Congrats on second place Marcello

[marcelloforthewin]

:dance: You are still a winner in my eyes


**** the ginger bitch

[fredmeneedle]

He's one jammy bastard to have got there given he is an egotistical narcissistic mysogynistic twat through and through

[Black Dagger]

:dance: You are still a winner in my eyes


**** the ginger bitch

A misogynist supporting a misogynist to the very end. Fitting.

[BBXX]

Well done on 2nd place Marcello.

[Jase.]

Dreadful housemate who didn't even deserve to be in the final.

[Jase.]

https://x.com/txbamxnmicxh_s/status/1857555722575221144

[GlitterUK]

Marcello did well. I think he will do well out of the house also. Wasn't keen on him at times but overall he has been a decent housemate.

[Glenn.]

I’m sure she cares with her £90k :fan:

[Mystic Mock]

:dance: You are still a winner in my eyes


**** the ginger bitch

He did well.

[Mystic Mock]

He's one jammy bastard to have got there given he is an egotistical narcissistic mysogynistic twat through and through

That description sounds like Andrew Tate.:laugh:

[madman411]

Truly awful housemate that should’ve gone week two. Here’s hoping that was the only time I had to hear his shitty song. The right person won.

[MTVN]

Truly awful housemate that should’ve gone week two. Here’s hoping that was the only time I had to hear his shitty song. The right person won.

C'mon treat yourself

Oao5bC6bc5c

[Adamw92]

Glad the misogynist prick didn’t win, should never have been in the final anyway

[GoldHeart]

Quite an achievement to be in the top 2, I didn't think he would. Just shows the boos aren't fully accurate.

[Locke.]

Heart of gold, glad he overcame the haters. Everybody knows that the best housemate never wins

[rusticgal]

Marcello did well. I think he will do well out of the house also. Wasn't keen on him at times but overall he has been a decent housemate.


I agree with this...

[Zizu]

Bollox


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[millyrose]

Happy for him coming second

[Crimson Dynamo]

Legend and king of compassion

I think he spoke for a generation

[BBXX]

I think he spoke for a generation

He did indeed! :hee:

One from the 1940s mainly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Happy for him coming second

As any gentleman should

:hee:

[Gusto Brunt]

He's my winner. :)

I don't care who the viewers voted for.

[GoldHeart]

He's my winner. :)

I don't care who the viewers voted for.

He'll be fine Gusto , looks like his music and everything is doing well. I'm sure we'll see him again on our screens :love: .

[Pronshi]

I'm not a Marcello fan but whoever is supposedly sending death threats need to stop.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/11/19/big-brother-star-reveals-death-threats-accused-homophobia-22024667/

Mind you ive just seen people calling him misogynist in his comments but maybe they are being sent privately?

[GoldHeart]

I'm not a Marcello fan but whoever is supposedly sending death threats need to stop.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/11/19/big-brother-star-reveals-death-threats-accused-homophobia-22024667/

Mind you ive just seen people calling him misogynist in his comments but maybe they are being sent privately?

Social media is truly unhinged!, imagine hating someone that much...you would send death threats :umm2: .

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm not a Marcello fan but whoever is supposedly sending death threats need to stop.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/11/19/big-brother-star-reveals-death-threats-accused-homophobia-22024667/

Mind you ive just seen people calling him misogynist in his comments but maybe they are being sent privately?

unhinged far left loons

[Zizu]

Social media is truly unhinged!, imagine hating someone that much...you would send death threats :umm2: .


Well many of the things said about Ali in this very forum were absolutely disgusting, beyond belief !!


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[Zizu]

Quite an achievement to be in the top 2, I didn't think he would. Just shows the boos aren't fully accurate.


It really doesn’t ..


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[Maru]

C'mon treat yourself

Oao5bC6bc5c

Should change his stage name to Masculinity Spooks the way it's been working out for him of late...

[Zizu]

Should change his stage name to Masculinity Spooks the way it's been working out for him of late...


Spook Dawg more suited


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[Zizu]

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[GoldHeart]

Well many of the things said about Ali in this very forum were absolutely disgusting, beyond belief !!


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The fact you even think it's the same, just shows it's pointless even trying to have a discussion with you. Tell me where people told Ali to end her life ?!! .

There's no coming back from sending death threats to
someone who was on a reality TV show, that's disgusting. And I don't care who it is or who it's aimed at.

Marcello is not Hitler for godsake! .

[Zizu]

The fact you even think it's the same, just shows it's pointless even trying to have a discussion with you. Tell me where people told Ali to end her life ?!! .

There's no coming back from sending death threats to
someone who was on a reality TV show, that's disgusting. And I don't care who it is or who it's aimed at.

Marcello is not Hitler for godsake! .

Why put words into my mouth?



Just simple highlighting the EXTREMES people in this very forum went to .. to possibly just wind up fans of Ali .. ( well she wasn’t aware of all those unnecessarily toxic posts)


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[FromBB8]

Why put words into my mouth?



Just simple highlighting the EXTREMES people in this very forum went to .. to possibly just wind up fans of Ali .. ( well she wasn’t aware of all those unnecessarily toxic posts)


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The whole world doesn't revolve around Ali. Yes, she got a bad time and some of it was extreme. She's not the only one. Marcello (who this thread is actually about) has reportedly been getting death threats, for example.

[Mystic Mock]

He did indeed! :hee:

One from the 1940s mainly.

More 1990's tbh.:laugh:

And whoever is sending him death threats needs to seriously get a grip, the ****ing sad cases.

[Mystic Mock]

unhinged far left loons

Too true in this case.

[Mystic Mock]

Well many of the things said about Ali in this very forum were absolutely disgusting, beyond belief !!


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Has Ali received death threats, or been accused of being a predator? A paedophile? An Incel? A Misogynist? A Homophobe? The list goes on at the ridiculous vitriol that Marcello faced in the series from the public in particular, but partially from Ali and Dean too.

Anyone involved in this after the series has ended should especially be ashamed of themselves.

[BBXX]

Has Ali received death threats, or been accused of being a predator? A paedophile? An Incel? A Misogynist? A Homophobe? The list goes on at the ridiculous vitriol that Marcello faced in the series from the public in particular, but partially from Ali and Dean too.

Anyone involved in this after the series has ended should especially be ashamed of themselves.

I agree with your sentiment but to make our Ali has not been victim to a huge amount of name calling is ridiculous… Ali has been called a Misandrist (by you also), a sexist, a racist, a Zionist, anti-Semitic, accused of lying about her ADHD, has had her sexuality invalidated.

She has faced by far the most amount of vitriol.

Marcello has been liking homophobic comments, that’s all I will say…

[Mystic Mock]

I agree with your sentiment but to make our Ali has not been victim to a huge amount of name calling is ridiculous… Ali has been called a Misandrist (by you also), a sexist, a racist, a Zionist, anti-Semitic, accused of lying about her ADHD, has had her sexuality invalidated.

She has faced by far the most amount of vitriol.

Marcello has been liking homophobic comments, that’s all I will say…

Because I do believe that Ali is a Misandrist, just like a lot of people think that Marcello is a Misogynist, the difference is the criminal activity accusations and the death threats towards Marcello that imo makes the vitriol towards him worse.

Ali''s comments are bad don't get me wrong, especially when they can't seem to get their story straight on if she's a Zionist or Anti-Semitic.

But being accused of being a Paedophile is in my view the lowest of the low to make a baseless accusation against someone with, as mud sticks to that sort of stuff.

[Mystic Mock]

And what homophobic comments has Marcello been liking?

I haven't really been following much of the BB stuff over the last couple of days, so I'm genuinely curious.

[FromBB8]

I agree with your sentiment but to make our Ali has not been victim to a huge amount of name calling is ridiculous… Ali has been called a Misandrist (by you also), a sexist, a racist, a Zionist, anti-Semitic, accused of lying about her ADHD, has had her sexuality invalidated.

She has faced by far the most amount of vitriol.

Marcello has been liking homophobic comments, that’s all I will say…

He's also been liking comments which have been very critical of him so I think he's being stupid and not reading before liking rather than him being homophobic.

[GoldHeart]

He's also been liking comments which have been very critical of him so I think he's being stupid and not reading before liking rather than him being homophobic.

No point trying to explain, people will think the worst of Marcello regardless.

I'm so glad I don't use toxic platforms like Instagram,if people think it's ok to send death threats... just because they don't like a stranger they've never met, who's been on a reality show :crazy: . You would think Marcello actually physically attacked these people personally,the amount of hate he's getting:umm2: . They don't even know him...it shouldn't even be that deep.

People have been trying to look for moments, where he'd trip up.But whatever he does ... he's slated anyway. Damned if he does situation.

[Zizu]

You would think Marcello actually physically attacked these people personally,the amount of hate he's getting:umm2: . They don't even know him...it shouldn't even be that deep.

People have been trying to look for moments, where he'd trip up.But whatever he does ... he's slated anyway. Damned if he does situation.

Some .. mentioning no names ..on this very forum .. are guilty of exactly this against Ali !!!!!


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[Beso]

I’m sure she cares with her £90k :fan:

We all know her gf is In charge of that.

[Glenn.]

We all know her gf is In charge of that.

Why

[Maru]

He's also been liking comments which have been very critical of him so I think he's being stupid and not reading before liking rather than him being homophobic.

What a sad state that is that some are analyzing people's "Likes" for actual clues to life... I've noticed when I've liked stuff in one state of mind, I maybe wouldn't have liked the same thing if you showed me the same post even 5 minutes later and it's usually for mental state reasons... Likes are very fickle and it's better to use them very sparingly because they hold so little meaning to begin with in the first place... and then the other person is sitting there hyperventilating waiting for you the user to Like their stuff (unrelated to you, but a dependence on feedback loops)... Likes should remain a benign observation, imo. TiBB is actually better it doesn't have that function because it can destroy legitimate engagement...

[Beso]

Why

Theres already 2g gone on a whim. And they want to explore having children. As a couple, you would expect the level headed one to make a stance if that's the end goal.

[Glenn.]

Theres already 2g gone on a whim. And they want to explore having children. As a couple, you would expect the level headed one to make a stance if that's the end goal.

They can spend it as they please…

[Zizu]

We all know her gf is In charge of that.


Most will probably go to her sister if my memories serves me well (rarely does tbf)


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[Maru]

Theres already 2g gone on a whim. And they want to explore having children. As a couple, you would expect the level headed one to make a stance if that's the end goal.

They're not married yet and it was a one-sided discussion at that :laugh: (Plus we know the cost of weddings...)

[thesheriff443]

Some .. mentioning no names ..on this very forum .. are guilty of exactly this against Ali !!!!!


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You can’t let it go
This thread isn’t about Ali but you can’t keep her out of your head and this forum

Just because you would let her take a sh1t on your Chrismas dinner
We don’t all feel that much love for her or hate or anything

Keep wanting to bring members up like they have done anything wrong other than members have done in the past who disliked a housemate while watching them interact with other housemates

[Zizu]

You can’t let it go
This thread isn’t about Ali but you can’t keep her out of your head and this forum

Just because you would let her take a sh1t on your Chrismas dinner
We don’t all feel that much love for her or hate or anything

Keep wanting to bring members up like they have done anything wrong other than members have done in the past who disliked a housemate while watching them interact with other housemates


The post I responded to was outraged about the treatment Marcello got online claiming “ they don’t even know him “ when Ali got slaughtered unjustly each and every day by members of this very forum - why on earth would I not raise that point when that particular forum member was fairly vitriolic towards Ali !??!?


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[thesheriff443]

The post I responded to was outraged about the treatment Marcello got online claiming “ they don’t even know him “ when Ali got slaughtered unjustly each and every day by members of this very forum - why on earth would I not raise that point when that particular forum member was fairly vitriolic towards Ali !??!?


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No one gives a fcuk about Ali or you

[BBXX]

Because I do believe that Ali is a Misandrist, just like a lot of people think that Marcello is a Misogynist, the difference is the criminal activity accusations and the death threats towards Marcello that imo makes the vitriol towards him worse.

Ali''s comments are bad don't get me wrong, especially when they can't seem to get their story straight on if she's a Zionist or Anti-Semitic.

But being accused of being a Paedophile is in my view the lowest of the low to make a baseless accusation against someone with, as mud sticks to that sort of stuff.

I agree calling some a paedophile is the lowest of the low and nobody should be sending death threats or name calling in any way.

My point was you're incensed Marcello is victim of all of those name callings while participating it in yourself and forever, never really calling it out on this forum, while was of a constant pile on on Ali with many awful accusations.

[BBXX]

What a sad state that is that some are analyzing people's "Likes" for actual clues to life... I've noticed when I've liked stuff in one state of mind, I maybe wouldn't have liked the same thing if you showed me the same post even 5 minutes later and it's usually for mental state reasons... Likes are very fickle and it's better to use them very sparingly because they hold so little meaning to begin with in the first place... and then the other person is sitting there hyperventilating waiting for you the user to Like their stuff (unrelated to you, but a dependence on feedback loops)... Likes should remain a benign observation, imo. TiBB is actually better it doesn't have that function because it can destroy legitimate engagement...

Sorry but liking comments saying there is an LGBT agenda and that's why ITV fixes it for gay people to keep on winning is not a "state of mind" situation and if your mind goes there while in "one state" then that speaks volumes.

[Swan]

The post I responded to was outraged about the treatment Marcello got online claiming “ they don’t even know him “ when Ali got slaughtered unjustly each and every day by members of this very forum - why on earth would I not raise that point when that particular forum member was fairly vitriolic towards Ali !??!?


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Zizu, PLEASE. You do the same thing in the football threads. Ali, Marcello, every single HM is up for criticism. It wasn't toxic towards Ali, it was a dislike. She wasn't very likeable, IN MY (other's) OPINION. That's what BB was all about. You take the rough with the smooth. Ali is no angel, she's a professional victim, again, IMO. You need to get over it man. Some people could see through Ali, many others liked her. She won. Get over it.

It wasn't toxic, it was judgement. It wasn't hate, it was a dislike. These are BB contestants. We are literally here to judge them.

Death threats for Marcello are for nutters. Criticism is for us viewers.

I wasn't even unhappy she won, as i got in when the odds were decent and put a couple bets on her. Her win pays for our family Christmas dinner, and then some.

[Zizu]

Zizu, PLEASE. You do the same thing in the football threads. Ali, Marcello, every single HM is up for criticism. It wasn't toxic towards Ali, it was a dislike. She wasn't very likeable, IN MY (other's) OPINION. That's what BB was all about. You take the rough with the smooth. Ali is no angel, she's a professional victim, again, IMO. You need to get over it man. Some people could see through Ali, many others liked her. She won. Get over it.

It wasn't toxic, it was judgement. It wasn't hate, it was a dislike. These are BB contestants. We are literally here to judge them.

Death threats for Marcello are for nutters. Criticism is for us viewers.

I wasn't even unhappy she won, as i got in when the odds were decent and put a couple bets on her. Her win pays for our family Christmas dinner, and then some.


Death threats are disgraceful obviously but you are completely diluting the strength of palpable HATE posted about Ali every day .. one person posted well over a hundred negative comments about Ali in one single day !


Maybe you simply didn’t see all of the comments aimed at Ali which is feasible if you didn’t care for her or were simply disinterested .


The comments were far , far worse than DISLIKE that is for sure


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[Swan]

Death threats are disgraceful obviously but you are completely diluting the strength of palpable HATE posted about Ali every day .. one person posted well over a hundred negative comments about Ali in one single day !


Maybe you simply didn’t see all of the comments aimed at Ali which is feasible if you didn’t care for her or were simply disinterested .


The comments were far , far worse than DISLIKE that is for sure


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Honestly, she was your fave, so you've seen criticism as "toxic hate". We are all here to support, and not support HM's. We all have our faves, we all have HM's we don't like. I didn't like Ali. I didn't actually care that much for Marcello either. I liked Hannah, Khaled and Sarah. Oh and Rosie was quite sweet.

But we move on Zizu. Ali was liked as much as she was disliked. She never received death threats, like Marcello. She was awful imo, utterly awful. But ya know, call that toxic all you like. The only time i'll remember her is my betting on her, and the money i won off her back

[Maru]

Sorry but liking comments saying there is an LGBT agenda and that's why ITV fixes it for gay people to keep on winning is not a "state of mind" situation and if your mind goes there while in "one state" then that speaks volumes.

You misunderstand what I am saying. I don't need to track other people's internet breadcrumbs to feel like I know them better than whatever my own general assessment of them was from less artificial means. I think Marcello is the definition of a mixed bag but I also don't think it is wrong to speculate on any inherrent bias of ITV with 3 winners checking a load of those boxes. I would argue it has to do with the makeup of ITV's general audience and that BB's appeal is not as universal as some would like to think.

The same accusations about production bias were and are often made the other direction when it comes to would be anti-Feminists on the show and explaining how are they doing so well. There is a grain of truth to all of it. Just as the whole pro-left bias is often a grift to monetize the emotional reactions of that audience, so is grifting off those who react from the other end of that filter.

Whatever I think of the validity, it does not change that all people are prone to projecting their own neurosis into things no matter what is being said and discovered online because anonymity encourages outrageous overreactions over deep thought. The shows are edited to more or less take advantage of the same thing... Marcello was a participant so it is reasonable he is still booty-tickled and might have experienced that he and others were treated as props.

If Ali had lost, she might have felt taken advantage of also with any distress that was caused and none of that is unreasonable with the way they hacked apart the BB model to get audiences to react to certain HM depictions a certain way. But none are true victims as they chose to go on a highly edited TV show to try to get whatever message across..

[FromBB8]

Regarding the homophobic comment liking, Marcello has said on a TikTok Live that he didn't like any of those. When his friend highlighted what was being said on social media, he logged straight back on to see if he had done anything by accident, but there was nothing showing on his account.

Not sure if they're showing now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Honestly, she was your fave, so you've seen criticism as "toxic hate". We are all here to support, and not support HM's. We all have our faves, we all have HM's we don't like. I didn't like Ali. I didn't actually care that much for Marcello either. I liked Hannah, Khaled and Sarah. Oh and Rosie was quite sweet.

But we move on Zizu. Ali was liked as much as she was disliked. She never received death threats, like Marcello. She was awful imo, utterly awful. But ya know, call that toxic all you like. The only time i'll remember her is my betting on her, and the money i won off her back

Well said Swan

[Zizu]

Honestly, she was your fave, so you've seen criticism as "toxic hate". We are all here to support, and not support HM's. We all have our faves, we all have HM's we don't like. I didn't like Ali. I didn't actually care that much for Marcello either. I liked Hannah, Khaled and Sarah. Oh and Rosie was quite sweet.

But we move on Zizu. Ali was liked as much as she was disliked. She never received death threats, like Marcello. She was awful imo, utterly awful. But ya know, call that toxic all you like. The only time i'll remember her is my betting on her, and the money i won off her back


I actually predicted on the Final night that loads of BB/Ali fans would possibly target Marcello and a few others online for the way they treated Ali

Obviously I wasn’t expecting some weirdo/s sending death threats though
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[FromBB8]

I actually predicted on the Final night that loads of BB/Ali fans would possibly target Marcello and a few others online for the way they treated Ali

Obviously I wasn’t expecting some weirdo/s sending death threats though
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They weren't awful to her for six weeks. No worse than she was to some of them anyway.

More than one person has said please quit your obsession with Ali on threads which don't relate to her. I'm begging you, please heed it.

[Zizu]

They weren't awful to her for six weeks. No worse than she was to some of them anyway.

More than one person has said please quit your obsession with Ali on threads which don't relate to her. I'm begging you, please heed it.


I do try but some posts simply trigger and warrant a response/reaction

Ali said in her interview that she felt / perceived that ‘they’ wanted her out for the duration and she had to choose between quitting and working through the animosity - that description doesn’t remotely resemble your take on things so I take her version given she was the one living through it .


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[Redway]

He's one jammy bastard to have got there given he is an egotistical narcissistic mysogynistic twat through and through

He even liked a post on Instagram claiming there was a pro-LGBT agenda and that’s basically why Ali won. He doesn’t realise how much ITV were trying to make him look good, but ultimately that failed because he’s not the brightest of people and sabotages his own story. He has no idea how good he got it in that house.

[Redway]

Sorry but liking comments saying there is an LGBT agenda and that's why ITV fixes it for gay people to keep on winning is not a "state of mind" situation and if your mind goes there while in "one state" then that speaks volumes.

Ahh. I didn’t realise people on here were already honing in on this.

[Mystic Mock]

Some .. mentioning no names ..on this very forum .. are guilty of exactly this against Ali !!!!!


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I think that we all should agree that both Marcello and Ali have had below the belt comments made about them.

[Mystic Mock]

I agree calling some a paedophile is the lowest of the low and nobody should be sending death threats or name calling in any way.

My point was you're incensed Marcello is victim of all of those name callings while participating it in yourself and forever, never really calling it out on this forum, while was of a constant pile on on Ali with many awful accusations.

I have never taken part in anything below the belt about Ali, the only thing that I did was come to a conclusion based on my observation of her behaviour, that's not the same as calling a Housemate a Paedophile or wishing death on him.

And I have actually defended Ali multiple times on this Forum when some members would make out that she fancied Khaled.

Obviously I am less angry about that in comparison to Marcello's stuff because I do believe that death threats and libel are more serious offenses.

[Glenn.]

No one gives a fcuk about Ali or you

Stop being so nasty to members

[Zizu]

No one gives a fcuk about Ali or you


Heartless comment - blocked this ‘individual’


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[Zizu]

I think that we all should agree that both Marcello and Ali have had below the belt comments made about them.


Agreed

That said possibly 90% of the hate was directed at Ali though

( 10% towards Marcello and the others )

There are dozens upon dozens of THREADS started for specifically and actively attacking Ali for example - nobody else had that level abuse in here

That’s why I ( along with other Ali admirers found it so difficult and disturbing ) .


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[Benjamin]

Agreed

That said possibly 90% of the hate was directed at Ali though

( 10% towards Marcello and the others )

There are dozens upon dozens of THREADS started for specifically and actively attacking Ali for example - nobody else had that level abuse in here

That’s why I ( along with other Ali admirers found it so difficult and disturbing ) .


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Omg give it up already. You’re just saying the same thing over and over. It’s time to move on.

[Zizu]

Omg give it up already. You’re just saying the same thing over and over. It’s time to move on.


Like I said elsewhere

I have been actively posting about Ali although 99% of my posts were reactionary in that I was defending Ali / responding to a nasty comments about her


I wasn’t spending all day just posting wonderful things randomly or initiating discussions about her


This fact seems to be overlooked


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[FromBB8]

I do try but some posts simply trigger and warrant a response/reaction

Ali said in her interview that she felt / perceived that ‘they’ wanted her out for the duration and she had to choose between quitting and working through the animosity - that description doesn’t remotely resemble your take on things so I take her version given she was the one living through it .


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And during the vampire task Ali and Dean made it clear they were gunning to get Marcello and (in Dean's case) Khaled out. It worked both ways.

Anyway, as this thread is meant to be about Marcello, I will reiterate he has denied liking any of the homophobic/homophobic agenda posts on social media, and they're not showing as 'liked' to him.

[Beso]

He even liked a post on Instagram claiming there was a pro-LGBT agenda and that’s basically why Ali won. He doesn’t realise how much ITV were trying to make him look good, but ultimately that failed because he’s not the brightest of people and sabotages his own story. He has no idea how good he got it in that house.

He got it good because he was well liked by all his housemates, even when his personality was being squashed by Ali, he didnt kick up a fuss, he just toned it down around her delicate ears. He was ignored for tasks, often the last to be picked, or simply missed out on rewards as the unchosen one. Still hardly recieved any nominations though, which in itself is a strong indictment of a likeable character, and one that's easy to live with.

So I think it's unfair to say how easy his ride was, as he must have felt hurt and isolated at times when ignored for tasks etc. Hs personality seen him through, not favours from big brother.

Ali on the other hand, well she was just the exact opposite of marcello, with big brother having to give her a helping hand to get through to the end because her attitude and personality stank, hence the weekly nominations.

Pity the show has been taken over by the LGBT viewers, and the obvious agenda the show actually has to show one side more virtuous than the other.

It's all bollocky wank these days..

[FromBB8]

He got it good because he was well liked by all his housemates, even when his personality was being squashed by Ali, he didnt kick up a fuss, he just toned it down around her delicate ears. He was ignored for tasks, often the last to be picked, or simply missed out on rewards as the unchosen one. Still hardly recieved any nominations though, which in itself is a strong indictment of a likeable character, and one that's easy to live with.

So I think it's unfair to say how easy his ride was, as he must have felt hurt and isolated at times when ignored for tasks etc. Hs personality seen him through, not favours from big brother.

Ali on the other hand, well she was just the exact opposite of marcello, with big brother having to give her a helping hand to get through to the end because her attitude and personality stank, hence the weekly nominations.

Pity the show has been taken over by the LGBT viewers, and the obvious agenda the show actually has to show one side more virtuous than the other.

It's all bollocky wank these days..

If LGBTQ+ viewers had 'fixed' the vote then Dean and Martha would have got further than they did, rather than evicted at the first and second(?) opportunity respectively.

I personally don't think anyone had an easy time in the house. The whole point of it is to heighten tension and stress for entertainment.

[BBXX]

Pity the show has been taken over by the LGBT viewers, and the obvious agenda the show actually has to show one side more virtuous than the other.

It's all bollocky wank these days..

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[Zizu]

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Classic !!

I may have to steal that idea !

LOL


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[Beso]

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Your passive aggresive nonsense dont wash with me.

Zizu will lap it up though.

[Zizu]

Your passive aggresive nonsense dont wash with me.

Zizu will lap it up though.


Abso - bloody - lutley


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[Mystic Mock]

Agreed

That said possibly 90% of the hate was directed at Ali though

( 10% towards Marcello and the others )

There are dozens upon dozens of THREADS started for specifically and actively attacking Ali for example - nobody else had that level abuse in here

That’s why I ( along with other Ali admirers found it so difficult and disturbing ) .


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I don't know what the exact percentages are.

But I do believe that in particular Marcello, Lily, and Nathan also faced a lot of unnecessary hate during the Show too, and of course the 700 weirdos complaining to Ofcom about Sarah's joke.

And of course there was Ryan's hate that he was receiving over a joke in a VT.:umm2:

I doubt that the margin is as big as you're thinking it was, especially as Ali haters did (imo) have some just issue out constructive criticism, which I wouldn't necessarily say was the case with HM's like Nathan and Ryan imo.

[BBXX]

I don't want to keep going on, so I'm just going to say one last thing.

Firstly, I don't think any housemate should be subject to intense name calling and certain people calling anyone a paedophile or giving them death threats should probably be giving some kind of police warning because it's disgusting.

For me, the difference between the vitriol aimed at Ali and that at Marcello is the difference between interpretation and acceptability. That is the say, much of the critique aimed at Ali was peoples interpretation and perception of her actions and words.

The main overtly poor behaviour from Ali, which is not really up to interpretation was how she handled herself in her argument with Khaled and her bitching. I'm going to strike bitching off her scorecard because literally everyone in the house is guilty of it. Much of the rest was open to assessment by the viewers and Ali was called a multitude of things based on a viewers interpretation, rather than actual evidence and fact. Even things like her being a lesbian, her wearing certain t-shirts and her being friends with Lily were interpreted negatively to the nth degree. So often the critique felt very unjust and sometimes based on fantasy, rather than reality, because for me to find that critique fair I'd have to assume that persons interpretation is correct.

Conversely, much of the critique towards Marcello is based on actual things he said and rather than interpretation of the words. Whether you think the critique is fair or not comes down to whether you find what he said acceptable or not. There is no need to create scenarios in your head in regards to many of the things Marcello said, in the same way people did with Ali.

For instance, Marcello was called a Misogynist because of the things he said actually said to or about women. Ali was called a Misandrist because of peoples interpretation on her having mainly disagreements with men. There is a distinct difference.

That isn't the say either should be dragged over the hot coals, or that Ali was a saint, but it goes some way to explain the difference between critiquing someone who you interpret to have behaved poorly and critiquing someone who has actually said words that will offend someone.

[Zizu]

I don't want to keep going on, so I'm just going to say one last thing.

Firstly, I don't think any housemate should be subject to intense name calling and certain people calling anyone a paedophile or giving them death threats should probably be giving some kind of police warning because it's disgusting.

For me, the difference between the vitriol aimed at Ali and that at Marcello is the difference between interpretation and acceptability. That is the say, much of the critique aimed at Ali was peoples interpretation and perception of her actions and words.

The main overtly poor behaviour from Ali, which is not really up to interpretation was how she handled herself in her argument with Khaled and her bitching. I'm going to strike bitching off her scorecard because literally everyone in the house is guilty of it. Much of the rest was open to assessment by the viewers and Ali was called a multitude of things based on a viewers interpretation, rather than actual evidence and fact. Even things like her being a lesbian, her wearing certain t-shirts and her being friends with Lily were interpreted negatively to the nth degree. So often the critique felt very unjust and sometimes based on fantasy, rather than reality, because for me to find that critique fair I'd have to assume that persons interpretation is correct.

Conversely, much of the critique towards Marcello is based on actual things he said and rather than interpretation of the words. Whether you think the critique is fair or not comes down to whether you find what he said acceptable or not. There is no need to create scenarios in your head in regards to many of the things Marcello said, in the same way people did with Ali.

For instance, Marcello was called a Misogynist because of the things he said actually said to or about women. Ali was called a Misandrist because of peoples interpretation on her having mainly disagreements with men. There is a distinct difference.

That isn't the say either should be dragged over the hot coals, or that Ali was a saint, but it goes some way to explain the difference between critiquing someone who you interpret to have behaved poorly and critiquing someone who has actually said words that will offend someone.


Absolutely wonderful summary/interpretation of the events involving Ali and Marcello !!

I wish I had your way with words … many times I jumped in to defend Ali because someone had posted something hateful about Ali based on something they thought Ali was thinking or was likely to do !!

Unbelievable !!


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