Calling this now with Ali and Khaled

[Swan]

If Khaled gets cheers on Friday night (and avoids eviction), Sunday's HL show will see Ali asking for a "clean slate" with him, and that things got "out of hand, the house is a pressure cooker" and that she "may have judged him wrongly" etc etc..

[Black Dagger]

She asked for a clean slate days ago. He ruined that.

[Swan]

She asked for a clean slate days ago. He ruined that.

How did he?

[Beso]

How did he?

By attempting a joke with her when he went nah nah, I've been waiting for this moment. I told you it wasnt easy.


Shes obviously humourless.

[romeofahey]

Sadly I don't think he will get cheers. The eviction crowds are usually full of her delusional fans

[Beso]

Sadly I don't think he will get cheers. The eviction crowds are usually full of her delusional fans



I call them flants.

[GoldHeart]

She asked for a clean slate days ago. He ruined that.

He didn't ruin jack all , she refused to call a truce . Her words were " let's not talk anymore as we don't like eachother and you keep watching the camera's trying to look look " .

Oh and she accused him of " point scoring " ,when all he wanted was her to understand how difficult HOH decision making was for him, after all she tried pulling him up on not having " empathy" . Yet here she was coldly refusing to take on board what he was saying.

You'll have to excuse me though Dagger,as I'm a day behind...and the bliddy ITVX won't let me watch Tuesday's episode :fist: .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Such a humourless woman

[rusticgal]

She asked for a clean slate days ago. He ruined that.


He went to share a predicament they had both faced..an ice break having seen her shedding tears…and instead of accepting that she turned on him as point scoring.

She will get jeered on Friday…and hopefully he will be saved and Swan is right she will change tact…

[Swan]

He didn't ruin jack all , she refused to call a truce . Her words were " let's not talk anymore as we don't like eachother and you keep watching the camera's trying to look look " .

Oh and she accused him of " point scoring " ,when all he wanted was her to understand how difficult HOH decision making was for him, after all she tried pulling him up on not having " empathy" . Yet here she was coldly refusing to take on board what he was saying.

You'll have to excuse me though Dagger,as I'm a day behind...and the bliddy ITVX won't let me watch Tuesday's episode :fist: .

Yeah i noticed that earlier too. Strange.

[Beso]

Yeah i noticed that earlier too. Strange.

Maybe hannah's famine comments didnt look right.:shrug:

[Glenn.]

She already did that. He ****ed it up

[GoldHeart]

She already did that. He ****ed it up

No he did not ,she turned it into a massive argument. She's a depressing rain cloud of negativity . And when Khaled is saved on Friday,she will plot and change her pathetic strategy again.

[Maru]

He went to share a predicament they had both faced..an ice break having seen her shedding tears…and instead of accepting that she turned on him as point scoring.

She will get jeered on Friday…and hopefully he will be saved and Swan is right she will change tact…

Yeah he keeps trying to chip at her thinking just a little bit more and I'll get through her ice wall... and all he's getting is an ice sculpture out of his efforts. He should just stop :laugh:

Since she is the most obvious villain (BB: "The red witch...") she'll get jeered absolutely...and if she's really considering dropping Psychology to pursue activism, then perhaps that should be her new X handle...

[Glenn.]

No he did not ,she turned it into a massive argument. She's a depressing rain cloud of negativity . And when Khaled is saved on Friday,she will plot and change her pathetic strategy again.

She didn’t

[GoldHeart]

She didn’t

:umm2:

[Glenn.]

He tried a gotcha and got schooled AGAIN

[Garfie]

He didn't ruin jack all , she refused to call a truce . Her words were " let's not talk anymore as we don't like eachother and you keep watching the camera's trying to look look " .

Oh and she accused him of " point scoring " ,when all he wanted was her to understand how difficult HOH decision making was for him, after all she tried pulling him up on not having " empathy" . Yet here she was coldly refusing to take on board what he was saying.

You'll have to excuse me though Dagger,as I'm a day behind...and the bliddy ITVX won't let me watch Tuesday's episode :fist: .

Hope you’ve accessed the episode, as it was definitely one not to miss.

I agree with your perception of events, as I feel that Ali has unintentionally misjudged Khaled and is, as a consequence, misinterpreting and misrepresenting everything he now says and does.

Her perception of Khaled is not what I see, and it seems to me that, no matter what he says or does now, he just cannot win. I can’t imagine how he must be feeling at the moment, as the way Ali shuts down any discussions on the matter, he is left with no means of addressing what seems to me are unfair and unjust accusations. It feels a little bit like character assassination, even though I do not think that this is Ali’s intention. It’s just sad all round really.

[Swan]

Hope you’ve accessed the episode, as it was definitely one not to miss.

I agree with your perception of events, as I feel that Ali has unintentionally misjudged Khaled and is, as a consequence, misinterpreting and misrepresenting everything he now says and does.

Her perception of Khaled is not what I see, and it seems to me that, no matter what he says or does now, he just cannot win. I can’t imagine how he must be feeling at the moment, as the way Ali shuts down any discussions on the matter, he is left with no means of addressing what seems to me are unfair and unjust accusations. It feels a little bit like character assassination, even though I do not think that this is Ali’s intention. It’s just sad all round really.

She's completely ruining his experience in the house. It's incredibly selfish. She's such a self obsessed, nasty, vindictive person. Can't really believe how so many are falling for it.

[Glenn.]

Love it when a woman triggers men like this. So satisfying

[Swan]

Love it when a woman triggers men like this. So satisfying

What about all the women who don't like Ali? Sexiest, much?!

[Garfie]

If Khaled gets cheers on Friday night (and avoids eviction), Sunday's HL show will see Ali asking for a "clean slate" with him, and that things got "out of hand, the house is a pressure cooker" and that she "may have judged him wrongly" etc etc..

If that happens on Friday, it will be interesting to see the outcome. If Ali believes her perceptions are correct - winch I believe she does - then she might just question why the audience can’t see him for what, in her mind, he is.

However, there seem to be a lot of Ali fans so the fact he has been portrayed as her arch-nemesis, means he might well get boos even if he does stay.

Your prediction has certainly made me think though, and if this is the case, I might well have to reassess my interpretation of Ali’s motives. I shall e watching with interest.

[Glenn.]

What about all the women who don't like Ali? Sexiest, much?!

You didn’t read my post. I love it when “men” are triggered by women.

You need to stop with the weak ass gotchas

[Swan]

You didn’t read my post. I love it when “men” are triggered by women.

You need to stop with the weak ass gotchas

Oh, you only single out "men", ok, weird, but you do you i guess.

[Glenn.]

Oh, you only single out "men", ok, weird, but you do you i guess.

Yay! You CAN read

[Swan]

Yay! You CAN read

Don't be facetious Glenn

[Garfie]

She's completely ruining his experience in the house. It's incredibly selfish. She's such a self obsessed, nasty, vindictive person. Can't really believe how so many are falling for it.

I do agree that poor Khaled’s experience in the house, must be feeling heavy and intense, and I feel a lot of the fun must have been eliminated for him. I can only imagine how awkward and uncomfortable that closed-off environment must be for him, as there is no way of escape - there is no respite for him.

I agree with you about how Ali is coming across, but I’m keeping in mind the fact that she has Autistic traits, which would suggest that her perception, motives and behaviours are being led by a misinterpretation of Khaled, rather than by vindictiveness.

I certainly don’t like the impact of her behaviour on Khaled but I do, at this moment in time, think her actions are due to her inability to read social cues, which is a prevalent trait in those on the Spectrum. Until I have seen enough evidence, I’m choosing to withhold judgement, as by not doing so, I’d feel as if I was guilty of the same behaviour I’m uncomfortable seeing in her.

It will all unfold with the passage of time……..

[Abra]

Love it when a woman triggers men like this. So satisfying

I really don't understand why this storyline with Ali is being turned into a gender thing. It's so patronising to women when they are constantly just reduced to their gender any time a debate is happening. Come on now.

[ThomasC]

She's completely ruining his experience in the house. It's incredibly selfish. She's such a self obsessed, nasty, vindictive person. Can't really believe how so many are falling for it.

Is she because he was clapping and smiling yesterday?there 14 other people in that house don't be so dramatic

[Adamw92]

Is she because he was clapping and smiling yesterday?there 14 other people in that house don't be so dramatic

It’s okay, he can just pretend he’s happy if he’s that miserable. He’s very good at faking who he is… can’t be that hard to fake how he’s feeling.

[ThomasC]

It’s okay, he can just pretend he’s happy if he’s that miserable. He’s very good at faking who he is… can’t be that hard to fake how he’s feeling.

He was revelling in the whole thing yesterday, absolutely loved the drama. All 3 of them did. So smug

[Swan]

I do agree that poor Khaled’s experience in the house, must be feeling heavy and intense, and I feel a lot of the fun must have been eliminated for him. I can only imagine how awkward and uncomfortable that closed-off environment must be for him, as there is no way of escape - there is no respite for him.

I agree with you about how Ali is coming across, but I’m keeping in mind the fact that she has Autistic traits, which would suggest that her perception, motives and behaviours are being led by a misinterpretation of Khaled, rather than by vindictiveness.

I certainly don’t like the impact of her behaviour on Khaled but I do, at this moment in time, think her actions are due to her inability to read social cues, which is a prevalent trait in those on the Spectrum. Until I have seen enough evidence, I’m choosing to withhold judgement, as by not doing so, I’d feel as if I was guilty of the same behaviour I’m uncomfortable seeing in her.

It will all unfold with the passage of time……..

I do agree with most of what you say, but she's a professional psychologist she isnt and cant be that hampered by autism. She is gunning for that poor guy, a psychologist, who made it her profession to understand others differences.

Sorry, i can't sympathise. She's out for Khaled, it's all so wrong.

[Adamw92]

He was revelling in the whole thing yesterday, absolutely loved the drama. All 3 of them did. So smug

Absolutely. The 3 of them acting like school children but they’re supposedly “standing on business” or whatever, couldn’t even look her in the eye and then Segun backtracked faster than the speed of light.

[GoldHeart]

Love it when a woman triggers men like this. So satisfying

Why must you turn it into battle of the sexes?, I guess Ali is rubbing off on you :bored: . Ali is the one who's triggered by certain housemates, especially Khaled...who only has to breathe and she has a meltdown.

[GoldHeart]

Hope you’ve accessed the episode, as it was definitely one not to miss.

I agree with your perception of events, as I feel that Ali has unintentionally misjudged Khaled and is, as a consequence, misinterpreting and misrepresenting everything he now says and does.

Her perception of Khaled is not what I see, and it seems to me that, no matter what he says or does now, he just cannot win. I can’t imagine how he must be feeling at the moment, as the way Ali shuts down any discussions on the matter, he is left with no means of addressing what seems to me are unfair and unjust accusations. It feels a little bit like character assassination, even though I do not think that this is Ali’s intention. It’s just sad all round really.

I'll have to try to access it much later on, when I have time . It sounds like alot has happened.

Whether it's unintentionally ...I have my doubts. Her irrational dislike of Khaled is just too bizarre and unhealthy. Maybe there's an air of paranoia , and I think it is driving her mad that Khaled is so calm and considerate, she seems to want to just see bad in people.

It honestly must be miserable being inside her mind :bored: .

[Garfie]

I'll have to try to access it much later on, when I have time . It sounds like alot has happened.

Whether it's unintentionally ...I have my doubts. Her irrational dislike of Khaled is just too bizarre and unhealthy. Maybe there's an air of paranoia , and I think it is driving her mad that Khaled is so calm and considerate, she seems to want to just see bad in people.

It honestly must be miserable being inside her mind :bored: .

I get your doubts but I also have a lot of experience of Autism so I get that too. I’m not saying one perception is correct over the other, just that my views are naturally formed with this in mind.

Definitely keep trying to access last night’s programme as it was probably the most eventful of the series so far, and I just know you will want to see it. I’ll say no more than that!

[GoldHeart]

I get your doubts but I also have a lot of experience of Autism so I get that too. I’m not saying one perception is correct over the other, just that my views are naturally formed with this in mind.

Definitely keep trying to access last night’s programme as it was probably the most eventful of the series so far, and I just know you will want to see it. I’ll say no more than that!

Garfie it's still not available on itvX :bawling: , I'll have to see if it's on the archive BB site ....that one usually comes through :fc: , albeit sometimes gets glitchy. Hopefully that episode isn't banned on there as well.

[Garfie]

Garfie it's still not available on itvX :bawling: , I'll have to see if it's on the archive BB site ....that one usually comes through :fc: , albeit sometimes gets glitchy. Hopefully that episode isn't banned on there as well.

No! Someone you know must have recorded it!? You can’t miss it, GoldHeart!

[Garfie]

Garfie it's still not available on itvX :bawling: , I'll have to see if it's on the archive BB site ....that one usually comes through :fc: , albeit sometimes gets glitchy. Hopefully that episode isn't banned on there as well.

GoldHeart - I’ve found it! Just go to ITV Catch Up on your TV menu, and it’s available there. :cheer2:

[GoldHeart]

GoldHeart - I’ve found it! Just go to ITV Catch Up on your TV menu, and it’s available there. :cheer2:

Thanks Garfie :) , I'm going to have to catch-up on last night's and tonight's before I go to bed :wavey: .

[Garfie]

Thanks Garfie :) , I'm going to have to catch-up on last night's and tonight's before I go to bed :wavey: .

Go for it! It’s well worth it, and you’ll be glad you did! :thumbs:

[Mystic Mock]

How did he?

He did try to point score about the Save & Replace and Killer Nomination options tbh.

[GlitterUK]

Could get Get the witch out chants who knows, more people have their eyes wide open now. She is set a target on him from the start.

Sadly they have been peddling Ali from the get go. She will no doubt get cheers or mixed reception and poor Khaled who is the only victim here will get boo's.

[Mystic Mock]

Such a humourless woman

Ali and Khaled were made for each other, if you could just turn Khaled into a woman.:joker:

And add Hanah to make the threesome.

[Mystic Mock]

You didn’t read my post. I love it when “men” are triggered by women.

You need to stop with the weak ass gotchas

Tbf, men are allowed to have an issue with Ali's behaviour.

She hasn't entirely been rational towards Khaled if we're being honest.

[GoldHeart]

Could get Get the witch out chants who knows, more people have their eyes wide open now. She is set a target on him from the start.

Sadly they have been peddling Ali from the get go. She will no doubt get cheers or mixed reception and poor Khaled who is the only victim here will get boo's.

Be interesting to hear the reaction of the crowds, can you imagine if we actually hear " Get Ali out " chants, the L& L audience are finally seeing Ali's true colours which is good.