South Korea plane crash kills 179, with two crew rescued

[Benjamin]

* At least 124 people are dead after a plane crashed while landing at an airport in South Korea

* The Boeing 737-800 flight - operated by airline Jeju Air - had 181 passengers on board and was arriving at Muan Airport from Bangkok, Thailand

* Footage online appears to show the plane coming off the runway and crashing into a wall, before bursting into flames

* No cause has been confirmed - but the fire service says it believes a collision with birds and poor weather may be to blame

* Two survivors, both members of the flight crew, have been pulled from the debris and rescue efforts continue


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c4glr85l2ldt

[Ammi]

…devastating…it’s reporting 175 passengers on board and ‘almost all killed’ so yeah ‘at least’ 124…and maybe many going home from Christmas family visits…so close to completing landing, it always feels a safer time but for this flight, just catastrophic…and weather conditions can be very unpredictable also…

[Kate!]

Terrible news. I'm really sorry this happened.

[arista]

Terrible
so many dead.

[Ammi]

…some reports are now saying 151 killed…it feels as though all on board are presumed dead but not yet confirmed…

[Mystic Mock]

…some reports are now saying 151 killed…it feels as though all on board are presumed dead but not yet confirmed…

That's horrible.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Having watched the video i cant see how anyone survives

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/12/29/1263540818105122517/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_1263540818105122517.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/12/29/08/93553543-14232987-image-a-24_1735460362856.jpg
[An excavator is used to lift burnt chairs
from the wreckage - December 29, 2024]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14232987/plane-crash-South-Korea-airport.html

[Glenn.]

Two people were pulled out from the tail end apparently

[arista]

CNN HD USA says the death toll is now 176


BBCHD say 167 dead

SkyNewsHD says 174 dead

[arista]

South Korea Airport Control tower
was Warned of a Bird Strike


Wild Birds Hitting the Engines,
making them lose power?

Landing gear did not go down in time
then crashed into a wall.

(Ex BA Pilot talking)


SkyNewsHD Live
BBCnewsHD Live

[arista]

Two people were pulled out from the tail end apparently


Yes, two lucky staff.

[Ammi]

Two people were pulled out from the tail end apparently

Yes, two lucky staff.

…one male and one female flight attendants is what the reports are…

[arista]

CNN HD USA Live

3 Bird Strike warnings
at the same time


One Engine was on Fire
because of the Wild Birds


It is possible this new Airline could now go Bankrupt


Australian Geoffrey Thomes speaking live on CNN HD

[Crimson Dynamo]

Final footage of doomed South Korean Jeju Air flight 7C2216 shows one of the
planes engines explode mid air, minutes before it landed and burst into flames.

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1873313217398841410

[UserSince2005]

If I’m ever in a plane crash scenario I’m getting out of my seat and going as far to the back of the plane as possible, given these past two crashes

[arista]

Final footage of doomed South Korean Jeju Air flight 7C2216 shows one of the
planes engines explode mid air, minutes before it landed and burst into flames.

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1873313217398841410


Far better Tweet
Shows it crashing into the Wall
No landing gear working
and going too fast


https://x.com/BNONews/status/1873174704720425440

[Cherie]

Horrific

[Crimson Dynamo]

Far better Tweet
Shows it crashing into the Wall
No landing gear working
and going too fast


https://x.com/BNONews/status/1873174704720425440

yes but I posted the tweet to illustrate what looks like a bird strike that caused the fatal crash

[arista]

yes but I posted the tweet to illustrate what looks like a bird strike that caused the fatal crash


Yes Up High The Engine was hit by Birds
the start of the 2mins of hell


Fair Point LT.

[Vanessa]

Absolutely horrendous and so close to the holidays. Didn't know sitting at the back was safer. I'll keep that in mind next time I fly.

[arista]

Absolutely horrendous and so close to the holidays. Didn't know sitting at the back was safer. I'll keep that in mind next time I fly.



Yes a chance at the tail end

[arista]

Flight Data Recovered
and Voice Recorders


Ref : CNN HD Live USA

[Nicky91]

collision with birds doesn't destroy the landing gear though

[Crimson Dynamo]

collision with birds doesn't destroy the landing gear though

It may damage the electrics and therefore they failed to deploy

[UserSince2005]

watching the video. if the wall wasnt in the way they probably would have just slowed down to a stop without turning into a fire ball.

Who puts a wall at the end of a runway.

[Benjamin]

watching the video. if the wall wasnt in the way they probably would have just slowed down to a stop without turning into a fire ball.

Who puts a wall at the end of a runway.

Yeah, I thought that too.

[rusticgal]

Tragic…

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Terrible tragedy. That's 3 in the last month? Why do I feel like this is somehow related to the drones issue. Probably not but there was also an incident in Canada

[Crimson Dynamo]

Terrible tragedy. That's 3 in the last month? Why do I feel like this is somehow related to the drones issue. Probably not but there was also an incident in Canada

Yes aw that today, horrible

[UserSince2005]

Yeah, I thought that too.

Also the landing was bad, did a quick read about landing without a landing gear

"During a belly landing, there is normally extensive damage to the airplane. Belly landings carry the risk that the aircraft may flip over, disintegrate, or catch fire if it lands too fast or too hard. Extreme precision is needed to ensure that the plane lands as straight and level as possible while maintaining enough airspeed to maintain control. Strong crosswinds, low visibility, damage to the airplane, or unresponsive instruments or controls greatly increase the danger of performing a belly landing. Belly landings are one of the most common types of aircraft accidents nevertheless, and are normally not fatal if executed carefully."

The plane wasnt straight, its nose was in the air. meaning the plane wasnt slowing down at all.

Wonder if this was pilot error. seems like he didnt know how to land safely wihtout a landing gear.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The pilots had a good 10 seconds of knowing they were about to die

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3f1edec4-bd8f-4924-a17a-e22d6dc6a807.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-1b930933-dcbc-4451-82da-2ae4ebe3f753.png

[Benjamin]

Indication of electrical fault in 'perplexing crash', aviation expert suggests

"This is one of the most perplexing crashes I have ever seen. Nothing about it makes any sense," aviation expert Geoffrey Thomas tells the BBC.

Speaking from Perth, he notes that while a bird strike may have played a role, once the pilot issued a mayday call the air traffic control data cut out.

The sudden loss of data - which allows the flights to be tracked - "indicates an electrical fault of some kind", Thomas suggests.

Following the call, the plane was also allowed to land in the opposite direction to usual.

But the wheels were up, the flaps not set correctly and it landed halfway down the runway before careering into the localiser and exploding, he says.

Thomas says there are workarounds if an electrical or hydraulic problem arises, but these were not used.

"It just doesn’t make any sense. We're going to have to wait for voice recorder details before we can get a handle on what on earth went on."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c4glr85l2ldt

[arista]

CNN HD USA Live

3 Bird Strike warnings
at the same time


One Engine was on Fire
because of the Wild Birds


It is possible this new Airline could now go Bankrupt


Australian Geoffrey Thomas speaking live on CNN HD


Yes Ben
Thomas


Was saying the same on CNN HD days
before the sad bbc

[Nicky91]

yes birds can get sucked into the engines, that has happened before, with Sullenberger's iconic hudson landing


also if a hydraulic problem, could be because the pilots forgot to shut down the flaming engine, in case of a bird strike and a engine fire, you need to cut it off from the hydraulic fluid, otherwise the engine won't work and yet it still drains away precious fluids from your hydraulic systems


same goes for electrical systems, they are run by a battery, which in turn is also powered by hydraulic fluid

[arista]

[Thomas says there are workarounds
if an electrical or hydraulic problem arises,
but these were not used.

"It just doesn’t make any sense.
We're going to have to wait for voice recorder details
before we can get a handle on what on earth went on." ]



Yes Stupid Direction Given to land the wrong way
into the brick wall.

[Nicky91]

the plane also didn't have its thrust reverser in the deployed position




the ''brick wall'' was just a building, past the end of the runway



i wonder if this plane was that doomed they couldn't do a TOGA (since this was clearly a plane not in a proper landing mode, so unless they had no other options, going around would've bought them more time to troubleshoot the problem and to try to get the landing gear down)

[Zizu]

Presumably the two crew who survived were at the back of the plane ( were they hang out mid flight ) ?

[Nicky91]

Other experts said that even if one engine failed, the second engine should have been able to supply power to lower the landing gear.


yes true, if one engine fails, the other engine should be well capable to supply power for the landing gear




also belly landings can work, but they usually work better on the water, not on a concrete runway, so what were these guys even thinking


it did have the correct nose up position for that type of landing, so there was some form of hydraulic, electrical power

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14235819/mid-air-collisions-frequent-expert-south-korean-airline-pilot.html




"Can a bird strike bring down a passenger plane? The tragic mid-air collisions which claimed hundreds of lives - as expert warns fatal incidents could become MORE frequent"

[arista]

Yes a still photo shows the Bird Attack
in One Engine for sure,


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/12/30/12/93554203-14235819-An_unverified_video_grab_reportedly_of_the_Jeju_Ai r_plane_shows_-a-3_1735562720563.jpg



Good job they have the Audio and Orange Box
the sad truth will be soon.

[Zizu]

I thought it just veered off the runway’s and smashed into a brick wall …

Sure I read that somewhere

[arista]

I thought it just veered off the runway’s and smashed into a brick wall …

Sure I read that somewhere

It landed with No wheels
and it was halfway down that runway


Not enough space to slow down


It hit the Brick wall while still going FAST

[arista]

Angry Locals shouted at the Police in the Airport,

As only 5 dead bodies were released.


The Police Man in charge
said their bodies are destroyed
in the heat of the crash.


They will have to be reassemble
bit by bit of bodies

[Nicky91]

It landed with No wheels
and it was halfway down that runway


Not enough space to slow down


It hit the Brick wall while still going FAST

a bird strike in one engine doesn't explain why the landing gear couldn't be deployed


but we'll know more soon, the black boxes are now in the US, with the NTSB

[Cherie]

Some former BA pilot suggested that the Pilot thought the wrong engine was damaged and that warnings were not taken on board during the panic

[arista]

Stinking Corruption

The Black Box stopped recording
just before it Crashed

Reported on SkyNewsHD