Sarah’s “Stop the Gloats” comment

[Benjamin]

So Sarah said it about Ali, Dean, Segun, Khaled and Thomas during the vampire task.

I understand there was no racial intention there and just not thinking about the word play, but some are calling her racist and Hanah felt she was referring to her group who are POC (even though Sarah wasn’t). Thoughts?

[Vanessa]

She's not racist. She just didn't think about the negative connection to that word.

[Niamh.]

Stop the gloats? How is that racial?

[Jordan.]

It was still a play on a racist comment whoever it was aimed it.

[Swan]

Her life will be made hell now, of course, naturally :bored:

Love winning, as per.

[Benjamin]

Stop the gloats? How is that racial?

It was a play on words for the slogan stop the boats. But some (including Hanah) who thought she was saying it about her group (which Hanah referenced as people of colour)

[bots]

stop the boats is not a form of racism, its stopping illegal immigration

[Vanessa]

It was about Hannah gloatng during the vampire task. Badly worded.

[Niamh.]

It was a play on words for the slogan stop the boats. But some (including Hanah) who thought she was saying it about her group (which Hanah referenced as people of colour)

I never heard that slogan before which is why that would mean nothing to.me

[Benjamin]

It was about Hannah gloatng during the vampire task. Badly worded.

She was on the same team as Hanah, it was about the vampires as they were gloating.

[GoldHeart]

It was about Hannah gloatng during the vampire task. Badly worded.

See this is the confusion, i don't think it was the vampire task.

I think it was when Marcello got HOH, I remember Sarah talking to Emma in the kitchen.... saying she thought Hanah etc was " gloaty" . Emma was agreeing aswell.


Sarah was also a villager so it makes zero sense it being about the vampire task :facepalm: :conf: .

Sarah has foot in mouth disease,and is either lying or has got confused.

It was definitely about when Hanah's group went upstairs to celebrate Marcello as HOH. We never saw Sarah mention a boat joke,so no idea why she dug that hole for herself.

[Saph]

I don’t think Sarah meant it with racial connotations

Just a poor choice of words

[BBXX]

I think BB has been really irresponsible here by not clarifying with Hanah that the gloat remark in the task is separate to the “stop the gloats” comment because one was aimed at her group - a group largely made up of POC and the other was aimed at Vampires, which consisted of mainly white people.

It’s still poorly worded but I think the misunderstanding on who the comment was aimed at should be clarified because it removes the idea it was said towards a group of POC which puts a whole different stance on it.

[GoldHeart]

She was on the same team as Hanah, it was about the vampires as they were gloating.

Still doesn't make sense , as the comment was specifically about Hanah. If you watch it back.... you'll see . Hence why it has to be the HOH / Marcello thing :shrug: .

Sarah has basically got herself into trouble ,when I don't even think she said anything about boats to Nathan. Very weird :conf:.

[thesheriff443]

She was on the same team as Hanah, it was about the vampires as they were gloating.

I know Hanah was a migrant and I think Segun was one two so I think that’s why they have got offended

[BBXX]

See this is the confusion, i don't think it was the vampire task.

I think it was when Marcello got HOH, I remember Sarah talking to Emma in the kitchen.... saying she thought Hanah etc was " gloaty" . Emma was agreeing aswell.


Sarah was also a villager so it makes zero sense it being about the vampire task :facepalm: :conf: .

Sarah has foot in mouth disease,and is either lying or has got confused.

It was definitely about when Hanah's group went upstairs to celebrate Marcello as HOH. We never saw Sarah mention a boat joke,so no idea why she dug that hole for herself.

The “gloaty” comment mentioned in the task was said about Hanah’s group.

The stop the gloats was said about the Vampires. I think Sarah assumed that is what they were referring to.

[Benjamin]

Still doesn't make sense , as the comment was specifically about Hanah. If you watch it back.... you'll see . Hence why it has to be the HOH / Marcello thing :shrug: .

Sarah has basically got herself into trouble ,when I don't even think she said anything about boats to Nathan. Very weird :conf:.

No Sarah got confused. She did call Hannah gloaty. But she also said stop the gloats during the vampire task and seems to think that’s what they were referring to. Ajay explained it on L&L.

[Saph]

Remember when Caroline called Adam a gorilla

[MTVN]

Remember when Caroline called Adam a gorilla

:skull:

[Ray.]

I wasn't able to watch the show tonight, so maybe I'm a little premature in saying this, but just on the face of it, it seems rather reaching to call it racial at all. Especially if the context is that the other participants, who are majority white, were gloating.

To my mind, you'd have to be thinking about the migrant crisis 24/7 to make the connection between her comment and the stop the boats slogan.

[Niamh.]

How did that even come up now if it happened ages ago? (Sorry not watch l&l)

[thesheriff443]

What was the girls name that got removed for using the n word

[Niamh.]

What was the gil
Rls name that got removed for using the n word

Emily

[Benjamin]

How did that even come up now if it happened ages ago? (Sorry not watch l&l)

Sarah got confused and she inadvertently made herself look racist when she wasn’t as there were two separate convos now mixed up into one.

[thesheriff443]

Emily

That her got woken up to be removed

[GoldHeart]

No Sarah got confused. She did call Hannah gloaty. But she also said stop the gloats during the vampire task and seems to think that’s what they were referring to. Ajay explained it on L&L.

AHH I see
Oh what a mess of misunderstandings , Sarah shouldn't have mentioned the word play thing.

[Ray.]

Sarah got confused and she inadvertently made herself look racist when she wasn’t as there were two separate convos now mixed up into one.

Oh so she herself made the connection between the comment and the slogan? :hehe: Yikes that's bad for her. Still, the fact that she mistakenly voiced the connection aloud with no provocation shows to any right thinking person that it wasn't racial in its intent. Sadly, most people don't think sensibly or logically when even a sniff of racial subject matter enters the convo...

[rusticgal]

Oh so she herself made the connection between the comment and the slogan? :hehe: Yikes that's bad for her. Still, the fact that she mistakenly voiced the connection aloud with no provocation shows to any right thinking person that it wasn't racial in its intent. Sadly, most people don't think sensibly or logically when even a sniff of racial subject matter enters the convo...


I couldn’t have said that better..

[Ammi]

Oh so she herself made the connection between the comment and the slogan? :hehe: Yikes that's bad for her. Still, the fact that she mistakenly voiced the connection aloud with no provocation shows to any right thinking person that it wasn't racial in its intent. Sadly, most people don't think sensibly or logically when even a sniff of racial subject matter enters the convo...

…yeah I think she did link it to Hanah and said that she’d made the pun based on stop the boats in calling Hanah gloaty…I mean the fact that she kind of pressed that explanation of it would surely indicate in itself the lack of intent…

[Niamh.]

Oh OK just seen that part now. It did sound bad tbf I can see why Hanah was upset

[Swan]

She also "body shammed a 20 year old girl" :bored:

Time for me to put twitter down for the evening

[Ammi]

Oh OK just seen that part now. It did sound bad tbf I can see why Hanah was upset

…I thought that Hanah handled it all ok, actually…(…it felt as if…)…she and maybe Segun had not confronted or anything but might have gone to the DR to chat with BB…and they called in Sarah…

[GoldHeart]

Oh OK just seen that part now. It did sound bad tbf I can see why Hanah was upset

Yeah tbh I found it weird & a little cringe how her verbal diarrhoea let her down, if she's instantly linking " stop the boats / gloats " joke with Hanah .. it's not good. Even if she didn't mean it that way.

But like I said she was mixing up the comment with an entirely different situation. It wasn't even about the vampire task ...but she assumed it was :rolleyes: .

[Mystic Mock]

She meant it as a joke.

BB are being ridiculous.

[GoldHeart]

She also "body shammed a 20 year old girl" :bored:

Time for me to put twitter down for the evening

I can't wait for Lily to go tomorrow,if she is saved after tonight's HL ...I think I'll actually feel physically sick . she's pushed it far too much now ,with the constant selfish behaviour & loud unhinged screaming and childish act .

No way I could live with someone that grotesque and obnoxious.

[Mystic Mock]

It was still a play on a racist comment whoever it was aimed it.

Which legally is allowed.

Jokes are not meant to be policed in the UK.

[Swan]

I can't wait for Lily to go tomorrow,if she is saved after tonight's HL ...I think I'll actually feel physically sick . she's pushed it far too much now ,with the constant selfish behaviour & loud unhinged screaming and childish act .

No way I could live with someone that grotesque and obnoxious.

I 100% agree with you. She actually makes my blood boil, its unhealthy :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Remember when Caroline called Adam a gorilla

That really was racist.

[GoldHeart]

Which legally is allowed.

Jokes are not meant to be policed in the UK.

Mock she dug herself a hole ,the comment was the wrong comment and situation .. that's the problem aswell. She thought it was about the vampire task ,but it was about Hanah and her group after Marcello won HOH, both herself and Emma called Hanah's group " gloaty" . But it looks as if she's aiming it at Hanah, which is why she probably shouldn't have mentioned the boat comment / joke.

Huge misunderstanding,and foot in mouth disease. funny thing is ...I don't even remember her saying " stop the gloats" in the vampire task. I think she's ended up getting herself in trouble for a joke she probably never said, I think she was trying to do a Nathan joke .

[Benjamin]

It was still a play on a racist comment whoever it was aimed it.

Stop the boats isn’t racist.

Her word play at best was in bad taste.

The reason it’s blown up is because Hanah thought Sarah was saying it about her core group (which she wasn’t).

[Niamh.]

Stop the boats isn’t racist.

Her word play at best was in bad taste.

The reason it’s blown up is because Hanah thought Sarah was saying it about her core group (which she wasn’t).

Which wasn't Hanahs fault tbf, Sarah made it so7nd that way

[Benjamin]

Which wasn't Hanahs fault tbf, Sarah made it so7nd that way

Oh yeah I’m not blaming Hanah at all. Sarah confused convos up so it made it sound like that, so I get why. What I don’t understand is why BB didn’t intervene to clear it up, instead playing it up.

[GoldHeart]

Stop the boats isn’t racist.

Her word play at best was in bad taste.

Yeah bad taste is the right way,but I still don't think she even did a word play, I don't even remember " stop the gloats" ...I think she's getting it wrong,or spending too much time with Nathan had rubbed off on her .

[Benjamin]

Yeah bad taste is the right way,but I still don't think she even did a word play, I don't even remember " stop the gloats" ...I think she's getting it wrong,or spending too much time with Nathan had rubbed off on her .

We may not have seen it as it was during the vampire task and we only saw small parts of that.

[FromBB8]

Oh yeah I’m not blaming Hanah at all. Sarah confused convos up so it made it sound like that, so I get why. What I don’t understand is why BB didn’t intervene to clear it up, instead playing it up.

I presume and hope BB spoke to Hanah as well. They certainly explained the two different moments to Sarah in the DR.

[GlitterUK]

BB should show the original footage for clarity.

[Alf]

What's wrong with stopping the boats? What's racist about it.

People are entering our country illegally. That's a criminal offence. I support stopping that criminality.

You watch too much television and are totally brainwashed that you can't see criminal offences being carried out right in front of your own eyes.

[GlitterUK]

But none of the housemates are here illegally. Sarah saying she knows it isn't PC was her downfall.

[Mystic Mock]

Mock she dug herself a hole ,the comment was the wrong comment and situation .. that's the problem aswell. She thought it was about the vampire task ,but it was about Hanah and her group after Marcello won HOH, both herself and Emma called Hanah's group " gloaty" . But it looks as if she's aiming it at Hanah, which is why she probably shouldn't have mentioned the boat comment / joke.

Huge misunderstanding,and foot in mouth disease. funny thing is ...I don't even remember her saying " stop the gloats" in the vampire task. I think she's ended up getting herself in trouble for a joke she probably never said, I think she was trying to do a Nathan joke .

I get that some people won't like Sarah for this (which is their right) but BB and the audience need to understand that Sarah (and any other Housemate) should be allowed to make any joke, at any place, and at any time without receiving a warning over it.

The fact that some people are trying to justify the warning, shows that we have got a long way to go to repair this franchise still.

[Alf]

But none of the housemates are here illegally. Sarah saying she knows it isn't PC was her downfall.But there are some in here suggesting that saying "stop the boats" is far-right and rascist.

No, it's just an opinion on a criminal act being carried out.

[Mystic Mock]

Stop the boats isn’t racist.

Her word play at best was in bad taste.

The reason it’s blown up is because Hanah thought Sarah was saying it about her core group (which she wasn’t).

Tbf, people do interpret stop the boats either way.

Because I know that some people do view it as a racist term.

[vesavius]

She meant it clearly in my view as a joke around border control, because it was about controlling the 'border' against the Vampire team (half of who were white).

The vampires did start off very gloating.

Border control is clearly not just about PoC, it is about controlled immigration in general (whether from Eastern Europe or North Africa or wherever else... It gets even more unclear when you consider that it's debated still whether ethnicities like Syrians, for example, are 'white' or 'of colour'... The US defines them as white legally)...

Controlling your borders is not racist.

It was actually a good bit of witty word play. Well done Sarah!

[GoldHeart]

Tbf, people do interpret stop the boats either way.

Because I know that some people do view it as a racist term.

Plus she thought she aimed it at Hanah ,but it wasn't a comment aimed at Hanah. It was interpreted the wrong way.


Yeah the whole 'stop the boats' is so topical,it will be seen in every way you can think of...and usually a negative way.

I guess it's the equivalent to telling someone they sound " fresh off the boat", things can so easily get misconstrued.