Read this on DS

[Billy]

I read this on DS that someone posted and i just HAVE to post it. I agree with it 1000000% (about Nicky btw)

I like her. I make no bones about it. She's real - she's not a caricature like the twins, she's not bland like backstabbing Liam and she's not an irritating woman controller like Ziggy. Yet she's hated by many people on this forum and Gerry, the vile fat pest, will survive an eviction.

She's funny, she's bitchy, she's good hearted, she's grumpy. She's a normal person who is actually good in the house. When the bitchy housemates were desperate to tell Charley about the chants, wasn't it Nicky who stepped in and said: "She doesn't need to know that."

Wasn't it Nicky that warned Chanelle about Ziggy? Yes. She could see him from a mile off. But nobody listened. Nicky was the first to see the good in Charley and then everyone (post fake eviction) jumped on the bandwagon. She refused to run away when Emily made her racist comment and stood her ground when she was called to the diary room even when Charley escaped.

Davina and Dermot even seem to like making bitchy comments about Nicky. What has she done wrong?

There are many woman haters here as well, "Miserable cow!" They say about Nicky. Well I say they're miserable fools. What do they want? Barbie doll morons like the twins who just squeal 'Pink!' a lot. Creeps.

I am finished with my spirited defence of Nicky. I hope you read it with a sound mind.

[JeanP!]

Nikki is a goner :whistle:

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

i know, i like nicky too, but the bookies say shes going, and they never get it wrong

[Matt]

Um... defence schmefence (sorry about that).

She's a miserable c*w and she's a goner.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I read this on DS that someone posted and i just HAVE to post it. I agree with it 1000000% (about Nicky btw)

I like her. I make no bones about it. She's real - she's not a caricature like the twins, she's not bland like backstabbing Liam and she's not an irritating woman controller like Ziggy. Yet she's hated by many people on this forum and Gerry, the vile fat pest, will survive an eviction.

She's funny, she's bitchy, she's good hearted, she's grumpy. She's a normal person who is actually good in the house. When the bitchy housemates were desperate to tell Charley about the chants, wasn't it Nicky who stepped in and said: "She doesn't need to know that."

Wasn't it Nicky that warned Chanelle about Ziggy? Yes. She could see him from a mile off. But nobody listened. Nicky was the first to see the good in Charley and then everyone (post fake eviction) jumped on the bandwagon. She refused to run away when Emily made her racist comment and stood her ground when she was called to the diary room even when Charley escaped.

Davina and Dermot even seem to like making bitchy comments about Nicky. What has she done wrong?

There are many woman haters here as well, "Miserable cow!" They say about Nicky. Well I say they're miserable fools. What do they want? Barbie doll morons like the twins who just squeal 'Pink!' a lot. Creeps.

I am finished with my spirited defence of Nicky. I hope you read it with a sound mind.
What she has done wrong is be misrable 24/7, she constantly bitches about HM's having fun, telling them to shut up (not to their faces), and lastly she is a sexist cow

[Billy]

Originally posted by Jp!
Nikki is a goner :whistle:

Nicky I didnt say she wasnt

[Matt]

Originally posted by Antparker

What she has done wrong is be misrable 24/7, she constantly bitches about HM's having fun, telling them to shut up (not to their faces), and lastly she is a sexist cow

Oh yeah, I forgot about the sexist part.

[gowildcats]

The best post I have read today. Although I resent the dig at Sam and Amanda! They applied to get in the show, and they have been entertaining even though they dont do anything serious.:cheer:

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I read this on DS that someone posted and i just HAVE to post it. I agree with it 1000000% (about Nicky btw)

I like her. I make no bones about it. She's real - she's not a caricature like the twins, she's not bland like backstabbing Liam and she's not an irritating woman controller like Ziggy. Yet she's hated by many people on this forum and Gerry, the vile fat pest, will survive an eviction.

She's funny, she's bitchy, she's good hearted, she's grumpy. She's a normal person who is actually good in the house. When the bitchy housemates were desperate to tell Charley about the chants, wasn't it Nicky who stepped in and said: "She doesn't need to know that."

Wasn't it Nicky that warned Chanelle about Ziggy? Yes. She could see him from a mile off. But nobody listened. Nicky was the first to see the good in Charley and then everyone (post fake eviction) jumped on the bandwagon. She refused to run away when Emily made her racist comment and stood her ground when she was called to the diary room even when Charley escaped.

Davina and Dermot even seem to like making bitchy comments about Nicky. What has she done wrong?

There are many woman haters here as well, "Miserable cow!" They say about Nicky. Well I say they're miserable fools. What do they want? Barbie doll morons like the twins who just squeal 'Pink!' a lot. Creeps.

I am finished with my spirited defence of Nicky. I hope you read it with a sound mind.
What she has done wrong is be misrable 24/7, she constantly bitches about HM's having fun, telling them to shut up (not to their faces), and lastly she is a sexist cow

1. Shes not miserable 24/7 as on the Live feed shes bein happy and funny.
2. People forget that Nicky is 28 years old. Not everyone LOVES to run around having water fights, how can seh be criticised for disapproving of the immaturity of most people in there.

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

yeh, but ive watched nicky live, and sometimes, shes really fun! but they just dont show it on the highlights, she is a miserable cow sometimes, but sometimes shes really fun and exiting, the editors just let us see what they want us to see

[JeanP!]

Anyway, i don't care i'm remember you that she is :hugesmile:

[Billy]

How boring would it be, if all the housemates in there were like the twins ie like santa on prozac?

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I read this on DS that someone posted and i just HAVE to post it. I agree with it 1000000% (about Nicky btw)

I like her. I make no bones about it. She's real - she's not a caricature like the twins, she's not bland like backstabbing Liam and she's not an irritating woman controller like Ziggy. Yet she's hated by many people on this forum and Gerry, the vile fat pest, will survive an eviction.

She's funny, she's bitchy, she's good hearted, she's grumpy. She's a normal person who is actually good in the house. When the bitchy housemates were desperate to tell Charley about the chants, wasn't it Nicky who stepped in and said: "She doesn't need to know that."

Wasn't it Nicky that warned Chanelle about Ziggy? Yes. She could see him from a mile off. But nobody listened. Nicky was the first to see the good in Charley and then everyone (post fake eviction) jumped on the bandwagon. She refused to run away when Emily made her racist comment and stood her ground when she was called to the diary room even when Charley escaped.

Davina and Dermot even seem to like making bitchy comments about Nicky. What has she done wrong?

There are many woman haters here as well, "Miserable cow!" They say about Nicky. Well I say they're miserable fools. What do they want? Barbie doll morons like the twins who just squeal 'Pink!' a lot. Creeps.

I am finished with my spirited defence of Nicky. I hope you read it with a sound mind.


Liam is a backstabber- when compared to nicky?!

I think she IS bland to be honest!

I like the line ‘she’s funny, she’s bitchy, she’s good hearted, she’s grumpy’ Yes- we noticed she was bitchy and grumpy, it’s just funny how they say it as if it’s a good thing!

Yes- nicky protected charley over the chants which annoyed me no end! Charley seems to be the only housemate she is too scared to backstab!

She warned chanelle about ziggy… (read interfered)

There’s good in charley??

The twins are fun and not obnoxious like nicky- I don’t think that makes them creeps.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I read this on DS that someone posted and i just HAVE to post it. I agree with it 1000000% (about Nicky btw)

I like her. I make no bones about it. She's real - she's not a caricature like the twins, she's not bland like backstabbing Liam and she's not an irritating woman controller like Ziggy. Yet she's hated by many people on this forum and Gerry, the vile fat pest, will survive an eviction.

She's funny, she's bitchy, she's good hearted, she's grumpy. She's a normal person who is actually good in the house. When the bitchy housemates were desperate to tell Charley about the chants, wasn't it Nicky who stepped in and said: "She doesn't need to know that."

Wasn't it Nicky that warned Chanelle about Ziggy? Yes. She could see him from a mile off. But nobody listened. Nicky was the first to see the good in Charley and then everyone (post fake eviction) jumped on the bandwagon. She refused to run away when Emily made her racist comment and stood her ground when she was called to the diary room even when Charley escaped.

Davina and Dermot even seem to like making bitchy comments about Nicky. What has she done wrong?

There are many woman haters here as well, "Miserable cow!" They say about Nicky. Well I say they're miserable fools. What do they want? Barbie doll morons like the twins who just squeal 'Pink!' a lot. Creeps.

I am finished with my spirited defence of Nicky. I hope you read it with a sound mind.
What she has done wrong is be misrable 24/7, she constantly bitches about HM's having fun, telling them to shut up (not to their faces), and lastly she is a sexist cow

1. Shes not miserable 24/7 as on the Live feed shes bein happy and funny.
2. People forget that Nicky is 28 years old. Not everyone LOVES to run around having water fights, how can seh be criticised for disapproving of the immaturity of most people in there.
Carole has more fun than her! and shes 50 odd

[CassetteFinger]

Im sorry i think its to late people are set on kicking nicky out.

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

i watch the live feed, and on most nights, nicky is having loads of fun, dancing around an everything, and i think the editors have some kind of grudge against her and make her look miserable, because yes, nicky is a miserable cow (sometimes), but on most nights she is really fun and exiting, the editors are making her look 10000x worse than she actually is, she really isnt all that bad

[Billy]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I read this on DS that someone posted and i just HAVE to post it. I agree with it 1000000% (about Nicky btw)

I like her. I make no bones about it. She's real - she's not a caricature like the twins, she's not bland like backstabbing Liam and she's not an irritating woman controller like Ziggy. Yet she's hated by many people on this forum and Gerry, the vile fat pest, will survive an eviction.

She's funny, she's bitchy, she's good hearted, she's grumpy. She's a normal person who is actually good in the house. When the bitchy housemates were desperate to tell Charley about the chants, wasn't it Nicky who stepped in and said: "She doesn't need to know that."

Wasn't it Nicky that warned Chanelle about Ziggy? Yes. She could see him from a mile off. But nobody listened. Nicky was the first to see the good in Charley and then everyone (post fake eviction) jumped on the bandwagon. She refused to run away when Emily made her racist comment and stood her ground when she was called to the diary room even when Charley escaped.

Davina and Dermot even seem to like making bitchy comments about Nicky. What has she done wrong?

There are many woman haters here as well, "Miserable cow!" They say about Nicky. Well I say they're miserable fools. What do they want? Barbie doll morons like the twins who just squeal 'Pink!' a lot. Creeps.

I am finished with my spirited defence of Nicky. I hope you read it with a sound mind.


Liam is a backstabber- when compared to nicky?!

I think she IS bland to be honest!

I like the line ‘she’s funny, she’s bitchy, she’s good hearted, she’s grumpy’ Yes- we noticed she was bitchy and grumpy, it’s just funny how they say it as if it’s a good thing!

Yes- nicky protected charley over the chants which annoyed me no end! Charley seems to be the only housemate she is too scared to backstab!

She warned chanelle about ziggy… (read interfered)

There’s good in charley??

The twins are fun and not obnoxious like nicky- I don’t think that makes them creeps.

1. to be fair, nickys said what shes had to say to peoples faces too.
2. She is grumpy no denying that. SHE IS A PERSON. Not everyone is happy 24/7
3. That shows shes a nice person, trying to protect her with chants.
4. Once again, showing shes nice and caring by trying to warn Chanelle aboud Ziggy.
5. I dont agree when the person on DS said the twins were creeps though

[JeanP!]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
How boring would it be, if all the housemates in there were like the twins ie like santa on prozac? `

Thanks God that they're not like Nicky or Charley :banana:

[Billy]

thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

[Abraxas]

I watch the live feed and other housemates are made to look bad too. I'm watching now actually and nicky looks miserable as always, outside earlier smoking with tracy.

[Matt]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
i watch the live feed, and on most nights, nicky is having loads of fun, dancing around an everything, and i think the editors have some kind of grudge against her and make her look miserable, because yes, nicky is a miserable cow (sometimes), but on most nights she is really fun and exiting, the editors are making her look 10000x worse than she actually is, she really isnt all that bad

No. Nicky is a miserable cow most of the time.

Fun and exciting? My a***.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Jp!
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
How boring would it be, if all the housemates in there were like the twins ie like santa on prozac? `

Thanks God that they're not like Nicky or Charley :banana:

Exactly, how boring would it be if they were all the same? When the show started, there were complaints that it was all dumb blonde wannabes goin in, and when an actual REAL person, who DOES have bad days like a NORMAL person goes in, people hate on her. She is just a normal person god, that has good and bad days like everyone

[CassetteFinger]

i only judge on the highlights like most :thumbs:

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by Abraxas
I watch the live feed and other housemates are made to look bad too. I'm watching now actually and nicky looks miserable as always, outside earlier smoking with tracy.

she is probably is like that just now, but on most nights she has loads of fun! like when they did the ordering task, when it had finished, nicky was jumping all over the stands singing 'girls just wanna have fun', now how is that miserable?

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Jp!
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
How boring would it be, if all the housemates in there were like the twins ie like santa on prozac? `

Thanks God that they're not like Nicky or Charley :banana:

Exactly, how boring would it be if they were all the same? When the show started, there were complaints that it was all dumb blonde wannabes goin in, and when an actual REAL person, who DOES have bad days like a NORMAL person goes in, people hate on her. She is just a normal person god, that has good and bad days like everyone She was misrable since day 3, she should cheer up, not everyone gets the chance to be on Tv 6 Nights a week

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Jp!
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
How boring would it be, if all the housemates in there were like the twins ie like santa on prozac? `

Thanks God that they're not like Nicky or Charley :banana:

Exactly, how boring would it be if they were all the same? When the show started, there were complaints that it was all dumb blonde wannabes goin in, and when an actual REAL person, who DOES have bad days like a NORMAL person goes in, people hate on her. She is just a normal person god, that has good and bad days like everyone She was misrable since day 3, she should cheer up, not everyone gets the chance to be on Tv 6 Nights a week

She is not always miserable? Thats like criticising the twins for always being happy just as annoying. Anyways Nicky is happy aswell, just cos seh doesnt go screaming around half naked doesnt mean shes miserable

[Billy]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

Lol I doubt it, good thinkin though lol

[Matt]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

That wouldn't matter because she does hate men.

She's a sexist pig.

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I read this on DS that someone posted and i just HAVE to post it. I agree with it 1000000% (about Nicky btw)

I like her. I make no bones about it. She's real - she's not a caricature like the twins, she's not bland like backstabbing Liam and she's not an irritating woman controller like Ziggy. Yet she's hated by many people on this forum and Gerry, the vile fat pest, will survive an eviction.

She's funny, she's bitchy, she's good hearted, she's grumpy. She's a normal person who is actually good in the house. When the bitchy housemates were desperate to tell Charley about the chants, wasn't it Nicky who stepped in and said: "She doesn't need to know that."

Wasn't it Nicky that warned Chanelle about Ziggy? Yes. She could see him from a mile off. But nobody listened. Nicky was the first to see the good in Charley and then everyone (post fake eviction) jumped on the bandwagon. She refused to run away when Emily made her racist comment and stood her ground when she was called to the diary room even when Charley escaped.

Davina and Dermot even seem to like making bitchy comments about Nicky. What has she done wrong?

There are many woman haters here as well, "Miserable cow!" They say about Nicky. Well I say they're miserable fools. What do they want? Barbie doll morons like the twins who just squeal 'Pink!' a lot. Creeps.

I am finished with my spirited defence of Nicky. I hope you read it with a sound mind.


Liam is a backstabber- when compared to nicky?!

I think she IS bland to be honest!

I like the line ‘she’s funny, she’s bitchy, she’s good hearted, she’s grumpy’ Yes- we noticed she was bitchy and grumpy, it’s just funny how they say it as if it’s a good thing!

Yes- nicky protected charley over the chants which annoyed me no end! Charley seems to be the only housemate she is too scared to backstab!

She warned chanelle about ziggy… (read interfered)

There’s good in charley??

The twins are fun and not obnoxious like nicky- I don’t think that makes them creeps.

1. to be fair, nickys said what shes had to say to peoples faces too.
2. She is grumpy no denying that. SHE IS A PERSON. Not everyone is happy 24/7
3. That shows shes a nice person, trying to protect her with chants.
4. Once again, showing shes nice and caring by trying to warn Chanelle aboud Ziggy.
5. I dont agree when the person on DS said the twins were creeps though


That’s a bit naïve. Nickys motives run deeper than being nice and caring!

Why does she choose to protect charley but not other housemates?

Grumpy some of the time- try ALL of the time! And I think she bitches, then feels guilty and says it to the persons face.

She annoys me how she always tries to rationalise her behaviour to charley after as well, thinking she is never in the wrong.

Sorry, but I just don’t like her!

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Jp!
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
How boring would it be, if all the housemates in there were like the twins ie like santa on prozac? `

Thanks God that they're not like Nicky or Charley :banana:

Exactly, how boring would it be if they were all the same? When the show started, there were complaints that it was all dumb blonde wannabes goin in, and when an actual REAL person, who DOES have bad days like a NORMAL person goes in, people hate on her. She is just a normal person god, that has good and bad days like everyone She was misrable since day 3, she should cheer up, not everyone gets the chance to be on Tv 6 Nights a week

She is not always miserable? Thats like criticising the twins for always being happy just as annoying. Anyways Nicky is happy aswell, just cos seh doesnt go screaming around half naked doesnt mean shes miserable I'd rather watch people being constantly happy than being almost constantly un-happy, Nicky belongs on EastEnders

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

Lol I doubt it, good thinkin though lol

well theres something fishy going on, really, because one night nicky was jumping around singing girls just wanna have fun, and that didnt make the highlights, but chanelle and ziggy did, its the editors making her look bad!

[Billy]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I read this on DS that someone posted and i just HAVE to post it. I agree with it 1000000% (about Nicky btw)

I like her. I make no bones about it. She's real - she's not a caricature like the twins, she's not bland like backstabbing Liam and she's not an irritating woman controller like Ziggy. Yet she's hated by many people on this forum and Gerry, the vile fat pest, will survive an eviction.

She's funny, she's bitchy, she's good hearted, she's grumpy. She's a normal person who is actually good in the house. When the bitchy housemates were desperate to tell Charley about the chants, wasn't it Nicky who stepped in and said: "She doesn't need to know that."

Wasn't it Nicky that warned Chanelle about Ziggy? Yes. She could see him from a mile off. But nobody listened. Nicky was the first to see the good in Charley and then everyone (post fake eviction) jumped on the bandwagon. She refused to run away when Emily made her racist comment and stood her ground when she was called to the diary room even when Charley escaped.

Davina and Dermot even seem to like making bitchy comments about Nicky. What has she done wrong?

There are many woman haters here as well, "Miserable cow!" They say about Nicky. Well I say they're miserable fools. What do they want? Barbie doll morons like the twins who just squeal 'Pink!' a lot. Creeps.

I am finished with my spirited defence of Nicky. I hope you read it with a sound mind.


Liam is a backstabber- when compared to nicky?!

I think she IS bland to be honest!

I like the line ‘she’s funny, she’s bitchy, she’s good hearted, she’s grumpy’ Yes- we noticed she was bitchy and grumpy, it’s just funny how they say it as if it’s a good thing!

Yes- nicky protected charley over the chants which annoyed me no end! Charley seems to be the only housemate she is too scared to backstab!

She warned chanelle about ziggy… (read interfered)

There’s good in charley??

The twins are fun and not obnoxious like nicky- I don’t think that makes them creeps.

1. to be fair, nickys said what shes had to say to peoples faces too.
2. She is grumpy no denying that. SHE IS A PERSON. Not everyone is happy 24/7
3. That shows shes a nice person, trying to protect her with chants.
4. Once again, showing shes nice and caring by trying to warn Chanelle aboud Ziggy.
5. I dont agree when the person on DS said the twins were creeps though


That’s a bit naïve. Nickys motives run deeper than being nice and caring!

Why does she choose to protect charley but not other housemates?

Grumpy some of the time- try ALL of the time! And I think she bitches, then feels guilty and says it to the persons face.

She annoys me how she always tries to rationalise her behaviour to charley after as well, thinking she is never in the wrong.

Sorry, but I just don’t like her!

1. She has been trying to protect Chanelle aswell
2. Not all of the time, she has been happy loads on live
3. She still says it to there face, so what if she feels guilty

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

That wouldn't matter because she does hate men.

She's a sexist pig. agree 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Racism isnt tolerated
homo-phobicism isnt tolorated
so why is sexism

[CharlotteSometimes]

Weird. I just spent 5 minutes replying to this, but when I clicked on 'Post Reply', it said that the topic doesn't exist.

[Abraxas]

I just don't like her. She is constantly moaning, bitching and starting arguments but most of all I just find her really boring so I still say get her out!

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

That wouldn't matter because she does hate men.

She's a sexist pig. agree 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Racism isnt tolerated
homo-phobicism isnt tolorated
so why is sexism

Cos she hates men? She still talks to them nicely and polite around them, just cos she dont like them doesnt mean its ANYTHING like racism. She doesnt insult anyone for being male does she?

[Matt]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

That wouldn't matter because she does hate men.

She's a sexist pig. agree 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Racism isnt tolerated
homo-phobicism isnt tolorated
so why is sexism

Exactly.

I also found the all-female launch kinda sexist.

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

could everybody read this post:

yes, the nation see nicky as a sexist miserable cow who belongs on eastenders, because that is how she is shown, because for some reason, nickys good side is never shown on the highlights, she only is made to look like a miserable cow, she isnt like that really, i mean, example:

tonight, it showed all the hms having a waterfight, then it kept zooming in on nicky who has having a sleep, and that to me was like the editors saying:

'look at her, shes a miserable cow, they are all having fun and she is asleep'

what happened in tonights hl show just proves they want nicky to look bad, because why show somebody sleeping when there is a waterfight going on? they want nicky to look bad for some reason, but she isnt like that always, i have seen her live having loads of fun

[Billy]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
could everybody read this post:

yes, the nation see nicky as a sexist miserable cow who belongs on eastenders, because that is how she is shown, because for some reason, nickys good side is never shown on the highlights, she only is made to look like a miserable cow, she isnt like that really, i mean, example:

tonight, it showed all the hms having a waterfight, then it kept zooming in on nicky who has having a sleep, and that to me was like the editors saying:

'look at her, shes a miserable cow, they are all having fun and she is asleep'

what happened in tonights hl show just proves they want nicky to look bad, because why show somebody sleeping when there is a waterfight going on? they want nicky to look bad for some reason, but she isnt like that always, i have seen her live having loads of fun

Exactly, shes done plenty of things in there that dont get shown.

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

That wouldn't matter because she does hate men.

She's a sexist pig. agree 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Racism isnt tolerated
homo-phobicism isnt tolorated
so why is sexism

Cos she hates men? She still talks to them nicely and polite around them, just cos she dont like them doesnt mean its ANYTHING like racism. She doesnt insult anyone for being male does she?


Would it be ok for a man to not like women or gay people but instead of keeping it to himself- give a sexist or homophobic comment about them every so often?

I think it's a pretty good reason not to like someone and to be honest it's not the only reason.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

That wouldn't matter because she does hate men.

She's a sexist pig. agree 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Racism isnt tolerated
homo-phobicism isnt tolorated
so why is sexism

Cos she hates men? She still talks to them nicely and polite around them, just cos she dont like them doesnt mean its ANYTHING like racism. She doesnt insult anyone for being male does she?


Would it be ok for a man to not like women or gay people but instead of keeping it to himself- give a sexist or homophobic comment about them every so often?

I think it's a pretty good reason not to like someone and to be honest it's not the only reason.

Thats what Im saying. At least sehs polite about it, and isnt nasty towards men in the house

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

That wouldn't matter because she does hate men.

She's a sexist pig. agree 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Racism isnt tolerated
homo-phobicism isnt tolorated
so why is sexism

Exactly.

I also found the all-female launch kinda sexist. Yeah it was I mean if it launched with all-white people..well Of-their heads-com would have something to say

[Matt]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

That wouldn't matter because she does hate men.

She's a sexist pig. agree 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Racism isnt tolerated
homo-phobicism isnt tolorated
so why is sexism

Cos she hates men? She still talks to them nicely and polite around them, just cos she dont like them doesnt mean its ANYTHING like racism. She doesnt insult anyone for being male does she?


Would it be ok for a man to not like women or gay people but instead of keeping it to himself- give a sexist or homophobic comment about them every so often?

I think it's a pretty good reason not to like someone and to be honest it's not the only reason.

Nicky doesn't specifically hate one man though.

She hates the male race.

[Abraxas]

I don't think you understood what I was saying. She has been nasty to/ about certain men in the house and has said sexist comments.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
thank you Laura. Ive been saying this for the past flaming week but nobody agrees. She is not as bvad as people make her out to be

this may sound really stupid, but i have a theory:

what if all the editors of the show are men? maybe they are just so childish and immature that they want to make nicky seem horrid because she said she hates men, i know it sounds stupid but it probably is true

That wouldn't matter because she does hate men.

She's a sexist pig. agree 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Racism isnt tolerated
homo-phobicism isnt tolorated
so why is sexism

Cos she hates men? She still talks to them nicely and polite around them, just cos she dont like them doesnt mean its ANYTHING like racism. She doesnt insult anyone for being male does she?


Would it be ok for a man to not like women or gay people but instead of keeping it to himself- give a sexist or homophobic comment about them every so often?

I think it's a pretty good reason not to like someone and to be honest it's not the only reason.

Nicky doesn't specifically hate one man though.

She hates the male race. So we hate her back

[Matt]

Originally posted by Abraxas
I don't think you understood what I was saying. She has been nasty to/ about certain men in the house and has said sexist comments.

I did, and I responded by saying it wasn't just specific men she hated, but the entire Male species.

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by Abraxas
I don't think you understood what I was saying. She has been nasty to/ about certain men in the house and has said sexist comments.

I did, and I responded by saying it wasn't just specific men she hated, but the entire Male species.

I meant potentialsuperstar with that answer.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by Abraxas
I don't think you understood what I was saying. She has been nasty to/ about certain men in the house and has said sexist comments.

I did, and I responded by saying it wasn't just specific men she hated, but the entire Male species. Women wont understand sexism, because, what men dont like women?

[Verloren]

If there was a male, sexist pig in the house, you’d hate him too potentialsuperstar. Like antparker said, she hates men, we hate her back, simple as!

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably

[CharlotteSometimes]

This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably

How is that racist? Oh dear...

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

[Matt]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably

So what do you have to say about what the women did tonight?

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself. she's said it lately too, and sexism is a type of discrimination

[Verloren]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

Exactly.

If it was a male hating a female they would be publically mauled.

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

sorry, but thats not rubbish, i find it hard to believe that every single man in the house was in the diary room that night except for one, and the one that was singled out and not invited was gerry, who is gay, and while in the diary room, they kept saying things like 'one for the men', and stuff like that, so basically all the men in the house decided to have a little get-together, but didnt invite gerry because he is gay, now that is homophobic

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Verloren
No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.
Really? Victor seemed to do rather well out of it on BB5. Opinions have to be based on fact to be taken seriously.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

sorry, but thats not rubbish, i find it hard to believe that every single man in the house was in the diary room that night except for one, and the one that was singled out and not invited was gerry, who is gay, and while in the diary room, they kept saying things like 'one for the men', and stuff like that, so basically all the men in the house decided to have a little get-together, but didnt invite gerry because he is gay, now that is homophobic They are mates with Gerry, they didnt invite him because they didnt think of inviting him they thought, "lets get Johnathan in here, and give him a farewell drink" they didnt think "lets not invite Gerry because hes gay"

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

sorry, but thats not rubbish, i find it hard to believe that every single man in the house was in the diary room that night except for one, and the one that was singled out and not invited was gerry, who is gay, and while in the diary room, they kept saying things like 'one for the men', and stuff like that, so basically all the men in the house decided to have a little get-together, but didnt invite gerry because he is gay, now that is homophobic

They forgot to invite him! None of them said they didn't invite him because he was gay. Where did you get that from? You seem to be making things up to strengthen your argument.

Also, why are you making a big deal out of that? It was nothing and I thought this was about nicky not the guys?

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Verloren
No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.
Really? Victor seemed to do rather well out of it on BB5. Opinions have to be based on fact to be taken seriously.

I believe there is evidence that nicky is sexist actually. She often admits it herself. I agree a man doing the same would be hated.

[Matt]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Verloren
No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.
Really? Victor seemed to do rather well out of it on BB5. Opinions have to be based on fact to be taken seriously.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, fact or no fact.

Just because Verloren thinks she is a sexist pig --- which she clearly is --- you don't need to criticise him/her because you disagree.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

Nobody said you couldnt dislike Nicky, or say you couldnt have an opinion did they? So what if Nicky dislikes women, didnt Mikey was sexist in his VT, he still did well.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Verloren
No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.
Really? Victor seemed to do rather well out of it on BB5. Opinions have to be based on fact to be taken seriously.

I believe there is evidence that nicky is sexist actually. She often admits it herself. I agree a man doing the same would be hated. Exactly:thumbs:

[Matt]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

Nobody said you couldnt dislike Nicky, or say you couldnt have an opinion did they? So what if Nicky dislikes women, didnt Mikey was sexist in his VT, he still did well.

Difference between Mikey and Nicky is:

Nicky made it clear she hates men and she still does.

Mikey did it in his VT to make him look more interesting so he could get in to BB.

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

sorry, but thats not rubbish, i find it hard to believe that every single man in the house was in the diary room that night except for one, and the one that was singled out and not invited was gerry, who is gay, and while in the diary room, they kept saying things like 'one for the men', and stuff like that, so basically all the men in the house decided to have a little get-together, but didnt invite gerry because he is gay, now that is homophobic

They forgot to invite him! None of them said they didn't invite him because he was gay. Where did you get that from? You seem to be making things up to strengthen your argument.

Also, why are you making a big deal out of that? It was nothing and I thought this was about nicky not the guys?

actually, they specifically said 'lets get all the men together' when they got the beer, and they went out for jonothan and got him, while gerry was sat not two feet away from him, now how is that NOT homophobic? and im only bringing up the 'homophobic' card, because people constantly go on about racism, which is highly annoying considering that there is no racism since emily was evicted weeks ago, and if people can go on about racism, why i cant i discuss this?

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

Nobody said you couldnt dislike Nicky, or say you couldnt have an opinion did they? So what if Nicky dislikes women, didnt Mikey was sexist in his VT, he still did well. The thing is he was hated for it, also if he was sexist, then how come he had a relationship?

[Verloren]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Verloren
No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.
Really? Victor seemed to do rather well out of it on BB5. Opinions have to be based on fact to be taken seriously.


But how can you say nicky isn't sexist when she admitted she is a man hater and has continually said sexist comments about men in the house? Whether people choose to ignore that because they like nicky is up to them.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

Nobody said you couldnt dislike Nicky, or say you couldnt have an opinion did they? So what if Nicky dislikes women, didnt Mikey was sexist in his VT, he still did well.

Difference between Mikey and Nicky is:

Nicky made it clear she hates men and she still does.

Mikey did it in his VT to make him look more interesting so he could get in to BB.

Hows that? Nicky could have bene going through a relationship problem at the time, or even so she could have just said it to get on the show. At the end of the day, shes been pleasant to the men, and ahs showed no signs that she hates them because they are male

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

sorry, but thats not rubbish, i find it hard to believe that every single man in the house was in the diary room that night except for one, and the one that was singled out and not invited was gerry, who is gay, and while in the diary room, they kept saying things like 'one for the men', and stuff like that, so basically all the men in the house decided to have a little get-together, but didnt invite gerry because he is gay, now that is homophobic

They forgot to invite him! None of them said they didn't invite him because he was gay. Where did you get that from? You seem to be making things up to strengthen your argument.

Also, why are you making a big deal out of that? It was nothing and I thought this was about nicky not the guys?

actually, they specifically said 'lets get all the men together' when they got the beer, and they went out for jonothan and got him, while gerry was sat not two feet away from him, now how is that NOT homophobic? and Im only bringing up the 'homophobic' card, because people constantly go on about racism, which is highly annoying considering that there is no racism since emily was evicted weeks ago, and if people can go on about racism, why i cant i discuss this? We are on about SEXism not RACEism, the guys are best freinds with Gerry so they aint homophobic

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

Nobody said you couldnt dislike Nicky, or say you couldnt have an opinion did they? So what if Nicky dislikes women, didnt Mikey was sexist in his VT, he still did well. The thing is he was hated for it, also if he was sexist, then how come he had a relationship?

Errr Nicky liked Liam. How is seh sexist then? The exact same thing

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

Nobody said you couldnt dislike Nicky, or say you couldnt have an opinion did they? So what if Nicky dislikes women, didnt Mikey was sexist in his VT, he still did well. The thing is he was hated for it, also if he was sexist, then how come he had a relationship?

Errr Nicky liked Liam. How is seh sexist then? The exact same thing

You can be sexist and still like a particular person.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

Nobody said you couldnt dislike Nicky, or say you couldnt have an opinion did they? So what if Nicky dislikes women, didnt Mikey was sexist in his VT, he still did well.

Difference between Mikey and Nicky is:

Nicky made it clear she hates men and she still does.

Mikey did it in his VT to make him look more interesting so he could get in to BB.

Hows that? Nicky could have bene going through a relationship problem at the time, or even so she could have just said it to get on the show. At the end of the day, shes been pleasant to the men, and ahs showed no signs that she hates them because they are male She has called all men 'Vile creatures' TBH I dont like being called that

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

sorry, but thats not rubbish, i find it hard to believe that every single man in the house was in the diary room that night except for one, and the one that was singled out and not invited was gerry, who is gay, and while in the diary room, they kept saying things like 'one for the men', and stuff like that, so basically all the men in the house decided to have a little get-together, but didnt invite gerry because he is gay, now that is homophobic

They forgot to invite him! None of them said they didn't invite him because he was gay. Where did you get that from? You seem to be making things up to strengthen your argument.

Also, why are you making a big deal out of that? It was nothing and I thought this was about nicky not the guys?

actually, they specifically said 'lets get all the men together' when they got the beer, and they went out for jonothan and got him, while gerry was sat not two feet away from him, now how is that NOT homophobic? and Im only bringing up the 'homophobic' card, because people constantly go on about racism, which is highly annoying considering that there is no racism since emily was evicted weeks ago, and if people can go on about racism, why i cant i discuss this? We are on about SEXism not RACEism, the guys are best freinds with Gerry so they aint homophobic

Earlier you said homophobia is a form of discrimination, Laura is just wondering why nicky is getting stick for a form of discrimination when the boys have done the same. (i hope thats what your thinkinh Laura lol)

[Matt]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

Nobody said you couldnt dislike Nicky, or say you couldnt have an opinion did they? So what if Nicky dislikes women, didnt Mikey was sexist in his VT, he still did well.

Difference between Mikey and Nicky is:

Nicky made it clear she hates men and she still does.

Mikey did it in his VT to make him look more interesting so he could get in to BB.

Hows that? Nicky could have bene going through a relationship problem at the time, or even so she could have just said it to get on the show. At the end of the day, shes been pleasant to the men, and ahs showed no signs that she hates them because they are male

She makes it very clear in that house that she hates men. You even saw Ziggy nominate her tonight because of it.

So in effect, one of the reasons she is up for eviction this week is because she hates men...

[Billy]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
This 'man-hater' thing is tired, and needs putting to bed. She said it weeks ago, and none of us have any idea whether she had just cause to feel that way at the time, or not. It's not exactly unusual for women to go through a men-hating phase after a difficult break-up, for example. To try and compare that to homophobia or racism is absolutely ridiculous. You can't compare a genuine human emotion with calculated bigotry. I didn't notice her being particularly 'hateful' when Liam was flirting with her, either. If you want to dislike the girl, then that's your prerogative. But conducting a witch hunt based on non-existent prejudice is prejudiced in itself.

No, she is sexist and if a male was as bad they would be lynched by the female voters. It is my prerogative to dislike nicky for whatever reason I want. It’s called an opinion.

Nobody said you couldnt dislike Nicky, or say you couldnt have an opinion did they? So what if Nicky dislikes women, didnt Mikey was sexist in his VT, he still did well. The thing is he was hated for it, also if he was sexist, then how come he had a relationship?

Errr Nicky liked Liam. How is seh sexist then? The exact same thing

You can be sexist and still like a particular person.

Explain that to AntParker then cos "Mikey was in a relationship, so hes not sexist"

[Wasted]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

sorry, but thats not rubbish, i find it hard to believe that every single man in the house was in the diary room that night except for one, and the one that was singled out and not invited was gerry, who is gay, and while in the diary room, they kept saying things like 'one for the men', and stuff like that, so basically all the men in the house decided to have a little get-together, but didnt invite gerry because he is gay, now that is homophobic

They forgot to invite him! None of them said they didn't invite him because he was gay. Where did you get that from? You seem to be making things up to strengthen your argument.

Also, why are you making a big deal out of that? It was nothing and I thought this was about nicky not the guys?

I think Laura has a point, I was suspicious of that myself and wondered why Gerry wasn't invited. They didn't specify that they brought Jonathan in because he was leaving soon and because of the tragic news he received earlier. But they did specify that they wanted all the men in the Diary Room, and yet left out the only gay man.

Not to mention, Ziggy was there with Brian and Liam and has shown signs of homophobia before, it just makes me more suspicious.

Of course no-one can really know why Gerry wasn't invited to the Diary Room after they three boys had specifically said they wanted all the men in there, I'm only suspicious of why they excluded Gerry but I don't know for sure, neither can anyone else.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Verloren
But how can you say nicky isn't sexist when she admitted she is a man hater and has continually said sexist comments about men in the house? Whether people choose to ignore that because they like nicky is up to them.
I just move my index finger across the keyboard, and it appears like magic. I don't 'choose to ignore' anything - when it's factual. If you'd care to provide examples, then I may just re-evaluate my stance.

[Scarlett.]

Did he ever act sexist in the dairy room or around the hosue

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Verloren
But how can you say nicky isn't sexist when she admitted she is a man hater and has continually said sexist comments about men in the house? Whether people choose to ignore that because they like nicky is up to them.
I just move my index finger across the keyboard, and it appears like magic. I don't 'choose to ignore' anything - when it's factual. If you'd care to provide examples, then I may just re-evaluate my stance. Ok she said "All men are vile creatures"

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

it really makes me laugh how people call her a man hater, when she wanted a relationship with liam, but liam turned on her and started being mean to her by ignoring her etc, and before she went into the house her boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend!, now put yourself in her shoes:

you are a woman who is love with somebody (a man), who then goes and breaks your heart in the cruelest way, wouldnt you go off men for a while after that, or would you be like 'oh well, not all men are like that', sorry but you would hate men after that! it happens with men too, they go out with girls who then cheat on them, then the men say they have 'finished with girls', it happens all the time, now just because its happened to somebody who is on national telly, she is hated, which just isnt fair

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Antparker
Ok she said "All men are vile creatures"
When, and following what events in the house?

[Matt]

Originally posted by Antparker
Did he ever act sexist in the dairy room or around the hosue

Exactly.

[Rory]

The thing about this is, is that Big Brother isn't just "Normal People Living in a House" it has turned into a freakshow ever since BB5, really. So Nicky is a normal girl, yes, but people like freaks.

[Billy]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
it really makes me laugh how people call her a man hater, when she wanted a relationship with liam, but liam turned on her and started being mean to her by ignoring her etc, and before she went into the house her boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend!, now put yourself in her shoes:

you are a woman who is love with somebody (a man), who then goes and breaks your heart in the cruelest way, wouldnt you go off men for a while after that, or would you be like 'oh well, not all men are like that', sorry but you would hate men after that! it happens with men too, they go out with girls who then cheat on them, then the men say they have 'finished with girls', it happens all the time, now just because its happened to somebody who is on national telly, she is hated, which just isnt fair

I agree

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
it really makes me laugh how people call her a man hater, when she wanted a relationship with liam, but liam turned on her and started being mean to her by ignoring her etc, and before she went into the house her boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend!, now put yourself in her shoes:

you are a woman who is love with somebody (a man), who then goes and breaks your heart in the cruelest way, wouldnt you go off men for a while after that, or would you be like 'oh well, not all men are like that', sorry but you would hate men after that! it happens with men too, they go out with girls who then cheat on them, then the men say they have 'finished with girls', it happens all the time, now just because its happened to somebody who is on national telly, she is hated, which just isnt fair Men dont like being tarred with the same brush, just because some scumbag cheated on her

[Abraxas]

Ok…

1. Sexism is not about attraction. Nicky can be attracted to liam and STILL be sexist.

2. Forgetting to invite someone into the diary room- should not automatically make you presume he was prejudiced because he is gay.

3. Racism is when you prejudice against someone because of their race (how did that get in here?)

4. Live feed or not, people have formed their opinions and you don’t know if they watch the live feed or not so don’t just assume they don’t watch it.

[Billy]

Sorry but I find it hard to believe Nicky is just gonna come out with All men are vile

Charley - OMG I cant belive ziggy did that
Tracey - Deal with it
Nicky - btw all men are vile

theres obviously gonna be a situation which she said it in

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Antparker
Ok she said "All men are vile creatures"
When, and following what events in the house? It would be impossible to rerember the exact time and date, it was when she was bitching with the bitch almighty Charley at the smoking area

[Matt]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar

1. to be fair, nickys said what shes had to say to peoples faces too.
2. She is grumpy no denying that. SHE IS A PERSON. Not everyone is happy 24/7
3. That shows shes a nice person, trying to protect her with chants.
4. Once again, showing shes nice and caring by trying to warn Chanelle aboud Ziggy.
5. I dont agree when the person on DS said the twins were creeps though

1. Yeah.
2. She's not happy 24/7, she's grumpy 24/7.
3 & 4. Yeah, how very nice.
5. How could anyone think the twins are creeps?

[Verloren]

Funny how people forget things that don't support their argument. I for one do remember nicky saying all men are vile because I am male and found it offensive.

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

sorry, but thats not rubbish, i find it hard to believe that every single man in the house was in the diary room that night except for one, and the one that was singled out and not invited was gerry, who is gay, and while in the diary room, they kept saying things like 'one for the men', and stuff like that, so basically all the men in the house decided to have a little get-together, but didnt invite gerry because he is gay, now that is homophobic

They forgot to invite him! None of them said they didn't invite him because he was gay. Where did you get that from? You seem to be making things up to strengthen your argument.

Also, why are you making a big deal out of that? It was nothing and I thought this was about nicky not the guys?

I think Laura has a point, I was suspicious of that myself and wondered why Gerry wasn't invited. They didn't specify that they brought Jonathan in because he was leaving soon and because of the tragic news he received earlier. But they did specify that they wanted all the men in the Diary Room, and yet left out the only gay man.

Not to mention, Ziggy was there with Brian and Liam and has shown signs of homophobia before, it just makes me more suspicious.

Of course no-one can really know why Gerry wasn't invited to the Diary Room after they three boys had specifically said they wanted all the men in there, I'm only suspicious of why they excluded Gerry but I don't know for sure, neither can anyone else.

thats my point exactly, their exact words were 'lets get all the men', then they went and got jonothan (who was sitting on the same sofa as gerry!), but they never got gerry, now tell how that isnt homophobic? they said they were going to get 'ALL the men', and they did, but the only man they left out was gay, and that want just coincidence at all, because when liam went out to get jonothan, jonothan was sat on the sofas talking to gerry, they purposely (or maybe just liam) excluded gerry for some reason, and the obvious reason would because he was gay, and they wanted some sort of 'manly get together'. nicky is a saint compared to others.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Verloren
Funny how people forget things that don't support their argument. I for one do remember nicky saying all men are vile because I am male and found it offensive. Emily got kicked out for a offensive word
Charley got warned for an offencive word
so..
why not Nicky I too found it quite offensive

[Matt]

Originally posted by Verloren
Funny how people forget things that don't support their argument. I for one do remember nicky saying all men are vile because I am male and found it offensive.

Exactly.

All women are vile.













(DISCLAIMER: I don't actually find women vile.)

[Billy]

Originally posted by Verloren
Funny how people forget things that don't support their argument. I for one do remember nicky saying all men are vile because I am male and found it offensive.

Im male too and dont find it offensive. And i was just lookin over the Launch, what Nicky said was "I Cannot stand men at the moment" which means shes not in a place in her life where she wants men.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Antparker
It would be impossible to rerember the exact time and date, it was when she was bitching with the bitch almighty Charley at the smoking area
Right. It happened, but it's impossible to remember when.

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

sorry, but thats not rubbish, i find it hard to believe that every single man in the house was in the diary room that night except for one, and the one that was singled out and not invited was gerry, who is gay, and while in the diary room, they kept saying things like 'one for the men', and stuff like that, so basically all the men in the house decided to have a little get-together, but didnt invite gerry because he is gay, now that is homophobic

They forgot to invite him! None of them said they didn't invite him because he was gay. Where did you get that from? You seem to be making things up to strengthen your argument.

Also, why are you making a big deal out of that? It was nothing and I thought this was about nicky not the guys?

I think Laura has a point, I was suspicious of that myself and wondered why Gerry wasn't invited. They didn't specify that they brought Jonathan in because he was leaving soon and because of the tragic news he received earlier. But they did specify that they wanted all the men in the Diary Room, and yet left out the only gay man.

Not to mention, Ziggy was there with Brian and Liam and has shown signs of homophobia before, it just makes me more suspicious.

Of course no-one can really know why Gerry wasn't invited to the Diary Room after they three boys had specifically said they wanted all the men in there, I'm only suspicious of why they excluded Gerry but I don't know for sure, neither can anyone else.

thats my point exactly, their exact words were 'lets get all the men', then they went and got jonothan (who was sitting on the same sofa as gerry!), but they never got gerry, now tell how that isnt homophobic? they said they were going to get 'ALL the men', and they did, but the only man they left out was gay, and that want just coincidence at all, because when liam went out to get jonothan, jonothan was sat on the sofas talking to gerry, they purposely (or maybe just liam) excluded gerry for some reason, and the obvious reason would because he was gay, and they wanted some sort of 'manly get together'. nicky is a saint compared to others.

You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Antparker
It would be impossible to rerember the exact time and date, it was when she was bitching with the bitch almighty Charley at the smoking area
Right. It happened, but it's impossible to remember when. its like asking when did Charley say "bloody barstools (ba**ards)

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
it really makes me laugh how people call her a man hater, when she wanted a relationship with liam, but liam turned on her and started being mean to her by ignoring her etc, and before she went into the house her boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend!, now put yourself in her shoes:

you are a woman who is love with somebody (a man), who then goes and breaks your heart in the cruelest way, wouldnt you go off men for a while after that, or would you be like 'oh well, not all men are like that', sorry but you would hate men after that! it happens with men too, they go out with girls who then cheat on them, then the men say they have 'finished with girls', it happens all the time, now just because its happened to somebody who is on national telly, she is hated, which just isnt fair Men dont like being tarred with the same brush, just because some scumbag cheated on her

i know men dont like that, but just imagine:

you have a girlfriend who cheats on you, and because of that you say 'i hate all women', would you like people to hate you for saying that? because i have actually heard people say that after they have been cheated on

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Funny how people forget things that don't support their argument. I for one do remember nicky saying all men are vile because I am male and found it offensive.

Im male too and dont find it offensive. And i was just lookin over the Launch, what Nicky said was "I Cannot stand men at the moment" which means shes not in a place in her life where she wants men. but some people find it offensive, plus she has since said she hates all men

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Antparker
It would be impossible to rerember the exact time and date, it was when she was bitching with the bitch almighty Charley at the smoking area
Right. It happened, but it's impossible to remember when.

It isn't difficult to find clips of nicky being sexist

[Matt]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
it really makes me laugh how people call her a man hater, when she wanted a relationship with liam, but liam turned on her and started being mean to her by ignoring her etc, and before she went into the house her boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend!, now put yourself in her shoes:

you are a woman who is love with somebody (a man), who then goes and breaks your heart in the cruelest way, wouldnt you go off men for a while after that, or would you be like 'oh well, not all men are like that', sorry but you would hate men after that! it happens with men too, they go out with girls who then cheat on them, then the men say they have 'finished with girls', it happens all the time, now just because its happened to somebody who is on national telly, she is hated, which just isnt fair Men dont like being tarred with the same brush, just because some scumbag cheated on her

i know men dont like that, but just imagine:

you have a girlfriend who cheats on you, and because of that you say 'i hate all women', would you like people to hate you for saying that? because i have actually heard people say that after they have been cheated on

Why would anyone say that they hate all women just because one woman cheated on them? Anyone that does that deserves to be hated...

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Funny how people forget things that don't support their argument. I for one do remember nicky saying all men are vile because I am male and found it offensive.

Im male too and dont find it offensive. And i was just lookin over the Launch, what Nicky said was "I Cannot stand men at the moment" which means shes not in a place in her life where she wants men. but some people find it offensive, plus she has since said she hates all men

When? Did she just suddenly come out with this one day whilst being bored?

[Matt]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Funny how people forget things that don't support their argument. I for one do remember nicky saying all men are vile because I am male and found it offensive.

Im male too and dont find it offensive. And i was just lookin over the Launch, what Nicky said was "I Cannot stand men at the moment" which means shes not in a place in her life where she wants men. but some people find it offensive, plus she has since said she hates all men

When? Did she just suddenly come out with this one day whilst being bored?

She's said she's hated men since Day 1! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Funny how people forget things that don't support their argument. I for one do remember nicky saying all men are vile because I am male and found it offensive.

Im male too and dont find it offensive. And i was just lookin over the Launch, what Nicky said was "I Cannot stand men at the moment" which means shes not in a place in her life where she wants men. but some people find it offensive, plus she has since said she hates all men

When? Did she just suddenly come out with this one day whilst being bored? Like I said its immpossible to rerember what day, I mean I dont even know what day the sleeping task was never mind the day Nicky said that

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Antparker
its like asking when did Charley say "bloody barstools (ba**ards)
Hardly. I don't actually have a clue what your example is supposedly about. Anyone could post pretty much anything, and claim it happened.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Verloren
Funny how people forget things that don't support their argument. I for one do remember nicky saying all men are vile because I am male and found it offensive.

Im male too and dont find it offensive. And i was just lookin over the Launch, what Nicky said was "I Cannot stand men at the moment" which means shes not in a place in her life where she wants men. but some people find it offensive, plus she has since said she hates all men

When? Did she just suddenly come out with this one day whilst being bored?

She's said she's hated men since Day 1! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Erm, she said seh doesnt like men at this moment in her life.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Antparker
its like asking when did Charley say "bloody barstools (ba**ards)
Hardly. I don't actually have a clue what your example is supposedly about. Anyone could post pretty much anything, and claim it happened. Ok then I'll give you a clearer example, with out checking anywhere, what day did Billi and Charley argue about nominations

[Wasted]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
if we are on the subject of race/discrimination, try this:

a couple of weeks back, the men in the house got beer, and decided to keep it for themselves and not share, whats even more shocking is that they invited jonothan in but didnt invite gerry! so they excluded gerry and he is gay! thats the most racist thing ever probably they invited Johnathan because his Gran had just died

sorry, but thats not rubbish, i find it hard to believe that every single man in the house was in the diary room that night except for one, and the one that was singled out and not invited was gerry, who is gay, and while in the diary room, they kept saying things like 'one for the men', and stuff like that, so basically all the men in the house decided to have a little get-together, but didnt invite gerry because he is gay, now that is homophobic

They forgot to invite him! None of them said they didn't invite him because he was gay. Where did you get that from? You seem to be making things up to strengthen your argument.

Also, why are you making a big deal out of that? It was nothing and I thought this was about nicky not the guys?

I think Laura has a point, I was suspicious of that myself and wondered why Gerry wasn't invited. They didn't specify that they brought Jonathan in because he was leaving soon and because of the tragic news he received earlier. But they did specify that they wanted all the men in the Diary Room, and yet left out the only gay man.

Not to mention, Ziggy was there with Brian and Liam and has shown signs of homophobia before, it just makes me more suspicious.

Of course no-one can really know why Gerry wasn't invited to the Diary Room after they three boys had specifically said they wanted all the men in there, I'm only suspicious of why they excluded Gerry but I don't know for sure, neither can anyone else.

thats my point exactly, their exact words were 'lets get all the men', then they went and got jonothan (who was sitting on the same sofa as gerry!), but they never got gerry, now tell how that isnt homophobic? they said they were going to get 'ALL the men', and they did, but the only man they left out was gay, and that want just coincidence at all, because when liam went out to get jonothan, jonothan was sat on the sofas talking to gerry, they purposely (or maybe just liam) excluded gerry for some reason, and the obvious reason would because he was gay, and they wanted some sort of 'manly get together'. nicky is a saint compared to others.

You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.


Which is exactly what I did. I only focused on the facts, what was actually said, and what wasn't said.

They didn't say they were inviting Jonathan in because he was leaving soon and because of his tragic news earlier. So you can only assume or guess that was why Gerry was left out.

They did say that they wanted all the men there. They did have all the men in there, except for Gerry, who happens to be gay. So there is reason to assume from looking at the facts, as you said to do, that Gerry was excluded, possibly because of homophobia. Of course the fact that they didn't actually say they were leaving Gerry out because he was gay has to be considered, which is why I am suspicious but don't know for sure it was homophobic exclusion.

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday. [/quote]

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Antparker
its like asking when did Charley say "bloody barstools (ba**ards)
Hardly. I don't actually have a clue what your example is supposedly about. Anyone could post pretty much anything, and claim it happened.

I found a clip where she is particularly sexist. Perhaps you should search if you want still need proof.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Antparker
its like asking when did Charley say "bloody barstools (ba**ards)
Hardly. I don't actually have a clue what your example is supposedly about. Anyone could post pretty much anything, and claim it happened.

I found a clip where she is particularly sexist. Perhaps you should search if you want still need proof.

Link?

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic! [/quote]

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Antparker
Ok then I'll give you a clearer example, with out checking anywhere, what day did Billi and Charley argue about nominations
What's the relevance? A prolonged argument which featured heavily on the entire series, compared to a supposed one-liner that may or may not be lurking in a dusty corner somewhere?

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Antparker
its like asking when did Charley say "bloody barstools (ba**ards)
Hardly. I don't actually have a clue what your example is supposedly about. Anyone could post pretty much anything, and claim it happened.

I found a clip where she is particularly sexist. Perhaps you should search if you want still need proof.

Link?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b7ISskMiKE

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Antparker
Ok then I'll give you a clearer example, with out checking anywhere, what day did Billi and Charley argue about nominations
What's the relevance? A prolonged argument which featured heavily on the entire series, compared to a supposed one-liner that may or may not be lurking in a dusty corner somewhere? She said it because I can rerember feeling insulted and angry

[Billy]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky? [/quote]

for the second time, someone mentioned homophobia is a form of discrimination, so Laura was wondering why the boys werent bein hated when Nicky is...

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

[/quote]Why would anyone say that they hate all women just because one woman cheated on them? Anyone that does that deserves to be hated... [/quote]

matt, your obviously extremely narrow minded, i know for a fact that if i had been cheated on by a string of men, then i would go around saying that i hated men

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

for the second time, someone mentioned homophobia is a form of discrimination, so Laura was wondering why the boys werent bein hated when Nicky is... [/quote]

But it wasn't homophobic, they just forgot (for the second time).

[Matt]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Why would anyone say that they hate all women just because one woman cheated on them? Anyone that does that deserves to be hated...

matt, your obviously extremely narrow minded, i know for a fact that if i had been cheated on by a string of men, then i would go around saying that i hated men [/quote]

Different contexts. I said that if ONE woman cheated on a man, and that man then came to the conclusion that he hated women, then he deserved to be vilified, not by a STRING of women.

*Checks out link*

[Billy]

In that clip, she said she is NOT missing male company, and that it would be nice to have eye candy and a bit of a flirt. And then she said, all they will do is eat more and complain theres no beer, seriously how did you find that offensive??

[Wasted]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky? [/quote]

And Nicky gets on with the men as well, and is attracted to men. You said that this doesn't mean she isn't sexist. So why are you now saying just because they get on with Gerry, that it means they're not homophobic?

[Abraxas]

Hating or discriminating all members of one group because of the actions of a few in that group is never right in my opinion and doesn't make you look like a very nice person.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

for the second time, someone mentioned homophobia is a form of discrimination, so Laura was wondering why the boys werent bein hated when Nicky is...

But it wasn't homophobic, they just forgot (for the second time). [/quote]

err wasnt it you that said we should base stuff on facts? Did Ziggy appear and tell you they forgot? Or are we talking to Mystic Meg?

[Scarlett.]

I found that video offensive, Nicky IS sexist

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

And Nicky gets on with the men as well, and is attracted to men. You said that this doesn't mean she isn't sexist. So why are you now saying just because they get on with Gerry, that it means they're not homophobic? [/quote]

Because nicky has given sexist comments about men and said numerous times that she doesn't like them. The other men in the house have said no such things about gays.

[CassetteFinger]

Originally posted by Antparker
I found that video offensive, Nicky IS sexist

LOL.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Antparker
its like asking when did Charley say "bloody barstools (ba**ards)
Hardly. I don't actually have a clue what your example is supposedly about. Anyone could post pretty much anything, and claim it happened.

I found a clip where she is particularly sexist. Perhaps you should search if you want still need proof.

Link?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b7ISskMiKE

OH MY GOD!

HOW SEXIST IS THAT!

If she doesn't go on Friday then I'll lose all faith in the British public!

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
I found that video offensive, Nicky IS sexist

Lol no way was that video offensive

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

for the second time, someone mentioned homophobia is a form of discrimination, so Laura was wondering why the boys werent bein hated when Nicky is...

But it wasn't homophobic, they just forgot (for the second time).

err wasnt it you that said we should base stuff on facts? Did Ziggy appear and tell you they forgot? Or are we talking to Mystic Meg? [/quote]

So which fact are you going on when you say he MUST be homophobic hmm??

[Wasted]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

And Nicky gets on with the men as well, and is attracted to men. You said that this doesn't mean she isn't sexist. So why are you now saying just because they get on with Gerry, that it means they're not homophobic?

Because nicky has given sexist comments about men and said numerous times that she doesn't like them. The other men in the house have said no such things about gays. [/quote]

Actions speak louder than words, and there is reason to think that they are possibly homophobic.

Also, Ziggy for one, actually has spoken against gays.

He said "There's too many lesbians in this House", he called the girls lesbians as an insult, in a derogatory matter, and also the phrase "too many" was very telling indeed.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
I found that video offensive, Nicky IS sexist

Lol no way was that video offensive Well its like saying "all black people are muslims" when they arent (I could have used a strong one but, its best not to, since I dont even want to say it)

[Billy]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

for the second time, someone mentioned homophobia is a form of discrimination, so Laura was wondering why the boys werent bein hated when Nicky is...

But it wasn't homophobic, they just forgot (for the second time).

err wasnt it you that said we should base stuff on facts? Did Ziggy appear and tell you they forgot? Or are we talking to Mystic Meg?

So which fact are you going on when you say he MUST be homophobic hmm?? [/quote]

Im not. All im saying is that people are thinking NIcky is sexist, so why did the boys invite everyone in there except Gerry

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

And Nicky gets on with the men as well, and is attracted to men. You said that this doesn't mean she isn't sexist. So why are you now saying just because they get on with Gerry, that it means they're not homophobic?

Because nicky has given sexist comments about men and said numerous times that she doesn't like them. The other men in the house have said no such things about gays.

Actions speak louder than words, and there is reason to think that they are possibly homophobic.

Also, Ziggy for one, actually has spoken against gays.

He said "There's too many lesbians in this House", he called the girls lesbians as an insult, in a derogatory matter, and also the phrase "too many" was very telling indeed. [/quote]
Ziggys a slimeball we all know that

[Verloren]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
In that clip, she said she is NOT missing male company, and that it would be nice to have eye candy and a bit of a flirt. And then she said, all they will do is eat more and complain theres no beer, seriously how did you find that offensive??

Because that is not all men do. If I said all women are good for is cleaning and sex you would no doubt thing I was very sexist, so why should it be different for nicky. Double standards!?

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
I found that video offensive, Nicky IS sexist

Lol no way was that video offensive Well its like saying "all black people are muslims" when they arent (I could have used a strong one but, its best not to, since I dont even want to say it)

Its like saying, girls would just come in and talk about makeup and doing each others hair. Laura, would you find that offensive?

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Verloren
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
In that clip, she said she is NOT missing male company, and that it would be nice to have eye candy and a bit of a flirt. And then she said, all they will do is eat more and complain theres no beer, seriously how did you find that offensive??

Because that is not all men do. If I said all women are good for is cleaning and sex you would no doubt thing I was very sexist, so why should it be different for nicky. Double standards!? here here!! agree 100%

[gowildcats]

OMG stop quiting! its too much! you are using up one page for two statements

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by gowildcats
OMG stop quiting! its too much! you are using up one page for two statements Sorry we get caught up in the heat of debate lol

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

And Nicky gets on with the men as well, and is attracted to men. You said that this doesn't mean she isn't sexist. So why are you now saying just because they get on with Gerry, that it means they're not homophobic?

Because nicky has given sexist comments about men and said numerous times that she doesn't like them. The other men in the house have said no such things about gays.

Actions speak louder than words, and there is reason to think that they are possibly homophobic.

Also, Ziggy for one, actually has spoken against gays.

He said "There's too many lesbians in this House", he called the girls lesbians as an insult, in a derogatory matter, and also the phrase "too many" was very telling indeed. [/quote]


Sounds less like fact and more like speculation to me. Nicky has been much more obvious with her sexism and even vocalised it.

[gowildcats]

or just quote the last statement or something!

[Matt]

Looking back on previous nomination results, I was unsurprised to find that out of every nomination she has made, she has only once nominated a female housemate.

Just a coincedence? You decide...

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Matt
Looking back on previous nomination results, I was unsurprised to find that out of every nomination she has made, she has only once nominated a female housemate.

Just a coincedence? You decide... Not a coincidence

[Abraxas]

Sorry!

[Billy]

Originally posted by Matt
Looking back on previous nomination results, I was unsurprised to find that out of every nomination she has made, she has only once nominated a female housemate.

Just a coincedence? You decide...

Or it could be, she bonded with the girls more :conf2:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Matt
Looking back on previous nomination results, I was unsurprised to find that out of every nomination she has made, she has only once nominated a female housemate.

Just a coincedence? You decide...

Or it could be, she bonded with the girls more :conf2: Why? because she stays away from males - sexist

[Billy]

Okay so Ill repeat, by that youtube clip, it said men would just eat more and complain about beer. But then, its just the same as men saying girls would just do makeup and do hair, and thats not offensive

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Matt
Looking back on previous nomination results, I was unsurprised to find that out of every nomination she has made, she has only once nominated a female housemate.

Just a coincedence? You decide...

Or it could be, she bonded with the girls more :conf2: Why? because she stays away from males - sexist

Thats gettin ridiculous now. Maybe because they girls were in first, and bonded first?

[Wasted]

Originally posted by Abraxas



Sounds less like fact and more like speculation to me. Nicky has been much more obvious with her sexism and even vocalised it.

It's speculation based on fact, check my past posts on this thread. You were saying they invited Jonathan in because of the bad news he received and he was leaving soon. They didn't actually say that was their reason for inviting him, but did say they wanted all the men in there. So what you were saying earlier has less fact, and more speculation than what I have said.

Nicky's sexism is obvious, so are you saying that just because Ziggy's homophobia is less obvious, still exists, but is just less obvious, that it means it doesn't matter as much? And as I said, Ziggy vocalised it as well.

EDIT; took off some of the quotes, too many!

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Okay so Ill repeat, by that youtube clip, it said men would just eat more and complain about beer. But then, its just the same as men saying girls would just do makeup and do hair, and thats not offensive Make-up is what girls do, its almost natural, but she used comments like eat more scratch their balls then eat more

[Verloren]

Should we end this argument by simply voting out the person we like the least instead!? After all that is what bb is about! All the side issues don't matter, It's gerry vs nicky, nothing to do with whether ziggy is homophobic.

So if nicky really is seen as such a nice person, perhaps she will stay but it seems to me that lots of people out there clearly don't like her and the way she has come across since being in bb.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Okay so Ill repeat, by that youtube clip, it said men would just eat more and complain about beer. But then, its just the same as men saying girls would just do makeup and do hair, and thats not offensive Make-up is what girls do, its almost natural, but she used comments like eat more scratch their balls then eat more

No its not, not ALL girls wear makeup. Eat more and scratch there balls is what men tend to do aswell

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Antparker
She said it because I can rerember feeling insulted and angry
Sorry, but you've yet to persuade me. You're in no way obliged to prove it, of course. It's a forum after all, not a court of law. But until you have proved it, my opinion will remain unchanged.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Verloren
Should we end this argument by simply voting out the person we like the least instead!? After all that is what bb is about! All the side issues don't matter, It's gerry vs nicky, nothing to do with whether ziggy is homophobic.

So if nicky really is seen as such a nice person, perhaps she will stay but it seems to me that lots of people out there clearly don't like her and the way she has come across since being in bb.

the whole point of the topic wasn't to see who was liked more. We know whos liked more on here and who isnt.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Okay so Ill repeat, by that youtube clip, it said men would just eat more and complain about beer. But then, its just the same as men saying girls would just do makeup and do hair, and thats not offensive Make-up is what girls do, its almost natural, but she used comments like eat more scratch their balls then eat more

No its not, not ALL girls wear barbies. Eat more and scratch there balls is what men tend to do aswell saying girls put make-up on is not a bad comment, saying man eat more is negative, which is what Nicky is

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Okay so Ill repeat, by that youtube clip, it said men would just eat more and complain about beer. But then, its just the same as men saying girls would just do makeup and do hair, and thats not offensive Make-up is what girls do, its almost natural, but she used comments like eat more scratch their balls then eat more

No its not, not ALL girls wear barbies. Eat more and scratch there balls is what men tend to do aswell saying girls put make-up on is not a bad comment, saying man eat more is negative, which is what Nicky is

but men DO eat more, its been proven.

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by Verloren
Should we end this argument by simply voting out the person we like the least instead!? After all that is what bb is about! All the side issues don't matter, It's gerry vs nicky, nothing to do with whether ziggy is homophobic.

So if nicky really is seen as such a nice person, perhaps she will stay but it seems to me that lots of people out there clearly don't like her and the way she has come across since being in bb.

I agree to that + it's late and there's better things to do than stay awake all night talking about nicky.

[Matt]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Matt
Looking back on previous nomination results, I was unsurprised to find that out of every nomination she has made, she has only once nominated a female housemate.

Just a coincedence? You decide...

Or it could be, she bonded with the girls more :conf2:

Exactly, because she's sexist...

It also stands as no surprise that with a total of 20 nominations she is officially the most nominated housemate of the series.

[gowildcats]

I for one, have friends that say they hate men at some point or another, but its never really true, its just an event that makes them say that. Everyone has a dad and brothers, they cant hate men altogether, thats ridiculous. As for Nicky, thats the only gimmick or interesting part of her that could have gotten her in the show. What other reason do you think there is to put Nicky on BB? She doenst have anything controvesial about her, ir really interesting apart from the man hating thing. And as for her nominations, its obvious shegets along with all the girls, other than carole. Thats why only the guys nominate her. If she hated men so much, she wouldnt open up to Liam like she did. And at that point she didnt hate men did she. But after Liam did a 180 on her, of course she is back to hating men. Just a front I will say, tio not get hurt!

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Verloren
Should we end this argument by simply voting out the person we like the least instead!? After all that is what bb is about! All the side issues don't matter, It's gerry vs nicky, nothing to do with whether ziggy is homophobic.

So if nicky really is seen as such a nice person, perhaps she will stay but it seems to me that lots of people out there clearly don't like her and the way she has come across since being in bb.
LOL! Should we end this discussion simply by letting you have the last word, whether we disagree or not? :joker:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Okay so Ill repeat, by that youtube clip, it said men would just eat more and complain about beer. But then, its just the same as men saying girls would just do makeup and do hair, and thats not offensive Make-up is what girls do, its almost natural, but she used comments like eat more scratch their balls then eat more

No its not, not ALL girls wear barbies. Eat more and scratch there balls is what men tend to do aswell saying girls put make-up on is not a bad comment, saying man eat more is negative, which is what Nicky is

but men DO eat more, its been proven. thats because men are bigger than women any way lets just leave it at Nicky is Sexist

[Billy]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Matt
Looking back on previous nomination results, I was unsurprised to find that out of every nomination she has made, she has only once nominated a female housemate.

Just a coincedence? You decide...

Or it could be, she bonded with the girls more :conf2:

Exactly, because she's sexist...

It also stands as no surprise that with a total of 20 nominations she is officially the most nominated housemate of the series.

So because she bonded with girls shes sexist? It couldnt have anything to do with the fact that the girls were there three days before any men arrived, so they had more time to bond.

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Verloren
Should we end this argument by simply voting out the person we like the least instead!? After all that is what bb is about! All the side issues don't matter, It's gerry vs nicky, nothing to do with whether ziggy is homophobic.

So if nicky really is seen as such a nice person, perhaps she will stay but it seems to me that lots of people out there clearly don't like her and the way she has come across since being in bb.
LOL! Should we end this discussion simply by letting you have the last word, whether we disagree or not? :joker:

Hmm... Somehow, I think we already know you will have to get the last word.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Okay so Ill repeat, by that youtube clip, it said men would just eat more and complain about beer. But then, its just the same as men saying girls would just do makeup and do hair, and thats not offensive Make-up is what girls do, its almost natural, but she used comments like eat more scratch their balls then eat more

No its not, not ALL girls wear barbies. Eat more and scratch there balls is what men tend to do aswell saying girls put make-up on is not a bad comment, saying man eat more is negative, which is what Nicky is

but men DO eat more, its been proven. thats because men are bigger than women any way lets just leave it at Nicky is Sexist

Exactly, so its been proven, so NIcky was correct in what she said. You leave it at what you want..

[Matt]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Matt
Looking back on previous nomination results, I was unsurprised to find that out of every nomination she has made, she has only once nominated a female housemate.

Just a coincedence? You decide...

Or it could be, she bonded with the girls more :conf2:

Exactly, because she's sexist...

It also stands as no surprise that with a total of 20 nominations she is officially the most nominated housemate of the series.

So because she bonded with girls shes sexist? It couldnt have anything to do with the fact that the girls were there three days before any men arrived, so they had more time to bond.

She also wasn't allowed to nominate the first two week.

...and it's not just because she's bonded with girls (MORE). She has been clearly sexist since she entered that house.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Verloren
Should we end this argument by simply voting out the person we like the least instead!? After all that is what bb is about! All the side issues don't matter, It's gerry vs nicky, nothing to do with whether ziggy is homophobic.

So if nicky really is seen as such a nice person, perhaps she will stay but it seems to me that lots of people out there clearly don't like her and the way she has come across since being in bb.
LOL! Should we end this discussion simply by letting you have the last word, whether we disagree or not? :joker:

Hmm... Somehow, I think we already know you will have to get the last word.

But maybe we dont agree with your point. As no-one is saying she is more liked than whoever.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Antparker
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Okay so Ill repeat, by that youtube clip, it said men would just eat more and complain about beer. But then, its just the same as men saying girls would just do makeup and do hair, and thats not offensive Make-up is what girls do, its almost natural, but she used comments like eat more scratch their balls then eat more

No its not, not ALL girls wear barbies. Eat more and scratch there balls is what men tend to do aswell saying girls put make-up on is not a bad comment, saying man eat more is negative, which is what Nicky is

but men DO eat more, its been proven. thats because men are bigger than women any way lets just leave it at Nicky is Sexist

Exactly, so its been proven, so NIcky was correct in what she said. You leave it at what you want.. She is tarring all men with the same brush

[Matt10k]

I find nicky very negative and sexist and I hope she leaves on friday

[Billy]

Originally posted by Matt10k
I find nicky very negative and sexist and I hope she leaves on friday

Cool

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Matt
because she's sexist...
Noun sexist - a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women.

Adj. sexist - discriminatory on the basis of sex (usually said of men's attitude toward women).

Sexism
1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviours that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.


Please tell me how ^ that relates to Nicky?

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Matt
because she's sexist...
Noun sexist - a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women.

Adj. sexist - discriminatory on the basis of sex (usually said of men's attitude toward women).

Sexism
1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviours that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.


Please tell me how ^ that relates to Nicky?

Huh?

Sexism is not just women its men as well.

We have equal rights and there should be no double standards so theres no "especially women" about it. :joker:

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Abraxas
Hmm... Somehow, I think we already know you will have to get the last word.
Yeah, because all of the enormous chain quotes are mine, aren't they? And the majority of the posts in this thread, too.

[Matt]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Matt
because she's sexist...
Noun sexist - a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women.

Adj. sexist - discriminatory on the basis of sex (usually said of men's attitude toward women).

Sexism
1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviours that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.


Please tell me how ^ that relates to Nicky?

It's discrimination against men that that definition is made out to look like sexism only means men discriminating against women.

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

if nicky is being hated for being sexist (which she isnt, she just wants to look that way *look in the real nicky thread for my fab theory*)

then liam and co should be despised for being homophobic:

they said they were getting ALL the men in the diary room, but then liam walked past gerry to get jonothan (they dont 'forget' to invite gerry), the men (or maybe just liam), purposely excluded gerry that night, they said it was 'all the men', and i think that liam didnt get gerry because he sees him as gay, and not a man, and no matter how you try, you cannot argue against the fact that liam did not want gerry in the diary room that night

[Matt]

Well this has turned into quite a popular thread.

I, for one, have had enough of debating this, so I'm abandoning this thread.

Keep up the debate if you don't feel like joining me!

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by Matt
Well this has turned into quite a popular thread.

I, for one, have had enough of debating this, so I'm abandoning this thread.

Keep up the debate if you don't feel like joining me!


bye

[Scarlett.]

Nicky is clearly seen as sexist if you look at the votes in the Sexism thread

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by Antparker
Nicky is clearly seen as sexist if you look at the votes in the Sexism thread

if you look at the 'real nicky' thread, you will see my fab theory, which clearly shows that she isnt sexist!

[Scarlett.]

but she is sexist by saying those words
same as Emily being racist for using the N word

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by Antparker
but she is sexist by saying those words
same as Emily being racist for using the N word

she says the word, she doesnt mean them

[Shaun]

So this post is pathetic enough to label Liam, Ziggy, Gerry and the twins with names - yet you're trying to encourage the support of Nicky? How hypocritical - "Gerry's fat and boring! But like Nicky!"

No - everyone's entitled to their opinion, and thankfully the majority of people share the opinion that Nicky's a nasty, bitchy and hateful woman.

[natjake2504]

when all said and done i really like nicky and dont want her to go

[SiMoN!]

like it or not she is a moody bitch how dont even make a effort to talk to the others and hav any fun

[:)tom:)]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar


Wasn't it Nicky that warned Chanelle about Ziggy? Yes. She could see him from a mile off. But nobody listened. Nicky was the first to see the good in Charley and then everyone (post fake eviction) jumped on the bandwagon. She refused to run away when Emily made her racist comment and stood her ground when she was called to the diary room even when Charley escaped.



woop woop:elephant::elephant::elephant:

[Billy]

She doesnt have any fun?? Ahhhh this is cos she doesnt run about screamin at all things pink, and doesnt walk about half naked jumpin n having waterfights shes not fun. Soo basically, if your mature you dont have fun?

[bighead]

not everyone is happy all of the time. true but most people are happy some of the time. Nicky is a boring bitchy person. Liam pointed out that when in an argument, she says excuse me, don't shout at me but yet she is shouting back. i hate Nicky not only because she is miserable and annoying but a manipulative bitch. she annoys me and i cannot wait for her to walk into the inevitable booes and jeers that will hurt her and hit her hard. the booes and her eviction are inevitable and imminent. she has no chance of staying, ever!! to quote one of the comments above people everyone does have bad days, but not a bad 7-8 weeks. she is in a good situation. cheer up love and stop following charley like a lap dog !!!!

[bighead]

there is no good in charley, it is all pure evil and manipulation

[Red4ever]

BYE BYE NICKY YOU MOANY BACKSTABBING BITCH!