Birmingham : 14 year old boy stabbed a 12 year old boy to death

[arista]

The Arrested 14-year-old was also charged
with attacking an 80-year-old on Sunday

This was on Tuesday after 3PM


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg8q80npwxo

[A 14-year-old boy has been arrested
on suspicion of murder after a 12-year-old boy
was stabbed to death in Birmingham.

West Midlands Police said the victim
was stabbed in the stomach and found near
Scribers Lane in Hall Green
at about 15:40 GMT on Tuesday
and died in hospital at 19:30.]

[arista]

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[Leo Ross, 12, died after being stabbed in the stomach
in the Hall Green area of Birmingham on Tuesday]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-14311893/Boy-14-arrested-suspicion-murder-12-year-old-stabbed-death.html

[Cherie]

Horrific, this sounds like an afterschool robbery, poor little guy

[Zizu]

Start giving these senseless murderers extremely long sentences as a deterrent

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

He'll probably be protected and get a light sentence.

It's because he is underage tbf.

But a tragic story to read about nonetheless.

[GoldHeart]

It's because he is underage tbf.

But a tragic story to read about nonetheless.

The victim was also a child ,and will be 12 years old forever now.

[Mystic Mock]

The victim was also a child ,and will be 12 years old forever now.

I get what you're saying tbf.

But in a country that struggles to give out appropriate sentences to adults that are murderers, it's even less likely to expect a child to be given a tough sentence.

[Ammi]

…just 10 minutes from home….for any parent to lose a child is unimaginable but to have their life taken in such a violent way adds another layer….

‘Sarah Coombes, Labour MP for West Bromwich, told the BBC police needed more money, knives needed to be taken off the streets, and there needed to be early intervention.’…

…just words that are hollow and empty when the government over time has cut back so much funding for that early intervention and still there appears to be no priority …the funding now for justice and sentencing etc will be much greater than that of any interventions that could have been looked at and implemented…

[Livia]

Poor kid. Poor family.

[arista]

The Evil Killer
is underage.

So no data is on him

[Cherie]

He is being questioned about 2 further attacks, the 80 year old and someone else

[Parmy]

I give up.

[arista]

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[Parmy]

We still going down the line that video gaming doesn't effect young minds?

[Glenn.]

I played all sorts of game when I was younger. I haven’t stabbed anyone yet.

Most kids never become violent, even in difficult circumstances. Violence usually appears where risk factors pile up and protective factors are missing. Things like stable adults, safe community spaces, positive role models, and future prospects.

Blaming video games and not the actual problems is lazy and ignorant.

[Benjamin]

We still going down the line that video gaming doesn't effect young minds?

Same can be said for tv, film, social media.

Does this have any correlation to a video game?

[Parmy]

We seem to be.....

Violence usually appears where risk factors pile up and protective factors are missing. Things like stable adults, safe community spaces, positive role models, and future prospects.......




Not violent video games....no, it can't he that. That can't have anything to do with a young mind turning violent, it must be having no daddy, and no youth club that caused it.


Why so reluctent to say they do effect young minds?

[Livia]

I do feel that young people have become desensitised. They seem both more mature than people of my age were in some things, but in others, far less mature. When I was a kid my parents would never have let me watch something that wasn't age-appropriate. Stranger Things, for instance, was definitely aimed at young people but I would never have been allowed to watch it. There doesn't seem to be any restrictions on what young people watch or view online and while I'd hesitate to say games are responsible, or films, I do think a lack of parental responsibility coupled with the plethora of sources where youngsters can view extreme violence, horror, porn etc. is somewhat to blame.

[Glenn.]

We seem to be.....

Violence usually appears where risk factors pile up and protective factors are missing. Things like stable adults, safe community spaces, positive role models, and future prospects.......




Not violent video games....no, it can't he that. That can't have anything to do with a young mind turning violent, it must be having no daddy, and no youth club that caused it.


Why so reluctent to say they do effect young minds?


Because other factors are involved. Like I said. Blaming video games is lazy.

[Parmy]

Because other factors are involved. Like I said. Blaming video games is lazy.

I'm not solely blam8ng video games, but to dismiss their effect so vigorously, I would say is more lazy and ignorant than simply mentioning they effect young minds negatively.

[Parmy]

And to state the bloody obvious for the ignorant...if a game isn't effecting the mind then it's not doing it's job.

[Mystic Mock]

We still going down the line that video gaming doesn't effect young minds?

Because it doesn't.

Bad parenting, teachers, and friend circles might though.

[Barry.]

And to state the bloody obvious for the ignorant...if a game isn't effecting the mind then it's not doing it's job.

What do you mean. Video games are a realm to get away fromlife. Games like GRA have an 18 for a reason. If the parents are buying their kids that game that’s on them not the game

[Parmy]

Because it doesn't.

Bad parenting, teachers, and friend circles might though.


Has no kid anywhere broken a controller in anger? And the internet isn't awash with kids screaming into a Mic what they are going to do to someone's mama!!

[Livia]

Good old fashioned borstal. That's what we need. Instead they'll get fluffy talking therapy, TV in their room, chocolate and other treats.

[Mystic Mock]

Has no kid anywhere broken a controller in anger? And the internet isn't awash with kids screaming into a Mic what they are going to do to someone's mama!!

Breaking a controller isn't comparable to stabbing someone to death.

You're a broken Human Being if you're doing the latter.

[arista]

BBC News Text :
[A judge has ruled that the 15-year-old who
murdered 12-year-old Leo Ross
in "horror stabbing" can be
named as Kian Moulton,
the Daily Mirror writes with the headline
"unmasked".]



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[Cherie]

I don't know how that poor boys parents are coping

[Livia]

I don't know how that poor boys parents are coping

It's unthinkable. My heart breaks for them.

I wonder about the killer's parents. What have they brought to this party. I think I'd like to know more about that.

[rusticgal]

Good old fashioned borstal. That's what we need. Instead they'll get fluffy talking therapy, TV in their room, chocolate and other treats.


There is no discipline anymore...children are becoming more and more destructive in their behaviour. We need to start making examples of these young people and make life extremely difficult for them otherwise these young people will continue to commit these unforgivable crimes. Its happening far too much and setting a 'trend'.

[Livia]

There is no discipline anymore...children are becoming more and more destructive in their behaviour. We need to start making examples of these young people and make life extremely difficult for them otherwise these young people will continue to commit these unforgivable crimes. Its happening far too much and setting a 'trend'.

That's all so true. It seems like every time some unruly kid does something outrageous there's an explanation by way of some syndrome or attention deficit excuse. Things have definitely changed from when I was a kid. My kids' school has a zero tolerance policy against disruptive or abusive behaviour but still kids push the boundaries and their parents are outraged if their kids are accused of being anything but perfect. I always say my children aren't angels but I never have to be embarrassed by their behaviour or worry that they're bullying or being disruptive because they know their father and I would make sure the worst punishment would happen at home. We don't hit them... but there would be dire consequences and they know it. It feels like some people have kids them absolve themselves of all responsibility.

[Parmy]

Breaking a controller isn't comparable to stabbing someone to death.

You're a broken Human Being if you're doing the latter.

Would it tie in with computer games effecting young minds?


I think so. So I'm correct, yet again.