Rapidly gone off Hanah/More aggression shown tonight.

[Kate!]

Never have I ever had a housemate plummet so fast and hard in my estimation. Can she redeem herself? I doubt it.

Well aware this won't be a popular opinion. :idc:

She's sullen, miserable, not an ounce of joy in her. She comes across as very entitled.

She'd be one of the worst and most undeserving finalists ever if she gets that far. And a very disappointing winner God forbid! Such a shame she was saved and replaced.

Waste of a housemate.

[Billy]

Hope Hanah wins to be honest. I love how passionate she is for her friends and also that if she has problems with someone she will normally speak to them about it (not Ali, as BB didn’t really give her the chance) - for example the way she has supported Lily without patronising her.

Plus, she sees right through Ali and that is only a positive in my book

[GoldHeart]

Hope Hanah wins to be honest. I love how passionate she is for her friends and also that if she has problems with someone she will normally speak to them about it (not Ali, as BB didn’t really give her the chance) - for example the way she has supported Lily without patronising her.

Plus, she sees right through Ali and that is only a positive in my book

:clap1:

[ThomasC]

Agreed Kate.

[Kate!]

Agreed Kate.

Hallelujah

[Adamw92]

I wouldn’t go as far as to say she’s a waste of a housemate because I’ve found her to be quite funny at times but she’s definitely not amongst my faves for the way she’s been going on for the last week.

[rusticgal]

I like her...I think she has come right out of her shell and she does not care who she offends. Feisty.

[Kate!]

She's as miserable as sin. Not the girl we saw go into the house on launch night. She's permanently got a face like a smacked arse, gives nothing in the tasks. Her expressions scream can't be arsed.

Very disappointed. Zero entertainment value and her attitude is that she doesn't seem to want to be there, even worse than Izaaz.

Yawnsville.

[Nicky91]

welcome to the ignore list then

[Benjamin]

Love her so far. She’s been great to watch.

[Kate!]

welcome to the ignore list then, for this racism :idc:

I'll ask you politely to delete that before I report it Nicky. It's got nothing to do with her colour. Ffs.

Not allowed to dislike people these days without the race card being played. Insulting and ridiculous.

[Vanessa]

I like her better than Ali, who annoys me.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She doesnt celebrate Christmas or Easter and has very different views about women and men than British culture..

[Kate!]

She doesnt celebrate Christmas or Easter and has very different views about women and men than British culture..

What are her views please? Interested.

[Ammi]

Love her so far. She’s been great to watch.

…I’m just right now listening to the live feed audio that Baz posted in his thread and Hanah and Sarah are having a nice chat…

[Crimson Dynamo]

What are her views please? Interested.

Too much going around with a face like a smacked ar$e and pretending she is a Moll from Peaky Blinders

[Cherie]

Love her and that she stands up to Bratty Lily, she has been nice to her and tried to help here get herself sorted, clothes on the floor etc but its obviously not been appreciated and Hanah is perfectly entitled to nominate Segun as a winner without whiny Lily butting in for airtime

[rusticgal]

She's as miserable as sin. Not the girl we saw go into the house on launch night. She's permanently got a face like a smacked arse, gives nothing in the tasks. Her expressions scream can't be arsed.

Very disappointed. Zero entertainment value and her attitude is that she doesn't seem to want to be there, even worse than Izaaz.

Yawnsville.


You must be missing something because she has always given her all in the tasks...

[romeofahey]

I'd be miserable too dealing with Ali and Lily icl

[Kate!]

You must be missing something because she has always given her all in the tasks...

Really? Must have blinked and missed it? All I've seen is a deadpan face and just standing there doing nothing.

[BigAsher]

I don't think there's many likeable people in there, besides Sarah and Baked Potato (pre Nathan).

[Beso]

Imagine thinking all that about hanah..omg, could anyone ever be more wrong with a hm analysis.

[rusticgal]

Imagine thinking all that about hanah..omg, could anyone ever be more wrong with a hm analysis.


I mean she does have a dead pan face sometimes…but she has put her all into challenges as a team player. :shrug:

[Kate!]

Imagine thinking all that about hanah..omg, could anyone ever be more wrong with a hm analysis.

There's no right and wrong? It's not facts it's just opinions. I have mine, you have yours.

You can't negate my opinion? Same as I wouldn't negate yours.

I don't like her. Pure and simple. Nothing wrong there.

[jem-jem]

She doesnt celebrate Christmas or Easter and has very different views about women and men than British culture..

What does that got to do with anything?

[jem-jem]

Too much going around with a face like a smacked ar$e and pretending she is a Moll from Peaky Blinders

So does Ali.

[GoldHeart]

So does Ali.

Exactly

Ali's facial expressions are like she's been sucking lemons all day.

[rusticgal]

Love her and that she stands up to Bratty Lily, she has been nice to her and tried to help here get herself sorted, clothes on the floor etc but its obviously not been appreciated and Hanah is perfectly entitled to nominate Segun as a winner without whiny Lily butting in for airtime


Exactly….and Lily has just ignored her. Imagine living amongst that shit…I might have a miserable face too…

[smudgie]

Gone off her as well.
Hanasty is her nickname for me now.
Comes across far too full of herself, didn’t like the way she spoke to Thomas in the garden last week but thought it was just a blip..nah, she is off the radar for me now as a winner.

[Cherie]

Gone off her as well.
Hanasty is her nickname for me now.
Comes across far too full of herself, didn’t like the way she spoke to Thomas in the garden last week but thought it was just a blip..nah, she is off the radar for me now as a winner.

Cant recall what did she say to Thomas?

[GoldHeart]

Cant recall what did she say to Thomas?

It was in the prime minister task , basically Thomas and Sarah ...but mainly Thomas was thinking about chucking mud at Nathan. When he was the supervisor for the cow milking task :shrug:.

I think Hanah thought it would be a rule break if they threw mud ,and she said she didn't want Nathan in a bad mood or something. Thomas told her to 'shut up '...hence the argument that escalated between them.

At the time I wish Hanah let Thomas throw the mud @ Nathan if I'm honest ,as Nathan was so smug in that task.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What does that got to do with anything?

why do you ask?

[Ray.]

Nah I think Hanah's great tbh. She's a great classic-seeming HM in the sense that, of all the BB21 housemates, she's the one I can most easily picture in the C4 era. She'd fit right into all of that chaos. It's ironic when you consider how she spews some of that so distinctly 2020s DEI style of thinking, but I won't hold it against her as an actual housemate. :laugh: Besides, she seems to at least apply it in an actually fair and balanced manner towards the male HMs, which is unusual in people who subscribe to that set of beliefs. I just wonder how long until she comes to a crossroads where it conflicts with her religious beliefs. Let's face it, the main reason she's so polarising on the board right now is because she's so clearly opposed to Ali, who, for reasons that I don't understand, is thought of very highly by a few vocal members of this forum. If she weren't opposed to Ali, she'd be a darling of all those who love to make a show of championing the strong black woman variety of HM.

[AnnieK]

I like Hanah....

[Maru]

I can see where she comes off as entitled, because her way of speaking certainly gives that impression. I don't know if that's really her though. "I speak from my chest", etc... but she's putting more effort into BB, so that's something. I like her in the game atm, but long term, I feel like more of those traits will come out and fall under a negative light and that could do her in with the viewer. Lily's screaming and hollering over people won't win her the game... the same is true for Hanah. We'll see if her "friends" help her or not should she go too far and pull her up on some of her combativeness... but it may not matter if she isn't the listening type.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She thinks women should be servile to men

surely no Tibb woman is ok with that??

:umm2:

[Barry.]

So far I’m liking Hanah, she hasn’t, yet, come across bad just now

[Cherie]

She thinks women should be servile to men

surely no Tibb woman is ok with that??

:umm2:

No but I wont be adopting that view any more than her accent :laugh:

[Cherie]

It was in the prime minister task , basically Thomas and Sarah ...but mainly Thomas was thinking about chucking mud at Nathan. When he was the supervisor for the cow milking task :shrug:.

I think Hanah thought it would be a rule break if they threw mud ,and she said she didn't want Nathan in a bad mood or something. Thomas told her to 'shut up '...hence the argument that escalated between them.

At the time I wish Hanah let Thomas throw the mud @ Nathan if I'm honest ,as Nathan was so smug in that task.

ah right remember it now, nah that wouldnt turn me off her, they were starving and needed a win

[GoldHeart]

No but I wont be adopting that view any more than her accent :laugh:

Cherie she has traditional views based on her religion & culture ,if LT bothered to actually listen fully to the conversation...which Segun was also apart of , he'd realise they both believe in marriage lasting and they are both saving themselves .

LT also failed to point out Hanah said the man actually provides for the woman in her culture,and makes sure she's looked after. It isn't all about the woman ' obeying ' but yes that is part of it . The man also has to prove himself worthy aswell .

Both Segun & Hanah hold similar views ,and have important values when it comes to love .

[GoldHeart]

ah right remember it now, nah that wouldnt turn me off her, they were starving and needed a win

That's how I see it now on reflection , plus people are leaving out the fact Thomas told her to "shut up", which was kind of rude :nono:.

I still wish Nathan got mud thrown at him though lol .

[Cherie]

That's how I see it now on reflection , plus people are leaving out the fact Thomas told her to "shut up", which was kind of rude :nono:.

I still wish Nathan got mud thrown at him though lol .

Me too :laugh:

[Beso]

Cherie she has traditional views based on her religion & culture ,if LT bothered to actually listen fully to the conversation...which Segun was also apart of , he'd realise they both believe in marriage lasting and they are both saving themselves .

LT also failed to point out Hanah said the man actually provides for the woman in her culture,and makes sure she's looked after. It isn't all about the woman ' obeying ' but yes that is part of it . The man also has to prove himself worthy aswell .

Both Segun & Hanah hold similar views ,and have important values when it comes to love .




And there is absolutely nothing wrong in it.

What a wonderful read this thread has been.

[GoldHeart]

Me too :laugh:

Well we have BP egging him ,even though I don't approve of wasting food :shrug: :laugh: .

[Beso]

Nathan is the foundation of the house. The only one I would truly miss.

[ebandit]

..................i like hanah...............of course she's not perfect from time to time she can be arrogant or mean but you know
exactly where you are with her....................

Mark L

[smudgie]

She thinks women should be servile to men

surely no Tibb woman is ok with that??

:umm2:

Not a ruddy chance.:fist:

[Mystic Mock]

Never have I ever had a housemate plummet so fast and hard in my estimation. Can she redeem herself? I doubt it.

Well aware this won't be a popular opinion. :idc:

She's sullen, miserable, not an ounce of joy in her. She comes across as very entitled.

She'd be one of the worst and most undeserving finalists ever if she gets that far. And a very disappointing winner God forbid! Such a shame she was saved and replaced.

Waste of a housemate.

I agree with the BIB.

But I do think that I would probably break with some of those lot tbh, I mean Lily for example would be enough to break a saint.

And Martha has brought the grief on herself with Hanah, I have no idea why she did that for.

[Mystic Mock]

She thinks women should be servile to men

surely no Tibb woman is ok with that??

:umm2:

It is how the Islamic Religion is run if we're being honest about it.

And I don't mean that in a prejudiced way, just look at their societies all over the world, it's their way of life and Hanah is a product of that, rightly or wrongly.

[GoldHeart]

It is how the Islamic Religion is run if we're being honest about it.

And I don't mean that in a prejudiced way, just look at their societies all over the world, it's their way of life and Hanah is a product of that, rightly or wrongly.

You need to be careful when you say 'islamic' ... as people are usually thinking of the strictest of strict and more extreme , i noticed Khaled even corrected Segun in the early days when he thought he had 'Islamic traditions'. Khaled was saying his family have more 'Arabic customs' .

Both Khaled & Hanah take their faith very seriously , but they're also very western and in touch with modern day society. Hanah having traditional Muslim values, does not mean she's being controlled without a voice or mind of her own.

She said both the man & woman have respect for eachother ie the woman obeys him yes, but not as some slave.. which is what a certain person is trying to troll and imply :rolleyes:, it's more about being a good loving wife.

People are forgetting there's plenty of British and American women who's dream is to be a wife and have kids and have a nice house they own , and they will happily cook and do stuff for their husbands, as long as the husband is a good guy and is providing and actually cares about them :shrug: .

After all despite culture and religion ,a relationship is a 2 way thing, the man has to bring something to the table and actually being a decent human being . I doubt Hanah would marry a low life who treats her badly, she was telling Segun about failed dating experiences she had in the past . She clearly wants to wait for someone special.

[Mystic Mock]

You need to be careful when you say 'islamic' ... as people are usually thinking of the strictest of strict and more extreme , i noticed Khaled even corrected Segun in the early days when he thought he had 'Islamic traditions'. Khaled was saying his family have more 'Arabic customs' .

Both Khaled & Hanah take their faith very seriously , but they're also very western and in touch with modern day society. Hanah having traditional Muslim values, does not mean she's being controlled without a voice or mind of her own.

She said both the man & woman have respect for eachother ie the woman obeys him yes, but not as some slave.. which is what a certain person is trying to troll and imply :rolleyes:, it's more about being a good loving wife.

People are forgetting there's plenty of British and American women who's dream is to be a wife and have kids and have a nice house they own , and they will happily cook and do stuff for their husbands, as long as the husband is a good guy and is providing and actually cares about them :shrug: .

After all despite culture and religion ,a relationship is a 2 way thing, the man has to bring something to the table and actually being a decent human being . I doubt Hanah would marry a low life who treats her badly, she was telling Segun about failed dating experiences she had in the past . She clearly wants to wait for someone special.

I'm not the most sensitive to religious groups if I'm being entirely honest, it's probably a character flaw for me that came about from being a GTA fan.:laugh:

But yeah, I have no doubt that Khaled & Hannah aren't Religious extremists because they're on BB.

[Mrluvaluva]

You need to be careful when you say 'islamic' ... as people are usually thinking of the strictest of strict and more extreme , i noticed Khaled even corrected Segun in the early days when he thought he had 'Islamic traditions'. Khaled was saying his family have more 'Arabic customs' .

Both Khaled & Hanah take their faith very seriously , but they're also very western and in touch with modern day society. Hanah having traditional Muslim values, does not mean she's being controlled without a voice or mind of her own.

She said both the man & woman have respect for eachother ie the woman obeys him yes, but not as some slave.. which is what a certain person is trying to troll and imply :rolleyes:, it's more about being a good loving wife.

People are forgetting there's plenty of British and American women who's dream is to be a wife and have kids and have a nice house they own , and they will happily cook and do stuff for their husbands, as long as the husband is a good guy and is providing and actually cares about them :shrug: .

After all despite culture and religion ,a relationship is a 2 way thing, the man has to bring something to the table and actually being a decent human being . I doubt Hanah would marry a low life who treats her badly, she was telling Segun about failed dating experiences she had in the past . She clearly wants to wait for someone special.

That's a really interesting thought. And very informative. There are different beliefs everywhere. Even in the same country or continent. Individually we have our own beliefs. We're not defined by our beliefs. We're all different in our values. No matter where you are or who you are. I would stand by anyone who I believe in, or who needs my support in their ideologies. Sometimes we just can't express it enough.

And it's interesting also to listen to other's thoughts. Hearing different views. I love integration. It's like an amalgamation of minds where we can all learn from one another.

Respect is a two way thing.

[Mrluvaluva]

Anyway Hanah is slay! Sorry headmistress. :) Loving your opinions though.

[GoldHeart]

That's a really interesting thought. And very informative. There are different beliefs everywhere. Even in the same country or continent. Individually we have our own beliefs. We're not defined by our beliefs. We're all different in our values. No matter where you are or who you are. I would stand by anyone who I believe in, or who needs my support in their ideologies. Sometimes we just can't express it enough.

And it's interesting also to listen to other's thoughts. Hearing different views. I love integration. It's like an amalgamation of minds where we can all learn from one another.

Respect is a two way thing.

Thank you for your response :)

very well put :love:

[caprimint]

She thinks women should be servile to men

surely no Tibb woman is ok with that??

:umm2:
Ikr lol Lily's reaction said it all :skull:

But anyway Hanah is awful. She's so self righteous and arrogant and she's not even that upfront or honest like people say she is since she was bitching about Ali behind her back with the boys and she was never gonna say anything to her face until BB outed them. She was bitching about Lily with Emma constantly too.

[Antinous]

Ikr lol Lily's reaction said it all :skull:

But anyway Hanah is awful. She's so self righteous and arrogant and she's not even that upfront or honest like people say she is since she was bitching about Ali behind her back with the boys and she was never gonna say anything to her face until BB outed them. She was bitching about Lily with Emma constantly too.

Somone on Reddit yesterday made a really good post why he didn't like Hanah

I expect to get downvoted because Hanah slander seems to right now, but regardless, here's my honest opinion. I absolutely adored this girl at the start, by the way.

Ignoring Ali during the scientist task was really petty and embarrassing

The 'being used as a pawn' thing wasn't that deep at all. Wouldn't anyone in that situation act tactically? Also she was literally saved from nomination and still complaining?

Calling Lily 'the little girl' and 'the young girl' behind her back is really condescending and bitchy and I've seen no one mention it

Lily didn't 'speak over' Hanah when she was giving her opinion, she disagreed

There's a difference between being honest and just being bitchy

Her whole being 'one of the boys' thing is weird and she gives major pick me energy

[Katmieow]

I like her,she's not taking any nonsense.

[Zizu]

I like her,she's not taking any nonsense.


Taking or talking , I struggle to understand what on earth she is saying so I have no idea if she is an intelligent or even interesting individual


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[Beso]

Taking or talking , I struggle to understand what on earth she is saying so I have no idea if she is an intelligent or even interesting individual


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If you had watched the show you may have gotten up to speed with her accent like a lot of others have done.

[vesavius]

Taking or talking , I struggle to understand what on earth she is saying so I have no idea if she is an intelligent or even interesting individual


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Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.

[Billy]

Genuinely shocked at the type of commentary being allowed on here in comparison to other platforms.

[vesavius]

Genuinely shocked at the type of commentary being allowed on here in comparison to other platforms.

In what way?

[Kate!]

In what way?

He just can't accept that others don't like Hanah.

[vesavius]

He just can't accept that others don't like Hanah.

See, I do like her. I don't love her, but I do like her and the role she is playing right now.

I do think that all these hyper exaggerated "I don't understand her" comments are a bit suspect though... I mean, criticise her for who she is and her actions and not how she speaks, IMO.

But, yeah... I am OK with Hanah, though my support is fragile right now and it wouldn't take much for her to fall.

[caprimint]

Somone on Reddit yesterday made a really good post why he didn't like Hanah

I expect to get downvoted because Hanah slander seems to right now, but regardless, here's my honest opinion. I absolutely adored this girl at the start, by the way.

Ignoring Ali during the scientist task was really petty and embarrassing

The 'being used as a pawn' thing wasn't that deep at all. Wouldn't anyone in that situation act tactically? Also she was literally saved from nomination and still complaining?

Calling Lily 'the little girl' and 'the young girl' behind her back is really condescending and bitchy and I've seen no one mention it

Lily didn't 'speak over' Hanah when she was giving her opinion, she disagreed

There's a difference between being honest and just being bitchy

Her whole being 'one of the boys' thing is weird and she gives major pick me energy
Good post :clap1:

[Billy]

He just can't accept that others don't like Hanah.

Not at all, plenty of people don’t like her and that’s fine! Your ramblings about her weird though!

[OnTheRight]

I really dislike her, she is vile.

[BBXX]

Overall I really like Hanah - I think she can be a bit quick to make an argument out of nothing sometimes, and found her reaction to her rule break quite pathetic (say it with chest, but didn't say anything at all) and the subsequent frosting out of Ali in the task very strange. but I like her loyalty and I like her values. I think she's extremely intelligent.

[Mrluvaluva]

Somone on Reddit yesterday made a really good post why he didn't like Hanah

I expect to get downvoted because Hanah slander seems to right now, but regardless, here's my honest opinion. I absolutely adored this girl at the start, by the way.

Ignoring Ali during the scientist task was really petty and embarrassing

The 'being used as a pawn' thing wasn't that deep at all. Wouldn't anyone in that situation act tactically? Also she was literally saved from nomination and still complaining?

Calling Lily 'the little girl' and 'the young girl' behind her back is really condescending and bitchy and I've seen no one mention it

Lily didn't 'speak over' Hanah when she was giving her opinion, she disagreed

There's a difference between being honest and just being bitchy

Her whole being 'one of the boys' thing is weird and she gives major pick me energy

Ok. I'm gonna pick at that comment. Hanah was paired with Lily. She felt, in a way, that she was used just so Lily would make it to the next stage. Nothing to do with her qualities as a HM. So effectively she was a pawn in the game. I understand her stance because she's not just taken that one thing on board, but the whole picture of things. Maybe you were saved, but for the wrong reasons? Doesn't add to your self esteem does it? Now Hanah is aware of that. Ok, not necessarily handling it in the best way, but, she's human.

[Ammi]

Somone on Reddit yesterday made a really good post why he didn't like Hanah

I expect to get downvoted because Hanah slander seems to right now, but regardless, here's my honest opinion. I absolutely adored this girl at the start, by the way.

Ignoring Ali during the scientist task was really petty and embarrassing

The 'being used as a pawn' thing wasn't that deep at all. Wouldn't anyone in that situation act tactically? Also she was literally saved from nomination and still complaining?

Calling Lily 'the little girl' and 'the young girl' behind her back is really condescending and bitchy and I've seen no one mention it

Lily didn't 'speak over' Hanah when she was giving her opinion, she disagreed

There's a difference between being honest and just being bitchy

Her whole being 'one of the boys' thing is weird and she gives major pick me energy

…that bit in bold is quite interesting…I recall an entirely different ‘iconic’ BB use of that descriptive by Aisleyne back in the day…obviously that was said in a different condescending vein and as a put down…but I think that was more how it was said/the context as oppose to the actual wording…it is something to give thought to, though…that if it had been said by ‘insert another housemate’ would some of us take/interpret it differently depending on who it was said by and who it was said to…the whole context etc…I did cringe a bit when Hanah referred to Lily that way, I have to say…but (…I think…)…that it was more said in a ‘Lily is quite young and that’s something I’ve factoring in feeling protective toward her getting upset at hearing anything negative…’…/type way…

[Zizu]

Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.


Bollox

I have no problem at all with ANY of the other housemate’s diction


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[Zizu]

If you had watched the show you may have gotten up to speed with her accent like a lot of others have done.


Errr no

Thats like saying I will understand Spanish after watching Barcelona with a Spanish commentary !

Its not only her dreadful diction she also seems to shorten a lot of words as well - a double whammy so to speak .


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[vesavius]

Bollox

I have no problem at all with ANY of the other housemate’s diction



No, I agree. You only have a problem with her specific one.

[Ammi]

…to be fair to Zizu, not always understanding accents, expressions and an individual way of speaking etc is something that’s often been something that some have difficulty with….hmmmm, I’m not sure if Paul last year had comments about not understanding his Liverpool accent, I think he might have and I know the Geordie accent once with Jay McKray was one that was commented on at the time…and also Alex Rose I think was another…?…I’m thinking there may have been a housemate who was sometimes subtitled as well…maybe that was through live feed, though…I can’t recall exactly…anyway, I don’t think that there is anything deeper than Zizu just not being able to follow and understand something…

[GoldHeart]

Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.

Wonder if the same people took issue with Aisleyne BB7's accent ? :whistle: . Remember her famous quote to Nikki " know yourself little girl " lol.

[Niamh.]

Actually on the Live Feed Audio I have most trouble understanding Sarah

[Bronzo]

I will be voting Hanah out the second she is up for eviction, she’s a huge hypocrite. Claims to say it to others “faces”, yet seemingly ignores people to their face and runs to the boys to bitch behind the back.

She’s deluded in thinking she is straight up and honest, but in reality she’s two faced and bitchy. It’s the fact she claims she’s so honest which makes her so disingenuous

[GoldHeart]

I will be voting Hanah out the second she is up for eviction, she’s a huge hypocrite. Claims to say it to others “faces”, yet seemingly ignores people to their face and runs to the boys to bitch behind the back.

She’s deluded in thinking she is straight up and honest, but in reality she’s two faced and bitchy. It’s the fact she claims she’s so honest which makes her so disingenuous

They all bitch behind each others backs ,Ali and her group are always bitching about the same thing. Difference is Hanah will also say it to their face ,but she gets called aggressive for it :idc: . Sure she gets heated at times but she's passionately defending herself,and I believe she has principles.

[Kate!]

Just watching tonight's show on catch up.

Hanah doing nothing to redeem herself I see. Shouting aggressively at Martha, who was in the wrong fair enough but she (Martha) admitted it and even apologised later in the bedroom?

Telling Martha to shut up, raising her voice. Hanah has a serious attitude problem. Thinks she's above any criticism. Extremely cocky. Doesn't do herself any favours. If she's up this week she'll be gone and I'll be delighted. :idc:

Then in the bedroom she condescendingly 'accepted' Martha's apology adding that Martha needs to keep her distance. Clearly very put out that Martha had 'disrespected' her.

She (Hanah) went to the Diary Room swearing and speaking quite loudly ( the F word was used) needs to calm down. Takes offence at next to nothing. Martha shouldn't have bothered apologising. Hanah made herself look really bad. True colours are emerging.

Let's get rid.

[Scarlett.]

Nah, Martha dragged Hanah into that

[Kate!]

Nah, Martha dragged Hanah into that

Oh she did. I did say Martha was in the wrong if you read my post? It's Hanah's reactions I'm talking about.

[Scarlett.]

Oh she did. I did say Martha was in the wrong if you read my post? It's Hanah's reactions I'm talking about.

Oh, didn't mean to come off as specifically replying to your post :laugh: was just saying in general lol

[Billy]

Just watching tonight's show on catch up.

Hanah doing nothing to redeem herself I see. Shouting aggressively at Martha, who was in the wrong fair enough but she (Martha) admitted it and even apologised later in the bedroom?

Telling Martha to shut up, raising her voice. Hanah has a serious attitude problem. Thinks she's above any criticism. Extremely cocky. Doesn't do herself any favours. If she's up this week she'll be gone and I'll be delighted. :idc:

Then in the bedroom she condescendingly 'accepted' Martha's apology adding that Martha needs to keep her distance. Clearly very put out that Martha had 'disrespected' her.

She (Hanah) went to the Diary Room swearing and speaking quite loudly ( the F word was used) needs to calm down. Takes offence at next to nothing. Martha shouldn't have bothered apologising. Hanah made herself look really bad. True colours are emerging.

Let's get rid.

Hanah only raised her voice and told Martha to shut up after she was berated and accused incorrectly of lying in front of her peers. She tried to gaslight Hanah and the others into thinking she had done wrong when she hadn’t.

You say that she was put out that Martha disrespected her as if she shouldn’t be? Anyone with half a brain can see the micro aggressions thrown her way in the conversation before she even so much raised her voice.

Hanah will be disappointed in herself when she leaves but because she knows she won’t be afforded the same grace as other housemates.

[Mrluvaluva]

Just watching tonight's show on catch up.

Hanah doing nothing to redeem herself I see. Shouting aggressively at Martha, who was in the wrong fair enough but she (Martha) admitted it and even apologised later in the bedroom?

Telling Martha to shut up, raising her voice. Hanah has a serious attitude problem. Thinks she's above any criticism. Extremely cocky. Doesn't do herself any favours. If she's up this week she'll be gone and I'll be delighted. :idc:

Then in the bedroom she condescendingly 'accepted' Martha's apology adding that Martha needs to keep her distance. Clearly very put out that Martha had 'disrespected' her.

She (Hanah) went to the Diary Room swearing and speaking quite loudly ( the F word was used) needs to calm down. Takes offence at next to nothing. Martha shouldn't have bothered apologising. Hanah made herself look really bad. True colours are emerging.

Let's get rid.

I can see your point of view but, for me, Martha instigated that whole scenario. Wouldn't have happened without her kicking the whole thing off. I think Hanah got a bit irate and I think she's not only annoyed with Martha but with herself somewhat for letting it get to her. And to clarify matters, Hanah isn't aggy, just passionate. :)

[Benjamin]

Hannah was pissed off, and rightly so. Martha played a sneaky game there on her “bestie”.

[thesheriff443]

Hannah was pissed off, and rightly so. Martha played a sneaky game there on her “bestie”.

Martha wanted to strengthen ties with Ali and lily by targeting hanah but it backfired

[Benjamin]

Martha wanted to strengthen ties with Ali and lily by targeting hanah but it backfired

Massively.

[Mystic Mock]

Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.

She's a little tricky to understand at first.

But I put that down to her having a poor enunciation imo.

Because there's all sorts of different accents in the house, and Hanah's is the only one that I've personally had any issues with.

Although I do feel like you do pick it up as you go along with Hanah, as I'm a lot better at understanding her now compared to week 1.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

They all bitch behind each others backs ,Ali and her group are always bitching about the same thing. Difference is Hanah will also say it to their face ,but she gets called aggressive for it :idc: . Sure she gets heated at times but she's passionately defending herself,and I believe she has principles.

Rule number 1 for a black girl on BB - Don't exist.

That's not my opinion btw as I don't mind Hanah, but it's definitely the general public perception imo as we saw with Daze too.

[Zizu]

No, I agree. You only have a problem with her specific one.



Thank you


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[Zizu]

…to be fair to Zizu, not always understanding accents, expressions and an individual way of speaking etc is something that’s often been something that some have difficulty with….hmmmm, I’m not sure if Paul last year had comments about not understanding his Liverpool accent, I think he might have and I know the Geordie accent once with Jay McKray was one that was commented on at the time…and also Alex Rose I think was another…?…I’m thinking there may have been a housemate who was sometimes subtitled as well…maybe that was through live feed, though…I can’t recall exactly…anyway, I don’t think that there is anything deeper than Zizu just not being able to follow and understand something…


Thank you..

I couldn’t make it any clearer tbf


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[UserSince2005]

She’s ghetto af

[Mystic Mock]

I can see your point of view but, for me, Martha instigated that whole scenario. Wouldn't have happened without her kicking the whole thing off. I think Hanah got a bit irate and I think she's not only annoyed with Martha but with herself somewhat for letting it get to her. And to clarify matters, Hanah isn't aggy, just passionate. :)

I agree with all of this.

Martha is also meant to be friends with Lily, so why she would want her to know that another Housemate had also heard "get Lily out" chants is a bizarre friend imo.

[Mrluvaluva]

I agree with all of this.

Martha is also meant to be friends with Lily, so why she would want her to know that another Housemate had also heard "get Lily out" chants is a bizarre friend imo.

Yeah. Also Hanah felt like she was confronted by others. Nathan said he was remaining impartial but soon got stuck in. Then Dean pipes up but really doesn't have anything useful to add. Everyone was coming at her. She called on Segun (not necessarily the best move) to have someone onside because she felt frustrated.

Martha then antagonised the situation further by saying "Go get your wingman".

Emma then chipped in and suddenly she's the voice of reason. Hanah said thank you to Emma because she explained it better in a calmer way. Everyone was like "OH"!!!

[Maru]

Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.

I had issues understanding her nearer to the beginning but it got better overtime. I think I have adjusted to her speech patterns, which I am definitely not familiar with. Obviously I am out of the country so I wouldn't even think working class... it sounds closer to an adopted dialect in the US mixed in with another accent (maybe regional) but I couldn't tell you. I am accustomed to differences in accents but hers seems to have more than 1.

[Redway]

why do you ask?

Why shouldn’t someone ask what your utterly bizarre comment is trying to point at?

[Redway]

Cherie she has traditional views based on her religion & culture ,if LT bothered to actually listen fully to the conversation...which Segun was also apart of , he'd realise they both believe in marriage lasting and they are both saving themselves .

LT also failed to point out Hanah said the man actually provides for the woman in her culture,and makes sure she's looked after. It isn't all about the woman ' obeying ' but yes that is part of it . The man also has to prove himself worthy aswell .

Both Segun & Hanah hold similar views ,and have important values when it comes to love .

It wasn’t even about that. She was just pointing out what’s expected of her religion, not that those are personal beliefs of hers. Unless I’m missing something.

[Redway]

I agree with all of this.

Martha is also meant to be friends with Lily, so why she would want her to know that another Housemate had also heard "get Lily out" chants is a bizarre friend imo.

The whole thing was just sneaky beggars.

[Cherie]

In that case Emma was aggressive as well, she ended up shouting in frustration at Martha for not getting the point

[BBXX]

Remember when Ali was in a situation she couldn't remove herself from and she was uncomfortable with the conversation and so said "Please guys can we not talk about this, our parents are watching and I don't want to lose my job" and she was called controlling for policing people's language, but Hanah says "If I say I don't wanna hear you speak, so why are you gonna carry on talking I. Don't. Want. To. Hear. You. Speak" even though she could turn around and walk away and barely anyone is bothered :joker:

Don't get me wrong, Martha was 100% in the wrong for what she did and said, but the way Hanah speaks to people even during a disagreement is appalling. She is incredibly arrogant when she's in a disagreement.

[vesavius]

I had issues understanding her nearer to the beginning but it got better overtime. I think I have adjusted to her speech patterns, which I am definitely not familiar with. Obviously I am out of the country so I wouldn't even think working class... it sounds closer to an adopted dialect in the US mixed in with another accent (maybe regional) but I couldn't tell you. I am accustomed to differences in accents but hers seems to have more than 1.

Working class accents are regional for sure but the way Hanah speaks is def a working class London accent.

It's def a mix though, but that just reflects the cultural change of London via mass immigration and the like.

[Ammi]

…^^…yeah, because Hanah does have a specific way of talking and word usage and terminology etc…I would say that some would find it difficult to understand…and (…I think…)…as is human nature also…if we’re interested/invested in a housemate and find them generally likeable etc…?…we can tend to find any accent or way of speaking, something that we’ll follow more closely and it has more clarity, if that makes sense…?…but if it’s someone that we just haven’t taken to/or we find it very jarring in some way…?…then we won’t make that same effort…?..

…I mean I am a northerner/Geordie but with Jay McKray, I still didn’t understand everything he said and I didn’t alway clarify it all either…/…I was a bit switched off with him/didn’t connect with any of his personality if I recall…

[Ammi]

…I like accents though and I like different ways of speaking and expressions I’m not familiar with…it’s a huge learning thing for me…AJ gets quite a bit of criticism also, doesn’t she…for being ‘too regional’ and not easy to understand for some…I love her accent, it’s a part of who she is…as is Hanah’s…

[joeysteele]

…^^…yeah, because Hanah does have a specific way of talking and word usage and terminology etc…I would say that some would find it difficult to understand…and (…I think…)…as is human nature also…if we’re interested/invested in a housemate and find them generally likeable etc…?…we can tend to find any accent or way of speaking, something that we’ll follow more closely and it has more clarity, if that makes sense…?…but if it’s someone that we just haven’t taken to/or we find it very jarring in some way…?…then we won’t make that same effort…?..

…I mean I am a northerner/Geordie but with Jay McKray, I still didn’t understand everything he said and I didn’t alway clarify it all either…/…I was a bit switched off with him/didn’t connect with any of his personality if I recall…

Oh gosh Jay McKray, I actually didn't want to understand a great deal of what he said.
From it's content not his accent :joker:

I've found Hanah difficult to pick up as to what she's saying sometimes, especially when she's speaking faster.
Most times I find it easy to though.

However I'm afraid I don't really care for Hannah now, she's not one of my likes in there sadly.

[Ammi]

Oh gosh Jay McKray, I actually didn't want to understand a great deal of what he said.
From it's content not his accent :joker:

I've found Hanah difficult to pick up as to what she's saying sometimes, especially when she's speaking faster.
Most times I find it easy to though.

However I'm afraid I don't really care for Hannah now, she's not one of my likes in there sadly.

…that’s the thing, Joey…with Jay it was kind of a blessing for me that I didn’t always understand him/praise the Lord, type thing…but with Hanah, I’ve found from the beginning that even if I haven’t always caught every word or understood an expression etc…?…I will take time to change that because she has quite a bit of wisdom and I like her take in stuff…and I think that’s quite a ‘human nature’ thing…there isn’t always any deeper meaning other than some people we connect to with more interest in their words and conversations etc …and others, not so much at all…

[ThomasC]

Hope Hanah wins to be honest. I love how passionate she is for her friends and also that if she has problems with someone she will normally speak to them about it (not Ali, as BB didn’t really give her the chance) - for example the way she has supported Lily without patronising her.

Plus, she sees right through Ali and that is only a positive in my book

What do you mean BB didn't give her chance? They have had loads of time to talk in there but both have decided to just get on with it

I think your last point is interesting as I think the dislike for Ali is so strong that Hannah is automatically liked

I'll ask you politely to delete that before I report it Nicky. It's got nothing to do with her colour. Ffs.

Not allowed to dislike people these days without the race card being played. Insulting and ridiculous.




Yeah people can become a bit silly

She thinks women should be servile to men

surely no Tibb woman is ok with that??

:umm2:

She didn't say that exactly, but I take your point

It is how the Islamic Religion is run if we're being honest about it.

And I don't mean that in a prejudiced way, just look at their societies all over the world, it's their way of life and Hanah is a product of that, rightly or wrongly.

This is my thoughts.

I find it degrading towards women. We have come so far on this front. It's not Westernised to have a different view. Equality is a big thing and this pisses all over. As a country we're suppose to be diverse though. She has her opinion I don't agree with it at all.

[Billy]

What do you mean BB didn't give her chance? They have had loads of time to talk in there but both have decided to just get on with it

I think your last point is interesting as I think the dislike for Ali is so strong that Hannah is automatically liked






Yeah people can become a bit silly



She didn't say that exactly, but I take your point



This is my thoughts.

I find it degrading towards women. We have come so far on this front. It's not Westernised to have a different view. Equality is a big thing and this pisses all over. As a country we're suppose to be diverse though. She has her opinion I don't agree with it at all.

I meant that Hanah had the conversation with the boys about Ali but then just a few hours later BB gathered them together and aired it, so it wasn’t that she didn’t say to Ali how she felt but more BB aired it before she did. You only have to look at her interactions in the house to know that she would have at some point.

I do think she could have handled what happened after, better though!

[rusticgal]

When Hanah told us about her religion and having to be subservient to their husbands....I'm starting to think Hanah might struggle with this..:laugh:

[ThomasC]

I meant that Hanah had the conversation with the boys about Ali but then just a few hours later BB gathered them together and aired it, so it wasn’t that she didn’t say to Ali how she felt but more BB aired it before she did. You only have to look at her interactions in the house to know that she would have at some point.

I do think she could have handled what happened after, better though!

I don't know if she would have told her tbh. We will never know.

For me, if you need to raise your voice and start swearing then you've lost the argument/debate already.

[Billy]

I don't know if she would have told her tbh. We will never know.

For me, if you need to raise your voice and start swearing then you've lost the argument/debate already.

For me, it’s about what is being actually said rather than how it’s delivered. There are a certain type of people who don’t seem to be allowed to make mistakes and aren’t given any grace at all (I don’t mean by you, but in general).

[Crimson Dynamo]

As a country we're suppose to be diverse though. She has her opinion I don't agree with it at all.

says who?

We have come a long way as a country and importing millions of people who have not come a long way is both dangerous and backward

[Vicky.]

I like Hannah, she's 'fiesty' not aggressive imo

[ThomasC]

says who?

We have come a long way as a country and importing millions of people who have not come a long way is both dangerous and backward

There's not one set person.

But generally speaking.

It CAN be dangerous. Depends on the view expressed, but part of British values is the ability to accept others from diverse backgrounds.

[Vanessa]

I have to say, i don't like her tone and attitude at all. No idea why Martha was so keep to make up with her. I wouldn't have bothered. She's horrible.

[vesavius]

Remember when Ali was in a situation she couldn't remove herself from and she was uncomfortable with the conversation and so said "Please guys can we not talk about this, our parents are watching and I don't want to lose my job" and she was called controlling for policing people's language, but Hanah says "If I say I don't wanna hear you speak, so why are you gonna carry on talking I. Don't. Want. To. Hear. You. Speak" even though she could turn around and walk away and barely anyone is bothered :joker:

Don't get me wrong, Martha was 100% in the wrong for what she did and said, but the way Hanah speaks to people even during a disagreement is appalling. She is incredibly arrogant when she's in a disagreement.

Both were controlling in those two separate situations.

Is this your way of agreeing that Ali was indeed being controlling when she said that?

[vesavius]

I have to say, i don't like her tone and attitude at all. No idea why Martha was so keep to make up with her. I wouldn't have bothered. She's horrible.

Because Martha is the type to assassinate you behind your back to her crowd and then apologise to you in private.

It's her trying to play both sides.

[BBXX]

Both were controlling in those two separate situations.

Is this your way of agreeing that Ali was indeed being controlling when she said that?

No, because she asked for a favour because she was uncomfortable and couldn’t leave. She specifically said when discussing it that she doesn’t care when it’s round the house as she can remove herself from the situation, providing she wasn’t trying to police conversation.

Hanah effectively saying “I’ve told you I don’t want to hear it so stop talking” despite having absolute free will to remove herself is very different IMO.

I have criticised Ali on numerous occasions - on her treatment of Khaled, on her not being very fun., etc…butI don’t believe Ali’s request for housemates not to talk about ejaculation around her when she couldn’t leave the conversation was unreasonable in the slightest.

[BBXX]

Because Martha is the type to assassinate you behind your back to her crowd and then apologise to you in private.

It's her trying to play both sides.

This I agree with. I would say Martha is probably the most disingenuous housemates in there. “I don’t want a friendship with her. I don’t care” to “I have a lot of love for you” in the space of an hour. Whut.

[Billy]

Remember when Ali was in a situation she couldn't remove herself from and she was uncomfortable with the conversation and so said "Please guys can we not talk about this, our parents are watching and I don't want to lose my job" and she was called controlling for policing people's language, but Hanah says "If I say I don't wanna hear you speak, so why are you gonna carry on talking I. Don't. Want. To. Hear. You. Speak" even though she could turn around and walk away and barely anyone is bothered :joker:

Don't get me wrong, Martha was 100% in the wrong for what she did and said, but the way Hanah speaks to people even during a disagreement is appalling. She is incredibly arrogant when she's in a disagreement.

Ali didn’t like people talking about sex while Hanah was defending herself against being accused as a liar and also an attempt of turning the house against her.

It’s day and night IMO.

[BBXX]

Ali didn’t like people talking about sex while Hanah was defending herself against being accused as a liar and also an attempt of turning the house against her.

It’s day and night IMO.

Hanah has every right to defend herself. Saying “I’ve told you I don’t want you to talk so stop talking” is controlling regardless of who is in the right. Martha was completely in the wrong, but Hanah didn’t handle herself well at all. If she didn’t want to hear Martha talk, she can walk away.

[Beso]

Hanah did absolutely nothing wrong.

She was forced to stand alone in front of everyone and made to defend herself for being nice. She ignored Martha's evil mouth to save Lilys upset.

But the moment Lily asked her if she heard anything she immediately told her yes, because she doesn't lie., and because it was Lily that wanted to know and not the bouncing jowel head.

[BBXX]

Yeah once again Martha was 100% in the wrong but at the same time Hanah handled herself terribly.

[Billy]

Yeah once again Martha was 100% in the wrong but at the same time Hanah handled herself terribly.

But so did Martha. Martha lied, Martha berated and belittled but she did it with a nursery nurse smile on her face for the sake of painting Hanah to be the villain.

Hanah acted out of frustration at the above, she could have ‘walked away” like you said but why would you want to back down when someone is trying to turn people against you.

[Cherie]

Yeah once again Martha was 100% in the wrong but at the same time Hanah handled herself terribly.

tbf she didnt cover herself in glory but it is really frustrating to be explaining yourself and have two people sat on the soft screwing up their faces and pretending to misunderstand, when you are being painted as the bad girl when you were doing the right thing you can imagine that would be incredibly frustrating right? Emma was just as fiesty as Hanah but she is not being labelled agressive, you could see she was angry at the pair sat on the couch and she was not being accused of anything so I can only imagine how Hanah felt ....and as for Martha creeping around Hanah afterwards that was kind of mad no?

[Cherie]

Ali didn’t like people talking about sex while Hanah was defending herself against being accused as a liar and also an attempt of turning the house against her.

It’s day and night IMO.

Completely off topic but were you King Billy back in the day or was that another user?

[Oliver_W]

She's clearly very privileged, and has a high opinion of herself and her place in the world.

But beneath that I admire her passion, and how she stands up for her friends.

[Billy]

Completely off topic but were you King Billy back in the day or was that another user?

No that wasn’t me!

[Beso]

But so did Martha. Martha lied, Martha berated and belittled but she did it with a nursery nurse smile on her face for the sake of painting Hanah to be the villain.

Hanah acted out of frustration at the above, she could have ‘walked away” like you said but why would you want to back down when someone is trying to turn people against you.


And she was going to walk away until Martha's gob went again.

[Cherie]

No that wasn’t me!


:laugh: thank you for clarifying

[BBXX]

But so did Martha. Martha lied, Martha berated and belittled but she did it with a nursery nurse smile on her face for the sake of painting Hanah to be the villain..

I agree Martha also behaved terribly, I’m not defending her.

Hanah acted out of frustration at the above, she could have ‘walked away” like you said but why would you want to back down when someone is trying to turn people against you

Because she said herself she didn’t want to hear her speak. I agree Hanah should stand and defend herself. Telling someone that she’s told them she didn’t want to hear her speak so don’t speak is not a defence, it’s an order.

[Cherie]

And she was going to walk away until Martha's gob went again.

I laughed when Martha said ...bye then....and Hanah said oh I am going to take my shoes off and sit down


as an aside I saw this before I saw clip and someone posted that Hanah saying she was taking her shoes off meant she was going to start a fight :skull:

[Beso]

I laughed when Martha said ...bye then....and Hanah said oh I am going to take my shoes off and sit down


as an aside I saw this before I saw clip and someone posted that Hanah saying she was taking her shoes off meant she was going to start a fight :skull:

Wad it someone who pretended they dont understand hannah's street talk?

[Cherie]

Wad it someone who pretended they dont understand hannah's street talk?

Cant recall who it was, but when I read it, I thought it was pretty random

[BBXX]

I laughed when Martha said ...bye then....and Hanah said oh I am going to take my shoes off and sit down


I thought that was hilarious. :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

It's the kind of thing I'd do, if I know someone doesn't like me I deliberately sit with them and force conversation :laugh:

[Ammi]

…one of the things that I really like with Hanah…?…all of her responses during the escalation of the row might not have been textbook perfect…?..but regardless of fault and where it lay in different parts of it all…?…it’s something that envelopes so much negative energy that it takes time then to reflect and give thought to etc…and Hanah took that time because I think that’s natural also and something many of us can relate to..not now/not right at this moment/ I can’t hug and make up, type thing because she would have felt that to be a false gesture…?…whereas Martha showed quite extremes of character there and less balanced…she went from…yeah girl, go get your wingman, let’s do this …!!!!!!!!….to oh besties, I love you type thing…which hmmmmm is much less balanced and level as Hanah…but sadly I’m thinking that Hanah might more get the ‘labelling’ of ‘aggression’….

[Beso]

I thought that was hilarious. :laugh:

Martha must have been thinking, me and my big mouth.:joker:

[Ammi]

It's the kind of thing I'd do, if I know someone doesn't like me I deliberately sit with them and force conversation :laugh:


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[Gusto Brunt]

I like her,she's not taking any nonsense.

And may I say, she looked very curvy in her eviction night dress. :hee:

[Kazanne]

That's how I see it now on reflection , plus people are leaving out the fact Thomas told her to "shut up", which was kind of rude :nono:.

I still wish Nathan got mud thrown at him though lol .

But if he had done it,it would be different,Yes ?

[Cherie]

…one of the things that I really like with Hanah…?…all of her responses during the escalation of the row might not have been textbook perfect…?..but regardless of fault and where it lay in different parts of it all…?…it’s something that envelopes so much negative energy that it takes time then to reflect and give thought to etc…and Hanah took that time because I think that’s natural also and something many of us can relate to..not now/not right at this moment/ I can’t hug and make up, type thing because she would have felt that to be a false gesture…?…whereas Martha showed quite extremes of character there and less balanced…she went from…yeah girl, go get your wingman, let’s do this …!!!!!!!!….to oh besties, I love you type thing…which hmmmmm is much less balanced and level as Hanah…but sadly I’m thinking that Hanah might more get the ‘labelling’ of ‘aggression’….


yeah not sure what to make of that, some people can blow though and then its done and dusted, I think Martha liked having the backing of the group so that egged her on a bit, solo its a different matter

[vesavius]

Hanah's attitude stinks and the way that she deals with others is abysmal, but that doesn't make her wrong in that specific situation.

Hanah didn't want to say it to Lily because she wanted to not hurt her... Martha forced her to do that, intentionally putting her in an unwinnable situation... If she didn't say it again she was evil, if she did she was evil.

And then they expected her to be happy about that.

[DaturaAT]

i'm a actually a bit shocked how vile shes coming across now. her chant "alis plan did not succeed" was childish and mean, it triggers me immensely and it shows a lot of hatred. her attitude towards big brother the other day when she, Segun and Khaled were called out was not even funny anymore

[GoldHeart]

Hanah's attitude stinks and the way that she deals with others is abysmal, but that doesn't make her wrong in that specific situation.

Hanah didn't want to say it to Lily because she wanted to not hurt her... Martha forced her to do that, intentionally putting her in an unwinnable situation... If she didn't say it again she was evil, if she did she was evil.

And then they expected her to be happy about that.

I have to disagree in parts , abysmal is a bit strong.... considering she's sharing a house with someone who lives like worzel gummidge on a bad day,and she still tried to help that person..who threw it back in her face.

Yes Hanah might kick off and get loud , maybe she can control her temper more at times...but everything I'm seeing so far ,is a reaction to when someone has pushed or or been bitchy & rude to her. But it will definitely get her nominated now/ up for eviction now .

Martha put her in a no win situation for sure , and it was not nice.

[GoldHeart]

yeah not sure what to make of that, some people can blow though and then its done and dusted, I think Martha liked having the backing of the group so that egged her on a bit, solo its a different matter

Martha is fake AF , and has proved she's really a coward at heart. She went from stirring the pot & making sly digs....to then running to Hanah for a instant reconciliation of " oh I'm sorry ,oh your makeup looks good" . She's such a weird kiss arse.

She definitely was trying to please Ali and Lily, like the kid who feels left out at school, trying desperately to be a part of the gang .

[Niamh.]

Martha is fake AF , and has proved she's really a coward at heart. She went from stirring the pot & making sly digs....to then running to Hanah for a instant reconciliation of " oh I'm sorry ,oh your makeup looks good" . She's such a weird kiss arse.



She definitely was trying to please Ali and Lily, like the kid who feels left out at school, trying desperately to be a part of the gang .Yeah the over the top compliments are so cringe

[vesavius]

I have to disagree in parts , abysmal is a bit strong.... considering she's sharing a house with someone who lives like worzel gummidge on a bad day,and she still tried to help that person..who threw it back in her face.

Yes Hanah might kick off and get loud , maybe she can control her temper more at times...but everything I'm seeing so far ,is a reaction to when someone has pushed or or been bitchy & rude to her. But it will definitely get her nominated now/ up for eviction now .

Martha put her in a no win situation for sure , and it was not nice.

Hanah can def be kind and thoughtful, she has a very sweet side to her, but she can also be arrogant, belittling, and show main character syndrome.

Sadly, las night she showed the worst side to herself.

BUT, yes, she was baited into it and I get how the situation was so frustrating to her.

[caprimint]

God she's so awful I cannot WAIT to vote her out

[DaturaAT]

Martha is fake AF , and has proved she's really a coward at heart. She went from stirring the pot & making sly digs....to then running to Hanah for a instant reconciliation of " oh I'm sorry ,oh your makeup looks good" . She's such a weird kiss arse.

She definitely was trying to please Ali and Lily, like the kid who feels left out at school, trying desperately to be a part of the gang .

i agree with a lot of this (not everything), but i dont think she does it out of malice. i think she has been quite an outsider in real life and the house and yea i guess she wants to be liked - and she does that in a pretty awkward and and probably fake way

oh and please take it the wrong way: she's very british-polite, she makes compliments and wishes a good day even when she's sad or angry and doesn't really speak her true emotions. might be considered fake, might aswell be just a coping / hiding mechanism

[DaturaAT]

Hanah can def be kind and thoughtful, she has a very sweet side to her, but she can also be arrogant, belittling, and show main character syndrome.

Sadly, las night she showed the worst side to herself.

BUT, yes, she was baited into it and I get how the situation was so frustrating to her.

agree, that arrogant side is very off putting though. i think shes very smart and a caring person, but she can be absolutely vile. and her reaction was a huge part why this argument was so big

[Beso]

Martha was ten times more aggresive than Hanah. It was Martha poking the fire all the time with her snidey comments, all hanah was doing was getting frustrated at the imbeciles inability to grasp hanahs point of why she ignored her repeated requests to say if she heard anything.

[Mrluvaluva]

I laughed when Martha said ...bye then....and Hanah said oh I am going to take my shoes off and sit down



Exactly. Once Martha said that she made it worse and Hanah then reacted which prolonged the whole thing. She should have just kept her cake hole shut.

[Ammi]

yeah not sure what to make of that, some people can blow though and then its done and dusted, I think Martha liked having the backing of the group so that egged her on a bit, solo its a different matter

…yeah for sure that’s true that some personalities can feel the need to make up quickly, they don’t like any bad vibes ‘hanging’, you know…whereas Hanah obviously isn’t that personality…she needs distance from that person but she also I think, needs to process the events etc….I think with Martha, it just feels a bit on or off, type thing …it all got quite ‘spiteful’ and then…oh, besties…you look amazing and I think that would be difficult to respond to…

[GoldHeart]

Exactly. Once Martha said that she made it worse and Hanah then reacted which prolonged the whole thing. She should have just kept her cake hole shut.

Both Martha & Nathan kept forcing / pressuring Hanah to say it , like poking a bear or hornets nest . Nathan pointed his finger at Hanah like he was calling a dog over to him...who does he think he is with his " come here Hanah", like he was beckoning a dog... before that the whole thing could have been dropped.

But Lily kept going on about it , like a spoilt child having a tantrum. She needs to grow up ,and Martha kept prolonging it .

Emma was a diamond for basically instantly shutting down gobby Martha & cord sore Nathan, Emma isn't daft...she saw straight through Martha's BS. I'm so glad Emma spoke common sense :clap1: .

[moon_peach]

I had mixed feelings on her but after the way she acted in the Red Witch episode and in this most recent one I'm not a fan and would like her to leave. It was less the argument between her and Martha that bothered me (a lot about the way she expressed herself wasn't on, but her primary point was right) and more her gleefully singing 'her plan did not succeed!' etc upstairs. I just find the vitriol she expresses towards Ali in particular very uncomfortable to watch. I understand why she'd have issues with her, but the way she goes about expressing it seems so cruel and extreme.

[eternal]

If I was her I would have acted the same way. I have no problem with speaking your mind, if others don't like it they can get effed.

God awful Martha was shiit stirring as usual and tried to paint a narrative around Hanah. It was totally out of order and very sly. Hanah only lost her composure when Martha made the "get Segun your wing man" comment. I would have been fuming too.

[eternal]

Working class accents are regional for sure but the way Hanah speaks is def a working class London accent.

It's def a mix though, but that just reflects the cultural change of London via mass immigration and the like.

I have no issues understanding Hanah whatsoever because I went to school and grew up around hundreds of people like her.

That's your typical Somali-London accent. She uses A LOT of slang though. Somali Londoners have a very obvious accent. If they talk fast and use heavy slang they can be pretty hard to understand to the untrained ear.

I think she tries to be eloquent but her "ghetto" side comes out and she doesn't properly enunciate.

[Cherie]

I'm glad Hanah didn't chuck the teabags like Dean did at Martha....she would be crucified for it

[Niamh.]

I'm glad Hanah didn't chuck the teabags like Dean did at Martha....she would be crucified for itOh I know, she'd be called aggressive

[Zizu]

Such hyperbole. She isn't that hard to understand, some are just pretending that she is for (I suspect) pretty murky reasons.

If a working class or cultural accent automatically stops you even starting to listen to a person than that may be something to work on.


It’s her problem not mine ..

I don’t appreciate the subtle suggestion of racism either .. If you remember last series I was Trish’s biggest fan .. right to the end and beyond


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[Mystic Mock]

Yeah. Also Hanah felt like she was confronted by others. Nathan said he was remaining impartial but soon got stuck in. Then Dean pipes up but really doesn't have anything useful to add. Everyone was coming at her. She called on Segun (not necessarily the best move) to have someone onside because she felt frustrated.

Martha then antagonised the situation further by saying "Go get your wingman".

Emma then chipped in and suddenly she's the voice of reason. Hanah said thank you to Emma because she explained it better in a calmer way. Everyone was like "OH"!!!

It shouldn't even need to be explained though.

Martha, Nathan, and Dean should all be ashamed of themselves for just not seeing Hanah's point of view by themselves.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't know if she would have told her tbh. We will never know.

For me, if you need to raise your voice and start swearing then you've lost the argument/debate already.

That's not how an argument/debate is meant to be judged, but granted most people do make your mistake tbf.

In my view it should always be who's points that you agree with is the winner of the discussion.

[Mystic Mock]

No, because she asked for a favour because she was uncomfortable and couldn’t leave. She specifically said when discussing it that she doesn’t care when it’s round the house as she can remove herself from the situation, providing she wasn’t trying to police conversation.

Hanah effectively saying “I’ve told you I don’t want to hear it so stop talking” despite having absolute free will to remove herself is very different IMO.

I have criticised Ali on numerous occasions - on her treatment of Khaled, on her not being very fun., etc…butI don’t believe Ali’s request for housemates not to talk about ejaculation around her when she couldn’t leave the conversation was unreasonable in the slightest.

Every Housemate when being forced to sit in the Living Room by BB has to hear conversations that they're personally not interested in, and after all of the Seasons that BBUK has made, only one Housemate was precious enough to kick up a stink about a conversation taking in place when she couldn't move away from the chat, and that's Ali.

And she actually could've ignored him by striking up her own conversation with other people that weren't interested in Marcello's chat.

And don't get me wrong I do find Marcello a bit much sometimes with the sex talk, but Ali had options to ignore his chat, she just chose not to take it.

[BBXX]

Every Housemate when being forced to sit in the Living Room by BB has to hear conversations that they're personally not interested in, and after all of the Seasons that BBUK has made, only one Housemate was precious enough to kick up a stink about a conversation taking in place when she couldn't move away from the chat, and that's Ali.


I think there is a distinct difference between not being personally interested in and feeling uncomfortable with. Additionally, we don't know this hasn't happened before and just not been televised, that's an assumption. Perhaps it has, and Marcello has been the only person who objected to it hence why it made TV. Maybe it's happened many times and the other HMs have said "Sorry, course, lets change the subject".

Marcello has said a few times now he objects to people telling him what he is talking about makes them uncomfortable, which I find major red flags especially for a youth worker in his mid-30s. I am the same age as Marcello. I would want to know if a topic I am discussing is making someone uncomfortable as I'd hate for them to feel that way and know not to discuss it with them moving forward.

I think the issue with what happened with this conversation is two-fold: Ali went about it the wrong way. Instead of saying "Please can you not talk about Marcello wanking, I find it uncomfortable, do you mind if we change the subject" she used her job as the reason. Perhaps she thought that might feel more credible but it didn't.

The second I think is the subject matter. I think sex is so widely spoken about now that many people don't understand it when others find it an uncomfortable thing to have to listen to someone discussing.

[Maru]

I think there is a distinct difference between not being personally interested in and feeling uncomfortable with. Additionally, we don't know this hasn't happened before and just not been televised, that's an assumption. Perhaps it has, and Marcello has been the only person who objected to it hence why it made TV. Maybe it's happened many times and the other HMs have said "Sorry, course, lets change the subject".

Marcello has said a few times now he objects to people telling him what he is talking about makes them uncomfortable, which I find major red flags especially for a youth worker in his mid-30s. I am the same age as Marcello. I would want to know if a topic I am discussing is making someone uncomfortable as I'd hate for them to feel that way and know not to discuss it with them moving forward.

I think the issue with what happened with this conversation is two-fold: Ali went about it the wrong way. Instead of saying "Please can you not talk about Marcello wanking, I find it uncomfortable, do you mind if we change the subject" she used her job as the reason. Perhaps she thought that might feel more credible but it didn't.

The second I think is the subject matter. I think sex is so widely spoken about now that many people don't understand it when others find it an uncomfortable thing to have to listen to someone discussing.

I haven't taken note of it closely enough to scrutinize the exact proportion, but he is often making these jokes with other straight women as an audience, so that's one part of it. If it had come from one of those ladies and seen as unattractive by one or more, and otherwise not reciprocated, he would very likely stop. Therefore, her being a lesbian is a likely factor. If other women are rewarding him with attention, then Ali's opinion might as well be nonexistent since she isn't the intended audience and her disapproval doesn't have sway with any of the other girls.

Marcello's overall thing seems to be he likes to match energy with other people where he finds affinity with those others and that means literally everything... he likes an open book, etc.

[StephenPullen]

She reminds me of " 'MEMBER I TOLD YOU! "

[Mystic Mock]

I think there is a distinct difference between not being personally interested in and feeling uncomfortable with. Additionally, we don't know this hasn't happened before and just not been televised, that's an assumption. Perhaps it has, and Marcello has been the only person who objected to it hence why it made TV. Maybe it's happened many times and the other HMs have said "Sorry, course, lets change the subject".

Marcello has said a few times now he objects to people telling him what he is talking about makes them uncomfortable, which I find major red flags especially for a youth worker in his mid-30s. I am the same age as Marcello. I would want to know if a topic I am discussing is making someone uncomfortable as I'd hate for them to feel that way and know not to discuss it with them moving forward.

I think the issue with what happened with this conversation is two-fold: Ali went about it the wrong way. Instead of saying "Please can you not talk about Marcello wanking, I find it uncomfortable, do you mind if we change the subject" she used her job as the reason. Perhaps she thought that might feel more credible but it didn't.

The second I think is the subject matter. I think sex is so widely spoken about now that many people don't understand it when others find it an uncomfortable thing to have to listen to someone discussing.

I'm only going off whatever has made the BB highlights over the Seasons, and Ali is the only one that I can think of that's kicked up a stink about sex chats/uncomfortable conversations when BB has asked the Housemates to be seated in the Living Area.

Obviously there might be other examples like you've said, but as I don't know what they are, I can't really judge something that might or might not exist.:laugh:

For me I personally wouldn't deliberately have one on one chats with someone about a topic that they're personally uncomfortable with (as that's extremely rude and inappropriate imo) but I do ultimately think that Ali should've just ignored his chat, I don't think that she had the right to tell him off for having that chat and I will stand by that.

And I do agree with you that she definitely came at him in the wrong way.

[Blue Canary]

Never have I ever had a housemate plummet so fast and hard in my estimation. Can she redeem herself? I doubt it.

Well aware this won't be a popular opinion. :idc:

She's sullen, miserable, not an ounce of joy in her. She comes across as very entitled.

She'd be one of the worst and most undeserving finalists ever if she gets that far. And a very disappointing winner God forbid! Such a shame she was saved and replaced.

Waste of a housemate.

Absolutely agree

[Niamh.]

Absolutely agree

Well....... :smug:

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393867

[Beso]

She's as miserable as sin. Not the girl we saw go into the house on launch night. She's permanently got a face like a smacked arse, gives nothing in the tasks. Her expressions scream can't be arsed.

Very disappointed. Zero entertainment value and her attitude is that she doesn't seem to want to be there, even worse than Izaaz.

Yawnsville.



You're loving her for being miserable last night.:shrug:

Please make it make sense

[Blue Canary]

She's as miserable as sin. Not the girl we saw go into the house on launch night. She's permanently got a face like a smacked arse, gives nothing in the tasks. Her expressions scream can't be arsed.

Very disappointed. Zero entertainment value and her attitude is that she doesn't seem to want to be there, even worse than Izaaz.

Yawnsville.

Totally agree

[rusticgal]

Totally agree


Welcome....do you have any of your own opinions on Hanah?

[Cherie]

Welcome....do you have any of your own opinions on Hanah?

:laugh:

[DigitalSid]

Horrid woman. Reminds me of Alexandra from BB9.

[Beso]

Horrid woman. Reminds me of Alexandra from BB9.

Lol...nothing like braap braap.

Hanah has redeeming qualities.

[DigitalSid]

Lol...nothing like braap braap.

Hanah has redeeming qualities.

So does a pit bull.

[Beso]

So does a pit bull.

Silly comparison..

[GoldHeart]

Horrid woman. Reminds me of Alexandra from BB9.

What a delu lu comparison , Alexandra was a bully & nasty...and got removed for threatening behaviour.

[DigitalSid]

What a delu lu comparison , Alexandra was a bully & nasty...and got removed for threatening behaviour.

Hanah is nasty and a bully and should be removed for threatening behaviour. If a bloke spoke like she did, he'd be out.

[Niamh.]

Hanah is nasty and a bully and should be removed for threatening behaviour. If a bloke spoke like she did, he'd be out.

wtf? Don't be ridiculous. What threatening behaviour?

[GoldHeart]

Hanah is nasty and a bully and should be removed for threatening behaviour. If a bloke spoke like she did, he'd be out.

Utter nonsense.

Blokes have spoken far worse and remained in the BB house , maybe you should re watch previous BB 's .

Hanah is not a bully nor is she threatening.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She does have a dismissive aggressive tone and can be sullen going around with her face tripping herself

[DigitalSid]

Utter nonsense.

Blokes have spoken far worse and remained in the BB house , maybe you should re watch previous BB 's .

Hanah is not a bully nor is she threatening.

"People need to mind how they speak to me. That was me at a 2. I was being merciful."

Sounds pretty threatening to me and would certainly be taken as such if Marcello had said it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"People need to mind how they speak to me. That was me at a 2. I was being merciful."

Sounds pretty threatening to me and would certainly be taken as such if Marcello had said it.

Bang on right

[Niamh.]

"People need to mind how they speak to me. That was me at a 2. I was being merciful."

Sounds pretty threatening to me and would certainly be taken as such if Marcello had said it.

And you think that's enough to kick someone out of the house? People are allowed to argue in there, that isn't a threat. Dean was more threatening than her when he threw a box in Marthas direction in anger the other day (no i don't think he should be kicked out either)

[DigitalSid]

And you think that's enough to kick someone out of the house? People are allowed to argue in there, that isn't a threat. Dean was more threatening than her when he threw a box in Marthas direction in anger the other day (no i don't think he should be kicked out either)

Of course it's a threat. There's an implict "or else" in there.

[Niamh.]

Of course it's a threat. There's an implict "or else" in there.

Ah stop :laugh: Are we gone that soft now that you really think that was a threat and she should have been removed from the house? There was no implication what so ever that she meant she would become violent

[GoldHeart]

"People need to mind how they speak to me. That was me at a 2. I was being merciful."

Sounds pretty threatening to me and would certainly be taken as such if Marcello had said it.

You didn't mind Dean throwing a box of tea at someone though did you . When he was having his pathetic strop.

[DigitalSid]

I'm a few episodes behind so haven't seen it yet.

[GoldHeart]

I'm a few episodes behind so haven't seen it yet.

Sarah also lost her temper in the lab rat task , it was actually entertaining LOL ...but if you're so against " angry " behaviour,then you'll probably find her attitude unacceptable aswell :hee: .

[Beso]

She does have a dismissive aggressive tone and can be sullen going around with her face tripping herself

I would be the same living with and dealing with half of those arseholes.

[Beso]

"People need to mind how they speak to me. That was me at a 2. I was being merciful."

Sounds pretty threatening to me and would certainly be taken as such if Marcello had said it.



My goodness, you must **** your pants whenever deliveroo knock at the door.

[DigitalSid]

My goodness, you must **** your pants whenever deliveroo knock at the door.

It doesn't threaten me particularly, because I'm a bloke, but I would absolutely find her aggressive and intimidating if I was another woman.

[GoldHeart]

It doesn't threaten me particularly, because I'm a bloke, but I would absolutely find her aggressive and intimidating if I was another woman.

What was Helen wood then ?:whistle: .

[Beso]

It doesn't threaten me particularly, because I'm a bloke, but I would absolutely find her aggressive and intimidating if I was another woman.

I dont know why:shrug: if you watch her moments back you will see she never ever takes a step towards anyone she is disagreeing with. I think you see angry black woman in her face when she is trying to be heard.

[DigitalSid]

What was Helen wood then ?:whistle: .

Not sure what your point is with this? Helen was also aggressive, yes.

[DigitalSid]

I dont know why:shrug: if you watch her moments back you will see she never ever takes a step towards anyone she is disagreeing with. I think you see angry black woman in her face when she is trying to be heard.

No, I think I see an angry black woman because she is an angry woman who is black.