Segun’s sexuality

[Redway]

It goes without saying that anyone of any sexuality can be any sort of person and usually are frequently enough but at the same time it can hard to see someone’s radar as exclusively honed in on the opposite sex when they have certain suggestive mannerisms, and I do see them with Segun, with that slight-but-definite element of camp to half of what he says or does. I’m afraid this is gonna have to be another one of Redway’s polls but seriously, I’m just curious to hear what people think.

[Ray.]

Other than a lisp, I haven't noticed any stereotypical signifiers of homosexuality? :shrug:

[Cherie]

Other than a lisp, I haven't noticed any stereotypical signifiers of homosexuality? :shrug:

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and why are we speculating if he says he is straight?

[Niamh.]

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and why are we speculating if he says he is straight?

Exactly. The thread is in kind of poor taste

[Ammi]

…I don’t understand but camp is more an exaggerated’ personality, surely…and I don’t see that in Segun…I honestly don’t have any thoughts whatsoever about anyone’s sexuality or any questioning of anything so personal…

[BBXX]

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and why are we speculating if he says he is straight?

:clap1:

[vesavius]

I don't understand the speculation here at all.

This constant challenging of a person's stated sexuality is a bit weird... Why not just accept what a person says they are? Can you imagine if I was questioning if the gay lads in there were not really gay but just pretending to be in order to pander to a part of the viewer base? It would be called out instantly.

But, no... Camp, even if I saw that in him, does not mean gay.

[bots]

Segan can be whatever he wants to be. He isn't actively misrepresenting himself by having a fake showmance. To me, he is just a bloke trying to have fun in a trying environment

[Ammi]

I don't understand the speculation here at all.

This constant challenging of a person's stated sexuality is a bit weird... Why not just accept what a person says they are? Can you imagine if I was questioning if the gay lads in there were not really gay but just pretending to be in order to pander to a part of the viewer base? It would be called out instantly.

But, no... Camp, even if I saw that in him, does not mean gay.

…yeah, that’s it as well…that camp is more an exaggerated style that can apply to any sexuality…but it’s not something that could be applied to Segun’s character, though…

[thesheriff443]

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and why are we speculating if he says he is straight?

The same way Nathan and Ali have been questioned
It’s just another thread on this forum

And to be fair to redway we question pretty much everything

[thesheriff443]

I think he is just a bit of a mums boy on the outside
And he gets frightened easily or unerved like when Lilly screams

[Redway]

He just … I dunno. I dunno. There’s a certain campness (not a loud, blatantly exaggerated one, obviously) in how he talks and acts half the time. It’s not necessarily bursting out of him in open swathes but it’s there. He could be like that and straight, of course, but to me he just seems like he’s not quite straight, but only half the time. There’s a tendency to tonal camp in the way he talks (and not just because of his lisp) but it happens only occasionally rather than all the time.

[thesheriff443]

He just … I dunno. I dunno. There’s a certain campness (not a loud, blatantly exaggerated one, obviously) in how he talks and acts half the time. It’s not necessarily bursting out of him in open swathes but it’s there. He could be like that and straight, of course, but to me he just seems like he’s not quite straight, but only half the time. There’s a tendency to tonal camp in the way he talks (and not just because of his lisp) but it happens only occasionally rather than all the time.

I think men in this country and others are being watered down

Men walking round with babies strapped to them is an example

[bots]

the fact that he is a religious zealot is a far bigger red flag to me :laugh:

[Ray.]

I think men in this country and others are being watered down

Men walking round with babies strapped to them is an example

It does amuse me when people come down on the recent male casts of Big Brother, because the people doing the complaining are usually the exact sort of people who've made it so that these wishy washy, non-confrontational types are basically the only kind of men you're allowed to see on reality tv anymore.

The hysteria from some when Marcello took a surly attitude with Sarah. :hehe:

[Ammi]

He just … I dunno. I dunno. There’s a certain campness (not a loud, blatantly exaggerated one, obviously) in how he talks and acts half the time. It’s not necessarily bursting out of him in open swathes but it’s there. He could be like that and straight, of course, but to me he just seems like he’s not quite straight, but only half the time. There’s a tendency to tonal camp in the way he talks (and not just because of his lisp) but it happens only occasionally rather than all the time.

…it’s really that thing of speculating where speculating wasn’t required though, for me…I mean, whatever his sexuality anyway, doesn’t and wouldn’t change any interactions in the house or enlighten us about anything that is relevant…Marcello is ‘too masculine’…Segun is not quite enough masculine…it’s just too much and too unnecessary and too irrelevant , is my thought…

[vesavius]

…yeah, that’s it as well…that camp is more an exaggerated style that can apply to any sexuality…but it’s not something that could be applied to Segun’s character, though…

I have known plenty of effeminate camp men who are not gay.

It's the same as calling women that showed even the smallest masculine trait a lesbian.

[Ammi]

the fact that he is a religious zealot is a far bigger red flag to me :laugh:

…that doesn’t really raise any flags for me, I have to say…I know many pastors and very religious people of many faiths and they’re all completely different people whose religious faith/belief doesn’t impact their character etc in any negative way…

[thesheriff443]

…it’s really that thing of speculating where speculating wasn’t required though, for me…I mean, whatever his sexuality anyway, doesn’t and wouldn’t change any interactions in the house or enlighten us about anything that is relevant…Marcello is ‘too masculine’…Segun is not quite enough masculine…it’s just too much and too unnecessary and too irrelevant , is my thought…

But not everyone thinks or sees things the same way and questions about housemates and their interactions and intentions is what makes this forum continue to be active

[Ammi]

I have known plenty of effeminate camp men who are not gay.

It's the same as calling women that showed even the smallest masculine trait a lesbian.

…yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking about the comparison with a female and saying…’oh, they seem ‘butch’, let’s question the sexuality as well…’…


…but yeah, I think that we all know ‘camp’ in exaggerated/flamboyant behaviour but that’s a very outdated stereotyping, I think in terms of linking it to ‘gay’…I mean, I can’t say for certain but I have read that some gay guys even watch football in these modern times… an you imagine…?…how crazy is that to think…

[BBXX]

I think men in this country and others are being watered down

Men walking round with babies strapped to them is an example

Oh no! A father carrying their child while simultaneously wanting to keep their hands free. :fist:

[thesheriff443]

Oh no! A father carrying their child while simultaneously wanting to keep their hands free. :fist:

It’s goes deeper than that I’m afraid

[thesheriff443]

I think Sarah let herself down by saying all men have to do is pump pump squirt

You can be a sperm donor or you can be a real man and a father to your children

[Mystic Mock]

He is probably metrosexual or whatever it was that David Beckham called himself back in the day.

[Beso]

the fact that he is a religious zealot is a far bigger red flag to me :laugh:


how on earth is he a zealot, hes probably the most tolerant person in the house and you dont see him forcing his religion on anyone.

But yeah, let's all laugh at him for being religious.

[Mystic Mock]

I think men in this country and others are being watered down

Men walking round with babies strapped to them is an example

Isn't a Father who's actively looking after his child meant to be a good masculine trait?

[Redway]

the fact that he is a religious zealot is a far bigger red flag to me :laugh:

Obviously not that much if he’s celebrating Halloween.

Again and again, I know and I know that gay and bisexual men come in all different shapes, sizes and can be from any walk of life, be-they your average builder Joe, your Atlanta rapper on the down-low, your lecturer, your scally lads and your calculating businessmen. Whoever. Whatever. The only difference between them and other blokes is the fact that they like other blokes sexually. You absolutely can’t always (or even most of the time, most-probably) tell someone’s sexuality in how they behave but certain signs are suggestive of being on the LGBT spectrum and I do see a bir of that with Shegz. I’m not boxing him into a pigeon-hole by any means but it’s just the way he talks and his mannerisms sometimes. There’s a bit of camp affectation to it sometimes. That’s all where I’m coming from. I’m not making generalisations. I’m just pointing out what I occasionally observe in Shegun, and I mustn’t be the only one. It’s not even about masculinity (which to an extent is a social construct and one that varies in certain fundamental ways over time). I just find that camp lisping very, very suggestive. It doesn’t sound like just speech-impediment lisping. Not to me.

[BBXX]

It’s goes deeper than that I’m afraid

Tell me more...

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[thesheriff443]

Isn't a Father who's actively looking after his child meant to be a good masculine trait?

These so called men are more feminine than their partners

Skinny twig like men

[Mystic Mock]

I have known plenty of effeminate camp men who are not gay.

It's the same as calling women that showed even the smallest masculine trait a lesbian.

I'll be honest I did wonder about Makensy off the last American BBUSA.

But then she had an odd infatuation with her Brother, so unfortunately I might be wrong.:laugh:

I'm just kidding, I don't think that Makensy would really hookup with her Brother.

[thesheriff443]

Tell me more...

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That’s in a film darling

[BBXX]

I think Sarah let herself down by saying all men have to do is pump pump squirt

You can be a sperm donor or you can be a real man and a father to your children

In her defence they were just talking about what it takes to give life, rather than raising a child.

[bots]

how on earth is he a zealot, hes probably the most tolerant person in the house and you dont see him forcing his religion on anyone.

But yeah, let's all laugh at him for being religious.

of course he is a zealot, that's why he always has that unnatural smile on his face all the time

[Mystic Mock]

These so called men are more feminine than their partners

Skinny twig like men

I do feel sorry for the neutered types, where all traces of masculinity has been forcibly removed from them.

But I don't personally believe that a Father having his baby strapped to him, is something to call emasculated basically.

To me it shows that he is a caring Dad, which I view as someone that is mature and has a trait that the Wife is also looking for in her Husband.

[Beso]

Obviously not that much if he’s celebrating Halloween.

Again and again, I know and I know that gay and bisexual men come in all different shapes, sizes and can be from any walk of life, be-they your average builder Joe, your Atlanta rapper on the down-low, your lecturer, your scally lads and your calculating businessmen. Whoever. Whatever. The only difference between them and other blokes is the fact that they like other blokes sexually. You absolutely can’t always (or even most of the time, most-probably) tell someone’s sexuality in how they behave but certain signs are suggestive of being on the LGBT spectrum and I do see a bir of that with Shegz. I’m not boxing him into a pigeon-hole by any means but it’s just the way he talks and his mannerisms sometimes. There’s a bit of camp affectation to it sometimes. That’s all where I’m coming from. I’m not making generalisations. I’m just pointing out what I occasionally observe in Shegun, and I mustn’t be the only one. It’s not even about masculinity (which to an extent is a social construct and one that varies in certain fundamental ways over time). I just find that camp lisping very, very suggestive. It doesn’t sound like just speech-impediment lisping. Not to me.



How gay did you rate chris eubank and Mike Tyson?

[BBXX]

That’s in a film darling

I was making a light-hearted joke so I didn't go into a rant about how snowflakey it is to judge someone's masculinity on how they carry their child. :wavey:

[Ammi]

He just … I dunno. I dunno. There’s a certain campness (not a loud, blatantly exaggerated one, obviously) in how he talks and acts half the time. It’s not necessarily bursting out of him in open swathes but it’s there. He could be like that and straight, of course, but to me he just seems like he’s not quite straight, but only half the time. There’s a tendency to tonal camp in the way he talks (and not just because of his lisp) but it happens only occasionally rather than all the time.

…gosh, that’s an awful lot of pressure and ‘requirement’ to put on someone, Redway…to have that box tick of who they are…’ok, you don’t meet all of the requirements of you, so we’re going to put you on the pending pile for the moment’…I mean, I’m not entirely serious in that wording I know…but what it’s essentially saying is…that more masculinity is required please otherwise we won’t accept your sexuality…(…and what relevance is it whether anyone does or not…)…but then, oh Marcello…that’s too much masculinity…so now you’re on the toxic pile…honestly, it’s is society not judgemental enough without this type of stereotyping and pondering who someone would be attracted to…

[Beso]

of course he is a zealot, that's why he always has that unnatural smile on his face all the time

I've looked up the meaning of religious zealot and he bares no traits that are associated with it

[bots]

I've looked up the meaning of religious zealot and he bares no traits that are associated with it

well i think he does :laugh:

[thesheriff443]

I was making a light-hearted joke so I didn't go into a rant about how snowflakey it is to judge someone's masculinity on how they carry their child. :wavey:

It’s called not being afraid to have an opinion that might offend others

Some men run towards the screams
Some men run away from them
I’m happy knowing which way I run.

[Mystic Mock]

…gosh, that’s an awful lot of pressure and ‘requirement’ to put on someone, Redway…to have that box tick of who they are…’ok, you don’t meet all of the requirements of you, so we’re going to put you on the pending pile for the moment’…I mean, I’m not entirely serious in that wording I know…but what it’s essentially saying is…that more masculinity is required please otherwise we won’t accept your sexuality…(…and what relevance is it whether anyone does or not…)…but then, oh Marcello…that’s too much masculinity…so now you’re on the toxic pile…honestly, it’s is society not judgemental enough without this type of stereotyping and pondering who someone would be attracted to…

The uncomfortable truth is that people are always going to stereotype.

I don't think that Redway is asking this in a malicious way either, I just think that he has a hunch on Segun's sexuality, and he is curious to know if other people feel the same.

I personally don't see the issue with that, but I understand if anyone feels differently.

[UserSince2005]

defo gay, already called it how it is in another thread. i have the best gaydar, its never wrong.

[Ammi]

The uncomfortable truth is that people are always going to stereotype.

I don't think that Redway is asking this in a malicious way either, I just think that he has a hunch on Segun's sexuality, and he is curious to know if other people feel the same.

I personally don't see the issue with that, but I understand if anyone feels differently.

…yeah I completely understand and agree that there is no malicious in Redway…that isn’t a suggestion at all…but when someone has indicated their sexuality specifically, which Segun has…it’s not something we generally would question either in terms of having a ‘hunch’….oh, you got that wrong, Segun…you’re not heterosexual, actually…do you see…?…

[Mystic Mock]

…yeah I completely understand and agree that there is no malicious in Redway…that isn’t a suggestion at all…but when someone has indicated their sexuality specifically, which Segun has…it’s not something we generally would question either in terms of having a ‘hunch’….oh, you got that wrong, Segun…you’re not heterosexual, actually…do you see…?…

I get what you're saying, and personally I wouldn't do it.

But I feel like this thread for Segun is more respectful in comparison to some people keep saying that Ali fancies Marcello or Khaled.

[Beso]

I get what you're saying, and personally I wouldn't do it.

But I feel like this thread for Segun is more respectful in comparison to some people keep saying that Ali fancies Marcello or Khaled.

Shes soaking wet for the pair of them.:smug:

[Ammi]

I get what you're saying, and personally I wouldn't do it.

But I feel like this thread for Segun is more respectful in comparison to some people keep saying that Ali fancies Marcello or Khaled.

…I’m not sure how ‘respectful’ could/would be applied to an unnecessary questioning of someone’s stated sexuality tbh…and the questioning has no foundation/relevance, anyway…and yeah, questioning wat Ali has stated is ‘equal’…not more than or less than…anyway, I’m so on the drag as I have to be somewhere so I’ll have to leave it all here…

[Mystic Mock]

Shes soaking wet for the pair of them.:smug:

Who isn't.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

…I’m not sure how ‘respectful’ could/would be applied to an unnecessary questioning of someone’s stated sexuality tbh…and the questioning has no foundation/relevance, anyway…and yeah, questioning wat Ali has stated is ‘equal’…not more than or less than…anyway, I’m so on the drag as I have to be somewhere so I’ll have to leave it all here…

I like that this thread is having a poll attached to it, so that we can all have our say as well.

I feel like the Ali being "secretly straight" stuff gets stated as a fact, which I just personally don't like.

See you later Ammi, I hope that you have a great day.:wavey:

[Niamh.]

I think men in this country and others are being watered down

Men walking round with babies strapped to them is an example

What a weird statement

[Niamh.]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Ray.]

A good opening to a Bond movie would be a suicide bomber who's got a baby doll strapped to his chest, that's secretly filled with explosives.

He pulls the dummy out of its mouth and BAM - the whole of Savile Row is ablaze.

[smudgie]

I see Segun as a very kind and amicable young man.
Mild mannered and thoughtful.
Not sure if I would call him camp.:shrug:

[vesavius]

I see Segun as a very kind and amicable young man.
Mild mannered and thoughtful.
Not sure if I would call him camp.:shrug:

Yeah, I don't see it either.

[Black Dagger]

I don’t care for him enough either way to care where he puts his piece

[Liam-]

Camp doesn’t mean gay

[GoldHeart]

I'm going to bookmark this thread ,when people cry about Ali's sexuality being mocked . That is all :idc: .

[Swan]

Christ, i've just got done watching last nights HL show and L&L, and what Redway took from that INSANE episode is - Is Seegan gay? :joker:

[Cherie]

The same way Nathan and Ali have been questioned
It’s just another thread on this forum

And to be fair to redway we question pretty much everything

Nathan said he doesn't want to put a label on it, and Ali has had previous relatonships with men, and no we dont question everything, we are not questioning if Lily is a closet Lesbian because she spends all her time with Ali :shrug:

[thesheriff443]

Nathan said he doesn't want to put a label on it, and Ali has had previous relatonships with men, and no we dont question everything, we are not questioning if Lily is a closet Lesbian because she spends all her time with Ali :shrug:

Calm down Cherie
We question nearly everything
Nathan doesn’t put a label on it but you call him a gay man

[Cherie]

Calm down Cherie
We question nearly everything
Nathan doesn’t put a label on it but you call him a gay man

oh now its nearly everything?

why are you asking me to calm down? I merely replied to your post :laugh:

I think you should calm down

[Cherie]

Christ, i've just got done watching last nights HL show and L&L, and what Redway took from that INSANE episode is - Is Seegan gay? :joker:

Right :laugh: maybe it was the way he tried to get the Villagers to change their minds about letting the smokers in

[GoldHeart]

Right :laugh: maybe it was the way he tried to get the Villagers to change their minds about letting the smokers in

What by being calm & soothing ? , yep definitely .

[thesheriff443]

oh now its nearly everything?

why are you asking me to calm down? I merely replied to your post :laugh:

I think you should calm down

Clearly nit picking

[bots]

oh now its nearly everything?

why are you asking me to calm down? I merely replied to your post :laugh:

I think you should calm down

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