Emma's Game plan

[GoldHeart]

If I have it wrong then I have it wrong,but I'm sorry but what planet is Emma on with this ridiculous crackpot theory of ' Khaled fancying Ali' , erm since when ?? :conf: :facepalm: .

I think Emma likes to stir the pot , this can't be a way to have a clean slate/ call a truce between them .....when she's basically sabotaged Khaled. She is giving Ali more ammunition to attack him ,as now he's seen as some
' bitter toxic male who feels rejected', like seriously talk
about pulling stuff from thin air with zero evidence
:crazy:.


Ali is delusional, and she cannot see beyond the Ali universe. She thinks the only way a guy dislikes her is because he must secretly fancy her ,or be some 'awful
misogynistic ' . Because it can't possibly be Ali's calculated behaviour or her horrible attitude, no no...it has to be because it's unreciprocated romance , due to her sexual orientation. Wow the reaching .

But this is the same Emma who claims she passionately
kissed Mick Hucknall from Simply Red , which I think is
another fantasy story she made up. She's honestly made things worse now.

[Niamh.]

Why would that be part of her game plan? How would it benefit her at all? We haven't even seen her saying that to Ali anyway

[GoldHeart]

Why would that be part of her game plan? How would it benefit her at all? We haven't even seen her saying that to Ali anyway

She said it in a L& L exclusive, we'll probably see it again in tonight's HL in more detail . And Ali was running with it.... like it was some light bulb moment of " ohhh so that's why Khaled was distant with me as he found out i was a lesbian and couldn't get with me".

The false narrative is being set for Khaled. Ali is twisting it around as if it was Khaled who had a problem with her from the start ,when she's the one who started the whole " fake " accusation. Hence why Khaled felt uncomfortable around her , it has nothing to do with romance . It's as if some EastEnders script has been thrown into the mix.

[Niamh.]

She said it in a L& L exclusive, we'll probably see it again in tonight's HL in more detail . And Ali was running with it.... like it was some light bulb moment of " ohhh so that's why Khaled was distant with me as he found out i was a lesbian and couldn't get with me".

The false narrative is being set for Khaled. Ali is twisting it around as if it was Khaled who had a problem with her from the start ,when she's the one who started the whole " fake " accusation. Hence why Khaled felt uncomfortable around her , it has nothing to do with romance . It's as if some EastEnders script has been thrown into the mix.

They showed Emma saying it to Ali? Again though if there's a false narrative being set then it's by Ali, how do we know that Khaled didn't say that to Emma?

[GoldHeart]

They showed Emma saying it to Ali? Again though if there's a false narrative being set then it's by Ali, how do we know that Khaled didn't say that to Emma?

Didn't you see last night's L & L ? , Will showed a exclusive clip of Emma talking to Ali.

I don't believe Khaled said it ,plus it's not fair anyway to mention something from the launch night, before any of the housemates actually spoke or got to know eachother fully .

It's quite possible Khaled found some of the girls attractive ....he's a young straight guy after all :shrug:,but It is being blown up into something crazy. And it's very damaging and misleading. Ali is using this as a weapon now .

Imagine if a rumour went around the house that Ali secretly fancied one of the boys, she'd be outraged . On L& L that Harriet guest was already getting protective of Ali's situation...and saying we must " respect her" . Which I find a bit rich when Ali shows a lack of respect or understanding for others, and she will now play on the fact Khaled must ' fancy' her , whilst as usual taking zero responsibility for her actions.

[Niamh.]

Didn't you see last night's L & L ? , Will showed a exclusive clip of Emma talking to Ali.

I don't believe Khaled said it ,plus it's not fair anyway to mention something from the launch night, before any of the housemates actually spoke or got to know eachother fully .

It's quite possible Khaled found some of the girls attractive ....he's a young straight guy after all :shrug:,but It is being blown up into something crazy. And it's very damaging and misleading. Ali is using this as a weapon now .

Imagine if a rumour went around the house that Ali secretly fancied one of the boys, she'd be outraged . On L& L that Harriet guest was already getting protective of Ali's situation...and saying we just " respect her" . Which I find a bit rich when Ali shows a lack of respect or understanding for others, and she will now play on the fact Khaled must ' fancy' , whilst as usual taking zero responsibility for her actions.

No I didn't see that, I only saw Ali telling Dean

[Ammi]

…I saw the clip of Emma saying it to Ali but it still didn’t really show context because the vein of the conversation/chat leading up to it wasn’t shown…I’d still like to see the fuller context…but Ali did seem taken by surprise with the remark/reveal…I don’t know why Emma told her but I don’t get the feeling that Emma is stirring anything, I haven’t seen that in any of her behaviour before…I mean, I know we only see the HL but it’s not something that’s been shown about her…

[Niamh.]

…I saw the clip of Emma saying it to Ali but it still didn’t really show context because the vein of the conversation/chat leading up to it wasn’t shown…I’d still like to see the fuller context…but Ali did seem taken by surprise with the remark/reveal…I don’t know why Emma told her but I don’t get the feeling that Emma is stirring anything, I haven’t seen that in any of her behaviour before…I mean, I know we only see the HL but it’s not something that’s been shown about her…

Did she say that he actually fancied her or just that he said he liked her? I would think it's more likely she said it in the hope it might soften Ali's attitude to him, not how it seems Ali took it

[arista]

I think she is staying back

[Ammi]

Did she say that he actually fancied her or just that he said he liked her? I would think it's more likely she said it in the hope it might soften Ali's attitude to him, not how it seems Ali took it

…( I think…)…that she did say that he’d had a crush on her …she was smiling when she said it as if something jokey and light had been said just prior, which is why it would be good to see more…


…I’m trying to work out how/where I could find the clip for you…

[GoldHeart]

…I saw the clip of Emma saying it to Ali but it still didn’t really show context because the vein of the conversation/chat leading up to it wasn’t shown…I’d still like to see the fuller context…but Ali did seem taken by surprise with the remark/reveal…I don’t know why Emma told her but I don’t get the feeling that Emma is stirring anything, I haven’t seen that in any of her behaviour before…I mean, I know we only see the HL but it’s not something that’s been shown about her…


I just don't understand her motives for telling Ali this , what did she think it would achieve? . All it's done is make Ali feel more superior & justified in her unhealthy behaviour towards Khaled , Ali will not admit to being wrong, she thinks this is all Khaled's doing, he's the ' bad irrational guy ' , and she's the ' helpless victim' , in her delulu head . Despite the fact she caused tension &
arguements with him in the first place.

[Liam-]

Yet Ali is still to blame to Emma stirring and putting things in her head, it’s a shame the clip wasn’t In the highlight show, but not surprising seeing as it’s obvious what narrative is being pushed by the producers

[Ammi]

Did she say that he actually fancied her or just that he said he liked her? I would think it's more likely she said it in the hope it might soften Ali's attitude to him, not how it seems Ali took it

…I think it was ‘had a crush’ rather than fancied…

[Ammi]

I just don't understand her motives for telling Ali this , what did she think it would achieve? . All it's done is make Ali feel more superior & justified in her unhealthy behaviour towards Khaled , Ali will not admit to being wrong, she thinks this is all Khaled's doing, he's the ' bad irrational guy ' , and she's the ' helpless victim' , in her delulu head . Despite the fact she caused tension &
arguements with him in the first place.

…ughhhhh, I hate it when we don’t see full context…

[GoldHeart]

…ughhhhh, I hate it when we don’t see full context…

Hopefully we see it tonight in it's entirety :suspect:, and yeah Emma said the word " crush", but Ali ran with it like a leaky tap.

[Niamh.]

Yet Ali is still to blame to Emma stirring and putting things in her head, it’s a shame the clip wasn’t In the highlight show, but not surprising seeing as it’s obvious what narrative is being pushed by the producers

Not sure how that would be considered stirring though, that's a nice thing to hear surely?

[vesavius]

…I think it was ‘had a crush’ rather than fancied…

Yeah, it was. But i think they are using the term 'crush' rather loosely here :laugh:

I think it's entirely possible that Khaled was more interested in Ali when he didn't know her and assumed she was straight and potentially available.

But him losing interest when he knew the score had nothing to do with anything that followed, which was 100% Ali attacking him.

I have to say tho, I do like Emma. She reminds me of good time 90s girls like I knew back in the day when I managed nightclubs. Her little story about Hucknell was, tbh, believable and funny.

[Niamh.]

Yeah, it was. But i think they are using the term 'crush' rather loosely here :laugh:

I think it's entirely possible that Khaled was more interested in Ali when he didn't know her and assumed she was straight and potentially available.

But him losing interest when he knew the score had nothing to do with anything that followed, which was 100% Ali attacking him.

I have to say tho, I do like Emma. She reminds me of good time 90s girls like I knew back in the day when I managed nightclubs. Her little story about Hucknell was, tbh, believable and funny.

Yeah, not sure why people would think she was lying, she was a page three girl back then after all and he's not exactly Brad Pitt :laugh:

[Liam-]

Not sure how that would be considered stirring though, that's a nice thing to hear surely?

When everybody knows they don’t get on and that there’s unresolved tension there? No, he’s not stupid

[Ammi]

I just don't understand her motives for telling Ali this , what did she think it would achieve? . All it's done is make Ali feel more superior & justified in her unhealthy behaviour towards Khaled , Ali will not admit to being wrong, she thinks this is all Khaled's doing, he's the ' bad irrational guy ' , and she's the ' helpless victim' , in her delulu head . Despite the fact she caused tension &
arguements with him in the first place.

…I guess that I could imagine that if they were having a conversation about ‘red witch-gate’…and how Ali is being perceived in the house…?…Emma could have thrown it out there in a way of trying to lighten it or even encourage some more neutral/positive ground between them/what I mean is, by a way of saying to Ali, no the guys don’t think you’re a witch/want to burn you…Khaled even said that he had a crush on you when we first came in…I can imagine a context of it being said by Emma that was just trying to lighten something and encourage less of a negative vibe in Ali…?…

[vesavius]

Yeah, not sure why people would think she was lying, she was a page three girl back then after all and he's not exactly Brad Pitt :laugh:

"It was 'orrible!" :laugh::laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Not sure how that would be considered stirring though, that's a nice thing to hear surely?

No it's not nice when she has a major issue with Khaled ,and now she can paint him as some ' bitter love sick loser' who is upset he can't date her . The seeds are being sown .

[Niamh.]

When everybody knows they don’t get on and that there’s unresolved tension there? No, he’s not stupid

I would have thought that Emma was telling her to try and soften her view of him :shrug:

[Niamh.]

"It was 'orrible!" :laugh::laugh:

I can imagine it was :laugh:

No it's not nice when she has a major issue with Khaled ,and now she can paint him as some ' bitter love sick loser' who is upset he can't date her . The seeds are being sown .

I doubt that Emma thought that deeply about it tbh

[Ammi]

Yeah, it was. But i think they are using the term 'crush' rather loosely here :laugh:

I think it's entirely possible that Khaled was more interested in Ali when he didn't know her and assumed she was straight and potentially available.

But him losing interest when he knew the score had nothing to do with anything that followed, which was 100% Ali attacking him.

I have to say tho, I do like Emma. She reminds me of good time 90s girls like I knew back in the day when I managed nightclubs. Her little story about Hucknell was, tbh, believable and funny.

…I think that people can say things like…oh, they’re so nice/so beautiful or whatever, I think that I might have a crush on them…in a complimentary way but not mean it as a literal also, you know…

[vesavius]

No it's not nice when she has a major issue with Khaled ,and now she can paint him as some ' bitter love sick loser' who is upset he can't date her . The seeds are being sown .

I hope that they are... Feed Ali and her ego until she pops.

She shrinks back into victim mode when she is on the back foot, which way too many still fall for, but she makes mistakes when she is overconfident and thinks she is in control.

[vesavius]

…I think that people can say things like…oh, they’re so nice/so beautiful or whatever, I think that I might have a crush on them…in a complimentary way but not mean it as a literal also, you know…

yeah :)

[Ammi]

Yeah, not sure why people would think she was lying, she was a page three girl back then after all and he's not exactly Brad Pitt :laugh:

"It was 'orrible!" :laugh::laugh:

….that house and redheads….lets burn another one…

[Niamh.]

….that house and redheads….lets burn another one…

:hehe:

[vesavius]

I would have thought that Emma was telling her to try and soften her view of him :shrug:

I think that's actually likely... Emma has said already that is she was forced to pick a side she would choose the lads.

[vesavius]

….that house and redheads….lets burn another one…

:laugh::laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Yeah, not sure why people would think she was lying, she was a page three girl back then after all and he's not exactly Brad Pitt :laugh:

Looks have nothing to do with it ....Mick Hucknall was big back in the day with simply red , and people were clout chasing for their own gain.

Martine Mccutcheon told a huge lie about dating Mick
Hucknall ..... All for for attention. He came out and
denied any of it even happened, and he has told Mccutcheon to stop using his name for fame .

She said she vomited in his dreads and everything , and
he said he never had dreadlocks when they met :laugh:.

Turns out she was drunk and actually was sick over his car , and they were never romantic & he made sure she got home safely :skull: . Some people will say anything just for giggles & to be known as some funny anecdote.

[Ammi]

…I do think…(…the way I’m reading it and it is from something out of context so I could be wrong…)…that Ali is very upset about the whole red witch thing and that Hanah for instance wasn’t talking to her and might feel a general coolness from the house…(…whatever anyone feels about what’s all led to red witch-gate…)…and that Emma was trying to lighten it maybe and make her feel better and saying that she isn’t thought of as being a witch…I mean, obviously I’m making all of that up but I haven’t ever got the vibe of Emma being a stirrer in any way…she doesn’t only not get involved in confrontations, she takes a step back from all of the dramas from what I can see…

[Niamh.]

Looks have nothing to do with it ....Mick Hucknall was big back in the day with simply red , and people were clout chasing for their own gain.



Martine Mccutcheon told a huge lie about dating Mick

Hucknall ..... All for for attention. He came out and

denied any of it even happened, and he has told Mccutcheon to stop using his name for fame .



She said she vomited in his dreads and everything , and

he said he never had dreadlocks when they met [emoji23].



Turns out she was drunk and actually was sick over his car , and they were never romantic & he made sure she got home safely :skull: . Some people will say anything just for giggles & to be known as some funny anecdote.He says he slept with over 1000 women back in the day

[vesavius]

Looks have nothing to do with it ....Mick Hucknall was big back in the day with simply red , and people were clout chasing for their own gain.

Martine Mccutcheon told a huge lie about dating Mick
Hucknall ..... All for for attention. He came out and
denied any of it even happened, and he has told Mccutcheon to stop using his name for fame .

She said she vomited in his dreads and everything , and
he said he never had dreadlocks when they met :laugh:.

Turns out she was drunk and actually was sick over his car , and they were never romantic & he made sure she got home safely :skull: . Some people will say anything just for giggles & to be known as some funny anecdote.

I have never heard this before :laugh:

[Ammi]

v83x-xc-xco

[Ammi]

…so the big question, did you hear from him again…’…?



…from what GoldHeart has said…that would be a restraining order second date, then…?…

[rusticgal]

I think Khalid may have called out Ali as being attractive because Emma is a bit "do you fancy anyone..." vibe. I don't think she is stirring in anyway. I can imagine she could slightly exaggerate a story to make it a little more interesting too...but its harmless and I do like her.
I think she is handling Ali perfectly....I dont think Emma likes her one little bit but unless Ali comes for her I think she will keep peace the best she can.

[Ammi]

…obviously not Martine’s perfect moment….

[GoldHeart]

I have never heard this before :laugh:

She's told that same story at least twice now , on LW & on Keith lemon's through the keyhole :rolleyes: lol .

[Ammi]

She's told that same story at least twice now , on LW & on Keith lemon's through the keyhole :rolleyes: lol .

…on the LW vid above, Martine said that she’s ‘dined out on that story for many years…’…:laugh:..

[GoldHeart]

He says he slept with over 1000 women back in the day

It's not really the same thing though is it ,when actual name's are being dropped and full jackanory tales are being told :joker:.

Mccucheon has told that same daft story twice now that I know of ,you can tell she thinks it makes her quirky and funny. But Mick Hucknall has no say in it ,and she dragged him into her little fantasy. I've seen the picture of when they met ....his hair was curly without a dreadlock in sight .


Emma might have met Mick Hucknall ,but I think she's exaggerating the story...so that the event sounds more exciting than it probably was :shrug: .

[GoldHeart]

…on the LW vid above, Martine said that she’s ‘dined out on that story for many years…’…:laugh:..

He actually said in Social media ,that they hadn't spoken for years. So it doesn't even sound like they're friends :laugh: .

[vesavius]

Emma might have met Mick Hucknall ,but I think she's exaggerating the story...so that the event sounds more exciting than it probably was :shrug: .

Maybe, maybe not... Just because one person lied about getting in on with Mick it doesn't mean another is I guess.

But, we only have her word on it ofc.

As a page 3 girl she def would have been invited to celeb parties etc. Plus, she hasn't shown any pattern of lying so far. We shall see.

[GoldHeart]

Maybe, maybe not... Just because one person lied about getting in on with Mick it doesn't mean another is I guess.

But, we only have her word on it ofc.

As a page 3 girl she def would have been invited to celeb parties etc. Plus, she hasn't shown any pattern of lying so far. We shall see.

I'd love it if Mick Hucknall commented on this :joker:, be funny if he's like " erm who is that ".

[Niamh.]

I'd love it if Mick Hucknall commented on this :joker:, be funny if he's like " erm who is that ".

He may not remember snogging some girl on a night out 25 years ago anyway so I doubt it's even possible to confirm or deny

[vesavius]

I'd love it if Mick Hucknall commented on this :joker:, be funny if he's like " erm who is that ".

:joker::joker::joker:

[GlitterUK]

I like Emma she is a great housemate, says it how it is most of the time and not scared to stand up when she needs to.

[GoldHeart]

I like Emma she is a great housemate, says it how it is most of the time and not scared to stand up when she needs to.

Even when she's asking cold sore Nathan about the size of his sausage? and the follow up comment to BP taking it :yuk: , why did any of us need to hear that. And people say Marcello has a filthy mind :whistle: