Erik Ten Hag sacked

[AnnieK]

Just announced.

Thank God.....although who will sort us out will have a huge job on their hands

[Cherie]

yaaassssssssssssssssssss Ruud is coming

[bots]

it was inevitable

[joeysteele]

I'm honestly surprised this has taken so long for this to come about.
It's good he's gone but I hope they get someone who not only has a better plan but who can inspire the team too.
Because they are looking demoralised.

[bots]

Southgate in? :laugh:

[Black Dagger]

Sadness. I thought he was doing a brilliant job.

[ThomasC]

Blame the manager, it's an easy cop out

[Nicky91]

Roger Schmidt is available ;)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Id imagine Nagelesmann is on the cards?

[Nicky91]

Id imagine Nagelesmann is on the cards?

Nagelsmann is harder to get, than for example Roger Schmidt, whom got decent results in his career so far (at Red Bull Salzburg, PSV Eindhoven and more recently at Benfica) first german to win the portuguese primeira liga too

Schmidt did good here in Eindhoven with the material he had (i mean working with the likes of Andre Ramalho is a handicap on its own lol)

[bots]

they can get anyone if they pay for it, but united are skint, it cost them 17 million to sack TH. My money would be on Potter or Southgate

[Crimson Dynamo]

they can get anyone if they pay for it, but united are skint, it cost them 17 million to sack TH. My money would be on Potter or Southgate

Both would be a terrible mistake

[GiRTh]

Potter or Southgate would be brilliant.

[Zizu]

Southgate would be interesting .

I think he should have won the last two or three international competitions with the talent at his disposal so pretty sure he would struggle with this United squad


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[bots]

Amorim next season is the current thinking

[Zizu]

Amorim next season is the current thinking


Yep he’s the new favourite

Apparently Liverpool looked at him and decided against ..

Rúben Amorim
Portuguese football manager


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[Zizu]

Amorim next season is the current thinking


He’s apparently agreed verbally .. just need to sort out the compensation figure


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[The Slim Reaper]

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[MTVN]

They need to get Amorin now if they want him, can't have another wasted few months under an interim manager

[bots]

They need to get Amorin now if they want him, can't have another wasted few months under an interim manager

apparently it's imminent as they are paying a release clause

[MTVN]

RIP the Van Nistelrooy era 28 October - 28 October

[bots]

RIP the Van Nistelrooy era 28 October - 28 October

most successful united manager in over 10 years :laugh:

[GiRTh]

Amorin is a good shout. I think he turned Liverpool down not the other way round. Every one was after him a year ago and, if he implements his style, would do well at United.

On the other hand, its united :laugh: and up to 50% of that squad need to be looked at and difficult decisions need to be made about them. I'm talking Rashford, Bruno to start with and we'll take it from there

[GiRTh]

I want to post that Mourinho rant on football heritage again. The one where he says "Where they play, how they play, IF they play". I posted it too many times though. The next Man Utd need to able to get rid of big players, but who is a big enough name to do it

[bots]

Amorin is a good shout. I think he turned Liverpool down not the other way round. Every one was after him a year ago and, if he implements his style, would do well at United.

On the other hand, its united :laugh: and up to 50% of that squad need to be looked at and difficult decisions need to be made about them. I'm talking Rashford, Bruno to start with and we'll take it from there

there is an attitude problem with the senior players, they are paid too much money

[The Slim Reaper]

Amorin is a good shout. I think he turned Liverpool down not the other way round. Every one was after him a year ago and, if he implements his style, would do well at United.

On the other hand, its united :laugh: and up to 50% of that squad need to be looked at and difficult decisions need to be made about them. I'm talking Rashford, Bruno to start with and we'll take it from there

He didn't turn Liverpool down; he tried to use West Ham as leverage to speed LFC up, so we walked away. I think he's a good manager, and I wouldn't be surprised if the real reason we walked away is because we didn't want to spend any money to reshape the squad to his 3-4-3, rather than our traditional 4-3-3/-4-3-2-1.

[GiRTh]

He didn't turn Liverpool down; he tried to use West Ham as leverage to speed LFC up, so we walked away. I think he's a good manager, and I wouldn't be surprised if the real reason we walked away is because we didn't want to spend any money to reshape the squad to his 3-4-3, rather than our traditional 4-3-3/-4-3-2-1.Yeah you're right. I forgot West Ham were interested too

[MTVN]

He even travelled to London for talks then had to apologise over it, left himself looking a bit silly basically

He might well succeed but I can also see it being another disaster appointment

[GiRTh]

He even travelled to London for talks then had to apologise over it, left himself looking a bit silly basically

He might well succeed but I can also see it being another disaster appointmentAnyone who is not given Carte Blanche over the squad will be the same old story. Fans will say 'We're back' then they'll lose in Europe.

[GiRTh]

there is an attitude problem with the senior players, they are paid too much moneyThis is true, and it is probably the biggest problem at the club.

I remember when Arteta got rid of Ozil and then Aubameyang. Ozil I wasn't too fussed about but Aubameyang. I was spitting fire when he got rid of the then-top scorer.. It had to be done and he's been proved right.

With all the Man Utd fans around and pundits who are ex-United. Will they allow a no-name manager to do that kind of surgery on the squad? We wait and see but, at this time, I'm saying no.

[Zizu]

RIP the Van Nistelrooy era 28 October - 28 October


Imagine if he wins every game as caretaker manager….


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[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

Hopefully a Manager with a bit of charisma will be picked.

I'm sick of seeing Managers scowling in press conferences.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm honestly surprised this has taken so long for this to come about.
It's good he's gone but I hope they get someone who not only has a better plan but who can inspire the team too.
Because they are looking demoralised.

This.

[Mystic Mock]

Southgate would be interesting .

I think he should have won the last two or three international competitions with the talent at his disposal so pretty sure he would struggle with this United squad


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The "talent" for England couldn't beat Greece.

Southgate was the talent, not the players.

[Nicky91]

Imagine if he wins every game as caretaker manager….


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Van Nistelrooy is not a great head coach

he flopped big time at PSV, while he was amazing at the youth teams here




idk Amorim, but portuguese coaches have done quite well at the club, Mourinho but also the assistent to Sir Alex, Queiroz


hope he is completely different to ETH, coaching style wise

[Zizu]

Van Nistelrooy is not a great head coach

he flopped big time at PSV, while he was amazing at the youth teams here




idk Amorim, but portuguese coaches have done quite well at the club, Mourinho but also the assistent to Sir Alex, Queiroz


hope he is completely different to ETH, coaching style wise


I heard RVN won the league title twice !!!?


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[Zizu]

The "talent" for England couldn't beat Greece.

Southgate was the talent, not the players.


Behave


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[Zizu]

They need to get Amorin now if they want him, can't have another wasted few months under an interim manager


£10 million compensation fee agreed

Good to go

If the guy has courage he will take control now in time for the weekend game against Chelsea ..

If he has any sense he will sit this one out

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[bots]

It's now official, he is the new manager

[Nicky91]

I heard RVN won the league title twice !!!?


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in which universe?

[Zizu]

in which universe?


Someone mentioned it on the radio when RVN was being muted as the possible manager


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[Mystic Mock]

Behave


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I look at the facts, not what I wish were the case.

Southgate would've had England beat Greece.

[Zizu]

I look at the facts, not what I wish were the case.

Southgate would've had England beat Greece.


He was just experiencing though .. everyone was excused about playing all the flair players.

Sadly it didn’t quite work out ..

Didn’t we miss some easy chances and could have won ?

Southgate’s tactics were never top rated and that was shown in those major competition defeats


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[Mystic Mock]

He was just experiencing though .. everyone was excused about playing all the flair players.

Sadly it didn’t quite work out ..

Didn’t we miss some easy chances and could have won ?

Southgate’s tactics were never top rated and that was shown in those major competition defeats


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Greece had three goals disallowed against us.

Without Southgate as Manager we reverted back to being that team that loses to teams that are meant to be considerably weaker than us.

[Zizu]

Greece had three goals disallowed against us.

Without Southgate as Manager we reverted back to being that team that loses to teams that are meant to be considerably weaker than us.


Yeah but it was a nothing game with an interesting experiment that went wrong

He did what we all wanted Southgate to do and show a bit of courage

Look at all the times we played with two holding midfielders against absolute duffers


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[Mystic Mock]

Yeah but it was a nothing game with an interesting experiment that went wrong

He did what we all wanted Southgate to do and show a bit of courage

Look at all the times we played with two holding midfielders against absolute duffers


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If this England team with "amazing talent" can't play Greece off the park, then the team isn't as good as it's hyped up to be imo.

[Zizu]

If this England team with "amazing talent" can't play Greece off the park, then the team isn't as good as it's hyped up to be imo.


They simply weren’t prepared though if you recall …

He actually said “ we tried this set up for 20 minutes yesterday in training and decided to try it against Greece “

[Mystic Mock]

They simply weren’t prepared though if you recall …

He actually said “ we tried this set up for 20 minutes yesterday in training and decided to try it against Greece “

Tactics shouldn't even be an excuse with the players that England have in comparison to Greece.

If I'm being brutally honest.

[Alf]

Their two greatest ever managers and probably the two greatest managers in the English football league history, Sir Matt Busby and Sir Alex Ferguson. Both Scottish. So why not go for a Scotsman?

Steve Clarke or Big Duncan Ferguson.

[Zizu]

Tactics shouldn't even be an excuse with the players that England have in comparison to Greece.

If I'm being brutally honest.


I don’t know mate .. things are levelling up these days internationally.. only people like San Marino get whoopings

All the other teams are now well organised and super fit



Recently Greece won loads of games and drew with France and lost 1:0 to Holland and Spain


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[Alf]

A team like Manchester United don't need tactics. They can buy the best players. The best players don't need education on football tactics. They know how to play, that's why they're the best players.

They just need a good man-manager. Someone who can get the best out of them. Make them feel loved, happy and wanted.

Managing a top team like this is easy if you're a good man-manager rather than being tactical.

[Alf]

Do you think Guardiola ever gave Messi tactics on how to play football?

If he did, Messi wouldn't be dribbling by defenders at will. He'd be passing inside to keep possession.

[Alf]

Manchester United F'd'up getting rid of David Moyes too early.

It was always gonna be a long term project after the legacy Sir Alex left.

I have said for the nearly 20 years on this forum that Moyes is one of the best. You used to think that I was just bias because I am an Evertonian, but I know that MTVN would back me up now. Ain't that right MTVN?

What he did at both Everton and West Ham in this day and age of football, ruled by money was remarkable.

Sir Alex was very close to being sacked by Manchester United in his early days, but they gave him time and he created a dynasty.

[The Slim Reaper]

Their two greatest ever managers and probably the two greatest managers in the English football league history, Sir Matt Busby and Sir Alex Ferguson. Both Scottish. So why not go for a Scotsman?

Steve Clarke or Big Duncan Ferguson.

Bob Paisley is not Scottish. Shanks was though - the 2 greatest managers in league football history.

[Alf]

Bob Paisley is not Scottish. Shanks was though - the 2 greatest managers in league football history.You have a shout. Both greats. But Busby was more successful than Shankly and Ferguson was more successful than Paisley. Ferguson was more successful than anyone. He won 13 league champions I think.

[The Slim Reaper]

You have a shout. Both greats. But Busby was more successful than Shankly and Ferguson was more successful than Paisley. Ferguson was more successful than anyone. He won 13 league champions I think.

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[Alf]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0VA_9M7kjrpq8QtKRNwxPzCjj_VwOV-IRcQ&sBut Paisley took over from what Shankly built. Not discrediting Paisley''s achievements but Alex built what he achieved himself.

I always say that Kevin Keegan was the most important person in Liverpool's history. Shankly and Liverpool's greatest ever signing.

[The Slim Reaper]

But Paisley took over from what Shankly built. Not discrediting Paisley''s achievements but Alex built what he achieved himself.

I always say that Kevin Keegan was the most important person in Liverpool's history. Shankly and Liverpool's greatest ever signing.

3 European cups in 5 years (only british manager to do so), all started 4 years after he took over. I get that he was in a privileged position, but didn't ron atkinson finish 2nd the season before fergie took over?

[Alf]

3 European cups in 5 years (only british manager to do so), all started 4 years after he took over. I get that he was in a privileged position, but didn't ron atkinson finish 2nd the season before fergie took over?Manchester United had lost their greatness by the time Fergie took over. Liverpool were the clear number one club by that time. Everton had a little spell in the mid-eighties. But Manchester United hadn't won the league since 1967 before Fergie took over. Teams like Leeds, Derby and Nottingham Forest had took over Manchester United by then.

They won the odd FA cup, but they were still living on past reputation from the Busby era.

[Mystic Mock]

A team like Manchester United don't need tactics. They can buy the best players. The best players don't need education on football tactics. They know how to play, that's why they're the best players.

They just need a good man-manager. Someone who can get the best out of them. Make them feel loved, happy and wanted.

Managing a top team like this is easy if you're a good man-manager rather than being tactical.

I didn't know that these players were entering a marriage.

Most of the Man Utd players are divas imo, and lazy ones too.

Ten Hag's Football was terrible, and he had about as much charisma as a Zombie out of TWD.

But he is not the main issue at Man Utd, it's the players who can't respect any of their Managers post-Sir Alex.

[Mystic Mock]

I don’t know mate .. things are levelling up these days internationally.. only people like San Marino get whoopings

All the other teams are now well organised and super fit



Recently Greece won loads of games and drew with France and lost 1:0 to Holland and Spain


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But the draw was a poor showing from France imo.

[Alf]

I didn't know that these players were entering a marriage.

Most of the Man Utd players are divas imo, and lazy ones too.Not necessarily a marriage, more a family, a place to belong and feel wanted, where you're happy.

Same with any place of work. Some places, you don't enjoy it, so your effort to that job is innafective. Some jobs you feel at home and enjoy it and it brings the best out of you.

Top flight footballers don't need tactics, they just need to be in the right frame of mind. It's all in the head.

You modern football fans listen too much to the TV pundits, who are just there to talk nonsense for entertainment value.

[Mystic Mock]

Not necessarily a marriage, more a family, a place to belong and feel wanted, where you're happy.

Same with any place of work. Some places, you don't enjoy it, so your effort to that job is innafective. Some jobs you feel at home and enjoy it and it brings the best out of you.

Top flight footballers don't need tactics, they just need to be in the right frame of mind. It's all in the head.

I feel like it depends on the Footballer and Manager.

For example I doubt that Gerrard got on with every Liverpool Manager when he was a player, but he still always gave his very best for the club.

The same for Rooney at Man Utd.

Basically it comes down to professionalism imo, and it's something that the current Man Utd team just don't have.

[Mystic Mock]

Not necessarily a marriage, more a family, a place to belong and feel wanted, where you're happy.

Same with any place of work. Some places, you don't enjoy it, so your effort to that job is innafective. Some jobs you feel at home and enjoy it and it brings the best out of you.

Top flight footballers don't need tactics, they just need to be in the right frame of mind. It's all in the head.

You modern football fans listen too much to the TV pundits, who are just there to talk nonsense for entertainment value.

No offense, but isn't it the TV Pundits that talk about the players "needing to be loved?:laugh:"

[Alf]

No offense, but isn't it the TV Pundits that talk about the players "needing to be loved?:laugh:"No, they're just there because they're getting paid ridiculously money to sit on their backsides talking sh!te about football to any fool that will listen to them.

I talk sh!te about football for free, because I can't get paid for it.

[Mystic Mock]

No, they're just there because they're getting paid ridiculously money to sit on their backsides talk sh!te about football to any fool that will listen to them.

I talk sh!te about football for free, because I can't get paid for it.

Tbh both of us probably talk more sense than Jamie O'Hara or Agbonlahor.:laugh:

[Alf]

Tbh both of us probably talk more sense than Jamie O'Hara or Agbonlahor.:laugh:Funny you mention Jamie O'Hara, because just yesterday I saw a video clip on YouTube of him chatting with Jason Cundy Chatting about Neville Southall. And O'Hara didn't have a clue as 90 odd percent of the comments in the comments section clarified.

Cundy said that Southall is one of the greatest British keepers ever. Which is a fact. He was the best goalkeeper the World at his peak. Not many British Goalkeepers have been that. And O'Hara was totally dismissive of him. He got totally owned in the comments section, mainly by Liverpool fans who know just how good big Neville was.

[Mystic Mock]

Funny you mention Jamie O'Hara, because just yesterday I saw a video clip on YouTube of him chatting with Jason Cundy Chatting about Neville Southall. And O'Hara didn't have a clue as 90 odd percent of the comments in the comments section clarified.

Cundy said that Southall is one of the greatest British keepers ever. Which is a fact. He was the best goalkeeper the World at his peak. Not many British Goalkeepers have been that. And O'Hara was totally dismissive of him. He got totally owned in the comments section, mainly by Liverpool fans who know just how good big Neville was.

Even I know about him and I wasn't even born during his era.:joker:

[Zizu]

Imagine if he wins every game as caretaker manager….


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ManU 5 : Leicester 2

;)


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[bots]

Leicester put out their reserve team, so that scoreline is misleading to say the least :laugh:

[Beso]

What fergie did at Aberdeen is probably the greatest achievement in british football, maybe only matched by cloughie at Forrest.

[bots]

Amorim is not likely to take over at united until the international break, Ruud has a few games to show what he is about

[bots]

Now confirmed. Amorim joins united on 11th November.

[Mystic Mock]

Now confirmed. Amorim joins united on 11th November.

Can he at least look happy to be managing in the Premier League.:fc:

We've got so many Managers and players who scowl through interviews and press conferences.