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Glenn.
06-11-2024, 02:07 PM
To elect its first convicted criminal as president?

bots
06-11-2024, 02:14 PM
Are you sure you are asking the correct question?

That's the problem

Oliver_W
06-11-2024, 02:17 PM
Are you sure you are asking the correct question?

That's the problem

I'm pretty sure Trump is the first?

bots
06-11-2024, 02:20 PM
it obviously didn't matter to his voters, it also didn't matter to his voters that he that he led an insurrection, so it obviously isn't the right question to ask. The reason trump won is far, far deeper than that

Crimson Dynamo
06-11-2024, 02:21 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/m/Sin0DOO2uMcAAAAd/trump-trump-dance.gif

UserSince2005
06-11-2024, 02:24 PM
Trump is a god. May he reign forever.

Livia
06-11-2024, 02:26 PM
Doesn't really matter whether we in thus country agree or not, does it? That's democracy for you.

Glenn.
06-11-2024, 02:30 PM
Doesn't really matter whether we in thus country agree or not, does it? That's democracy for you.

It’s just a question Livia

bots
06-11-2024, 03:01 PM
the law and justice doesn't work the same way in america as it does here, so we really can't comment. For me, the voters in america have their own priorities based on what affects them. Who you vote for is always down to who you think offers you the best opportunities and most closely aligns with your own needs. Therefore, whether someone is a criminal or not may not be the priority

Zizu
06-11-2024, 03:14 PM
To elect its first convicted criminal as president?


What was he convicted of ?

Seriously .

I keep hearing him described ( online) as a convicted rapist ?!

Surely that can’t be correct ?


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Niamh.
06-11-2024, 03:18 PM
What was he convicted of ?

Seriously .

I keep hearing him described ( online) as a convicted rapist ?!

Surely that can’t be correct ?


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He was convicted by a jury in a civil suit but not in a criminal court. this article explains it better

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935

Glenn.
06-11-2024, 03:18 PM
What was he convicted of ?

Seriously .

I keep hearing him described ( online) as a convicted rapist ?!

Surely that can’t be correct ?


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https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db

arista
06-11-2024, 03:27 PM
He we get that stopped
He has an important job as the USA President 2024

Swan
06-11-2024, 05:20 PM
You could have added a 3rd option of "not really arsed, as the US is completely mental when it comes to politics", or something along those lines.

The real question is, how did he gain so many more voters this time round? They can't be, and are not all KKK members.

I've read so many things online from people who are salty about it, and throwing their toys out the pram. What should really be happening is how the Dems and their supporters can avoid somethng like this ever happening again. It's an embarrassment. They should be looking at themselves a bit more instead of judging the countless millions who did vote for him

Crimson Dynamo
06-11-2024, 05:31 PM
Biden won 18-29 year olds by a massive 25-point margin. Harris won them by only 13 points. Put bluntly, her performance among young voters was an abject disaster for Democrats and a troubling omen for the party’s political future..

GoldHeart
06-11-2024, 05:38 PM
You could have added a 3rd option of "not really arsed, as the US is completely mental when it comes to politics", or something along those lines.

The real question is, how did he gain so many more voters this time round? They can't be, and are not all KKK members.

I've read so many things online from people who are salty about it, and throwing their toys out the pram. What should really be happening is how the Dems and their supporters can avoid somethng like this ever happening again. It's an embarrassment. They should be looking at themselves a bit more instead of judging the countless millions who did vote for him

It is embarrassing, but the democrats haven't exactly helped themselves. When Biden was past it , and making mistakes...they kept insisting he was still ok , before finally they realised he had to stand down.

Democrat voters reaction to Trump getting shot , just got him more support. They were enjoying the fact he almost got killed. There was some pretty unhinged social media videos out there ,of
people joking about how the shooter " missed".

Whilst completing ignoring the fact an innocent person got killed at the rally , bear in mind these people are always claiming to be compassionate and accepting as liberals ...but if your politics don't align with theirs then it's " ha ha who cares you got shot and you were a trump supporter anyway"
Really not a healthy look :crazy: .

I'm glad I don't live in America, our politics is bad enough. But theirs is off the charts .

Swan
06-11-2024, 05:47 PM
It is embarrassing, but the democrats haven't exactly helped themselves. When Biden was past it , and making mistakes...they kept insisting he was still ok , before finally they realised he had to stand down.

Democrat voters reaction to Trump getting shot , just got him more support. They were enjoying the fact he almost got killed. There was some pretty unhinged social media videos out there ,of
people joking about how the shooter " missed".

Whilst completing ignoring the fact an innocent person got killed at the rally , bear in mind these people are always claiming to be compassionate and accepting as liberals ...but if your politics don't align with theirs then it's " ha ha who cares you got shot and you were a trump supporter anyway"
Really not a healthy look :crazy: .

I'm glad I don't live in America, our politics is bad enough. But theirs is off the charts .

Yeah, they're like that here too. It's why they passionately hate Centralist's because they can see through the hypocrisy of it all.

GoldHeart
06-11-2024, 06:01 PM
Yeah, they're like that here too. It's why they passionately hate Centralist's because they can see through the hypocrisy of it all.

I've honestly never felt so happy to be a centralist in my life ! .

I refuse to get involved in any of the BS , and I will never associate myself with either side.

Alf
06-11-2024, 06:39 PM
God bless the USA.

Redway
06-11-2024, 06:43 PM
Trump is a god. May he reign forever.

Oh, shut up.

Alf
06-11-2024, 06:52 PM
Oh, shut up.Bit authoritarian of you, dictating to people what they should do.

Glenn.
06-11-2024, 06:54 PM
Bit authoritarian of you, dictating to people what they should do.

America circa 2025

Beso
06-11-2024, 07:23 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/m/Sin0DOO2uMcAAAAd/trump-trump-dance.gif

Trump at Biden's funeral next year.

Alf
06-11-2024, 07:32 PM
Trump at Biden's funeral next year.You mean Biden is still alive now? Could have fooled me.

Vanessa
06-11-2024, 07:34 PM
He was convicted in a civil case, not a criminal one.
He's the best man for the job. Simple as

GoldHeart
06-11-2024, 07:34 PM
You mean Biden is still alive now? Could have fooled me.

Because Trump is a spring chicken right? :whistle: .

Vanessa
06-11-2024, 07:35 PM
Because Trump is a spring chicken right? :whistle: .

Biden should have retired as soon as he wasn't capable anymore.
Nothing against him, everyone gets older.

GoldHeart
06-11-2024, 07:39 PM
Biden should have retired as soon as he wasn't capable anymore.
Nothing against him, everyone gets older.

Of course ...which was democrats downfall , but Trump is like in his 80's aswell ! .

America keep electing old men ,which I find very bizarre. You would think they'd give younger politicians a chance.

Vanessa
06-11-2024, 07:40 PM
Of course ...which was democrats downfall , but Trump is like in his 80's aswell ! .

America keep electing old men ,which I find very bizarre. You would think they'd give younger politicians a chance.

It's his last term anyway. I would quite Iike a female president next.

Alf
06-11-2024, 07:40 PM
Because Trump is a spring chicken right? :whistle: .He's nearly double my age and he's got far more stamina and drive than me. The guy's work ethic is like most people in their prime. Just look at his schedules and what he actually does. He's non-stop, he's relentless.

I guarantee, come January when he takes over, he'll be going all over the World to let them all know that America is back in charge.

Glenn.
06-11-2024, 07:41 PM
He was convicted in a civil case, not a criminal one.
He's the best man for the job. Simple as

:facepalm:

It’s ok that he raped someone because he convicted in a civil case.

Vanessa
06-11-2024, 07:42 PM
He's nearly double my age and he's got far more stamina and drive than me. The guy's work ethic is like most people in their prime. Just look at his schedules and what he actually does. He's non-stop, he's relentless.

I guarantee, come January when he takes over, he'll be going all over the World to let them all know that America is back in charge.
He can handle it. He's used to being very active in his business.

Alf
06-11-2024, 07:49 PM
The night before the election, at 2am he was still talking at his forth rally of the day, in four different states. The guy is a freak of nature.

UserSince2005
06-11-2024, 07:51 PM
Oh, shut up.

Suck my big one.
You don’t run the world now!
We do!

Zizu
06-11-2024, 07:51 PM
I would imagine he will ‘taking’ loads of things to ‘help’ him cope


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Zizu
06-11-2024, 07:52 PM
TRUMP’S WHITE HOUSE WAS ‘AWASH IN SPEED’ — AND XANAX
Under Trump, the White House Medical Unit was “like the Wild West,” and staffers had easy access to powerful stimulants and sedatives, sources tell Rolling Stone
By NOAH SHACHTMAN, ASAWIN SUEBSAENG
MARCH 3, 2024


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Alf
06-11-2024, 07:52 PM
I would imagine he will ‘taking’ loads of things to ‘help’ him cope


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProHe hates drugs. Drugs killed his brother. He rolls on McDonalds and coca cola.

Zizu
06-11-2024, 07:55 PM
He hates drugs. Drugs killed his brother. He rolls on McDonalds and coca cola.


Maybe .. I have however seen loads of suggestions that he does cocaine

Common pills included modafinil, Adderall, fentanyl, morphine, and ketamine, according to the Pentagon report. But other, unlisted drugs—like Xanax—were equally easy to come by from the White House Medical Unit, according to sources that spoke to the magazine.

At least two senior staffers would regularly mix the depressant with alcohol, a potentially life-threatening combo, to deal with the stress of working with a highly erratic boss.

“You try working for him and not chasing pills with alcohol,” one source told Rolling Stone.


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thesheriff443
06-11-2024, 07:55 PM
The night before the election, at 2am he was still talking at his forth rally of the day, in four different states. The guy is a freak of nature.

You snooze you loose

Congratulations by the way your support of trump as been unwavering

user104658
06-11-2024, 07:56 PM
He's nearly double my age and he's got far more stamina and drive than me. The guy's work ethic is like most people in their prime. Just look at his schedules and what he actually does. He's non-stop, he's relentless.

I guarantee, come January when he takes over, he'll be going all over the World to let them all know that America is back in charge.

Alfs wanna be him, Alfs wanna be with him.

MTVN
06-11-2024, 07:57 PM
Yeah Trump is showing his age but he is still mentally sharp and his schedule that night before the election was incredible

Wouldn't be too harsh on Biden either though. He's a good guy who is still in good form, he's just not Presidential form

Alf
06-11-2024, 08:03 PM
You snooze you loose

Congratulations by the way your support of trump as been unwaveringAnd besides the odd bit of humourous fun (which I deserve), I haven't nastily gloated. Is that fair to say?

Crimson Dynamo
06-11-2024, 08:05 PM
TRUMP’S WHITE HOUSE WAS ‘AWASH IN SPEED’ — AND XANAX
Under Trump, the White House Medical Unit was “like the Wild West,” and staffers had easy access to powerful stimulants and sedatives, sources tell Rolling Stone
By NOAH SHACHTMAN, ASAWIN SUEBSAENG
MARCH 3, 2024


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Rolling Stone :joker:

Crimson Dynamo
06-11-2024, 08:06 PM
Yeah Trump is showing his age but he is still mentally sharp and his schedule that night before the election was incredible

Wouldn't be too harsh on Biden either though. He's a good guy who is still in good form, he's just not Presidential form

The way the Democrats gaslit the great American public about his health was frankly disgusting

Alf
06-11-2024, 08:11 PM
Yeah Trump is showing his age but he is still mentally sharp and his schedule that night before the election was incredible

Wouldn't be too harsh on Biden either though. He's a good guy who is still in good form, he's just not Presidential formJust look what he's had to go through. Let's just pick this year alone. Numerous witch hunt court cases. Being shot. And then trying to campaign, when all the mainstream is against you. And he's still there at 2 am the night before an election.

thesheriff443
06-11-2024, 08:46 PM
And besides the odd bit of humourous fun (which I deserve), I haven't nastily gloated. Is that fair to say?

Most definitely

user104658
06-11-2024, 10:51 PM
And besides the odd bit of humourous fun (which I deserve), I haven't nastily gloated. Is that fair to say?

Gloating about not gloating is a level of irony that I can fully get on board with. Chef's kiss honestly.

Crimson Dynamo
06-11-2024, 10:54 PM
He was convicted in a civil case, not a criminal one.
He's the best man for the job. Simple as

Bang on right Ness

As always

Glenn.
06-11-2024, 10:56 PM
Whether it was civil or criminal the predator raped a woman. It’s immoral that you stand by that.

I don’t have a daughter yet but you do. Whether you’re just trolling or not it’s despicable that you’d even make light of that

Crimson Dynamo
06-11-2024, 10:56 PM
Whether it was civil or criminal the predator raped a woman. It’s immoral that you stand by that

Don't talk rubbish

Vanessa
06-11-2024, 11:02 PM
:clap1:Don't talk rubbish

user104658
06-11-2024, 11:03 PM
Whether it was civil or criminal the predator raped a woman. It’s immoral that you stand by that.

I don’t have a daughter yet but you do. Whether you’re just trolling or not it’s despicable that you’d even make light of that

Now Glenn don't try to take the affirmation of the US election results away from the British TiBB men, it's all some of them have left.

Glenn.
06-11-2024, 11:12 PM
Don't talk rubbish

Explain what’s rubbish

Crimson Dynamo
06-11-2024, 11:12 PM
Now Glenn don't try to take the affirmation of the US election results away from the British TiBB men, it's all some of them have left.

Don't try and form fake butt hurt alliances

Lol

What a great Day it has been

Glenn.
06-11-2024, 11:17 PM
Like I asked Vanessa earlier, why isn’t the rape of a woman higher on your moral radar than your support of him?
As a loud advocate for women’s rights LT and a father of a daughter why have you turned a blind eye to the violation of a woman?

It’s almost as if you don’t care for women’s rights at all unless it’s against a buzz story about a trans person :think:

Vanessa
06-11-2024, 11:19 PM
Don't try and form fake butt hurt alliances

Lol

What a great Day it has been

Its been a brilliant day :cheer2:

user104658
06-11-2024, 11:19 PM
Don't try and form fake butt hurt alliances

Lol

What a great Day it has been

A Trump win was on the cards and I'm of the personal opinion (stated more then enough times for you to check) that the US election results make little to zero difference in terms of geopolitics and, as we're not American, while the domestic politics are a disaster for American women... We're not American.

I do (legitimately) find it extremely sad that anyone would assess whether or not a day was great for them personally on the basis of any political event, let alone another nation's elections. If it genuinely warms your cockles I find that bleak and sad. Like, I joke and take the piss, but all jokes aside, finding any sort of real joy in this is an existential black hole that I can't even imagine LT. By all means enjoy it but fk me. It's an empty bottle of nothing sauce.

Glenn.
06-11-2024, 11:31 PM
As expected. No response.

Same with Vanessa and Kate too.

No response. Because there’s no justification for it.

Crimson Dynamo
06-11-2024, 11:35 PM
Its been a brilliant day :cheer2:

It really has

Amazing

:dance2:

Crimson Dynamo
06-11-2024, 11:36 PM
A Trump win was on the cards and I'm of the personal opinion (stated more then enough times for you to check) that the US election results make little to zero difference in terms of geopolitics and, as we're not American, while the domestic politics are a disaster for American women... We're not American.

I do (legitimately) find it extremely sad that anyone would assess whether or not a day was great for them personally on the basis of any political event, let alone another nation's elections. If it genuinely warms your cockles I find that bleak and sad. Like, I joke and take the piss, but all jokes aside, finding any sort of real joy in this is an existential black hole that I can't even imagine LT. By all means enjoy it but fk me. It's an empty bottle of nothing sauce.

I really feel sorry for you

user104658
07-11-2024, 08:17 AM
I really feel sorry for you

Maybe you can have a chat about it over breakfast with US President Elect Donald Trump?

:skull: :skull: :skull:

bots
07-11-2024, 09:12 AM
What i want to know is how Trump is going to go into California and forcibly remove immigrants. Thats not going to happen without declaring war on the state. The same applies to all the other democratic held states

Crimson Dynamo
07-11-2024, 09:19 AM
The weasel Rory Stewart explaining how yes he was so wrong about Harris winning

But it was wrong for the right reason

He was wrong but virtuous "I think you can be a false prophet and right"

:joker:

His far left buddy A Campbell looks on incredulously

the hilarious clip is here: https://x.com/RestIsPolitics/status/1854086264196399471

user104658
07-11-2024, 09:37 AM
What i want to know is how Trump is going to go into California and forcibly remove immigrants. Thats not going to happen without declaring war on the state. The same applies to all the other democratic held states

The same way he built the Mexico border wall, I imagine. With hot air.

bots
07-11-2024, 09:43 AM
people will hand wring for years trying to find someone to blame. The simple fact is that democracy is a very fragile thing and its incompatible in the modern day with the existence of social media etc

joeysteele
07-11-2024, 09:45 AM
I personally wouldn't likely elect a convicted individual of any really unsavoury crimes to a position of power now.
So I guess I'd agree he shouldn't be.

However I'm not American, thank goodness because it seems more of them have gone out their minds in electing this paranoid narcissist as President.
Thankfully in just around three and a half years, this election process will be again going on in the USA.
With this narcissist not a candidate and after the next election leaving the World political stage for good.

What disruption and division he will possibly dangerously create in the next 3 years maybe doesn't bear thinking about.

However very sadly and worrying it's the USA's choice.

user104658
07-11-2024, 09:48 AM
people will hand wring for years trying to find someone to blame. The simple fact is that democracy is a very fragile thing and its incompatible in the modern day with the existence of social media etc

Basic human interaction, community and psychology is incompatible with social media. It's entirely bipartisan and an overarching social issue not just an "election politics" issue.

The mechanism is a "win" for Trump fans today -- but, for example, the gender ideology rhetoric those same people cannot stand, is a result of exactly the same mechanism.

Vanessa
07-11-2024, 09:49 AM
The weasel Rory Stewart explaining how yes he was so wrong about Harris winning

But it was wrong for the right reason

He was wrong but virtuous "I think you can be a false prophet and right"

:joker:

His far left buddy A Campbell looks on incredulously

the hilarious clip is here: https://x.com/RestIsPolitics/status/1854086264196399471

That guy just talks pure nonsense.

user104658
07-11-2024, 09:54 AM
I personally wouldn't likely elect a convicted individual of any really unsavoury crimes to a position of power now.
So I guess I'd agree he shouldn't be.

However I'm not American, thank goodness because it seems more of them have gone out their minds in electing this paranoid narcissist as President.
Thankfully in just around three and a half years, this election process will be again going on in the USA.
With this narcissist not a candidate and after the next election leaving the World political stage for good.

What disruption and division he will possibly dangerously create in the next 3 years maybe doesn't bear thinking about.

However very sadly and worrying it's the USA's choice.

I hate to say it Joey but I think there are worse people in his wake. Trump is a meme/entirely self-focussed/not at all ideology focused.

There are other far darker individuals with real ideological agendas clinging to his coat tails.

My hope is that they don't have the charisma to get over the line -- but I suspect they'll be keen to find another meat puppet to get their hands into.

joeysteele
07-11-2024, 09:57 AM
I hate to say it Joey but I think there are worse people in his wake. Trump is a meme/entirely self-focussed/not at all ideology focused.

There are other far darker individuals with real ideological agendas clinging to his coat tails.

My hope is that they don't have the charisma to get over the line -- but I suspect they'll be keen to find another meat puppet to get their hands into.

I really fear you are right there too.
You've made extremely strong reasoned points in your posts.

It's really worrying.

user104658
07-11-2024, 10:09 AM
I really fear you are right there too.
You've made extremely strong reasoned points in your posts.

It's really worrying.

On a more hopeful note, I would say they have put SO much into building Trump into a colossus that there is going to be an almost inevitable drop in their voter base engagement when he's gone. Heck of a lot of those voters are out to vote for Trump, and Trump specifically. They'll find a new figurehead for sure but not one with the same following as Trump over-night.

Crimson Dynamo
07-11-2024, 10:26 AM
From 1.40 on - the "i was wrong, but I was er right to be wrong?" meltdown commences

:joker:

roNW4K0rY4M

Livia
07-11-2024, 10:30 AM
My husband -an American - reckons the main reason he was was that Harris was so bloody awful.

Kate!
07-11-2024, 10:33 AM
My husband -an American - reckons the main reason he was was that Harris was so bloody awful.

Oh Liv. Never a truer word. That's exactly how I feel.

arista
07-11-2024, 11:35 AM
Its been a brilliant day :cheer2:


Yes Laughing Harris is Gone


That is Fantastic News

arista
07-11-2024, 11:40 AM
My husband -an American - reckons the main reason he was was that Harris was so bloody awful.


Yes he is a Wise Gentleman.

Alf
07-11-2024, 11:57 AM
Don't try and form fake butt hurt alliances

Lol

What a great Day it has beenHe's a failed bookie, who in his own head thinks he's Oscar Wilde.

user104658
07-11-2024, 12:00 PM
My husband -an American - reckons the main reason he was was that Harris was so bloody awful.

Harris was fine but the campaign was put together too hastily for it not to inevitably run out of steam.

I'm not sure if that was down to Biden being stubborn -- or a deliberate tactic that didn't play out in the end. The momentum gained at the announcement didn't make it to voting day, and the Trump campaign (which was initially caught off guard) in the end had too much time to pivot their own tactics in response.

Crimson Dynamo
07-11-2024, 12:05 PM
Harris was fine

whit?


https://media.tenor.com/lsmih9G2aYAAAAAM/laughing-laughing-so-hard.gif

Glenn.
07-11-2024, 12:23 PM
Oh Liv. Never a truer word. That's exactly how I feel.

But you’ll support a rapist…

user104658
07-11-2024, 12:59 PM
whit?


https://media.tenor.com/lsmih9G2aYAAAAAM/laughing-laughing-so-hard.gif

List what was not acceptable about Harris as the candidate. Harris specifically - not associated Democrat policy or how the campaign was run.

user104658
07-11-2024, 01:02 PM
He's a failed bookie, who in is own head thinks he's Oscar Wilde.

Given that I've never suggested anything of the sort, I'll gather from this post that you find a certain literary flair in my posts that's otherwise lacking in others.

Thank you kindly, Alf!

I'm not sure you're the right member to be commenting on people being delusional though. Or maybe, you are the perfect member to do just that :think:.

Niamh.
07-11-2024, 01:04 PM
Closed - I think this thread has run it's course now. Just a general reminder to everyone to everyone not to get personal about other members