Dean getting cut off by AJ and Will after saying Marcello made homophobic comments.

[Black Dagger]

Is one of Marcello’s parents on the production team or something? Literally nothing can be said about this man.

All series AJ and Will have defended him at every opportunity they can.

I’d have loved to have heard what was supposedly said!

[jones89]

Yeah if he actually said anything.. i’m sure if he had, he would be out the house. Meanwhile Dean’s rant about Marcello’s masculinity was quite brutal and nasty and… heterophobic

[Black Dagger]

Heterophobia literally is not a thing.

[GoldHeart]

Heterophobia literally is not a thing.

So his comments on both Sarah & Marcello were completely ok ? .

[Black Dagger]

So his comments on both Sarah & Marcello were completely ok ? .

Where did I say that? I think his comments about Sarah were disgusting.

[bots]

i think dean will happily make crap up on the spot. If marcello had been homophobic he would have been out on is ass

[FromBB8]

Ironic calling out production protecting Marcello, considering every Late and Live is more supportive of Lily than her appreciation thread on here.

As for the homophobic accusation, production really need to reveal what happened. If he said it, he needs to be dealt with. If he didn't, then he deserves to have his name cleared.

[Black Dagger]

He’s made gross and abhorrent comments for 3 weeks that don’t get called out so it’d hardly surprise me.

Dean is obviously a bitter and angry person but he should have at least been allowed to have say what was said without AJ cutting him off.

[GoldHeart]

i think dean will happily make crap up on the spot. If marcello had been homophobic he would have been out on is ass

Exactly
Dean is a professional victim,and a hypocrite . It seems perfectly fine for him to be vile and nasty . He's bin juice ! .

[Lister of Smeg]

Dean's making it up. Unhinged weirdo that boy :idc:

[Lostie!]

As for the homophobic accusation, production really need to reveal what happened. If he said it, he needs to be dealt with. If he didn't, then he deserves to have his name cleared.

See, now this is a much better take than the people just saying "nah he's making it up". Anyone who actually objects to homophobia would want to know if it actually happened rather than instantly dismissing it just because the one being accused is someone you like. That being someone's instant response says everything

[Swan]

Ill wait and see what Dean says on SM before commenting. I didn't even hear what he said about during the interview because i was zoning out, he's just such a hateful person.

[rusticgal]

Heterophobia literally is not a thing.


So was it ok for him to say a masculine man is everything he hates in the outside world….

What if Marcello had said that about an effeminate man…:shrug:

[jones89]

Heterophobia literally is not a thing.

Oh but it literally is. Could you imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and Marcello was going on about Dean being feminine? The pitchforks would have been out… again

[Cherie]

i think dean will happily make crap up on the spot. If marcello had been homophobic he would have been out on is ass

.

[rusticgal]

Ill wait and see what Dean says on SM before commenting. I didn't even hear what he said about during the interview because i was zoning out, he's just such a hateful person.


It’s no wonder Dean got on so well with Ali…they both talk utter shite and contradict themselves constantly.

[Black Dagger]

Oh but it literally is. Could you imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and Marcello was going on about Dean being feminine? The pitchforks would have been out… again

Going on about toxic masculinity isn’t heterophobia ffs. People are not discriminated against for being straight.

[Jordan.]

homophobic but wouldn't have nominated him next week

[Lister of Smeg]

Going on about toxic masculinity isn’t heterophobia ffs. People are not discriminated against for being straight.

Exactly what a hetrophobe would say tbh :nono:

[thesheriff443]

The bloke is just bitter and twisted and the viewers got a chance to see that a few times that’s why he has been evicted

[Black Dagger]

Exactly what a hetrophobe would say tbh :nono:

You got me x

[Lostie!]

So was it ok for him to say a masculine man is everything he hates in the outside world….

What if Marcello had said that about an effeminate man…:shrug:

Effeminate isn't exclusively the same thing as gay, just as masculine isn't the same as straight. It's quite clear to anyone paying attention that Dean dislikes guys who are excessively masculine, not straight guys in general. Trying to suggest that viewpoint is on par with homophobia is an absolutely wild reach

Just like if Marcello said he didn't like effeminate guys, that wouldn't be homophobic because effeminate doesn't equate to being gay, there's plenty of effeminate straight men and masculine gay men.

[Swan]

homophobic but wouldn't have nominated him next week

Yeah can't remember who said, but when asked if he was still in the house next week and who would have nominated, it was Sarah, or Marcello strangely enough.

[Black Dagger]

Effeminate isn't exclusively the same thing as gay, just as masculine isn't the same as straight. It's quite clear to anyone paying attention that Dean dislikes guys who are excessively masculine, not straight guys in general. Trying to suggest that viewpoint is on par with homophobia is an absolutely wild reach

Just like if Marcello said he didn't like effeminate guys, that wouldn't be homophobic because effeminate doesn't equate to being gay, there's plenty of effeminate straight men and masculine gay men.

Thank god we have somebody who talks sense on this forum!

[rusticgal]

Effeminate isn't exclusively the same thing as gay, just as masculine isn't the same as straight. It's quite clear to anyone paying attention that Dean dislikes guys who are excessively masculine, not straight guys in general. Trying to suggest that viewpoint is on par with homophobia is an absolutely wild reach

Just like if Marcello said he didn't like effeminate guys, that wouldn't be homophobic because effeminate doesn't equate to being gay, there's plenty of effeminate straight men and masculine gay men.


I’m sorry Lostie…no matter how you break it down if Marcello had used that language it would have been offensive to Dean and many men in touch with their feminine side.

[Benjamin]

homophobic but wouldn't have nominated him next week

Yeah right. I know marcello can be crass but I feel like he would have been called out for homophobia before now, especially by Dean. Dean threw out so many instant vile profanities about people and sees no wrong in how he spoke to people like Sarah, that he defo would have called Marcello out before this.

[bots]

in Deans chat in the diary room, he knew he had messed up big time, he then went out of there and doubled down on it all :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Dean is just full of sh1t and is bitter he's been evicted. I can't wait to watch it back :cheer2::dance: .

If Marcello said anything ,then BB would have pulled him up for it. Making false accusations like that is serious.. just shows yet again,what a vile twat Dean is . Notice it's fine for him to insult others though?, he needs to have accountability. What a horrible little man.

[bots]

To me, this all happened because he couldn't have a puff. He had a lot of pent up vitriol that he just couldn't keep in check any longer so he let loose. None of what he said was probably true, he just basically disliked Sarah because she enjoyed a laugh with Marcello, and Dean didn't like others having a bit of fun

[Black Dagger]

I’m assuming we’re not allowed to insult FB moms as post got removed?

Just want to clarify so I know not to say it again. :laugh:

Oh they just make the rules up as they go along on here. Just say what you have to say and hope for the best x

[Lostie!]

Dean is just full of sh1t and is bitter he's been evicted. I can't wait to watch it back :cheer2::dance: .

If Marcello said anything ,then BB would have pulled him up for it. Making false accusations like that is serious.. just shows yet again,what a vile twat Dean is . Notice it's fine for him to insult others though?, he needs to have accountability. What a horrible little man.

We don't know they didn't though.

[Benjamin]

Oh they just make the rules up as they go along on here. Just say what you have to say and hope for the best x

No it was me looking in the wrong thread :joker:

[bots]

No it was me looking in the wrong thread :joker:

conspiracies are all around us :laugh:

[Black Dagger]

This is the show that covered up Helen Wood having about 300 warnings and ejecting people left right and centre and keeping us in the dark. I don’t know why it’s shocking to think Marcello might have said stuff

[Mystic Mock]

I would've liked to know what was said as well.

[Mystic Mock]

Where did I say that? I think his comments about Sarah were disgusting.

And Marcello surely?

[GoldHeart]

We don't know they didn't though.

All this has done unfortunately ,is cause a whole " no smoke without fire " nonsense . when Dean is about as reliable as a paper roof in a monsoon. I take everything he says with a pinch of salt, especially when he's had it in for both Sarah & Marcello. This is the same nutter that mocked Sarah rolled his eyes ,and got personal about her voice & shoes ... like seriously!? . The guy is unhinged.

[Benjamin]

This is the show that covered up Helen Wood having about 300 warnings and ejecting people left right and centre and keeping us in the dark. I don’t know why it’s shocking to think Marcello might have said stuff

Because it’s only come from Dean who has shown he’s a liar, bitter man and a hypocrite.

[bots]

This is the show that covered up Helen Wood having about 300 warnings and ejecting people left right and centre and keeping us in the dark. I don’t know why it’s shocking to think Marcello might have said stuff

it may be true, but after the crap Dean has come out with recently and his obvious anger issues, he doesn't come across as being the most credible witness. I'm sure plenty other hm's would have had something to say if there had been homophobic slurs, they have pulled Marcello up on everything else he has said

[Black Dagger]

And Marcello surely?

Nope all valid I’m afraid bc I’m a massive man hater.

[Jordan.]

The show hardly has a good history with media controversies. I'd rather the producers be brushing some unsavoury comments under the carpet than it's future being put at risk again.

[moon_peach]

Heterophobia literally is not a thing.

Thank you!

[moon_peach]

Dean is just full of sh1t and is bitter he's been evicted. I can't wait to watch it back :cheer2::dance: .

If Marcello said anything ,then BB would have pulled him up for it. Making false accusations like that is serious.. just shows yet again,what a vile twat Dean is . Notice it's fine for him to insult others though?, he needs to have accountability. What a horrible little man.

I don’t see why BB would call him out on it? They don’t seem to have called him for his misogynistic comments

[Black Dagger]

Thank you!

You are more than welcome moon peach x

[vesavius]

Twitter is going to war based on this :joker:

But, yeah... Dean sees everyone who isn't a screaming queen to be 'toxic' and 'homophobic'.

There is no way the left leaning ultra progressive BB production team allowed homophobia to fly in there. Marcello would have been ejected just like Emma was once for saying the N word that time.

It's just Dean lashing out.

[GoldHeart]

And Marcello surely?

Marcello is evil don't forget, Vlad the Impaler himself....would be shocked to the core.

[Black Dagger]

Marcello is evil don't forget, Vlad the Impaler himself....would be shocked to the core.

I mean Id never call Marcello evil bc reality telly contestants being called evil is one of my biggest pet hates. I’ve seen Ali be called it all series and it’s just really exhausting when there are actually monsters in society x

[Jordan.]

Twitter is going to war based on this :joker:

But, yeah... Dean sees everyone who isn't a screaming queen to be 'toxic' and 'homophobic'.

There is no way the left leaning ultra progressive BB production team allowed homophobia to fly in there. Marcello would have been ejected just like Emma was once for saying the N word that time.

It's just Dean lashing out.

He probably said something surface level that Dean took offense over, but still not enough to nominate him over Nathan who hasn't looked him in the eye for a couple of days.

[GoldHeart]

Twitter is going to war based on this :joker:

But, yeah... Dean sees everyone who isn't a screaming queen to be 'toxic' and 'homophobic'.

There is no way the left leaning ultra progressive BB production team allowed homophobia to fly in there. Marcello would have been ejected just like Emma was once for saying the N word that time.

It's just Dean lashing out.

:clap1:

They showed the whole " teabags & period " comment,I doubt they'd hide anything else ,and if it's more than 1 comment....as Dean is alleging with plural " comments",it's definitely going to get flagged up . It's interesting...Sarah is fine with Marcello,this 'terrible
monster' :whistle: .

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Even Martha said he ain't homophobic.

The fact Dean wouldn't have nominated him just sums it up, dean is a lying bitter piece of **** and the only people who believe him are lili and Ali fans

[rusticgal]

Dean is a liar…even in his interview one minute he said he exaggerated his comments about Sarah to get more blood and when AJ pulled him up on the fact he repeated it to her in the living room he said “cos I speak the truth…” :laugh:…

AJ and Will were speechless…

[Mystic Mock]

Nope all valid I’m afraid bc I’m a massive man hater.

:laugh:

[jones89]

Effeminate isn't exclusively the same thing as gay, just as masculine isn't the same as straight. It's quite clear to anyone paying attention that Dean dislikes guys who are excessively masculine, not straight guys in general. Trying to suggest that viewpoint is on par with homophobia is an absolutely wild reach

Just like if Marcello said he didn't like effeminate guys, that wouldn't be homophobic because effeminate doesn't equate to being gay, there's plenty of effeminate straight men and masculine gay men.

Yeah i’m with you. But you just KNOW that in the world we live in today, Marcello making comments about not liking feminine guys would be labelled “homophobic” 100%

[Mystic Mock]

I don’t see why BB would call him out on it? They don’t seem to have called him for his misogynistic comments

It depends on if you think Marcello is actually making Misogynistic comments.

I would personally argue that his humour is not very politically correct, but I wouldn't necessarily say that he is Misogynistic.

Unless most of the female Housemates liking him are wrong, and Ali is correct?

[Mystic Mock]

Marcello is evil don't forget, Vlad the Impaler himself....would be shocked to the core.

:laugh:

[moon_peach]

It depends on if you think Marcello is actually making Misogynistic comments.

I would personally argue that his humour is not very politically correct, but I wouldn't necessarily say that he is Misogynistic.

Unless most of the female Housemates liking him are wrong, and Ali is correct?

I would say they are misogynistic comments and I don’t think that’s really up for debate. (The most egregious example imo is the way he treated Sarah during the roast chicken debacle - both the ‘you’re a vegan and your PH levels are probably off’ comment and the way he shooed her away to dismiss her. Oh and ‘you smell like period and tea bags.’ Often when he’s irritated by a female housemate he resorts to sexist comments.)

These things are complex. I think often people think that prejudice isn’t there unless someone’s actively saying **** like ‘men are superior to women’ or ‘homosexuality is wrong’, but it can be - and usually is - more subtle than that. We all grow up internalising prejudice and have internal biases (unless we unlearn them either purposefully or by being exposed to different ideas). That doesn’t mean female housemates can’t like him. I often like him and find him entertaining. I can still acknowledge that he makes misogynistic comments sometimes. I imagine if he is making homophobic comments it’s probably in like with his sexist comments - nothing absolutely god awful, but still coming from a homophobic place. He strikes me as someone who means well but has a lot of sexism he needs to unlearn.

[vesavius]

Dean is a liar…even in his interview one minute he said he exaggerated his comments about Sarah to get more blood and when AJ pulled him up on the fact he repeated it to her in the living room he said “cos I speak the truth…” :laugh:…

AJ and Will were speechless…

This actually does sound like a L&L I need to watch :laugh:

[vesavius]

He probably said something surface level that Dean took offense over, but still not enough to nominate him over Nathan who hasn't looked him in the eye for a couple of days.

Basically, if you arent Quentin Crisp Dean thinks you are a toxic straight hyper-masculine male.

[Mystic Mock]

I would say they are misogynistic comments and I don’t think that’s really up for debate. (The most egregious example imo is the way he treated Sarah during the roast chicken debacle - both the ‘you’re a vegan and your PH levels are probably off’ comment and the way he shooed her away to dismiss her. Oh and ‘you smell like period and tea bags.’ Often when he’s irritated by a female housemate he resorts to sexist comments.)

These things are complex. I think often people think that prejudice isn’t there unless someone’s actively saying **** like ‘men are superior to women’ or ‘homosexuality is wrong’, but it can be - and usually is - more subtle than that. We all grow up internalising prejudice and have internal biases (unless we unlearn them either purposefully or by being exposed to different ideas). That doesn’t mean female housemates can’t like him. I often like him and find him entertaining. I can still acknowledge that he makes misogynistic comments sometimes. I imagine if he is making homophobic comments it’s probably in like with his sexist comments - nothing absolutely god awful, but still coming from a homophobic place. He strikes me as someone who means well but has a lot of sexism he needs to unlearn.

I can see what you're saying, and I agree with you on some of your points tbf.

Especially the Chicken thing with Sarah, I know that I keep batting for Sarah, but Marcello did annoy me with his "it's just banter" line as it screamed douchebag to me in that moment.

[UserSince2005]

Heterophobia literally is not a thing.

it is, im proper hetrophobic, i think breeding it disgusting.

[Beso]

it is, im proper hetrophobic, i think breeding it disgusting.

Just grin and bare it, you wont get pregnant.

[Mystic Mock]

it is, im proper hetrophobic, i think breeding it disgusting.

:joker:

[GoldHeart]

Dean is the type to make snap judgements of others, whilst behaving exactly like the narrow minded bigot he claims to not like on the outside world. He's a toxic hateful
hypocrite .


And i'm glad Danny especially called him out for his BS on L&L . A guy who's masculine is not automatically a negative thing. Marcello summed Dean & Ali up to a tea in the DR . Marcello just keeps coming up as the more intelligent bigger person to me , every time.

[Beso]

Just watched the interview..

Dont know what all the fuss is about..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Twitter is going to war based on this :joker:

But, yeah... Dean sees everyone who isn't a screaming queen to be 'toxic' and 'homophobic'.

There is no way the left leaning ultra progressive BB production team allowed homophobia to fly in there. Marcello would have been ejected just like Emma was once for saying the N word that time.

It's just Dean lashing out.

this

[MTVN]

I would say they are misogynistic comments and I don’t think that’s really up for debate. (The most egregious example imo is the way he treated Sarah during the roast chicken debacle - both the ‘you’re a vegan and your PH levels are probably off’ comment and the way he shooed her away to dismiss her. Oh and ‘you smell like period and tea bags.’ Often when he’s irritated by a female housemate he resorts to sexist comments.)

These things are complex. I think often people think that prejudice isn’t there unless someone’s actively saying **** like ‘men are superior to women’ or ‘homosexuality is wrong’, but it can be - and usually is - more subtle than that. We all grow up internalising prejudice and have internal biases (unless we unlearn them either purposefully or by being exposed to different ideas). That doesn’t mean female housemates can’t like him. I often like him and find him entertaining. I can still acknowledge that he makes misogynistic comments sometimes. I imagine if he is making homophobic comments it’s probably in like with his sexist comments - nothing absolutely god awful, but still coming from a homophobic place. He strikes me as someone who means well but has a lot of sexism he needs to unlearn.

Good post. We do know Marcello has made some offensive comments but we also know that Dean is wildly judgemental, sees the worst in people and infers major negative things from mild actions.

If Marcello had said anything seriously homophobic it would be very difficult to cover it up and other housemates will mention it. It will all come out in the wash either way.

[Cal.]

The most offensive thing I found about that interview wasn’t even this it was just how shite AJ & Will are at their jobs. Sack ‘em!

[Vicky.]

Wonder what he apparently said

[Ammi]

…it’s strange that if he had made comments that it’s never been mentioned in the nominations as a reason…or indeed that it feels as though he hasn’t been nominated that much…

[GoldHeart]

Wonder what he apparently said

He probably said " Do you want some food I cooked Dean"

And Dean probably said " yea mate " ,then he twisted it in his mind to be homophobic .

Dean goes out of his way to be offended, obviously I've used a silly example with cooking food ....but I wouldn't be surprised if it's something as mundane and silly as that. He even admitted to lying about Marcello manipulating with his cooking, so how credible is any of his words ?.

He probably wishes Marcello was worse than he is ,so then he can be like " see I told you " . I think he gets satisfaction at people's downfall .

[AnnieK]

I wouldn't like to dismiss Dean if he feels aggrieved, it does at least need looking into if he feels like something was said.

However, considering the number of cameras, I would hope that anything homophonic, racist etc would be picked up by producers and dealt with quickly so I doubt anything was that could really be construed as homophonic was said.

[GoldHeart]

I wouldn't like to dismiss Dean if he feels aggrieved, it does at least need looking into if he feels like something was said.

However, considering the number of cameras, I would hope that anything homophonic, racist etc would be picked up by producers and dealt with quickly so I doubt anything was that could really be construed as homophonic was said.

Sarah's comments in the Dr about Marcello , is clearly the real Marcello. She had nothing but nice positive things to say about him. Their friendship is so genuine and wholesome.

If he got evicted,I think it would have really upset her. She even said she has a similar sense of humour to him,and how she's the closest to him out of the 4 up for eviction . Even when they've argued...look how quickly they've resolved it.

Marcello seems like an easy target to paint as the 'bad guy' , which of course vile Dean has latched onto . He was even trying to blame Marcello for the mean comments about Sarah's shoes, even AJ was like..."but hang on you chose to say it in the blood task" ,then he said " yeah" :bored: . Truly Pathetic .

Marcello & Sarah can joke around ,and still be friends. Dean makes personal digs and nasty attacks and has zero remorse . He felt validated in his delusional head...when the audience applauded him on L & L ,he genuinely thinks he's in the right. He needs to remind himself why he got evicted, he needs a wake up call. Because his interview is the worst so far this year.

[BBXX]

I would say they are misogynistic comments and I don’t think that’s really up for debate. (The most egregious example imo is the way he treated Sarah during the roast chicken debacle - both the ‘you’re a vegan and your PH levels are probably off’ comment and the way he shooed her away to dismiss her. Oh and ‘you smell like period and tea bags.’ Often when he’s irritated by a female housemate he resorts to sexist comments.)

These things are complex. I think often people think that prejudice isn’t there unless someone’s actively saying **** like ‘men are superior to women’ or ‘homosexuality is wrong’, but it can be - and usually is - more subtle than that. We all grow up internalising prejudice and have internal biases (unless we unlearn them either purposefully or by being exposed to different ideas). That doesn’t mean female housemates can’t like him. I often like him and find him entertaining. I can still acknowledge that he makes misogynistic comments sometimes. I imagine if he is making homophobic comments it’s probably in like with his sexist comments - nothing absolutely god awful, but still coming from a homophobic place. He strikes me as someone who means well but has a lot of sexism he needs to unlearn.

This is an excellent well balanced post. Bravo.

[GoldHeart]

I'm adding this ,in case it hasn't been added yet .

Yazzfetto talking common sense & facts :clap1: .

avFQZHH21-0

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm adding this ,in case it hasn't been added yet .

Yazzfetto talking common sense & facts :clap1: .

avFQZHH21-0

:joker: He was raging at being out so soon and had had a drink and was feeling brave but essentially he was talking crap just as he had in the house

An unpleasant man all around and thankfully will quickly be forgotten

[Swan]

On Late and Live, Dean straight up admitted he was completely lying about accusing Marcello of cooking for everyone to get in their good books, and avoid nominations. Dean even said Marcello's cooking was lovely. This, and everything else considered (that's already been covered in the thread) really does make you question Dean even further as to whether there is any truth to his accusations.

[Cherie]

I wonder if James is a nickname for Dean

As for the title of this thread Will and AJ did not cut him off they asked him why it had never been mentioned before by Dean in the house, the video is quiet clear, they gave him time to expand?

[Cherie]

I'm adding this ,in case it hasn't been added yet .

Yazzfetto talking common sense & facts :clap1: .

avFQZHH21-0

the video is here, thanks Goldie

[GoldHeart]

I wonder if James is a nickname for Dean

As for the title of this thread Will and AJ did not cut him off they asked him why it had never been mentioned before by Dean in the house, the video is quiet clear, they gave him time to expand?

I think James is a security guard ,the housemates must have had dealings with or something lol.

Yeah exactly,why didn't Dean give an example of the homophobia . All he did was talk about the Amsterdam comment,which of course the L & L audience lapped up for his own arrogant
amusement:bored: .

Then he goes on to be a foul delusional hypocrite by talking about Emma & Sarah like they're beneath him. He probably thinks he's a protected class ,and can't be misogynistic or a bigot himself. But I'm seeing all those traits in him...and he projects it onto others.

He really is a bitter twisted individual.

[*mazedsalv**]

If Dean told me the sky was blue and clouds were white, I wouldn't believe him. He's a nasty man, and i don't for one second believe what he says.

Plus if Marcello really was those things, then Dean is too. Hating masculine men, and also calling Sarah a bitch...

Lets be honest if Marcello did say something, do we really think Ali wouldn't have used that as a reason to nom him? But nothing...

Martha on Kerry's live yesterday stated that Marcello has never been homophobic.

[FromBB8]

The one thing I wonder, and sorry if it's already been said on the thread - if Marcello was homophobic, why wouldn't he have nominated him this week? He said he'd have picked Emma and Nathan on Late and Live.

[Maru]

It depends on if you think Marcello is actually making Misogynistic comments.

I would personally argue that his humour is not very politically correct, but I wouldn't necessarily say that he is Misogynistic.

Unless most of the female Housemates liking him are wrong, and Ali is correct?

His humor is not very PC at all and social boundaries clearly don't exist for him like it does for many, but he does talk in what can easily be construed as an offensive manner and if someone who is in the line of sight of that feels that comment could target them (as a group qualifier), I can understand being offended by it... suggesting he's a predator though and going after certain groups is a bit of a stretch. I think even Marcello knows there's a line somewhere... I don't know that BB would warn him specifically, though. ITV seems a bit more relaxed than C5 in that they don't want to interfere in anything. Where they have compensated is in casting people like Trish & Ali, who no matter what you can say about them, will easily point these things out and make it difficult for it to go further than a comment here and there... I would've thought some of the others might've said things as well, but now I don't know :shrug: ... so I can only assume it's not as bad as it's made to be in clips or that this particular cast is just that passive when it comes to people like Marcello.

He probably said " Do you want some food I cooked Dean"

And Dean probably said " yea mate " ,then he twisted it in his mind to be homophobic .

Dean goes out of his way to be offended, obviously I've used a silly example with cooking food ....but I wouldn't be surprised if it's something as mundane and silly as that. He even admitted to lying about Marcello manipulating with his cooking, so how credible is any of his words ?.

He probably wishes Marcello was worse than he is ,so then he can be like " see I told you " . I think he gets satisfaction at people's downfall .

I don't know that he goes out of his way. He's not a going out of his way to do anything kind of person unless provoked. I think he processes everything from his sleeve... he's relatively in tune with his feelings one minute to the next, sure, but I just don't think he understands what the heck is going on half the time as to the house and the environment in there. You'll notice he does very little digging or introspection about others and their motives. He's always self-assured one way or another. He often assumes intent and relies on his half-baked form of "intuition"... He said on L&L, for instance, he's highly spiritual. I believe that to be certainly possible, but when we've seen him talk about these things, it's been hinted or outright spoken about his ability to examine/address things. Almost in a mystical sense. It's all very passive and relying on hunches and not really an active way to participate in the house...

...and so when he talks about what he sees, I can't help but think that he's too deep in his own sense of things rather than engaging people 1-on-1 and challenging his own basis... my whole takeaway from his time there was that he was a fence sitter, until he wasn't for one reason or another, then he would strafe back to his "Home" position where he could live on predicting things from afar without actually contributing much at all to the dynamic. It's only when he saw opportunities to vent and let out these inklings that we suddenly saw... oh, this actually who he is :laugh:... (That's unfortunate...)...

In this way, he doesn't have to actually be held accountable for any of the things he might be wrong on, so he's so self-convinced on everything and everything he does... It's a way to cop out of the difficult parts of dealing with others. He definitely is not a people-person, which I do get, but it made him a very weak HM for me overall...

I think James is a security guard ,the housemates must have had dealings with or something lol.

Yeah exactly,why didn't Dean give an example of the homophobia . All he did was talk about the Amsterdam comment,which of course the L & L audience lapped up for his own arrogant
amusement:bored: .

Then he goes on to be a foul delusional hypocrite by talking about Emma & Sarah like they're beneath him. He probably thinks he's a protected class ,and can't be misogynistic or a bigot himself. But I'm seeing all those traits in him...and he projects it onto others.

He really is a bitter twisted individual.

I do agree to a good degree with some of that for sure, but I think it's less than conscious. He's so self-assured he doesn't see much farther than his nose... and it's very willful... for some that's more than enough to launch a verbal attack and then retreat before they get the response... I don't think that kind of person is very interested in responses, which is why most of this stuff he's said now didn't come out until L&L... so my view is this, if we only just heard about it now, then it probably really wasn't that bad of a comment...

[rusticgal]

At least Danny Beard put Dean in his place…

[moon_peach]

This is an excellent well balanced post. Bravo.

Thank you! ☺️

[Mystic Mock]

The most offensive thing I found about that interview wasn’t even this it was just how shite AJ & Will are at their jobs. Sack ‘em!

Not AJ.:bawling:

[BBXX]

Not what it's worth, I don't think Dean lied particularly, but I do think he probably read too much into something Marcello probably said and felt it was homophobic. However, until we're provided with any proof, we can't just believe Dean and take his word for it.

He came across terribly in the interview, so hostile.

[Ammi]

Not what it's worth, I don't think Dean lied particularly, but I do think he probably read too much into something Marcello probably said and felt it was homophobic. However, until we're provided with any proof, we can't just believe Dean and take his word for it.

He came across terribly in the interview, so hostile.

…this is what I feel also…I mean, if you see someone in a negative light…which he seems to have with Marcello…that who Marcello is represents ‘toxic masculinity’ for Dean…if that ‘vision’ and perception is already planted in him, then that’s what he’ll see…he will micro analyse everything to seek that toxic and it’s that thing…look for it and you will find it…because you will find something that your thoughts can mould into it, you know…?….

…some words/actions from Marcello have been quite questionable but not only have we not seen homophobia but there has been no reference to it from any housemate up until Dean’s words and nothing referred to in any nomination…

[BBXX]

…this is what I feel also…I mean, if you see someone in a negative light…which he seems to have with Marcello…that who Marcello is represents ‘toxic masculinity’ for Dean…if that ‘vision’ and perception is already planted in him, then that’s what he’ll see…he will micro analyse everything to seek that toxic and it’s that thing…look for it and you will find it…because you will find something that your thoughts can mould into it, you know…?….

…some words/actions from Marcello have been quite questionable but not only have we not seen homophobia but there has been no reference to it from any housemate up until Dean’s words and nothing referred to in any nomination…

Exactly. It is worth remembering that misogyny and homophobia often do come hand in hand (that is to say those who exhibit misogynistic views often exhibit homophobic ones too) so while I wouldn’t be surprised, it would be unfair to take Deans comment as factual.

[FromBB8]

Tonight's Late and Live will give us a better idea because production/friends & family have had time to 'coach' Dean. We've seen backtracking before on the second interview.

My concern is, if too many controversial moments happen in the post eviction interviews, they'll push them back, so Sunday night would become the first rather than second.

[GoldHeart]

Tonight's Late and Live will give us a better idea because production/friends & family have had time to 'coach' Dean. We've seen backtracking before on the second interview.

My concern is, if too many controversial moments happen in the post eviction interviews, they'll push them back, so Sunday night would become the first rather than second.

Or better still ,why don't they not have him on L&L :idc: .

[Dogeatdog]

There’s a lot we don’t see in the house. Marcello has made his fair share of bad comments regarding women and stuff but I do feel like if something homophobic was said by him they would’ve done something about it by now and it would’ve been mentioned by the other housemates as well.

I do feel like Dean came across bitter in his eviction interview and I’m questioning really as to whether there is any truth to these accusations. I get the impression that Dean is only making these allegations because of the masculinity comments he made about Marcello in the first place during the task and how bad that made him look.

[vesavius]

There’s a lot we don’t see in the house. Marcello has made his fair share of bad comments regarding women and stuff but I do feel like if something homophobic was said by him they would’ve done something about it by now and it would’ve been mentioned by the other housemates as well.

I do feel like Dean came across bitter in his eviction interview and I’m questioning really as to whether there is any truth to these accusations. I get the impression that Dean is only making these allegations because of the masculinity comments he made about Marcello in the first place during the task and how bad that made him look.

Yep, there is nothing that the leftist ultra progressive BB production team doesn't see and there is zero chance that they would allow actual homophobia fly.

Dean's playbook is when all else fails, call someone an 'ist' pr 'phobic' slur.

[GoldHeart]

Yep, there is nothing that the leftist ultra progressive BB production team doesn't see and there is zero chance that they would allow actual homophobia fly.

Dean's playbook is when all else fails, call someone an 'ist' pr 'phobic' slur.

This !

And he thinks he's got an automatic special pass to be as horrible & nasty as he likes,under the guise of " oh I'm being honest" . L& L should reject him from tonight's show. We don't need to see this pathetic waste of space again :bored: .

[Maru]

I don't know that the production is as lefty as it's being portrayed. I do believe their casting is a very wide net and people selected to appeal to/cause outrage in that demographic... so I'd argue that the "lefty" presentation is for entertainment-only.

The problem with Dean is that yes, it's OK to be honest around the people he knows because they all agree with him... go outside of any of that and try the being honest part again, it doesn't always quite work that way in the real world... people will disagree, it's only natural...

[GlitterUK]

If BB can look back at footage for rule breaks in such detail they can look back at alleged comments. Rather than cutting him off, they should have turned the tables and asked when/what he said and did he report it to the DR so those comments can be checked. BB like scandal/drama so if he had said comments they would have shown it knowing BB.

Dean just comes across as vile and bitter.

[Mystic Mock]

Yep, there is nothing that the leftist ultra progressive BB production team doesn't see and there is zero chance that they would allow actual homophobia fly.

Dean's playbook is when all else fails, call someone an 'ist' pr 'phobic' slur.

That's my impression of Dean too.

[GoldHeart]

If BB can look back at footage for rule breaks in such detail they can look back at alleged comments. Rather than cutting him off, they should have turned the tables and asked when/what he said and did he report it to the DR so those comments can be checked. BB like scandal/drama so if he had said comments they would have shown it knowing BB.

Dean just comes across as vile and bitter.

Especially considering last night's show when they were all asking personal graphic questions . Emma had no filter with what she said. So I doubt they'd hide Marcello's comments.

Dean just wanted to play the card to destroy Marcello's character, because it's too easy to see someone like Marcello and use him as a scapegoat.

Dean thinks he's a protected class,that can spout any garbage. When in reality whether you're gay , different race , from a different country, whatever gender you are ...you can still be as
bigotted and ignorant as the next person :idc: .

He kept calling Emma "bitch " like he was being funny, when if Marcello did it ... he'd be called a woman hater . The same rule should apply to Dean.

[Swan]

I feel like had he said anything remotely homophobic, Dean would have told Ali (if she wasn't there for it), and Ali would have been quite vocal about it. No way would Ali be hugging, holding hands, and having a laugh with Marcello had been in any way homophobic in the house.

[MTVN]

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C'mon that's pretty funny

[vesavius]

1854590113449132207

C'mon that's pretty funny

Yeah, that's funny.

Imagine being such hard work and so insufferable that you take a joke like that as 'homophobic'.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bwahahaha

Dean you pathetic twat

How embarrassing

[BBXX]

Right okay so not homophobic then.

It's really hypocritical to call someone homophobic for saying camp while on what would have been the same day criticise him for being masculine.

[jem-jem]

Yeah if he actually said anything.. i’m sure if he had, he would be out the house. Meanwhile Dean’s rant about Marcello’s masculinity was quite brutal and nasty and… heterophobic

You are absolutely right, I find Dean to be a nasty prick.

[GoldHeart]

1854590113449132207

C'mon that's pretty funny

Seriously That's the comment!?? , wow
Dean is truly pathetic :bored: .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Right okay so not homophobic then.



No, the goon does not even understand what homophobia is

[Swan]

What a snowflake

[rusticgal]

Dean is a desperate wanna-be….

[Ray.]

Anyway Marcello got it wrong and he shouldn't have called him that.

What he should have called him is Campenstein's Monster.

It's a common misconception.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Anyway Marcello got it wrong and he shouldn't have called him that.

What he should have called him is Campenstein's Monster.

It's a common misconception.

:joker:

[vesavius]

Anyway Marcello got it wrong and he shouldn't have called him that.

What he should have called him is Campenstein's Monster.

It's a common misconception.

:joker::joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is one of Marcello’s parents on the production team or something? Literally nothing can be said about this man.

All series AJ and Will have defended him at every opportunity they can.

I’d have loved to have heard what was supposedly said!

well this thread post has aged well

:laugh2:

[GoldHeart]

Anyway Marcello got it wrong and he shouldn't have called him that.

What he should have called him is Campenstein's Monster.

It's a common misconception.

Easy mistake to make, many people till this day still think Frankenstein is the monster :joker: .

[jones89]

Right okay so not homophobic then.

It's really hypocritical to call someone homophobic for saying camp while on what would have been the same day criticise him for being masculine.

Exactly!

[BBXX]

I have also just read though Dean said (and we can only take his word for it so it may not be true) a lot of the ‘Core’ group referred to things as “gay” in a negative way. So “this is gay” or “that’s gay”. To refer to something as bad.

While it’s not the most offensive thing in the word, it is a form of subtle homophobia and shouldn’t be tolerated. Also who the **** uses it in that way anymore I mean cmon.