What exactly is Nathan trying to say when he says he’s right-wing?

[Redway]

Should we be worried?

[blisstheassassin]

This thread brought me out of lurk mode.

Firstly I think that it's important to remember that not everybody who votes the same way, thinks the same way. For example I did vote Labour at the last election but I certainly didn't agree with all Daze's view points.

Also Nathan seems pretty well liked in the house so far and even people who obviously don't agree with him politically ie. Ali, Emma and Khalid seem quite fond of him. Even Daze and him didn't nominate each other in the first week despite their many debates ( I think they secretly enjoyed them).

To make a long story short I think it's wrong to assume the worst in someone.

[Mystic Mock]

I think with Nathan I'm going to guess that he probably wants more controlled immigration to be a priority in the country, and he is a big royalist (which the royals are incredibly popular with the right) plus he probably believes that the Tories will do better with the Economy and law & order.

Because I don't believe that Nathan is a racist.

[vesavius]

I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

[Ammi]

I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.


…this so much for me, also…no political side is good when it’s an extreme side…I’m not sure but I think Nathan’s eyebrow raised a bit when others said they were Labour supporters…I hope that he also has that stance of not judging on politics …I have to say that I’m glad there haven’t been too many politics chats also as it’s good to get away from that type of overload as well…

[joeysteele]

I voted the second option.

I feel he may be another who has more easily fallen for the spouting of Farage.
Because that's who he claims he admired in politics.

No, Nathan's not racist.
I'd like to hear more of his deeper thinking, not on BB though, I don't think BB viewers want too much of politics on BB.
However I found how he debated with Daze interesting because he seemed open to at least some of what she was saying.

There's nothing wrong with being right wing or left wing.
So his identifying as being right wing doesn't indicate anything really negative about him at all

[Ray.]

I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

This

[Vega]

Nathan when they asked him to justify the royal privilege he had nothing

[Crimson Dynamo]

rather silly and derisory options so i never voted

and a silly question as being right wing or left wing is not a complex issue to understand

[UserSince2005]

Hes trying to say hes better than the rest of em, which he is.

[Vicky.]

I have seen absolutely nothing to suggest he may be racist

[Cherie]

I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

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[Kazanne]

People trying to label Nathan,maybe just because he is a Tory, He has not shown any signs of racism at all, he seems to me to mix with them all and is enjoying his experience without any malice going on.I might be the only one but I like him.

[smudgie]

I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

Well said.
Mind I have no clue what he goes on about half the time,in general not his politics.

[Niamh.]

Very provocative wording there. It makes your Polls hard to vote in

[Oliver_W]

Should we be worried?

Worried about what? That someone we'll never meet might believe in smaller state and lower taxes?

The horror!


(I'm ignoring the poll because the options you give are always the "worst take" view of any opinion)

[jones89]

I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

Yeah. Homophobic would have probably been thrown in there too if it wasn’t Nathan :bored:

[bots]

if we are referring to the same conversation, it could be said that those voicing support for corbyn are the ones with a problem given he was an ex leader who was thrown out of the party for antisemitism

[BBXX]

I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

:clap1: I agree with this. In the past I have voted Tories and identified as centre-right mainly due to my economic stances, I do like small government and private ownership etc... socially, I would say I'm more centre-left and so each election I just feel politically homeless :laugh:

Nathan is the kind of right-wing that most people who are right wing are. I firmly believe 90% of the population sit between centre-right and centre-left and most live along one another harmoniously because there is often very little difference between the two, in the grand scheme of things.

[Niamh.]

:clap1: I agree with this. In the past I have voted Tories and identified as centre-right mainly due to my economic stances, I do like small government and private ownership etc... socially, I would say I'm more centre-left and so each election I just feel politically homeless :laugh:

Nathan is the kind of right-wing that most people who are right wing are. I firmly believe 90% of the population sit between centre-right and centre-left and most live along one another harmoniously because there is often very little difference between the two, in the grand scheme of things.

Absolutely

[GoldHeart]

As usual the poll doesn't have the right description,so I will not vote .

But I will say I think Nathan is a bit classist , he deffo pre judges people . I don't particularly think he's a nice guy if I'm honest. He's got a smugness to him, and a air of know it all syndrome.

He's a massive royalist,he probably thinks the sun shines out their backside.... he's also bias in that respect as he worked for Charles.

He has an ideology where he thinks the Tories will save Britain ,and get us all out the sh1tter , I personally think he's mistaken.

He slags down labour, whilst ignoring all the faults in the conservatives. We've had 15 years of huge embarrassing moments whilst in a Tory government,and Nathan brushes over that.

He arrogantly thinks his party is the right one . When in reality .... like Hanah was pointing out it's about the type of leader they appoint.

I don't think Nathan is racist , but he probably will believe any misinformation he's fed ...if he likes that particular leader or MP.

Nathan's main views seem to be economy, Royals & immigration control.

[Garfie]

He’s said he is Conservative. He believes in the main stance of a certain political party, but might not necessarily agree with every single policy. To me, it says no more than that, unless we choose to read more into it. We have to judge him for what he says and what he does, not according to which political party he supports, as that gives just an indication of what he thinks and who he is. It isn’t the full picture.

[vesavius]

:clap1: I agree with this. In the past I have voted Tories and identified as centre-right mainly due to my economic stances, I do like small government and private ownership etc... socially, I would say I'm more centre-left and so each election I just feel politically homeless :laugh:

Nathan is the kind of right-wing that most people who are right wing are. I firmly believe 90% of the population sit between centre-right and centre-left and most live along one another harmoniously because there is often very little difference between the two, in the grand scheme of things.

Agreed, and I feel the same regarding being politically homeless.

[Antinous]

Get Nathan out the disgusting little creep. First he targets Martha and now Dean.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Get Nathan out the disgusting little creep. First he targets Martha and now Dean.

Dean is a weasel and I'm afraid its not really up for debate


:shrug:

[Pinkwaves]

Nathan's speech about the Tories sorting themselves out was stupid. They were in power for 14 years and destroyed this country.

[GoldHeart]

Nathan's speech about the Tories sorting themselves out was stupid. They were in power for 14 years and destroyed this country.

Exactly,but he glosses over it .

[GoldHeart]

Agreed, and I feel the same regarding being politically homeless.

Oh I don't trust any of them , hence why I didn't vote just like Hanah :laugh: .

[Redway]

I mean, after last night, who knows? Who knows?

[GoldHeart]

Last night confirms exactly what I said, he's a jumped up lanky insensitive turd . With a ugly superiority complex. He's not interested in anything Khaled has to say .

He should have just stuck to the " vain looking at camera's" , reason for choosing Khaled's name. Going on about Khaled's political views about something that's very personal, involving his own family. Was just crossing a line. But Nathan is like Dean....both are unpleasant twat bags.

[Redway]

Seriously, that comment about Palestine was below the belt. No wonder Khaled’s a bit pissed.

[GoldHeart]

We're never going to see the old BP , she has no personality , she just sits makign silly facial expressions glued to Nathan. As he grabs her head .

[Beso]

We're never going to see the old BP , she has no personality , she just sits makign silly facial expressions glued to Nathan. As he grabs her head .


Tbf thats all she did before hooking up.

[GoldHeart]

Tbf thats all she did before hooking up.


Yeah but I think she acts alot more dense, silly and boring with Nathan, when she's around Sarah... like in the secret mission (granted it was a terrible mission), i think it did her good to be around someone else for a bit .

Her OTT facial expressions and goofy voice and Nathan is grabbing her for a kiss, is what she's memorable for now. and it's all a bit cringe.

[Redway]

Reddit seems to have the right measure of this privileged idiot.

[Mystic Mock]

Seriously, that comment about Palestine was below the belt. No wonder Khaled’s a bit pissed.

I can't blame Khaled for feeling that way either tbh.

[Redway]

I can't blame Khaled for feeling that way either tbh.

Very privileged, very naively ignorant, very disrespectful it was. If my thread was clutching at vague political straws when I first made it, it definitely isn’t now. Nathan’s a class-A twat half the time anyway.

[Redway]

Worried about what? That someone we'll never meet might believe in smaller state and lower taxes?

The horror!


(I'm ignoring the poll because the options you give are always the "worst take" view of any opinion)

This comment sure aged well.

Like I implied, I knew I was onto something. That Palenstine stuff was beyond out-of-pocket ignorance.

[Mystic Mock]

Very privileged, very naively ignorant, very disrespectful it was. If my thread was clutching at vague political straws when I first made it, it definitely isn’t now. Nathan’s a class-A twat half the time anyway.

I think that Nathan is an interesting Housemate personally.

But I do think that he is unpleasant sometimes.

[Oliver_W]

This comment sure aged well.

Like I implied, I knew I was onto something. That Palenstine stuff was beyond out-of-pocket ignorance.

He did make himself look a twat, to be fair.

BUT - you can be left wing and think he doesn't go on about Palestine enough :shrug: that particular twattery didn't have anything to do with being right wing.

[Redway]

He did make himself look a twat, to be fair.

BUT - you can be left wing and think he doesn't go on about Palestine enough :shrug: that particular twattery didn't have anything to do with being right wing.

It makes him look naively privileged and ignorant, which is definitely more of a right-wing associative. If he’s willing to go all Tracey-Ann Oberman (who obviously has deeper-seated reasons for her particular line of reasoning, as a Jewish woman), I just wonder what he says and thinks in private. Off the back of that comment it doesn’t look too good.

[Redway]

I think that Nathan is an interesting Housemate personally.

But I do think that he is unpleasant sometimes.

Yeah. He’s definitely not boring but he does have a vile side. Not saying he’s an out-and-out racist but he’s one of those middle-class white men who are painfully unaware of his societal privilege. That or he really is a complete-and-utter moron, and I don’t think he’s too stupid.

[Oliver_W]

It makes him look naively privileged and ignorant, which is definitely more of a right-wing associative.

Daze is naïve and ignorant, and she at least comes off as coming from a privileged background, and she's pretty left wing.

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah. He’s definitely not boring but he does have a vile side. Not saying he’s an out-and-out racist but he’s one of those middle-class white men who are painfully unaware of his societal privilege. That or he really is a complete-and-utter moron, and I don’t think he’s too stupid.

Nathan strikes me as an intelligent man, so I don't think that he is a moron.

And tbh I still think back to his comments about Martha's dress sense, it's the only time this series where Nathan made me feel uncomfortable watching him, as I don't really like people's appearance being attacked on national TV by a fellow competitor.

[Redway]

Daze is naïve and ignorant, and she at least comes off as coming from a privileged background, and she's pretty left wing.

That’s great but we’re not talking about Daze are we.

[Oliver_W]

That’s great but we’re not talking about Daze are we.

Well no, I was just pointing out that Nathan's (apparent) viewpoint ain't inherently right wing.

[Redway]

After what Nathan said about Palestine, he’s still banging on about Khaled being fake? Oh, the twat.

[Oliver_W]

After what Nathan said about Palestine, he’s still banging on about Khaled being fake? Oh, the twat.

Nah I'm not from Essex or East London, I just like saying AIN'T.

[vesavius]

After what Nathan said about Palestine, he’s still banging on about Khaled being fake? Oh, the twat.

what did he say?

[GoldHeart]

what did he say?

Did you not see the blood task a few days back? . He basically put Khaled on the spot ...over not being vocal enough over Palestine. He assumed Khaled would be discussing it with him. Nathan did it in a insensitive way imo.

Khaled confronted him afterwards,and said if he wants to actually talk about it then he will. But you can tell Nathan has no real effort or interest in discussing it with Khaled. He just wanted to prod Khaled for that particular task.

[vesavius]

Did you not see the blood task a few days back? . He basically put Khaled on the spot ...over not being vocal enough over Palestine. He assumed Khaled would be discussing it with him. Nathan did it in a insensitive way imo.

Khaled confronted him afterwards,and said if he wants to actually talk about it then he will. But you can tell Nathan has no real effort or interest in discussing it with Khaled. He just wanted to prod Khaled for that particular task.

Oh, ok, that, I see.

Yeah, I saw it but I thought that was a comment about Khaled not him saying something about Palestine. I just hadn't heard him express an opinion on the Middle East at all so got confused.