If Japan Never Attacked Pearl Harbor, UK would be under Germany now

[arista]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor


Good Job they did that attack.
It dragged the USA into WW2.


Before that attack
it was America First.
they sold weapons to the UK

But were never involved in WW2
until Japan attacked them "December 7, 1941"




Our Nicky would be a German poster.



It is that simple.



Ref: Special on CNN HD USA on UK TV

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicky the Nazi. Well who would have thunk it?

[arista]

Nicky the Nazi. Well who would have thunk it?


He would have no choice.

[Nicky91]

is this to bait me :suspect:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Arista was just following orders

[arista]

is this to bait me :suspect:


Of Course Not Nicky


I only used, you as a Example if

Germany won WW2.


That is only if Japan had not attacked the USA.



Sorry to make you think that

[Beso]

is this to bait me :suspect:

He has ways of making us talk.

[arista]

It was a Terrible Time
WW2
However, the USA was not part of the war
that started in September 1939.

It only got dragged into WW2 ( 9"December 7, 1941")
as Japan Killed so many in Pearl Harbor
As the USA were not expecting it.

[Nicky91]

and lining their ships perfectly in a row either, like sitting ducks

[Crimson Dynamo]

Or if it had gone the other way we could be turning Japanese


I really think so

[arista]

No Germany
was ready to take London,


Without the USA's help
the whole of Europe and the UK
would be taken by Germany

[arista]

and lining their ships perfectly in a row either, like sitting ducks


Yes it was Terrible
we are Lucky we Won WW2

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ireland would have been used as a huge prison Island.

[Nicky91]

i am already more german than dutch (for me personally) honestly

[arista]

Ireland would have been used as a huge prison Island.


Yes Good Point
all those who Protested
would be sent to The German
run Ireland Prison.


At least They would have food.

[arista]

i am already more german than dutch (for me personally) honestly

Thats OK Nicky.



Good job Great Japan Air Force
attacked the USA in 1941

Changing the whole route of WW2

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes Good Point
all those who Protested
would be sent to The German
run Ireland Prison.


At least They would have food.

Also they would be made to work and make cheap goods for the mainland and the Fatherland

Any insurrection would be brutally crushed however:nono:

[arista]

We would never know LT.

But Germany would make good use of Ireland
as a Massive Prison.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wales could be used to store things to save space

[arista]

Wales could be used to store things to save space



Yes Germany would get them to Build
Massive Warehouses

[Mystic Mock]

I would be talking about today being Suntag.:shocked:

[Mystic Mock]

Or if it had gone the other way we could be turning Japanese


I really think so

:joker:

[Livia]

No Germany
was ready to take London,


Without the USA's help
the whole of Europe and the UK
would be taken by Germany

Hmmm... Perhaps. Germany was nowhere near taking London.

Of course the role of the rest of the Allied Forces in the Far East, including UK, India, South Africa, Australia and NZ, is often overlooked, like the USA fought and won there all alone. They did not. What's more they took heinous German war criminals back to the USA because it profited them to do so.

[arista]

Hmmm... Perhaps. Germany was nowhere near taking London.

Of course the role of the rest of the Allied Forces in the Far East, including UK, India, South Africa, Australia and NZ, is often overlooked, like the USA fought and won there all alone. They did not. What's more they took heinous German war criminals back to the USA because it profited them to do so.


Yes,
Valid Points Livia.


I should have put it as
without the USA's help,
Germany could then go forward to
try to take London.


Of Course the Allied Forces
(India, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa & other nations)
played an important role in fighting Nazi Germany.


I was not ignoring them

[Quantum Boy]

The attack on Pearl Harbour was catalytic and prompted immediate action but the rising aggression and clear expansionism of Axis powers mean that the US was highly likely to become involved at some point - it just accelerated the tipping point. How the war would have played out from there is anyone's guess really. It would at the very least have been a LONGER war but Germany ultimately faces the same problem each time - holding the Western front whilst also trying to deal with Russia. D-Day wouldn't have happened without US resources but like I said... I think the US gets involved eventually... whether it's too late to pull off something like D-Day is the real question.

My instinct is that, one way or another, it was always going to be the case that Germany over-stretched their ambitions. They could have taken, and held, a huge chunk of Europe if they hadn't continued to push. Eventual peace settlement would probably have seen them keeping a lot of it.