, 10:58 AM
No
She prefers a slow talker like him
Crimson Dynamo
23-10-2024, 10:59 AM
The double standards are so weird. Nathan is viewed as a gay man because he likes men too but Ali can't possibly be a lesbian because she was previously with men.
we do not know if he is a full gay or indeed if he has ever been with a man
:nono:
Niamh.
23-10-2024, 11:04 AM
we do not know if he is a full gay or indeed if he has ever been with a man
:nono:
He said he came out as gay before
It's not a case of "go gay, you gotta stay" she changed once, so can change again..theres gay men on here who have slept with women after coming out.
Do you also query whether straight HM's fancy the same sex as them? Does Khaled fancy Segun? They seem pretty close...
Ali has called herself a lesbian. The constant (not just by you) questioning on whether she fancies men when she's specifically stated she's a lesbian is disrespectful. People don't struggle to come to terms with their sexuality only for others to invalidate it.
Do you also query whether straight HM's fancy the same sex as them? Does Khaled fancy Segun? They seem pretty close...
Ali has called herself a lesbian. The constant (not just by you) questioning on whether she fancies men when she's specifically stated she's a lesbian is disrespectful. People don't struggle to come to terms with their sexuality only for others to invalidate it.
Kahled and Segun don't t pull each others hair then hug afterwards to make up.
Kahled and Segun don't t pull each others hair then hug afterwards to make up.
That's a no then...
That's a no then...
It's a would if I saw something pointing towards it.
Crimson Dynamo
23-10-2024, 11:34 AM
I mean look at Schofield
Crimson Dynamo
23-10-2024, 11:34 AM
Or Edwards
Both men from a generation in which being gay was a criminal offence and then when it wasn't was still frowned upon. Many older gay men have lived secret lives married to women, fathering children, hiding away simply because it wasn't safe to be a gay man.
If Ali had inclinations to be in relationship with a man or partake in sexual activity with a man, at any point, she'd identify as bisexual or queer, or do what Nathan does and simply not put a label on it. She called herself a lesbian and there is no reason why that shouldn't be respected.
If you want further education on the complexities of sexuality, I am sure there are resources out there that can help.
caprimint
23-10-2024, 12:08 PM
Absolutely not, even if she wasn't a lesbian she'd go for a guy who isn't such a **** towards women
we do not know if he is a full gay or indeed if he has ever been with a man
:nono:
did you see him in the diary room early in the hl last night? That was 100% gay man
People don't turn one way or another, they are what they are. Trying to explain conflict as sexual attraction, just doesn't apply 99% of the time
thesheriff443
23-10-2024, 12:18 PM
The double standards are so weird. Nathan is viewed as a gay man because he likes men too but Ali can't possibly be a lesbian because she was previously with men.
I don’t have a problem with Ali being a lesbian and have never questioned her wanting any of the men or even thinking she wants any of the men
Don’t have a problem with Nathan not putting a label on his sexuality but and it’s a big but everything about Nathan screams out gay man
From the way he dresses his mannerisms the looks he gives he’s the pouting lips
The fact that it’s a game show the fact this romance came out of the blue the cringy interactions makes it perfectly reasonable to question Nathan
Ali has given no indication at all that she wants a man from the house or from the outside world
Don’t have a problem with Nathan not putting a label on his sexuality but and it’s a big but everything about Nathan screams out gay man
From the way he dresses his mannerisms the looks he gives he’s the pouting lips
The fact that it’s a game show the fact this romance came out of the blue the cringy interactions makes it perfectly reasonable to question Nathan
Ali has given no indication at all that she wants a man from the house or from the outside world
i pointed out his diary room interview in the HL last night. It was exactly as you say. All his mannerisms shouted gay man
thesheriff443
23-10-2024, 12:31 PM
Not really the right thread but if you look last night at Ali’s reaction to being targeted she wasn’t upset she was happy because she had got a negative and nasty reaction out of three housemates in front of the whole house
Her eyes lit up, because in that moment she went from the agressor to the victim
Not really the right thread but if you look last night at Ali’s reaction to being targeted she wasn’t upset she was happy because she had got a negative and nasty reaction out of three housemates in front of the whole house
Her eyes lit up, because in that moment she went from the agressor to the victim
Yep. Im amazed at how many people she's fooling, but there you are. So glad i checked the odds and got 10/1 on her now. I don't want her to win, but at least if she does i'll win £200.
Both men from a generation in which being gay was a criminal offence and then when it wasn't was still frowned upon. Many older gay men have lived secret lives married to women, fathering children, hiding away simply because it wasn't safe to be a gay man.
If Ali had inclinations to be in relationship with a man or partake in sexual activity with a man, at any point, she'd identify as bisexual or queer, or do what Nathan does and simply not put a label on it. She called herself a lesbian and there is no reason why that shouldn't be respected.
If you want further education on the complexities of sexuality, I am sure there are resources out there that can help.
That's a bit of a reach, you don't know me, you dont know my age..I will tell you though, I'm from the generation that opened the door for gays to be as gay as they want.
Generation x baby.
GlitterUK
23-10-2024, 01:32 PM
No.
But I think Martha fancies Ali.
Segun and Hanah go really well
Rosie and Nathan have something, just cannot work out.
That's a bit of a reach, you don't know me, you dont know my age..I will tell you though, I'm from the generation that opened the door for gays to be as gay as they want.
Generation x baby.
I didn't say anything about your age. I questioned how much you are educated on homosexuality. Some previous comments you've made come across as ignorant or just simply homophobic.
Unless you were actually active in your Generations door opening, you can't take credit for it. If you were, that's great but it would be very at odds with some remarks you've made previously that are somewhat problematic.
Very active in opening doors..and as a collective, a whole generation..thank us later.
BBXX, could you quote me something I've said to make you think I'm homophobic please.
GoldGlitter
23-10-2024, 02:02 PM
She talks differently to him, and he gets more leeway than any of the other men with her and they always have a big strong hug after every conversation.
Are you off your trolley? Absolutely.
Are you off your trolley? Absolutely.
Probably...are you easily excited?
BBXX, could you quote me something I've said to make you think I'm homophobic please.
Most recently calling the Jordan/Henry relationship a "gay parade" that you were force fed. And now invalidating Ali's sexuality.
I don't know you so I'm not saying you are homophobic, but some of the comments I have read are questionable to me, that's all.
I do think she was flattered when he joked about them kissing in the smoking room. She kept randomly bringing it up with others and carrying it on at the time. I think that bought him time as far as her taking issue with the way he naturally speaks. And I actually think Marcello knows this. I think it might be why he went to check on her after Khaled/Segun/Hanah's talk about her was exposed. But actual attraction towards him? I very much doubt it.
Crimson Dynamo
23-10-2024, 02:23 PM
Very active in opening doors..and as a collective, a whole generation..thank us later.
And its why the yoof of today have never had it so good Beso
Pioneers like us never ask for thanks, don't want it tbh
we were DEI champions before it was even invented
:flutter:
Most recently calling the Jordan/Henry relationship a "gay parade" that you were force fed. And now invalidating Ali's sexuality.
I don't know you so I'm not saying you are homophobic, but some of the comments I have read are questionable to me, that's all.
I'm in deep doodoo then if that's classed as homophobic...crikey..
And its why the yoof of today have never had it so good Beso
Pioneers like us never ask for thanks, don't want it tbh
we were DEI champions before it was even invented
:flutter:
It would have been so much different if culture club were shite.
Glenn.
23-10-2024, 03:14 PM
It's not a case of "go gay, you gotta stay" she changed once, so can change again..theres gay men on here who have slept with women after coming out.
Who?
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 05:43 PM
She talks differently to him, and he gets more leeway than any of the other men with her and they always have a big strong hug after every conversation.
First of all, she’s a lesbian.
Second of all, if anyone in there fancies that cretin they need their head examined. He’s vile.
First of all, she’s a lesbian.
Second of all, if anyone in there fancies that cretin they need their head examined. He’s vile.
Gay people can fancy straight people, the same way straight people can fancy gay people. You can't help who you fancy at times. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen. But to say a person of a certain sexual orientation is immune to fancying someone of a different orientation is ridiculous.
First of all, she’s a lesbian
Shes a woman first, and she can bloomin well change back anytime she wants. Are you, as a gay man going to deny this woman her right of choice?
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 06:12 PM
Shes a woman first, and she can bloomin well change back anytime she wants. Are you, as a gay man going to deny this woman her right of choice?
She’s perfectly happy with fancying women. She’s stated she’s a lesbian, if she felt she could “change back” she would label herself as bi but she didn’t. Not everyone has to fancy Khaled the way you do, it’s okay.
She’s perfectly happy with fancying women. She’s stated she’s a lesbian, if she felt she could “change back” she would label herself as bi but she didn’t. Not everyone has to fancy Khaled the way you do, it’s okay.
What if he did fancy Khaled? Khaled is a good looking bloke. Bit of a narrow minded take honestly.
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 06:17 PM
Gay people can fancy straight people, the same way straight people can fancy gay people. You can't help who you fancy at times. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen. But to say a person of a certain sexual orientation is immune to fancying someone of a different orientation is ridiculous.
How many lesbians have you known that have suddenly decided they fancy men? If people of specific sexual orientations felt it possible they would label themselves as bisexual, bicurious or even pansexual. The way people on here are so fixated on her apparently fancying the men she’s found a dislike for just to use it as a way to invalidate her sexual orientation is what’s ridiculous. Do you go around saying to any straight person you meet when they tell you they categorically could not fancy someone of the same gender that they’re ridiculous for believing so?
She’s perfectly happy with fancying women. She’s stated she’s a lesbian, if she felt she could “change back” she would label herself as bi but she didn’t. Not everyone has to fancy Khaled the way you do, it’s okay.
She can still change back whenever she wants.:shrug:
Even in a pressure cooker atmosphere when emotions are all over the place.
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 06:19 PM
What if he did fancy Khaled? Khaled is a good looking bloke. Bit of a narrow minded take honestly.
What’s narrow minded is that he presumed my own sexual orientation because I defended a lesbian by saying she wouldn’t fancy someone like Marcello. Are you gonna call that out?
How many lesbians have you known that have suddenly decided they fancy men? If people of specific sexual orientations felt it possible they would label themselves as bisexual, bicurious or even pansexual. The way people on here are so fixated on her apparently fancying the men she’s found a dislike for just to use it as a way to invalidate her sexual orientation is what’s ridiculous. Do you go around saying to any straight person you meet when they tell you they categorically could not fancy someone of the same gender that they’re ridiculous for believing so?
I dont think she fancies any men in the house, which i've stated elsewhere. But are you seriously saying a gay person is immune to fancying a straight person, or vice versa?
Gender and sexuality are 2 very different things. Stop attempting to blur the lines.
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 06:21 PM
She can still change back whenever she wants.:shrug:
Even in a pressure cooker atmosphere when emotions are all over the place.
If she proclaimed that she was bisexual she could “change back” but she didn’t. She said it very clearly that she has never felt more like herself or right within herself until she discovered that she doesn’t actually fancy men but is a LESBIAN.
What’s narrow minded is that he presumed my own sexual orientation because I defended a lesbian by saying she wouldn’t fancy someone like Marcello. Are you gonna call that out?
I didn't presume anything tyvm.
What’s narrow minded is that he presumed my own sexual orientation because I defended a lesbian by saying she wouldn’t fancy someone like Marcello. Are you gonna call that out?
I don't think she fancies Marcello, no. I don't think she fancies Khaled either. She has said she was with men before coming out, so i guess you could ask the question in general. But yes, agreed, if you're a lesbian, you fancy women, that's fair. Just like in my previous reply to you, being gay, or straight, wont stop someone fancying you.
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 06:24 PM
I dont think she fancies any men in the house, which i've stated elsewhere. But are you seriously saying a gay person is immune to fancying a straight person, or vice versa?
Gender and sexuality are 2 very different things. Stop attempting to blur the lines.
Tell me where I blurred the lines between gender and sexuality? I asked if you say the same thing about it being possible for a straight person to fancy someone of the same sex… which would mean fancying a man… therefore they wouldn’t be straight.
A straight person is very clearly immune to fancying a gay person, yes. Otherwise they wouldn’t call themselves gay. They can appreciate someone is good looking, doesn’t mean they have any sexual attraction to that person.
Edit: thanks for pointing out my mistake.
It's not about wanting to hook up with marcello anyway. It's just simply, a does she fancy him question.
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 06:25 PM
I didn't presume anything tyvm.
Shes a woman first, and she can bloomin well change back anytime she wants. Are you, as a gay man going to deny this woman her right of choice?
.
Tell me where I blurred the lines between gender and sexuality? I asked if you say the same thing about it being possible for a straight person to fancy someone of the same sex… which would mean fancying a man… therefore they wouldn’t be straight.
A gay person is very clearly immune to fancying a straight person, yes. Otherwise they wouldn’t call themselves gay. They can appreciate someone is good looking, doesn’t mean they have any sexual attraction to that person.
Absolutely no way is that true. A straight man can, and has been smitten with a lesbian in history. The same way a gay guy would be smitten with a straight guy. No, it wont happen, but we can't help who we fall for or/and fancy.
This is my point of you blurring the lines. You are saying gay guys are immune from fancying, or falling for straight guys, and again, vice versa.
I didn't say anything about your age. I questioned how much you are educated on homosexuality. Some previous comments you've made come across as ignorant or just simply homophobic.
Unless you were actually active in your Generations door opening, you can't take credit for it. If you were, that's great but it would be very at odds with some remarks you've made previously that are somewhat problematic.
I do apologise.
I totally mis read your previous post I quoted. First time I read it, I thought I and that other poster were the 2 old guys, but it was Schofield and hew.
I got a bit defensive.
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 06:30 PM
Absolutely no way is that true. A straight man can, and has been smitten with a lesbian in history. The same way a gay guy would be smitten with a straight guy. No, it wont happen, but we can't help who we fall for or/and fancy.
This is my point of you blurring the lines. You are saying gay guys are immune from fancying, or falling for straight guys, and again, vice versa.
Are you being serious? I have not once stated that a gay man can’t fancy a straight man. I said a straight man wouldn’t be straight if he fancies or is sexually attracted to another man. He is at the very least bi or bi curious
Are you being serious? I have not once stated that a gay man can’t fancy a straight man. I said a straight man wouldn’t be straight if he fancies or is sexually attracted to another man. He is at the very least bi or bi curious
You literally just said a gay person is immune from fancying a straight person.
It works both ways too, a straight person is fully NOT immune of fancying a gay person.
Crimson Dynamo
23-10-2024, 06:32 PM
I think she is jealous of him far more
Glenn.
23-10-2024, 06:34 PM
Straight people need to stay in their lane with this ****.
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 06:34 PM
You literally just said a gay person is immune from fancying a straight person.
It works both ways too, a straight person is fully NOT immune of fancying a gay person.
My bad, I just noticed. I meant it the other way around. Sorry.
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 06:34 PM
But you are :shrug:
You don’t know me. Like at all.
Straight people need to stay in their lane with this ****.
Nah, they don't. People are saying gay people can't fancy straight people, and straight people can't fancy gay people. It's ridiculous.
Glenn.
23-10-2024, 06:35 PM
Nah, they don't. People are saying gay people can't fancy straight people, and straight people can't fancy gay people. It's ridiculous.
Well I’m gay and I don’t fancy women
Well I’m gay and I don’t fancy women
That's fine, that's a gender thing. Im not debating that. Im saying a straight guy can fancy a gay woman, the same way a gay guy can fancy a straight guy.
And again, no, i don't think Ali fancies Khaled, Marcello, or any of the guys. But i do question her hatred for Khaled for other reasons.
You don’t know me. Like at all.
You are in my little black book as one, do I need to rub you out?
Glenn.
23-10-2024, 06:41 PM
That's fine, that's a gender thing. Im not debating that. Im saying a straight guy can fancy a gay woman, the same way a gay guy can fancy a straight guy.
And again, no, i don't think Ali fancies Khaled, Marcello, or any of the guys. But i do question her hatred for Khaled for other reasons.
You’re wrong but I can’t be arsed to talk to you about it.
GoldHeart
23-10-2024, 06:42 PM
I don't think Ali fancies Marcello AT ALL ,but no doubt she likes the fact he finds her attractive. She's probably one of those people who enjoys the ego trip, she's narcissistic.
Adamw92
23-10-2024, 06:42 PM
You are in my little black book as one, do I need to rub you out?
Why don’t you just add me to your “don’t talk to me” list instead? :idc:
Why don’t you just add me to your “don’t talk to me” list instead? :idc:
Yes, I think that would be best.:wavey:
You’re wrong but I can’t be arsed to talk to you about it.
Nah, no point us talking, we'll never see eye to eye. But my point stands, if you think straight men can't fancy gay women, or that gay men can't fancy straight men then you really need to educate yourself on human psychology.
Ali could probably help you that that :hee:
Glenn.
23-10-2024, 06:45 PM
Nah, no point us talking, we'll never see eye to eye. But my point stands, if you think straight men can't fancy gay women, or that gay men can't fancy straight men then you really need to educate yourself on human psychology.
Ali could probably help you that that :hee:
Cool story bro
Cool story bro
Cool story bro? Lmfao, brilliant. 2010 called and wants it's saying back :joker:
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Glenn.
23-10-2024, 06:51 PM
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