NL: Dutch PM Schoof condemns antisemitic attacks in amsterdam

[Nicky91]

Prime Minister Dick Schoof said he was “horrified” by violent clashes between pro-Palestine protesters and Israeli football supporters in Amsterdam on Thursday. He spoke of “anti-Semitic attacks on Israeli citizens” and called it “completely unacceptable,” in a post on X. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke of “very violent” attacks on Israeli citizens.

“I have just spoken to Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu by phone to stress that the perpetrators will be identified and prosecuted. The situation in Amsterdam is now calm once more,” Schoof said.

Netanyahu called clashes between pro-Palestine protesters and Maccabi Tel Aviv supporters in Amsterdam a “very violent incident” against Israeli citizens, Reuters reported. He said that the Israeli army was sending two planes with medical teams on board to Amsterdam to “help citizens,” though Schiphol Airport told NOS that no such flights had been arranged.

The riot police had to intervene in several clashes between pro-Palestine protesters and Israeli football supporters who came to Amsterdam for the champions league match between Ajax and Maccabi Tel Aviv. The police arrested 57 people. A spokesperson couldn’t tell NU.nl on Friday morning how many people got hurt.

AT5 reported that the riot police deployed multiple units and dogs on Dam Square to keep football supporters and protesters apart, but there were still several violent confrontations.

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that ten Israelis got hurt and that the national security council urged Israelis to stay in their hotel rooms and not wear clothing that revealed them as Jewish or Israeli.

The run-up to the football match in the Johan Cruijff Arena was already grim. Several hundred pro-Palestine demonstrators had gathered near the stadium to protest against the presence of the Israeli club and fans. The police intervened when the demonstrators tried to get closer to the stadium and made several arrests.

https://nltimes.nl/2024/11/08/dutch-pm-condemns-anti-semitic-attacks-amsterdam-violent-says-israeli-pm

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[Nicky91]

seems police were already on high alert, due to maccabi fans causing trouble before the match



these pro-palestinian thugs had nothing to do with the outcome of the football match, the israeli fans were peacefully heading home when they were hunted down and beaten

[Mystic Mock]

Well at least the thugs are going to be dealt with.

[Crimson Dynamo]

far left thugs from Holland

[Nicky91]

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[Cherie]

The police sat back as the thugs hunted down small groups of people who were obviously Jewish

[Crimson Dynamo]

A sickened woman writes:


I’m so disgusted by what I just witnessed. In Amsterdam, Israelis & Jews
leaving a soccer match were beaten unconscious by mobs, thrown in the river,
and forced to say “free Palestine.” This is the direct result of normalizing
antisemitism post Oct. 7, where the most flagrant acts of Jew-hatred were cast
aside as just “bleeding hearts who are against the war.”

Remind me again how these are all just kind people who care about humanity.

If you can’t bring yourself to speak up now—after failing the Jewish community
for the past year with silence and/or by insisting that “globalize the intifada”
was anything other than a dogwhistle to harass Jews around the world—you
have no right to call yourself a humanitarian.

harrowing images: https://x.com/elicalebon/status/1854763713737507164

[Beso]

More proof if needed that the left are the real racist nazis .

[Nicky91]

“Boys on scooters” were behind multiple attacks on Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam on Thursday evening, Amsterdam mayor Femke Halsema said in a press conference on the events on Friday. She spoke of a “pitch-black” night that has “deeply damaged” the city’s Jewish life and culture. The police are aware of reports that Israelis were abducted in the Dutch capital but have no concrete indications that this actually happened.

Supporters of the Israeli football club Maccabi Tel Aviv were attacked in several places in Amsterdam on Thursday after a match against Ajax. Five people had to go to the hospital for treatment of injuries sustained in the attacks. All five had been discharged by Friday morning, the police said at the press conference. The police are aware of “20 to 30” other Maccabi Tel Aviv supporters who sustained minor injuries.

The police do not have any concrete information confirming rumors that Israelis were kidnapped in Amsterdam. Police chief Peter Holla asked that concerned family members contact them immediately to file an official report about anyone known to be missing. Holla, who took over as chief of police in Amsterdam in early September, said that the police could not give figures on how many people may or may not be missing.

“Amsterdam is reflecting on a ‘pitch-black’ night, and it is still dark today,” Halsema told dozens of journalists gathered at City Hall. The attacks on Jewish football fans were a form of a hit-and-run perpetrated by “boys on scooters” who then raced across the city “fleeing from the police,” she continued.

“That this is happening in Amsterdam is unbearable and cannot be stomached,” she said. “Our city has been deeply damaged, our Jewish life and culture are under attack.”

The mayor said that the Amsterdam authorities asked the National Coordinator for Counter-terrorism and Security (NCTV) for a security risk assessment on the Ajax vs. Maccabi Tel Aviv match and the Kristallnacht commemoration happening on the same night. The NCTV saw no concrete threat, the mayor said. Early police investigation shows that the riots were quickly organized on Telegram, Halsema said.

Public prosecutor René de Beukelaer said that the authorities would release photos of the perpetrators in order to quickly identify and apprehend them. The police arrested 62 people during the riots. Ten of them, eight adults and two minors, were still in custody on Friday. They are suspected of public violence against people or groups. The people who have been released are suspected of insults and throwing fireworks.

The authorities are taking extra measures to ensure everyone’s safety. Both Amsterdam and Amstelveen are declared security risk areas, because there may still be Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in the cities. The declaration gives the police more power to take preventative action, like stopping and searching people.

“What has happened is a scandal for Amsterdam,” mayor Halsema said. “I want to make it clear. We are used, in Amsterdam, that there can be tensions. There are many demonstrations and protests, and we are always prepared for them. … But what happened last night is not a protest. It has nothing to do with a protest or demonstration. It is a crime. There is no excuse for what happened last night”

Halsema declined to comment on Israel’s response to the violence, instead focusing on what the Dutch Cabinet said. Prime Minister Dick Schoof condemned the “anti-Semitic attacks on Israeli citizens.” Justice Minister David van Weel said that the perpetrators would be identified and punished. “We should be ashamed of ourselves,” he said on Friday.

Asked whether she would step down as mayor of Amsterdam if tens of thousands of Jewish people didn’t feel safe in the city, Halsema only said that she has the mandate of the city council to run a large, international city.


https://nltimes.nl/sites/nltimes.nl/files/styles/news_article_full/public/2024-11/IMG_8941.JPG?h=71976bb4
Amsterdam mayor Femke Halsema, public prosecutor René de Beukelaer, and police chief Peter Holla giving a press conference on attacks on Israeli football supporters in the city

[Liam-]

Football fans go and act like disrespectful thugs and get beat up by locals in response, hardly news

[Livia]

I love the advice, stay in your room and don't wear anything that identifies you as Jewish. Not the first time that's been seen as good advice in Amsterdam.

[UserSince2005]

Disgusting behavoir as usual from this lot.

[Livia]

Football fans go and act like disrespectful thugs and get beat up by locals in response, hardly news

Best to keep quiet if you're going to say something uninformed and look stupid.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Israeli Ambassador to the UK @TzipiHotovely
condemns the antisemitic attacks in Amsterdam, where hundreds of Israeli
football fans were beaten in the streets overnight.

“Shocked and deeply concerned by the violent anti-Semitic assaults on Israeli
fans in central Amsterdam last night, where hundreds of Israelis were
ambushed and violently attacked.

This heinous act is a painful reminder of the rising anti-Semitism in Europe. It
highlights the urgent need for stronger action to protect Jewish communities
and ensure that no one faces violence because of their identity.”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb3dmlDbIAAu6X3?format=jpg&name=small

[Nicky91]

I love the advice, stay in your room and don't wear anything that identifies you as Jewish. Not the first time that's been seen as good advice in Amsterdam.

this is exactly what i meant with the likes of Gideon Sa'ar, Itahar Ben-Gvir being exactly those who paint jewish people quite badly across the world, with their jewish fascism views

Best to keep quiet if you're going to say something uninformed and look stupid.

https://youtu.be/GJOV_cN-JP8

to be fair, Maccabi fans are hardly angels themselves either, i mean here some evidence, they were beating up arab fans


and before the game vs Ajax, they brought heavy fireworks with them and caused some unrest, where the police had to keep the peace


but in all fairness, their incidents were football hooligan incidents at least


these antisemitic assaults by the pro-palestinian far left thugs had nothing to do with the football anymore, just vile nasty senseless xenophobic discrimination, which truly is sickening

[Crimson Dynamo]

We failed Jews during football fan attacks like we did in WWII, says Dutch king

Police said five people were taken to hospital and 62 arrests were made after a
pro-Palestinian far-left organised mob began attacking Israeli football fans around midnight.

[UserSince2005]

I'm suprised no one was killed, these people love nothing more than to kill.

[Livia]

this is exactly what i meant with the likes of Gideon Sa'ar, Itahar Ben-Gvir being exactly those who paint jewish people quite badly across the world, with their jewish fascism views



https://youtu.be/GJOV_cN-JP8

to be fair, Maccabi fans are hardly angels themselves either, i mean here some evidence, they were beating up arab fans


and before the game vs Ajax, they brought heavy fireworks with them and caused some unrest, where the police had to keep the peace


but in all fairness, their incidents were football hooligan incidents at least


these antisemitic assaults by the pro-palestinian far left thugs had nothing to do with the football anymore, just vile nasty senseless xenophobic discrimination, which truly is sickening

That Youtube clip is 8 years old and has no relevance to this attack.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That Youtube clip is 8 years old and has no relevance to this attack.

and wrong team

[Livia]

and wrong team

Yes... And the wrong team.

[The Slim Reaper]

More evidence, if it were needed, that the world is upside down. The Haifa fans marched shouting death to Arabs and let the idf rape them, then attacked any buildings displaying a Palestinian flag, before attacking an Arab taxi driver in his cab. The locals stood up to them, and now the whole world supports football hooliganism.

The sickness of ignoring truth and facts in favour of racism, is fcucking dark.

15k Jews living in Amsterdam, none of which have been hunted down. Jews were still involved in some of the filming and none were attacked, only the hooligan fans

[Nicky91]

Schoof the Legend knows how to deal with these sort of terrorist thugs, so no worries, antisemitism terror are the lowest of the low type of scum, and they need to receive hard punishments

[The Slim Reaper]

Schoof the Legend knows how to deal with these sort of terrorist thugs, so no worries, antisemitism terror are the lowest of the low type of scum, and they need to receive hard punishments

This wasn't anti Semitism, Nicky. It was football hooliganism, which was fought back against by the locals. Happens in European cities a few times per year, but this is the only time that defending the hooligans has ever happened.

The story should be that they got their arses kicked so badly, that the IDF had to send military planes to pick them up, which is fcuking hilarious.

[Beso]

Was it locals or Ajax hooligans?

Where were the Ajax hooligans, I thought they had a reputation?

Bottle jobs if it wernt them involved in these attacks

[Crimson Dynamo]

Was it locals or Ajax hooligans?

Where were the Ajax hooligans, I thought they had a reputation?

Bottle jobs if it wernt them involved in these attacks

No Ajax are known for their support of the jewish community that you have to go through to get to the ground

Far left organised pro-hamas thugs riled up by calls on social media to target Jewish people

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On the social media platform Telegram, “there is talk of people going on a Jew hunt,” Halsema said. “That is so shocking and so despicable that I still
cannot fathom it.” Dutch Minister of Justice and Security David van Weel
vowed to track down and prosecute all of the perpetrators.

Halsema, Amsterdam’s mayor, described the violence as “an eruption of
antisemitism that we had hoped never again to see in Amsterdam.”

https://apnews.com/article/maccabi-tel-aviv-amsterdam-violence-protests-palestinian-bcea212281f682098c4c77ef552af5f1#:~:text=In%20the% 20past%2C%20Ajax%20was,to%20the%20club's%20former% 20stadium.

[Mystic Mock]

Football fans go and act like disrespectful thugs and get beat up by locals in response, hardly news

It's the motive as to why it's happening that's being especially noted in this case.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's the motive as to why it's happening that's being especially noted in this case.

huge rise in anti-semitism in Europe

we should have really cracked down of the pro-hamas call for violence marches

[Mystic Mock]

More evidence, if it were needed, that the world is upside down. The Haifa fans marched shouting death to Arabs and let the idf rape them, then attacked any buildings displaying a Palestinian flag, before attacking an Arab taxi driver in his cab. The locals stood up to them, and now the whole world supports football hooliganism.

The sickness of ignoring truth and facts in favour of racism, is fcucking dark.

15k Jews living in Amsterdam, none of which have been hunted down. Jews were still involved in some of the filming and none were attacked, only the hooligan fans

But those threats and attacks are also wrong.

It's not a one or the other type of situation, both are wrong.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Three-quarters of Dutch Jews were murdered during the Second World War under Nazi occupation, with 100,000 transported to Germany.

Earlier, Mr Herzog had called the “shocking” scenes an “anti-Semitic pogrom” reminiscent of last year’s Hamas attacks on Israel.


Some fans were forced to leap into canals or hide in hotels to escape.

Rioters, some carrying knives and travelling on scooters, shouted slogans like “free Palestine” and “now you know how it feels”.

At least 25 Israelis were reportedly injured in the “hit and run” attacks that Amsterdam’s mayor, Femke Halsema, called an “explosion of anti-Semitism” and a “black night and a dark day” for the city.

In a press conference on Friday, she announced emergency powers for security forces and designated the city a “security risk” area, deploying 800 more officers and banning protests this weekend.

Saying there was evidence that the riots were organised online, she said: “I understand very well that this brings back the memory of pogroms.”

[Mystic Mock]

huge rise in anti-semitism in Europe

we should have really cracked down of the pro-hamas call for violence marches

Don't forget how in some of the American Universities you had the three Prinicipals (I think that's what they were anyway) saying that it "depends on the context" when asked if it's okay to genocide Jewish people.:umm2:

I swear I honestly hate a lot of people in this day and age.

[The Slim Reaper]

It's the motive as to why it's happening that's being especially noted in this case.

The motive is the actions of the Haifa fans.


Set fireworks off and chanted during the minutes silence for the Spanish flood victims, because Spain have stopped selling weapons to support the Gazan genocide

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Sang chants about killing arabs, and levelling Gazan schools:

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Attacked local property to destroy Palestinian flags:

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Even the fcuking daily mail called them out

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb3GuIDXMAAe8Js?format=png&name=small

Still, best to trust the honest brokers on TIBB and infer it might be because they did nothing wrong, and were attacked as they were peacefully donating to the National trust.

[Beso]

Trip to turkey next for them

[The Slim Reaper]

But those threats and attacks are also wrong.

It's not a one or the other type of situation, both are wrong.

Mock, you're not stupid. If a bunch of foreign football hooligans rampaged through any city in England, you know exactly what would happen. One is the instigator and aggressor, the other isn't. It's fcuking wild that only because Israel is involved are people now defending and supporting hooligans.

Both don't exist without one side being the aggressor.

[Mystic Mock]

The motive is the actions of the Haifa fans.


Set fireworks off and chanted during the minutes silence for the Spanish flood victims, because Spain have stopped selling weapons to support the Gazan genocide

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Sang chants about killing arabs, and levelling Gazan schools:

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Attacked local property to destroy Palestinian flags:

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Even the fcuking daily mail called them out

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb3GuIDXMAAe8Js?format=png&name=small

Still, best to trust the honest brokers on TIBB and infer it might be because they did nothing wrong, and were attacked as they were peacefully donating to the National trust.

Both sides did bad things then.

And the motive of both sides were the same, because "free Palestine" being chanted is very clear what was going on here with at least some of that crowd imo.

And obviously attacking Arab people let's me know that the Jewish weren't innocent either.

That's how I'm viewing it anyway.

[Liam-]

But those threats and attacks are also wrong.

It's not a one or the other type of situation, both are wrong.

They got beat up because they were being violent, antagonistic assholes, not because they’re Jewish, no amount of crying victim will make it anything more than that

[Beso]

They got beat up because they were being violent, antagonistic assholes, not because they’re Jewish, no amount of crying victim will make it anything more than that

You do know the palestinian side were protesting all day in the city and at the stadium about UEFA decision to allow an israeli team play in the competition. So I imagine there was violent antagonistic assholes on that side as well

[Crimson Dynamo]

Angela Merkle has a lot to answer for

and its just going to get worse

chilling times ahead for Europe

[The Slim Reaper]

Both sides did bad things then.

And the motive of both sides were the same, because "free Palestine" being chanted is very clear what was going on here with at least some of that crowd imo.

And obviously attacking Arab people let's me know that the Jewish weren't innocent either.

That's how I'm viewing it anyway.

You can't both sides this. None of this would have happened without the Haifa fans doing a hooliganism. Free Palestine is not chanting kill the Jews, is it? It's not even remotely similar. Free Palestine is a chant about peace, Kill the Arabs, let the IDF **** them, there are no schools in Gaza because the children are dead, are not peaceful chants.

Again, 15k Jews live peacefully and without danger In Amsterdam.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Amsterdam's 'black night': Dutch admit they failed Jewish community 'just like WWII' after
targeted attacks by 'Arab migrant mobs' on Israeli football fans



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14060163/Amsterdam-black-night-Dutch-admit-failed-Jewish-community-attacks-mobs-Israeli-football-fans-WWII.html

[Beso]

Amsterdam's 'black night': Dutch admit they failed Jewish community 'just like WWII' after
targeted attacks by 'Arab migrant mobs' on Israeli football fans



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14060163/Amsterdam-black-night-Dutch-admit-failed-Jewish-community-attacks-mobs-Israeli-football-fans-WWII.html


We must listen to TIBB LT, not the government spokespeople :joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

We must listen to TIBB LT, not the government spokespeople :joker:

You should look for the truth. You wouldn't trust Starmer announcing something you didn't agree with, but now Galahads everywhere trust every government :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

We must listen to TIBB LT, not the government spokespeople :joker:

The Government and Embassy have spoken but wait - in my left wing algorithm X feed it says this

ycnmiu


Still its good everyone is using Elon's free speech platform

:laugh:

[arista]

Football fans go and act like disrespectful thugs and get beat up by locals in response, hardly news


But this was beating up Jewish Fans
by Palestine Political Groups
in the EU.

Some were kicked on the ground,


It is International News


President Biden said it was terrible


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/08/israel-sends-rescue-planes-football-fans-reportedly-attacked-amsterdam

[The Slim Reaper]

All I do for 20hrs a day is post (sorry - copy and paste) right wing grievance nonsense from the internet onto tibb, but somehow I think there is a left wing algorithm causing problems

ycnmiu

Fcuk me :laugh:

[Beso]

I'm not on twitter slim..tibb and youtube are my internet things. Mainly street journalism and slot streamers. Never news channels.

[Mystic Mock]

They got beat up because they were being violent, antagonistic assholes, not because they’re Jewish, no amount of crying victim will make it anything more than that

"Free Palestine" was reportedly said though, how do you explain that?

I have no doubt about some of the Jewish being violent as well towards some of the Arab community either, to me they both seem to dehumanize each other so it just wouldn't surprise me.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/08/13/91848545-14059365-image-a-46_1731070863330.jpg

[Ninastar]

Have they tried not being Jewish?

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm not on twitter slim..tibb and youtube are my internet things. Mainly street journalism and slot streamers. Never news channels.

Both platforms are overwhelmingly flooded with right wing grievance.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/08/10/91844295-14058621-image-a-19_1731062837050.jpg
[Pro-Palestinians demonstrate at
Amsterdam's Anton de Komplein square ahead
of the match between Ajax and Maccabi Tel Aviv]

[Mystic Mock]

You can't both sides this. None of this would have happened without the Haifa fans doing a hooliganism. Free Palestine is not chanting kill the Jews, is it? It's not even remotely similar. Free Palestine is a chant about peace, Kill the Arabs, let the IDF **** them, there are no schools in Gaza because the children are dead, are not peaceful chants.

Again, 15k Jews live peacefully and without danger In Amsterdam.

Free Palestine whilst attacking Jewish people is bit more of a course for concern.

So it is the very definition of a both sides situation, if both sides are doing bad things.

[Crimson Dynamo]

But this was beating up Jewish Fans
by Palestine Political Groups
in the EU.

Some were kicked on the ground,


It is International News


President Biden said it was terrible


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/08/israel-sends-rescue-planes-football-fans-reportedly-attacked-amsterdam

Biden hates the rise of anti-semitism in europe

he is old enough to remember the war

[Crimson Dynamo]

These mobs will be attacking Spurs fans next

very worrying times

[The Slim Reaper]

Free Palestine whilst attacking Jewish people is bit more of a course for concern.

So it is the very definition of a both sides situation, if both sides are doing bad things.

If someone attacks you but you fight back, are you both as bad as each other?

[Liam-]

"Free Palestine" was reportedly said though, how do you explain that?

I have no doubt about some of the Jewish being violent as well towards some of the Arab community either, to me they both seem to dehumanize each other so it just wouldn't surprise me.

In response to terrorist sympathisers chanting for Arabs to be raped and murdered while they attack innocent people and terrorise a town? I explain it as a consequence of thugs actions and in no way the same or comparable

[Mystic Mock]

Both platforms are overwhelmingly flooded with right wing grievance.

You're bang on about YouTube.

Some of the opinions that right wing YouTubers have held on there is... Unique I'll politely call it.:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jews kicked, beaten and humiliated: How a night of ‘pogrom’ in Amsterdam unfolded


Fans of Maccabi Tel Aviv were subjected to attacks by pro-Palestine hooligans before and after their team’s Europa League match against Ajax

https://cf.eip.telegraph.co.uk/responsive-image/content/2024/11/08/1731085739999.jpg

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/11/08/jewish-maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-attacked-in-amsterdam/

[Mystic Mock]

Mock, you're not stupid. If a bunch of foreign football hooligans rampaged through any city in England, you know exactly what would happen. One is the instigator and aggressor, the other isn't. It's fcuking wild that only because Israel is involved are people now defending and supporting hooligans.

Both don't exist without one side being the aggressor.

I'm not saying that the Jewish in this case are innocent though.

I'm just acknowledging that the response was also really bad.

[MTVN]

Surely we all know that all football fans have their elements of hooliganism, violence and bigotry. Surely we also all know that those do not make up 100% of a teams fan base.

Plenty of groups of English fans over the years have disgraced themselves on away days in Europe and at home. Doesn't mean that every single member of that fan base deserve to be abused, attacked and intimidated especially by assailants with racially charged motivations. But 'W Amsterdam' I guess.

[Mystic Mock]

If someone attacks you but you fight back, are you both as bad as each other?

That's self-defense so no.

But I'm even seeing pictures with some of them holding Hamas flags Slim, I think that some of them were being violent for Anti-Semitic motives.

But any that were just defending themselves from being attacked by violent Jewish people is legit imo, because obviously nobody should accept being violently attacked.

[Mystic Mock]

In response to terrorist sympathisers chanting for Arabs to be raped and murdered while they attack innocent people and terrorise a town? I explain it as a consequence of thugs actions and in no way the same or comparable

Obviously that's also wrong, I agree with you on that.

[The Slim Reaper]

Surely we all know that all football fans have their elements of hooliganism, violence and bigotry. Surely we also all know that those do not make up 100% of a teams fan base.

Plenty of groups of English fans over the years have disgraced themselves on away days in Europe and at home. Doesn't mean that every single member of that fan base deserve to be abused, attacked and intimidated especially by assailants with racially charged motivations. But 'W Amsterdam' I guess.

Honest, match-going English fans got caught up with hooligans all the time.
"racially charged motivations" Oh you mean the fans that started it all off by shouting about gazan schools and killing Arabs?
w for honest brokerage, i guess.

[Beso]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/08/13/91848545-14059365-image-a-46_1731070863330.jpg

Do the locals always dress in flag?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Surely we all know that all football fans have their elements of hooliganism, violence and bigotry. Surely we also all know that those do not make up 100% of a teams fan base.

Plenty of groups of English fans over the years have disgraced themselves on away days in Europe and at home. Doesn't mean that every single member of that fan base deserve to be abused, attacked and intimidated especially by assailants with racially charged motivations. But 'W Amsterdam' I guess.

Indeed look at what Liverpool did in Europe :umm2:

it resulted in a ban for all English clubs for 5 whole years

[Beso]

You're bang on about YouTube.

Some of the opinions that right wing YouTubers have held on there is... Unique I'll politely call it.:joker:

Your algorithm takes you to them.

I dont see any on my suggestions.:smug:

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb3OOzdWEAA8OOW?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb3OOzaWoAAtbKP?format=jpg&name=small

[Beso]

In response to terrorist sympathisers chanting for Arabs to be raped and murdered while they attack innocent people and terrorise a town? I explain it as a consequence of thugs actions and in no way the same or comparable

Donyou hold the same views on the recent riots in the UK? Especially in southport.

[MTVN]

Honest, match-going English fans got caught up with hooligans all the time.
"racially charged motivations" Oh you mean the fans that started it all off by shouting about gazan schools and killing Arabs?
w for honest brokerage, i guess.

Oh that's okay then

And it's perfectly possible for groups on both sides to have racist motivations which is Mocks point and is surely self evident

[Crimson Dynamo]

And this also on eve of Kristallnacht anniversary.


No other way to describe this other than a modern-day pogrom!




These far-left mobs must be stopped

[The Slim Reaper]

Indeed look at what Liverpool did in Europe :umm2:

it resulted in a ban for all English clubs for 5 whole years

I'm glad you're finally able to recognise the scourge of hooliganism. Remember when you liked LFC, but then didn't because of me :laugh:

Being sad and pathetic doesn't illicit a negative response from me. try harder.

w mentioning liverpool I guess :smug:

[Beso]

Britain sending arms to macca tel Aviv.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1DUV1TJa62/

[The Slim Reaper]

Oh that's okay then

And it's perfectly possible for groups on both sides to have racist motivations which is Mocks point and is surely self evident

Ahh yes, this is the new rule of just accepting footie fans in cities attacking and doing whatever they want. Point to one example of football hooliganism ever before being a both sides issue. Just one.

[MTVN]

Ahh yes, this is the new rule of just accepting footie fans in cities attacking and doing whatever they want. Point to one example of football hooliganism ever before being a both sides issue. Just one.

Not sure I get you, football hooliganism is frequently a both sides issue with rival fan bases clashing

[Beso]

A post of the macca fans tearing down a Palestinian flag before the game was shared on left wing platforms to incite violence and retribution for this after the match.

[The Slim Reaper]

Not sure I get you, football hooliganism is frequently a both sides issue with rival fan bases clashing

My bad, I should have been more specific. So when one team/country goes into another country and attacks and instigates, when has that ever been labelled as both sides? I don't remember the English hooligans in the france WC being excused. Wasn't it called a scurge on the country or something like that?

Instead this has been turned around so that now it's the hooligan perpetrators who are the real victims.

[Liam-]

I thought people were against foreigners going to other countries and causing trouble, maybe the Dutch were just concerned citizens protecting their streets from violent invaders?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I thought people were against foreigners going to other countries and causing trouble, maybe the Dutch were just concerned citizens protecting their streets from violent invaders?

The Dutch?

[MTVN]

My bad, I should have been more specific. So when one team/country goes into another country and attacks and instigates, when has that ever been labelled as both sides? I don't remember the English hooligans in the france WC being excused. Wasn't it called a scurge on the country or something like that?

Instead this has been turned around so that now it's the hooligan perpetrators who are the real victims.

I'd say that happens quite often because there's normally a section of the other fans perfectly happy to indulge in the violence

In fact that France world cup is a good example because English and Russian fans were both responsible for violence however a lot of innocent English fans got caught up in it as well and attacked by Russian hooligans.

Presumably we're not saying that all Tel Aviv fans were violent racists so it follows that not all of them deserved to be attacked and harassed last night. There's clearly a lot of concern amongst European leaders and authorities with what happened

[Livia]

I wondered how long it would take for this thread to turn into a series of pro-Hamas, anti-Jewish rants and the answer was... Not long at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wondered how long it would take for this thread to turn into a series of pro-Hamas, anti-Jewish rants and the answer was... Not long at all.

Literally was inevitable

Really worrying

[Mystic Mock]

Your algorithm takes you to them.

I dont see any on my suggestions.:smug:

That's because I do have a genuine curiosity about extreme political viewpoints, it does fascinate me I won't lie about that.

And in Melonie Mac's case for example, I get to see someone attractive saying obscene things rather than a product of incest saying the same things.

So that can be a bonus with extreme political viewpoints, they always find attractive women to vouch for them.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Oh that's okay then

And it's perfectly possible for groups on both sides to have racist motivations which is Mocks point and is surely self evident

Exactly, which you've worded much better than I have.

[Mystic Mock]

Not sure I get you, football hooliganism is frequently a both sides issue with rival fan bases clashing

Exactly.

Just look at Rangers and Celtic fan clashes as an example.

[Mystic Mock]

My bad, I should have been more specific. So when one team/country goes into another country and attacks and instigates, when has that ever been labelled as both sides? I don't remember the English hooligans in the france WC being excused. Wasn't it called a scurge on the country or something like that?

Instead this has been turned around so that now it's the hooligan perpetrators who are the real victims.

Hooligans aren't victims either imo.

[Beso]

That's because I do have a genuine curiosity about extreme political viewpoints, it does fascinate me I won't lie about that.

And in Melonie Mac's case for example, I get to see someone attractive saying obscene things rather than a product of incest saying the same things.

So that can be a bonus with extreme political viewpoints, they always find attractive women to vouch for them.:joker:



Who's she?

Can she give my penis something katie Hopkins couldnt?

[Beso]

Exactly.

Just look at Rangers and Celtic fan clashes as an example.

Celtic and rangers clashes are between groups of mentally inbred slum dwellers, each side dependent of which slum you live in.

Outside of that its banter in a pub between friends.

[Mystic Mock]

Who's she?

Can she give my penis something katie Hopkins couldnt?

She basically is a Political Streamer that has extreme views about "wokeness" in Video Games.

I would certainly say that Melonie Mac is more my type than Katie Hopkins, but you might feel differently tbf.

Here's one of her videos if you're interested.

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She's insane (even when she makes a good point lol) but I really can't deny that she is really attractive imo.

[Beso]

No..I will stick to my own disappointment at myself thank you

[Mystic Mock]

Celtic and rangers clashes are between groups of mentally inbred slum dwellers, each side dependent of which slum you live in.

Outside of that its banter in a pub between friends.

I'll take your word for it.

[Mystic Mock]

No..I will stick to my own disappointment at myself thank you

I understand where you're coming from.

[Beso]

I understand where you're coming from.

Chance would be a fine thing.

[Mystic Mock]

Chance would be a fine thing.

What do you mean?

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/08/19/91864453-14060605-image-a-1_1731093316121.jpg
[A British-Jewish man known only as
Aaron was left with blood streaming down
his face after he stepped in to help
an Israeli football fan from being attacked
by an anti-Jewish gang in Amsterdam
on Thursday evening]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14060605/British-Jewish-man-Amsterdam-attacked-violent-pro-Palestine-gang.html

[Ninastar]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/08/19/91864453-14060605-image-a-1_1731093316121.jpg
[A British-Jewish man known only as
Aaron was left with blood streaming down
his face after he stepped in to help
an Israeli football fan from being attacked
by an anti-Jewish gang in Amsterdam
on Thursday evening]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14060605/British-Jewish-man-Amsterdam-attacked-violent-pro-Palestine-gang.html

It’s just a bit of blood. He said mean words and probably deserved it

[Nicky91]

yes anti-jewish gang better way to describe these thugs, either that or pro-hamas


these thugs aren't genuinely caring about the palestinian civilians either, they same as hamas have no humanity in them whatsoever



that said


both sides have been in the wrong this particular evening


i mean imagine interrupting a moment of silence for those innocent flood victims in Valencia, only cuz Spain stopped supplying weapons to Israel

[Nicky91]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dutch-far-right-leader-wilders-meet-with-israeli-foreign-minister-anp-2024-11-08/

of course that tiny tool shows up in my nation, not surprising at all (even more not surprising him meeting up with Wilders)





thank you ******* Pro-Hamas thugs in my nation, you give this tool more food for thought to keep his genocidal antics going in gaza

:bawling:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Multiculturalism is a central tenet of liberalism, liberalism is not a central tenet
of multiculturalism.

The more that Europe continues to import its population
from countries where anti-Semitism is endemic, the more anti-Semitic Europe’s population will become.

The same applies to maltreatment of women, homophobia, sectarianism,
censorship and communalism. Liberals, of which I am one, have deluded
themselves that mass immigration is a story only of cultural enrichment,
bringing valued skills, exotic cuisines, innovative music, colourful fashions
and new languages.

Many immigrants do enrich the West but others come bearing the customs
and beliefs that shaped the societies they were desperate to leave. The
challenge lies in maximising the former while minimising the latter. That is
impossible unless we take the ‘mass’ out of mass migration.

The West is too deep in its civilisational nap to hear the wake-up calls. When
organised anti-Semitic thuggery returns to the streets of Amsterdam, we
prefer to tell ourselves that it’s just ‘clashes’ between football supporters, or
that Israeli fans who reportedly tore down Palestinian flags or sang anti-Arab
chants provoked the violence. Note that offensive words, which we always
say do not excuse violence, now excuse violence. Note that attacking a
minority or nationality because of the actions of some of their number, which
we always decry as racism and xenophobia, are no longer racism an
xenophobia. With what timorous ease we drop our principles to show our
enemies that our hands are up.


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/amsterdam-shows-the-limits-of-liberalism/

[Livia]

Great post Crimson Dynamo. I'm very worried about the excuses people make for this kind of violence and know it's not long until it's an everyday thing on the streets of London and other big cities. I don't wear a Star of David anymore since being spat at by a Muslim on the Tube, don't want to chance a fist in the face. Still... Slim Reaper told me I'm afraid of my own shadow, so... I guess everything's okay after all.

[Nicky91]

Great post Crimson Dynamo. I'm very worried about the excuses people make for this kind of violence and know it's not long until it's an everyday thing on the streets of London and other big cities. I don't wear a Star of David anymore since being spat at by a Muslim on the Tube, don't want to chance a fist in the face. Still... Slim Reaper told me I'm afraid of my own shadow, so... I guess everything's okay after all.

i didn't know that, sorry to hear that Livia :hug:

[Livia]

i didn't know that, sorry to hear that Livia :hug:

Thanks Nicky, I'm fine though. Just makes me more resolute not to put up with it.

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2024/11/09/26-year-old-arrested-public-violence-attack-israeli-football-supporters

update on this

The police have arrested a 26-year-old man on suspicion of public violence during the multiple attacks on Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam on Thursday. The man was arrested after being recognized by police on camera footage. It allegedly shows him assaulting someone, according to NOS. The suspect is in custody and is being questioned.

A large team of detectives launched a large-scale investigation on Friday morning following the riots surrounding the Ajax-Maccabi match. The detectives are focusing on analyzing camera images to identify suspects.

Five people were hospitalized, and 30 others suffered minor injuries, police said. A total of 62 people were arrested in the immediate aftermath, and ten of them were still in custody Friday afternoon. Over 800 police officers were deployed on the streets of Amsterdam prior to the football match and during the violence after.

Prime Minister Dick Schoof wrote on X that he was “horrified” by violent clashes between pro-Palestine protesters and Israeli football supporters in the Dutch capital on Thursday. He spoke of “anti-Semitic attacks on Israeli citizens” and called it “completely unacceptable.”

Many Israeli supporters will travel back to Israel on Saturday, reports the spokesperson of the Israeli embassy in The Hague.

They will travel on additional flights operated by Israeli airlines. These normally do not fly on Saturdays because of Shabbat, the Jewish day of rest. There are four flights to Tel Aviv on Schiphol's departure list for Saturday. Two of them have already departed.

Some of the supporters already left on Friday. According to the spokesperson, a total of 3,000 supporters are traveling back to Israel. Flights are also planned for Sunday. Three flights are on the departure list from Schiphol Airport to Tel Aviv on that day.

A spokesperson for Schiphol Airport was unable to provide any details about the additional flights, stating only that “requests for additional flights will be processed from Schiphol.

.

[Nicky91]

meanwhile the Amsterdam mayor Femke Halsema

tmGmcJzvwVk


Statement from Femke and others from the local authorities

“The night after the football match between Ajax - Maccabi Tel Aviv was very turbulent with several incidents of violence aimed at Maccabi supporters. In several places in the city, supporters were attacked. The police had to intervene several times, protect Israeli supporters and escort them to hotels. Despite the massive police presence in the city, Israeli supporters have been injured. The scale of incidents, victims and arrests is now under investigation. The local authorities (mayor, police chief and chief public prosecutor) are in contact with, among others, the Dutch government, the Israeli embassy and the Jewish community in Amsterdam, who are very concerned about the situation.

This outburst of violence towards Israeli supporters is unacceptable and cannot be defended in any way. There is no excuse for the antisemitic behavior exhibited last night by rioters who actively sought out Israeli supporters to attack and assault them. The local authorities call on all victims to report to the police.

Both Israeli visitors and the Jewish community should feel safe in Amsterdam. Additional police will be on site in the coming days to monitor and control the situation. In addition, extra attention is paid to the additional security of Jewish institutions and objects.”



Halsema who is left wing btw, constantly being attacked by radicals like Wilders, once again the far right want to blame her for these attacks as a easy target to pick on (which is basically all left vs right politics, where there is no need for in moments like this, we need more unity honestly)

[Nicky91]

meanwhile France have advised israeli supporters not to attend the France - Israel international football game this weekend


and they will have strict security measures at that game, especially keeping a close eye on the israeli team bus, the hotel where the israeli team are staying

[Livia]

meanwhile France have advised israeli supporters not to attend the France - Israel international football game this weekend


and they will have strict security measures at that game, especially keeping a close eye on the israeli team bus, the hotel where the israeli team are staying

Israel has advised Israeli supporters not to attend.

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2024/11/12/three-arrested-another-night-unrest-amsterdam


The police arrested three people after another night of unrest in Amsterdam, this time in the Nieuw-West district. The riot police intervened and calm had mostly returned by the end of the evening, the Amsterdam police reported on X.

The unrest started at around 7:15 p.m. on Plein ‘40-’45. A group involving dozens of people, many on scooters and fat bikes, committed vandalism, threw fireworks, and pelted cars and a bus with stones, local media wrote.

A tram caught fire after a firework was thrown into it. No one was on the tram at the time and first responders quickly extinguished the blaze.

At around 10:15 p.m., the square was accessible again because the rioters had moved on to Slotermeerlaan. There, they pelted police officers with stones, AT5 reported.

The police reported no injuries that required hospitalization. One of the rioters got hurt while setting off a firework. Paramedics treated them at the scene.

Parool reported that a boy on a bicycle got beaten up when cycling past the group. “People are agitated. The police really saved me,” he told the newspaper.

The police expect more arrests to follow. There is plenty of video footage with which investigators can identify perpetrators, a police spokesperson told NOS. Anti-Semitic insults can be heard in the videos.

Things have been restless in Amsterdam since a match between Ajax and Maccabi Tel Aviv on Thursday. Riots followed the match and Maccabi supporters were chased and attacked in several places. There is also footage of Israelis instigating violence against locals. Earlier, Maccabi supporters had pulled down Palestinian flags and vandalized taxis. On Sunday, the police arrested over 50 people at a banned pro-Palestine demonstration on Dam Square.

An emergency decree is in effect in Amsterdam until Thursday. The decree bans all demonstrations and the wearing of face-covering clothing. It also gives the police more power to take preventative action, like stopping and frisking people.

.

[Nicky91]

https://i.imgur.com/9anAgs8.jpeg


A delegation of French imams, travelled to Amsterdam to firmly denounce the violent antisemitic attacks that occurred last week against Israeli football supporters.

The delegation led by Imam Hassen Chalghoumi, President of the Conference of Imams of France, accompanied by writer en Holocaust survivor Marek Halter and Chief Rabbi Moché Lewin, Vice-President of the Conference of European Rabbis (CER) and Special Advisor to the Chief Rabbi of France.

Signs in English, French, Arabic with messages like "Jews are our brothers. Together against hate" and "Muslims and Jews, united as brothers for peace" held by French imams alongside a French and a Dutch rabbi.

The delegation laid white roses at the statue of Anne Frank at the Westermarkt as ‘an unyielding symbol of the struggle against antisemitism and the necessity of peaceful coexistence among communities’. Afterwards they visited the Anne Frank House.

The delegation for peace and solidarity calls on all religious and political leaders to stand up against antisemitism and to promote constructive interreligious dialogue. They also call on all citizens to join. “Together, we must work for a world free of discrimination, where peace and tolerance prevail.”


https://www.annefrank.org/en/about-us/news-and-press/news/2024/11/13/delegation-peace-and-solidarity-anne-frank-house/

muslims and jewish people standing together for peace and solidarity


:flutter: that's more like it unlike the xenophobic bigotry fighting among ego's like ben-gvir, sa'ar, netanyahu and those hamas, hezbollah thugs

[The Slim Reaper]

meanwhile the Amsterdam mayor Femke Halsema

tmGmcJzvwVk


Statement from Femke and others from the local authorities



Halsema who is left wing btw, constantly being attacked by radicals like Wilders, once again the far right want to blame her for these attacks as a easy target to pick on (which is basically all left vs right politics, where there is no need for in moments like this, we need more unity honestly)

Has she provided any updates on this, since she made her first statement?

[Nicky91]

Has she provided any updates on this, since she made her first statement?

investigation still ongoing probably? no further updates for the time being


since there have been multiple assaults that evening, the authorities have a lot on their hands right now


against the thugs who committed antisemitic crimes, but also against the maccabi fans who committed hate crimes against some of the local citizens, the latter will be more difficult considering most of them are back at home in Israel, and likely will get defended by the Netanyahu/Ben-Gvir/Sa'ar regime

[The Slim Reaper]

Great post Crimson Dynamo. I'm very worried about the excuses people make for this kind of violence and know it's not long until it's an everyday thing on the streets of London and other big cities. I don't wear a Star of David anymore since being spat at by a Muslim on the Tube, don't want to chance a fist in the face. Still... Slim Reaper told me I'm afraid of my own shadow, so... I guess everything's okay after all.

I wouldn't have responded to this post, but as you mentioned me again, I feel as though I have the right of reply.

No way in hell did this actually happen, and I'm pretty sure most people, if they aren't already certain about it, are highly suspicious at best. You've played the petrified shrinking violet about all the protests since day dot, and now you expect folks to believe you were displaying the Magen David. On the tube, no less? Yeah, nah.

You were so shaken by this imaginary event, that you made it about me :flutter: :laugh3:

[The Slim Reaper]

investigation still ongoing probably? no further updates for the time being


since there have been multiple assaults that evening, the authorities have a lot on their hands right now


against the thugs who committed antisemitic crimes, but also against the maccabi fans who committed hate crimes against some of the local citizens, the latter will be more difficult considering most of them are back at home in Israel, and likely will get defended by the Netanyahu/Ben-Gvir/Sa'ar regime

Are you sure?

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Couldn't find the direct quotes, but OJ quotes what she said.

[arista]

Are you sure?


Are you Slim Aware
Nicky has left this forum in a Huff?

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394814

[The Slim Reaper]

Are you sure?


Are you Slim Aware
Nicky has left this forum in a Huff?

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394814

Thanks for the update. I wasn't aware as I haven't been around. He'll be back soon enough and maybe the Christmas break will fill him full of good will to all men (and women).

[arista]

Thanks for the update. I wasn't aware as I haven't been around. He'll be back soon enough and maybe the Christmas break will fill him full of good will to all men (and women).


You are wrong
he is Locked out of many individual threads.
He ignored Admin.

I guess a way to get rid of him.
Sadly.